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Comentado por 96384

Proc chance listed as 10%.

Comentado por Owari

Timbal is a moderator on the US WoW forums.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Timbal

Comentado por organic

If this trinket consumes ISB charges, it seems like it would be a net raid dps loss similar to shadow wands. Anyone have any hard math on the subject?

Comentado por 65490

The proc effect looks exactly like a Shadowbolt cast by the user. Often, I'll be casting Drain Life or Shadowbolt and a "Shadowbolt" from this trinket will shoot out.

Even as a Destruction Warlock, I saw numerous procs even on short fights.

Comentado por 66839

The spell it procs (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=45055) seems to deal physical damage, so it appears an ISB charge won't be used.

Comentado por 131277

Can anyone confirm whether or not this proc's off of Fireball's tick?

Comentado por 47718

Would it proc for ignite? I'm trying to decide if this is an upgrade over either sextant or icon for a fire mage. Seems like it has potential if CoS and Shadow weaving and misery are up.

Comentado por 73751

Quote:
1) Proc delay:
1/ (tick/sec * proc rate) + internal CD = 1/ (1.33*0.1) + 15 = 22.5sec per proc (let's assume 4 ticks per 3 seconds (3 from Mindflay / 2 from dots, but you lose some depending on how heavy your MB / SW:D Rotation is)

2.) Average Damage = 380 * 1.15 (shadowform)* 1.1 * 1.05 * 1.13 * (1+0.13*0.5) * (1+0.2*0.5) = 668,16 * 1% resist rate = 661,48

3.) DPS = 661,48/22.5 = 29,40

4.) Equivalent Damage for Shadowpriests 1 dmg = 0.5 dps, 29,40/0.5 + 44 = 102,8 damage, which makes it the best shadowpriest trinket at the moment.

There's a small problem with the math there. That 4) should be 1 dmg = .5 dps, so 29.40*.5 + 44 = 58.7 damage, which makes it not even worth the time it would take to get it. Of course, that's assuming nothing else you did there was wrong.

Comentado por NightmareMJ

Wow, this is possible the best trinket for a raiding or pvp doter Balance Druid.
I can see myself using this a great deal especially If I ever get 2 piece of tier 6 balance set.
Combined with the extremely low mana cost of insect swarm, a balance druid could get a great deal of damage boost out of this.

But question for those testing it, since it seems to have a cooldown, does the cooldown only apply against a certain spell's dot tick or against all dot spells globaly(i.e. if you have a row or two of dots, is it going to only proc once every 15 secs for the entire row? or just once every 15 secs for each dot spell in the row?)

Comentado por 127693

Anyone able to do the calcs for a fire mage? I'm not that much into craft-numbers... :-(

Thx a lot. By first look seems interesting at least.

Comentado por 46845

i am curious how this would perform for a elemental shaman, i have been farming kara for ages now and still no TLC so this might be the trinket for me. i currently run sextant and quagmirran's eye and been trying for sextant/TLC but this might be able to take its place, maybe a bit less damage but i do have 45%crit raid buffed with a boomkin.. might even out, due to the 44 spell damage on the trinket.

think it's worth going after? cause illhoof isn't a fan on mine.

Comentado por AuReacT

I would die if this dropped and a mage took it instead of The Lightning Capacitor..

"But I needs it for fierballspamm :D"

/sigh

Comentado por AuReacT

I hope this proc won't interrupt Mind Flay like ToW and Shadowguard..

Anyone tested it ?

Comentado por vexis58

Remember, even if you have NO periodic damage, this trinket STILL has 44 static spell damage on it. That makes it better than some of the crit-based trinkets for elemental shamans, like X'iri's Gift and the Vengeance of the Illidari.

However, that still doesn't make it better than many pure-damage trinkets like the Sextant of Unstable Currents or the Icon of the Silver Crescent.

It's not completely useless for an elemental shammy, but only if no other casters in the group want it. I'd cry if a shammy took this over a lock, shadow priest or even a fire mage.

Comentado por 98492

One part not mentioned in the theory crafting above is that shadow priests and affliction locks are often maintaining a set of DoTs on multiple targets. This benefits the lock much more then the shadow priest, as maintain multiple sets of DoTs will significantly reduce a shadowpriests Mind Flay Time as less time will be available for one of their lowest priority spells. The other thing to consider in this case is that caster has little control over which target will be effected by the proc.

