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Comentário de 17619

Where is this nice staff from ?
525 fap, 70 ap from str and 29 ap from agi..
thats over 600 total ap..
and the 300 armor is 1350 armor extra.. pretty neat..

Comentário de Deldinor

Any math-heads out there able to analyze the differences between this staff and Earthwarden as they relate to tanking? Not certain of the relationship between Agi and Feral Combat Skill / Defense.

Comentário de 17599

yeah....

but where the hell can i get one?!

Comentário de Rishadan

This drops from Heroic Botanica.

Comentário de dasper

Although I agree that this staff and the earthwarden are excellent tanking weapons they both have there strengths and weaknesses and would be desired dependent on the other Items in the druid's gear set.

For example the earthwarden has more armor and 24 defense, this staff will give stamina and agi that will increase your chance to crit and dodge (~15 agility = 1% dodge). If a druid has enough defense/resilience to reduce the chance to be crit upon to less than zero (FYI: a level 70 mob will have a 5% chance to crit on you. A druid with Survival of the Fittest will only need to get there Defense to around 420 to wipe crits off the table) then you will want to start focusing on dodge to further mitigate damage. Thanks to the rubber band effect on armor the difference in mitigation between these two items are 1.3% which is marginal enough to where I believe this should not be a decision maker on these items IF the druid is already around or above a 60% mitigation. In this scenario, it is the weight of the Defense versus the Dodge and Stamina.

There are some that believe that druids should not dodge because that robs them of rage, however if the druid focuses on agility rather than +dodge then he will be increasing his crit percentage as well as lowering his damage taken. By increasing your crit, you will be gaining more rage thanks to the Primal Fury talent. And “The way WoW calculates crit rate is over ALL attacks. Crit rate is not based on hits only. In other words, if you have a 5% crit rate, that 5% chance includes misses.” (Blizzard rep in June of 2005: http://www.wowwiki.com/Attack_table) This means that you will be compensating for the rage lost by being hit by critting more and it will increase you chance of hitting your mob overall. And healers will appreciate a dodge that will mitigate 100% of the damage over a 1.8% damage reduction.

Summary: Shot for 60-65% Damage mitigation, 420 Defense or the equivalent of removing the chance to be crit upon, and the rest should go into agility and stamina (IMO). That should help you decide between these two weapons. (Or hell, carry them both. You gear will change over time so one may be more useful than the other in the future)

Comentário de 43327

Buffed in 2.1, has an extra 4 agility (33 total)

Comentário de Vacc

I'm running botanica in my spare time to get this but not majorly. Next patch each heroic end boss will drop a guranteed epic item as well as chance at a gem so hopefully it will then be an even drop rate between this and his other two epics (33% hopefully).

Comentário de 32218

with Earthwarden u can keep aggro better :)

Comentário de 29778

After the huge upgrade on Earthwarden (+39 sta & 3 def rating), this staff is not on par with it anymore.

The changed will be made in pacth 2.1 which is on PTRs atm.

Comentário de 49705

anyone knows what the staff looks like after the lvl 70 epic item revamp? i think all epic heroic items were upgraded to itemlvl 110. this staff is currently itemlvl 95 ....

Comentário de 57125

This finally dropped for me on my first Heroic Bota since the patch... (after about a month of farming for it!)
Cleared the whole instance in about an hour - much easier now the Peacekeepers don't blitz you for 8k arcane dmg any more (their main attacks are now normal melee for around 2-3k in bear)

Lovely staff with the 35agi enchant added - will keep me tied over till the SSC trash give up the Wildfury Greatstaff..

Comentário de Luster

This staff can be very easily obtained, get a resto druid, 3 rogues, and a feral druid (feel free to bring a moonkin druid or another feral druid if you like instead of 3 rogues). You must clear the trash all the way up to the bats and 3 packs before the 1st boss, then from there, its so easily stealth able with 1-2 distracts its not even funny... took me about 30 minutes from start to finish, wound poison also helps on warp splinter, so you can forget about the adds =) have fun and good luck

Comentário de kinson

I don't know whats up with this staff, but I've ran this instance probably 50 times trying to get this staff to drop since the last patch with no success. Everybody I know has seen the staff drop a few times and DE it because no druid was in the party before patch. I don't see how this is so easily obtained.

Anyone have any information if the drop rates or anything have changed ? I've seen the boots and gloves drop every other time, changing back and forth each run. Yet I have not seen anything of the staff...

Comentário de Aernath

This also dropped at my first attempt, so well it may not be %100 but very high --considering my all time roll and drop bad luck streak :b

Also this is much more useful for Cat form, since the str+agi & +ap works for it much better. I still use Earthwarden while tanking and this one for dps.