One other minor concern for a shadow priest is the trinkets interaction with his shadow fiend verse the other available trinkets. A shadowfiend's damage scales with his players +dmg, so on-use +dmg trinkets and other trinkets with higher static +dmg interact more favorably with the shadow fiend. However, the increased shadow dmg will return more mana from VT. Using Isayi's numbers from above, 661.48 dmg ever 22.5 seconds nets (661.48 dmg / 22.5 seconds * .05 mana / dmg) 1.47 mana / second. Shadowfiend, being a 5 minute (300 second) CD, would break even on mana return if the difference caused the shadowfiend to return an extra 441 mana (1.47 * 300).

One question I have (which will not stop me from using this trinket because it still would be one of the best) is how the trinket would handle a situation in a fight like Kalecgos where DoTs are ticking while the player is in another area (after stepping through the portal). A small loss in DPS would be incurred if trinket cannot proc on a mob you cannot target (the time it takes you to get your new DoTs running), but if the trinket attempts to proc, fails because you cannot target the mob, and yet the internal cooldown begins, a more significant loss in damage can occur.

Comentado por 140759

Lucky shadow priest here that just got it on first Heroic run. This thing appears to be pretty damn amazing so far. I am almost positive it is affected by shadow talents/shadow form/spell damage because I was seeing 1k+ crits during a raid. It procs both VE and VT so it makes it even more useful for us spriests. The passive +44 damage is just a bonus to the awesome proc. Indeed, there is an internal cooldown on this badboy, but it is very reasonable, as this thing procs quite often.

Comentado por Karyssia

The Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 44 is nice for a lot of casters, but I feel this trinket is perfect for a shadowpriest/warlock.
I believe shadowpriest and warlocks should have rolls on it first. I would be truly be upset as a warlock losing this roll to a mage, as the guy stated a few posts down.

I'm just saying don't be greedy and think of who would benefit from this most.

Comentado por 140801

Hi guys, I've always been impressed by the quality of comments here, but I would like to point out some mathematical errors made in the first couple posts. Allow me to rehash a bit.

Affliction DPS calculation:
Assuming 4 dot ticks per 3 seconds, the probability that you'll get at least one proc during a 3 second window is equal to the 1 - the probability that you'll get no procs during that window. The probability that you'll get no procs is 0.9^4 = 0.6561. So the probability that you'll get a proc during that window is 34.39%, not 40%. Small error, but I just wanted to point that out.

The probability that a proc will occur in a time t (with unit seconds) is given by the exponential distribution, with parameter lamda = ~0.11. As was correctly shown above, the average time until a proc is expected is 1/lambda or 8.72 seconds. Add in the estimated 15 second cool-down and we expect 1 proc per 23.7 seconds, roughly.

The calculation of the raid-buffed dps average dps output of the proc was done correctly and yields 594 damage on average (if you consider miss chance of 1%). Also, if you consider talents working on this (shadow form or Succubus Sac or Shadow Mastery) it goes up to 683, 683, and 653 respectively. I'm not sure if these buffs apply, though. Added in for completeness. The subsequent analysis does not include these effects.

In general (following the scheme above), here's what you get (regardless of spec or class), depending on how many DoT ticks you think you can muster per 3 seconds:

1 tick per 3: +13.33 dps
2 ticks per 3: +19.49 dps
3 ticks per 3: +23.01 dps
4 ticks per 3: +25.29 dps
5 ticks per 3: +26.87 dps

As you can see, the number of DoTs you pile on gives diminishing returns from this trinket. So don't expect huge DPS returns when dotting up multiple mobs. That's not to say that the trinket isn't awesome, however. +23 dps from ~3 dot ticks per 3, as an affliction lock could expect under most any circumstance, is a 2.3% increase in damage (assuming you deal ~1000 dps) from the proc alone.

Although it's dependent on gear, a BT/MH raiding warlock with 1400 shadow damage, 1100 fire damage, hit capped with 20% crit can expect +1 spell damage to return about 0.58 dps per point of damage. So this trinket should give an end-game warlock about 25.52 + 23 = 48.52 dps. The Icon of the Silver Crescent gives 39.92 dps, the Hex Shrunken Head gives 51.14 dps. Basically, until you get to Illidan, this is the second best trinket in the game AND it doesn't share a cooldown with the Hex-head or Silver Crescent, so their dps bonus happily stacks.

Tleilaxu
Affliction Warlock of Khadgar

Comentado por 23104

Balance druids keeping their DoTs up all the time will see 19.9 dps from timbal procs, in addition to the 44 passive spell damage effect (starfire spam with a 15% crit rate in caster form would result in an increase of 25.2 dps by itself for a total of ~39 dps from this trinket) (with a 24% buffed crit rate, 1 spell damage is worth 0.57 dps).

Math behind 19.9 dps:

10% proc rate
Insect swarm ticks every 2 seconds. 10%/2 is a 5% chance to proc per second from IS.
Moon fire ticks every 3 seconds. 10%/3 is a 3.3% chance to proc per second from MF.

That's 8.3% chance to proc per second.
That means that it should proc once within 12 seconds.
There is a 15 second cooldown, so the range of proc times will be 15-27 seconds.
Average proc time will be 15+12/2 = every 21 seconds.

Average damage from the proc is 380.
With a 20% crit rate, that comes to 418 average damage.
418 damage dealt once every 21 seconds is 19.9 dps.

Comentado por 123668

I got the first on my server. No other casters in my group so i took it for my fire set(mage).
Yes this procs off of ignite and fireball/pyro ticks.

Comentado por psbass

I heard that on the PTR this did not proc off of a Fireball DoT, or Ignite. Can anyone confirm this either way?

Comentado por 20383

Would it be worth it for an affliction warlocks to have TWO of these trinkets? Or do they not work together???

Comentado por 111007

Prot Paladins - -

I picked up this trinket to test it for both farming, aoe threat, and single target threat. My conclusion is that it is really subpar for all three.

My testing grounds was the BT shelf, doing pulls of 10-12, over 20, and single target (Netharel). Over 1400 Consecrate/Spore Cloud ticks, the trinket only procced 8 times, giving it less than a 1% proc rate and only accounting for 1.3% of the damage. The ratio of ticks/procs increased as fewer mobs were pulled, obviously because of the internal cooldown. Meaning its a mediocre aoe farming/threat trinket, and you'd be better off getting a pure spell damage trinket or the al'ar one for threat.

Against a single target, the proc was roughly 8% of consecrate ticks, and triggering about every cooldown. This added about 6% to total damage from the proc alone, but considering the damage is shadow based not modified by RF and only averaged 360 damage, you would only see an overall TPS increase of about 50 from this trinket alone, and most of that is coming from the +damage adding to your various threat moves. This does not factor high resist rate against 73 boss mobs, in which case you'd probably be seeing a roughly 10-12% resist rate in raid gear.

Short story: seldom, randomly targetted procs and subpar +dmg make it an unreliable trinket for Prot Paladins.

Comentado por 141546

Does anyone know the range/los/direction constraint of this proc?

What would happen if a warlock went around spam dotting people in a battleground, and it happened to proc on a target who was out of range, behind a wall or on a target in which the warlock was not facing towards?

Would the proc damage still be applied to the target, just without the visual effect or will an error message come up, just as if u were trying to cast a spell "Out of range" or "Out of line of sight", etc.

It really interests me, as i've found that in battlegrounds, i can still get nightfall procs, and be healed from siphon life even if i am on the other side of the map from the target to which the dots were applied.

Thanks in advance,

Unlockedd
Jubei'thos

Comentado por 141619

This trinket would be great for a Boomkin or a Smite Priest for that matter. Both classes/specs maintain 2 DoTs on the target at all times and are heavily crit based.

Combining with is a great trick for these specs because the Shadow Bolt from can critically strike and proc any crit based mechanics such as: surge of light and Lightning Charges for the Capacitor.

Timbal's means the Capacitor charges easier and fires more often (although it has received an internal cooldown on it's charges).

I tend to gear based on a 10 minute boss fight and scale the advantages of gear changes also based on that. Over the coarse of a 10 minute boss fight the additional damage from Timbal's Shadow Bolts will out do the USE of trinkets such as the Icon.