Also it becomes awesome with a +35agi, i'd say don't mind the cost at all and go for the ench.. It's worth it.

Comentário de Avandare

Floppy tongue FTW!

Comentário de Deragorn

Buffed in patch 2.3, FAP increased from 588 to 754.

Comentário de 66161

Feral Staff of Lashing: Friend to lonely women everywhere...

Comentário de Isilien

Just finished heroic bot run #38 and still no drop. This staff has an unusually low droprate, that's for sure. Hardly anyone on my server as even seen it. If you're a druid and wanting this, pray you're lucky or be prepared for a long grind.

Comentário de OwenWalker

Gives 947 AP in Cat form with HotW as of 2.3
surprised no one has even said the amount of AP you get even pre-2.3

Best DPS Staff you can get outside of Kara besides arena rewards and from a very easy heroic instance

Comentário de 67678

This staff dropped first time for me :D
I'm a lucky bastard I guess!

Comentário de Isilien

Finally got this after 69 Heroic Botanica runs (4 months+). The drop-rate is absolutely terrible. If you PvP at all, I would suggest getting the PvP feral wep.

Comentário de 83139

its not the best outside kara cuz there is one in za that pwnz this one =)

Comentário de 104823

well according to the following link :

http://www.emmerald.net/Bear_High_Mitigation/Two_Hand.html

this staff slightly edges out the earthwarden in terms of mitigation...

really, they are both perfectly viable options.. and this one does work a bit better for cat form

Comentário de 139661

I have huge problem with droppin rate .. done 40 times by now heroic botanica and over 20 times kara illihoof .. none wont drop when i am leading with my drood raid or heroic run

made complain for gms about dropping rate only answer i get .. everything works as intended . I am not happy for situation when not dropping even used weeks for trying to get em :) missing dps staff i hope 2.4 brings some help when having over 300 badges allready

Comentário de 169351

For end game stats FSOL is a step above Earthwarden for mitigation reasons.

First off earthwardens +def is useless on a endgame druid who will be crit immune with trinkets or just 2 pvp set bonus. The expert on earthwarden is no substitue imo for the +2% extra dodge and crit hit from the 35 agi on FSOL. The loss of 200 armor as well will not mean much at all if you are at 32k armor already. The best feral tank druid weapon in the game lacks +armor for a reason since blizz knows you will not need it when you are past black temple.

Earthwarden is the best druid weapon to start heroics and raids but looses its shine on lack of endgame stats.

Comentário de Allakhazam

ilvl 95 items are almost always coming from heroic mobs from the non-lvl70 on normal instances.

Comentário de Allakhazam

Looks like the best hunter staff u can get if ur using staves. Stam, agi, and str (for ur pet). Obviously the equip effect doesnt do too much, but otherwise its pretty good

Comentário de Allakhazam

The head of the staff is a Dragon head, and the tongue lashes in and out like a snake, and flops around from side to side as you move.

Looks really cool.

When enchanted, the eyes and tongue get the effect and color, looks awesome with fire because it then looks like the dragonhead is breathing fire..

Comentário de Allakhazam

300 armor in addition to those feral stats is insane.

The graphic on it is also really neat and original.

Edited, Feb 9th 2007 12:24am by Makenzie

Comentário de Allakhazam

Dropped for me last night off Warp Splinter in Heroic mode Botanica.

Overall, all the bosses in Heroic were the same as normal just hit harder and more often (especially the 3rd boss, he does that Hellfire AOE alot more and it really hurts)

As for Warp Splinter, the best way to kill him in Heroic is the same as normal, ignore the adds and focus as much DPS as you can on him. His stomp hit me for around 1500 - 2000 and the arcane bolts were hitting for upto 4000. Took us about 3 attempts to get it all down, luckily you can still reset him by running up his ramp.