Whether or not to use the Capacitor in combo with Timbals is your call and I'm personally still testing it. Thus far I'm actually finding Quagmirran's Eye or Darkmoon Card: Crusade to be the better combination. Timbals however has proven worth it with 2 DoTs on a burst based spec. It's just up in the air which trinket will best compliment it.

Comentado por Taemojitsu

Can anyone CONFIRM that this does not proc from casting Blizzard? I know that under the old combat log pre-2.4, damage from Blizzard was reported with the same kind of combat message (periodic effect) as other DoTs, as was Consecration.

So has anyone actually tested it?

Comentado por 84910

My name is Beefmonger, and I play a Troll Warlock.

I was originally a mage, but upon T5 raiding, specifically Serpentshrine Cavern, things have changed for me.

First, I got the Robe of Hateful Echos, which, honestly, didn't match, but hey. I'll roll with it.

Then along came the Cord of Screaming Terrors, warlock loot if there ever was one. It matched my robe, so naturally I overpowered the little elf 'lock who thought it should have been hers.

And then there was the Illidari Shoulderpads, and that clinched. I was a troll. And I looked like a warlock.

Now, with this handy little focusing crystal, I no longer merely LOOK like a warlock. I truly AM a warlock.
Pew pew!

Comentado por 141172

any mage tried this with flamestrike (for example in MH)

Comentado por 142243

I got this the other night on my paladin, only a mage was in the group and he didn't want it so I took it for my shock set to replace Quag's eye.

I can confirm that this DOES proc from concecrate.

Screenshot here - http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/Shibby6464/Shadowbolt.jpg

Comentado por Yeoman

Mage with fire spec can proc it from tallent Ignite (2 ticks every 2 sec), when any fire damage spell crit, or just from regular Fireball, that have DoT for 8 seconds (4 ticks every 2 sec). Just tested.

Comentado por 82837

I'm a little confused on this trinket - picked it up yesterday.

For a raiding lock, how does it rate vs hex head, icon, and haste items like quag's eye?

It says 'periodic' damage, so I'm guessing shadowbolts don't proc it, but things like corruption, immolate, siphon life do?

If so, I don't know how great this would be for a destrolock in Tempest Keep and SSC. Maybe it would best suit a deep affliction lock or even a demonology lock?

Comentado por Otiman

I recieved this on my Resto Shaman, due to being the only caster in the group. Tested it thoroughly on flame shock, and it seems to proc quite well. Obviously nothing on a warlock or shadow priest, but the passive 44 spell damage, along with the proc is great.

Flame shock is 1 tick every 3 seconds, so having it proc once every 20-30 seconds whilst the internal CD is up is about where it's at. I'm sure someone else can number crunch better than that.

Comentado por JayRay

There are much better trinkets for fire mages, taking this over an actual DoT class is very pointless.
It is not effective for shamans either, even if they spam flame shock.

Comentado por 92763

I'm not the player this was happening to, so I couldn't say for certain that this was what was happening, but on a recent Kara run, one of our locks kept pulling aggro and getting killed from untauntable mobs. Normally he does not have this problem. Just recently he'd run hero MGT and received this trink and I'm wondering if this is the reason. Our tank has never had issues holding aggro and the lock has never had issues with nuking so hard that he accidentally pulls things off the tank. 2.4 having just come out though, we're still having some issues with Omen, but the timing seemed coincidental to me.

Comentado por euphyi

For druids: Procs on Roots.

It animates as if you are casting a spell, but you don't have to be facing the mob for it to proc.

Comentado por Thae

In light of all of the posts about the mathematical specs of this trinket's DPS, I'd like to add a few things about it that are a bit less DPS related.
If you dot someone in a BG, die, and rez in the GY... it can still proc and fly across the map to hit them.
If you are fighting a shaman and it procs at the right time, it WILL eat up their grounding totem.
If you are arenaing and someone runs behind a pillar, it can still fly through the pillars regardless of LOS, maybe even resetting the "combat" timer when it hits them that dots would otherwise lose.

If you can't tell, this is one of my favorite trinkets :) So far my highest crits in-raid (ie, including buffs/debuffs, etc) have been around 1150, sometimes hitting a bit above or below. (not BT geared - shadowpriest)

Comentado por lillbrorsan

Pretty damn cool trinket actually, for me as Balance druid i've noticed that it procs really often.
It's pretty wicked to see a shadowbolt fly from you while casting Starfire :D
(Added a screenshots for this trinket)

I really like this trinket, have to be something special until i replace it.

Comentado por 74227

Since I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere yet, the shadowbolt proc effect from this trinket does cause spell pushback like a normal shadowbolt would vs an enemy... kind of nice added bonus that can be quite valuable in PvP instead of a few extra spell damage.

Comentado por 145499

The proc on this trinket would be pretty useful for fire mages, especially if they are built with a focus on high crit rate. The spell damage bonus is nice, too.

Comentado por oppel

How do you know when it procs? Can you see it?

Comentado por Aarpia

Got this on my mage today, and it appears that for some bizarre reason, this thing consumes clear-casting charges.

Edit: This is a total lie. It does not consume clear-casts.

Comentado por 101752

have any mages tried this with blizzard? seeing as blizzard is periodic damage similar to mind flay or something (beside being aoe) I was wondering if it procced. would be fun to play around with for aoe as a frost mage if so ^^ (don't worry I'd pass to any class that would actually use it before taking it)

Comentado por TranquilRage

Does this thing proc on a Hunters Scorpid Sting?

Comentado por smdante

And about the interesting synergy between this trinket and Shattered Sun Pendant of Acumen for an exalted Scryer...

Not only will the neck piece proc off the shadowbolt from this trinket, but both receive a bonus from Curse of Shadow, which is up most of the time in raids.

Shadow and arcane bolts flying everywhere! :)

Comentado por 139658

the proc can proc from stuff like the halaa bombing quest and the demon bombing quest on the new island.

Comentado por 66395

How does this compare for a scorch mage with around 25% spell crit vs The Lightning Capacitor?

Comentado por 108160

So for Frost mages these trinket is useless ?
I mean it wont proc on a frost bolt cast ?

Yes , I've just found out just on Dots and Channeled spells ...sigh

A sad thing

Comentado por Camora

Have any Fire Mages tried this In Hyjal with Flamestrike AoE?

Comentado por Myhr

This procs from Starshards, one of the Night Elf Priest racial spells!

For those that dont know, Starshards is an instant cast debuff dot that does arcane dmg; 5 ticks over 15 seconds, no manacost and a 30 second cooldown. Its nice.

It was mentioned earlier that this trinket has a 10 second internal cooldown. This is not the case.
I tested it yesterday and on several occasions saw multiple bolts flying from me to the dotted targets. This test was done with a holy spec, using only Holy Fire, Shadow Word: Pain, and Starshards for procs.

This trinket is simply amazing!

Myhr
Arathor

Comentado por 79289

as an affliction warlock, this procs A LOT to say the least. especially in pvp when you're just tab-DoTing.. it procs several times per minute for me.

Comentado por 105341

Blizzard's damage should be considered as AM or Flamestrike ground damage, so as long as it won't proc on them it should not proc with Blizzard (and i guess that if it does it procs only on 1 target alone, not every target at once, so it's not much of use also in this case).

Comentado por 145499

Were you dotting multiple targets? In that case, the hidden cooldown probably applies to a given target, not to the trinket itself. In other words, you can get the trinket to proc multiple times within the 10 seconds on different targets, but it cannot proc more than once on any given target in the 10 second cooldown.

This is just speculation; I don't know this for certain.

Comentado por Thrizie

Can anyone confirm whether or not this thing proccing stops drinking in PvP?

Wanna know if having it proc when you have the trinket stop you drinking as well as stopping the person it procs on drinking.

Comentado por 122372

Okay, I recently got this trinket on my lock (about a week ago), and to confirm some previous posts, it procs of dots, yet does NOT interrupt your currently casting move! Its pretty cool, I am destro, but have no plus shadow/fire, so I switch cuz of mages once in a while. While I was casting incinerate (immolate was on Mag), I saw a little shadow bolt come out, then my incinerate hit, so when they both crit it was like 4.4k and 600 damage at once!

So while its not an uber amount of dps, it still is a great boost spell damage wise, and if you are affliction, its almost like adding another weak dot, since having 3+ dots on a mob will make this thing proc like guaranteed! Great trinket, locks might as well grab it while getting rep and doing quests.

Also, this can help most casters as well, since at the very least is a bonus 44 damage, and I'm sure it can proc off flame shock, imp. fireball, moonfire, and other assorted dots.

Comentado por 54396

The shadow bolt from this trinket might consume one improved shadow bolt debuff. If it does. I would say this is horrible trinket for 25 man instance.

Destruction lock in raid already had hard time to keep ISB debuff. Spriest's spell consume most of them. Now if more people use this trinket in raid. Raid dps might slightly go down. Imagine those trinket proc consume ISB debuff. Which lock and Spriest's main spell didn't effect much from ISB. That's big lose.

Guild that progress in BT/HJ or SW. Warlock non crit SB is around 3.5k~4k. Spriest's mind blast or shadow word death is around 2~2.5k. Compare to trinket effect 500~1.2k damage. Yes if you use that trinket you will effect by ISB. And your own DPS will increase a bit. But let's calculate whole run. see how many ISB got consume by trinket, and replace by lock's SB, spriest's mind blast or shadow word death. Raid should do more damage when people use pure spell damage increase trinket.

Comentado por 151175

An interesting thing for warriors and paladins:
Its effect can be occurred by dots of Petrified Lichen Guard (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=25828)

I have used a warrior to test it in Karabor. I pulled about 20 mobs to farm them. The shadow bolt had fired to mobs and increased my dps about 3%.

But it is strange that the proc very low. In record of recount, the dot has ticked 6xx times, the shadow bolt only occured 10 times.

Comentado por 50513

This does work with a warrior's rend, and I would assume deep wounds, by the way. Pointless except for maybe getting a laugh, but yeah. (And no, I didn't take it from anyone; no one wanted it and there was no enchanter in the group.)

Comentado por Zmoke

MAGES
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It works with Flamestrike. 100% sure.

Comentado por 116484

works on rogue poisons.. not that i'm interested in using it lol but I was curious and tested it

Comentado por 65062

As a threat trinket for a Prot Pally:

44 dmg = about 26.4 TPS in full threat rotation with Seal of Righteousness.
Proc: 380 dmg per minimum of 15 seconds versus single targets; assume it procs on a single target between 15-30 seconds. Against N targets, it could be estimated to proc more often; every (15->15+15/n) seconds
30 second proc time=13.3 TPS
15 second proc time=26.6 TPS

Thus this trinket provides an approximate maximum of 53 TPS, with a more average output of 40 TPS.

Compared to other Threat Trinkets:
Tome of Fiery Redemption= 79dmg = 47 TPS (A'lar)
Ashtongue Talisman of Zeal ~ 53 TPS (BT)
Hex Shrunken Head= Max 53 TPS (ZA)
Icon of the Silver Crescent= Max 41.2 TPS (badges)

I wouldn't go out of my way to pick this up, though as many paladin tanks will be running H MgT multiple times for the mace, trinket and chest, don't turn this down (or any of the other trinkets that drop off Priestess), especially if you haven't bought the Icon yet.

Comentado por 123224

This will proc off the firebombs you drop on the npcs in Halaa. It's kinda funny to watch shadowbolts fly from you and travel the 300 yards to your target while you're flying on the mount.

Comentado por 158546

This might be hard to believe, but I was messing around on Netherspite, and cast a Curse of Doom with about 30 ticks of the blue beam. This nifty trinket went off at exactly the right moment, and apparently caused over 20k damage, making a total of over 50k damage to Netherspite in less than a second. I am extremely glad the red beam was up when it went off.

Comentado por Kidvid01

Won this on my warrior on a greed roll (all the casters had it already, including our enchanter) and I can confirm that it does in fact work with Rend. Kinda silly, but it seems to proc off EVERY type of periodic effect, regardless of whether or not it deals magical damage. It more than likely works on Deep Wounds as well, although I am currently prot and unable to confirm that.

Comentado por alixa

Moonkin math time. Asssuming 5 procs per 6 seconds due to IS ticking every 2 instead of 3.

1) Proc delay = 1/ (.83*0.1) + 15 = 27.04 sec per proc

2.) Average Damage = 380 * 1.1 * 1.05 * 1.13 * (1+0.3*0.5)* (1+0.2*0.5) = 627.39 * .99 = 621.12

3.) DPS = 621.12 / 27.04 = 22.97 DPS

4.) Moonkin damage equivalent 1 dmg = .57 DPS
22.97/0.57 + 44 = 84.29 damage.

Comentado por Nummytaterz

Another interesting note on timbal

It is theorized that in real life, he has a mustache. This has not been confirmed, as no known pictures of him exist.
Retrieved from "http://www.wowwiki.com/Timbal"

Comentado por 111374

and boomkins, we always have either IS or moonfire up

this was a reply to something on the first page. lol oh well

Comentado por Slummish

If this trinket procs and crits, it will give you a charge on the Lightning Capacitor or cause it to proc as well. Just got a free 750+1200 from the two trinkets.

Comentado por 71254

Didn't see anything with Mind Flay. Would this trinket happen to work on the procs it has?

tl;dr

Comentado por Nummytaterz

Shadai Mind Flay indeed procs this trinket.

Comentado por Suisan

Note to spreists: Honestly, it's really not that amazing.

My guildie's toon has this and it procs fairly often, but the point remains it's not as amazing as you'd think it would be. We messed around a little and found that it's actually to more benefit to just grab the Icon and Shrunken Head rather than grind Heroic Magister's praying that you get this to drop (let alone kill the third boss...) because as amazing as the proc might seem to be, it's better (as always) to just stack raw +dmg.

If you're REALLY hurting to get this: do as you will, but it's going to be a lot more profitable to just grab some badges and run ZA in the end...

Comentado por 159332

This proc does work with Vimpiric Embrace
Tested it last night. My first test was none crit. The Bolt (the proc) hitted for 400 and i got healed for 100 by vimpiric embrace.

My other test was with crit. I crited ~1100 (dont really remember) and it healed for ~275. so it helps with something.

Comentado por 149470

I've used this trinket extensively for PvE since two days after it was available in Live.

For a Shadowpriest, the Shadow Bolts average ~2.3% of your total DPS during a boss fight (based on many reports and experiences). With raid debuffs, the Shadow Bolts routinely crit for over 1000, often around 1058.

Example:

Akil'zon, the Eagle Boss:

Active presence : 3'03'' (99 % of raid)
Dmg. Out to foes : 213,498 (16 %)
DPS : 1166
...
Shadow Bolt (Shadow):
Total: 4,146 (2% of Dmg out to foes)
Hits: 6
Average: 541
Max: 857

DPS from Shadow Bolt procs during 3 minute fight: 22 DPS

That is generally indicative of what I've seen with this trinket throughout most fights.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Also might be handy for balance druids? with insect swarm and moonfire spammage.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Yes it does proc off consecrate, I use it on weaker waves in Hyjal and some BT trash.

Sobre@Twisting Nether US

Comentado por Allakhazam

This would be MORE useful for a lock, but spriests can still use it too babies!

Comentado por Allakhazam

My friend (A warlock) had this drop for him, and a Spriest took it. WTF! IF THERE IS A LOCK IN THE GROUP THIS IS CLEARLY A WARLOCKS TRINKIT, NOT A SHADOW PRIESTS!

Comentado por Allakhazam

Does anyone know if this trinket would proc with consecrate?

Comentado por Allakhazam

can my firebolt dot be count as peroidic dmg? j/k but clearly is best for a lock

Comentado por Allakhazam

2nd best spriest trinket in the game....obviously a spriest/warlock trinket.

Edited, Mar 31st 2008 5:41pm by Beedeei

Comentado por Thottbot

I just got it today and im 0/21/40 warlock but when i respecced affli i gotta say..... THIS IS THE BEST! awesome for boss fights puting up coa corruption siphon life unstable immo uber sweet

Comentado por Thottbot

Why the hell would it?

Comentado por Thottbot

I got it, 3rd boss in heroic MT. He drops one trinket of some kind every kill.

I tried it in a MH/BT raid got some good statistics:

I got 200 procs on 5000 ticks of MF,SWP,VT and starshards. So either it has a cooldown or the real rate is 4%.

I can confirm it does proc on mind flay too. The average damage was 522 and max 833. 728/1064 for crits so yes it can crit and it seems to be affected by SW, misery, shadowform and stuff.

It is shadow damage, named as shadow bolt. The damage does return health and mana from VE/VT too!

My total damage from shadowbolt was 3%. That's just imba!

This is THE shadowpriest trinket. Other classes don't benefit as much as you dont get the boost to damage from shadowform, but still I think Affliction locks will love it too.

Would be interesting to know if it procs some warlock stuff from crits.

Comentado por Thottbot

the Trinket has an internal cooldown, and the proc % only affects to a single target (if you have multiple dots up at once, it will hit only one target when it procs, and then it will proc again once the cooldown is up, so no AOE shadow bolts, get that out of your head)

Spriest benefit the most, because the shadow bolts are affected by VE, VT and shadow weaving/missery. it can also crit. i hope this clears up everyones questions.

Comentado por Thottbot

Yep my warlock just soiled himself.

Comentado por Thottbot

I'm a aflilock (41/0/20) with 4 T4 pieces (1 more dot for corruption & immolate) currently starting on SSC & TK but still farming gruul, mag & kara (bages, badges, badges)

I always put (not in this order) UA, C, SL, CoA & Immo (even DL if I need my health back) on everything that may live for about 1min then spam ISB until renew, and dudes this trinket just rocks

Some warnings:
- watch for threat meters or you will become a target dummy
- beware of your initial rotation and the tank pulling playstyle, an early proc may grab aggro from the tank.
- beware of dotting every tanked mob, if they charge the raid, stun or fear the tank; you are No1 candidate to gain additional reputation with The Floor (Since Soulshatter's CD is 5min, you won't be able to use it on every pull)

I nearly made my raid wipe at Mag aggroing my channeler (the last of the round) from feral tank with the first CoA dot! (now I use CoT there to help the healer save mana and safer tanking)

Now I'm No1 damage dealer in our raid charts from Attumen to The Lurker & LootReaver

BTW I really love the ShadowBolt Machine Gun: SB + Trinket + Trance of Shadows (+ soulshatter in case of crit and wanna live longer)

Did I say if crits? /EvilLaugh

Comentado por Thottbot

Got this on my paly tank (had no lock or spriest in the group, so I had been allowed to roll on it)

This thing proc with consecration.

Can generate nice threat when it proc. Specially on multiple mobs pull, You are guaranteed a Proc.

Comentado por Thottbot

Well, this dropped last night. Guess who got it. Me, the warlock, or the frost mage who thought that arcane missiles is a DoT?

Sigh... I really wanted that. Sometimes people really piss me off.

Comentado por Thottbot

Just been to MgT with my rogue, and this dropped... always wondered if it would trigger with deadly/garrote/rupture... no-one else in the party needed so i asked if i could take it... been trying it out... the effect works on all 3 dot's =] if only it gave AP ^.-

Comentado por Thottbot

I have this as a shadowpriest... its badass... every spriest should have it.

It procs all the time, usually for 400-500 damage. I dont know if it can crit or not.

If a rogue is running from you far off and it procs, it will chase them down even if they use CloS and vanish... it will then take them out of stealth when it eventually hits (it moves like a shadowbolt... but seems to have unlimited range)

The following spells have been proven to proc it from use:

-Vampiric Touch
-Shadow Word: Pain
-Mind Flay
-Shadow Fiend (I am not kidding, shadowfiend hits set this off)

Comentado por Thottbot

This trinket is so great as SL/SL Warlock in arena.
My arena partner just got it and he couldn't be happier!

It proccs off of all the DoTs + Drain Life, and guess what!
THE PROCC INTERRUPTS FREAKING DRINKING! :D

Comentado por Thottbot

has anyone else had a rediculously hard time getting this to drop? I'm an affliction lock and i've ran this instance everyday for 18 days now and still haven't seen it drop. WTF?

Comentado por Combustible

While this trinket does proc from Consecrate, it has an internal cooldown, preventing it from being awesome for Paladins.

To confirm, I pulled 90ish mobs in Strat at once with it equipped, cast consecrate 6 times to burn the mobs & recorded 1803 individual ticks. The trinket fired 3 times.

Next pull was a single mob, 9 rank 1 consecrates and again 3 trinket procs.

Conclusion is that its alright as a passive spell power trinket but due to the internal cooldown its better to use an Icon or Smoking Pipe for the on use effect & virtually the same passive +spell.

Comentado por emanueol

Is this useful for an arcane mage ? Seems more an affliction warlock with DoTs right ?
I wonder which of Arcane mage spells could trigger this trinket ?

Thanks ~

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