When I get home I will try to get a picture of the staff and send it in.

~~~~ Zendrak ~~~~
70 Druid on Firetree
Officer of < Shadow >

Comentário de Allakhazam

This drops from Heroic Botanica

Comentário de Allakhazam

where do u find this staff ?

Comentário de Allakhazam

I would love some pics of this.

Comentário de Allakhazam

you know, the armor loss compared to Earthwarden would only be 1100 in the upcoming patch (200 * 5 bear multiplier * 1.1 talent bonus) but it gives 29 Agility, which is 2% dodge and 58 armor (hey, a bit), not to forget the 33*10*1.25=412 HP, and has more AP which gives you a better chance to still hold aggro after the nerf... then again, you lose the +def and +feral skill rating... tough decision

Edited, Mar 1st 2007 11:21am by Nathanyel

Comentário de Allakhazam

does this only drop in heroic mode?

Comentário de Allakhazam

This is probaly one if the best druid staffs you can get

Comentário de Allakhazam

Guys, if you want to now where this !@#$ comes from, look up at the top where it says drop information. Come on, its right there

Comentário de Allakhazam

Warp Splinter, Botanica... heroic of course :]

Comentário de Thottbot

This drops from Heroic Botanica

Comentário de Thottbot

This is the best feral tanking staff after the wildfury greatstaff.

http://www.gurgleblaster.net/emmerald/Bear_Mitigation/Two_Hand.html

Check this link for cat/bear gear comparison and calculations. (its AWESOME)

Comentário de Thottbot

Drops from heroic Bot

Comentário de Thottbot

i've seen this on thunderlord server, at least one druid has it... and it might not be quite as nice as the one from illhoof, but its cooler and easier to get i think

Comentário de Thottbot

695 AP on cat form, this staff owns. i wish there was a hunter thing like this :P

Comentário de Thottbot

I've done Heroic Bot 9 times in the last 3 weeks and haven't seen it yet ... Curse my bad luck!

Comentário de Thottbot

I've run Heroic Bot over 60 times as well. I try and do it every day and the damn staff has yet to drop for me either. I'm starting to wonder if it will ever will.

Comentário de Thottbot

Yay just got it! 67 runs give or take a couple. Started to lose count. I dont know i it was worth the agravation but I certainly love my new staff. Whacked a +35 agil on it straight away!

Comentário de Thottbot

i got the staff after about...8 runs or so. i had to pay the resto druid to not roll on it

Comentário de Thottbot

Got mine on first heroic bot run. Just lucky I guess :)

Comentário de Thottbot

what rep do you need to get into heroic bot?

Comentário de Thottbot

heh went into heroic bot for my fist time hoping for the Dreamers Dragon staff that...uh never drops. couldnt down the deomon boss so we continued on. then the amazing happened, the lasher dropped and yes i blew out everyones ears on vent. awesome staff, gl to yall

Comentário de Thottbot

arrrgh this just wont drop for me and nether will illhoofs =( i missed kara 1 week and illhoofs staff dropped and only druid in raid was resto....wooot finaly got feral staff of lashing on run number 37 =) WOOOOOT!

Comentário de Thottbot

i have this on my moonkin with a savagery enchant. not for all the time, mind you, but it is most excellent for those long boss fights when the blue bar gets low

infinite mana ftw

Comentário de Thottbot

ive done botanica heroic many times and ive never seen it drop i dont really care about the staff just the badges but could use it from time to time. ive seen some one above saying u need a balanced group for it and its not true i tanked the whole instnace with out CC and we never wiped tho i must say healing must be a pain

Comentário de Thottbot

I just got this staff today. Took me maybe 8 H Bot runs for it.

I'm so happy to have it now ! :D

Comentário de Thottbot

Got it on my first H Bot run, very happy with it =)

Comentário de Thottbot

I have only ever seen this drop once.
I must have done it about 20+ times in total, so the drop rate of 15-20% seems to be way off based on what other people are saying.
Should you have 1000-2000g spare you could get a staff of Natural Fury from the AH instead, it's a similar item.

I got it on my 6th - 7th run, and was fortunate enough to get the Smouldering Shoulders from HC BF on the same day.

I would advise anybody who wants this staff to not got with anyone else who wants it!

The staff itself is the best staff both for tanking (assuming you have 25k+ armor) and cat DPS outside of raids. Awesome hybrid staff too.

Comentário de Thottbot

I've been trying for this staff for months... MONTHS! It's hard enough to get a group for Heroic BOT for some reason and apparently its even harder to actually get lucky and have this drop! -_-

I'm thinking about grabbing the Earthwarden for now and continue to work towards aquiring this staff... Though, I have with a +35 agi on it. If I were to get the Earthwarden, I'd lose a FOOK load of dodge. I'm not sure if it is really even worth it.

-Fanglõre
-Wildhammer

Comentário de Thottbot

I'm begining to think that Blizzard just claims to have put this staff in the "loot table" to con ppl into running heroic BOT. I've run this damn instance between 20-30 times and haven't seen it drop.

After looking at the differences between "Greatstaff of the Leviathan" vrs. "Earthwarden", I'm definately going to go with Earthwarden (for now). Especially after my win with the superbowl. I got about 2000g total waiting for me in my mailbox when I logon tonight. haha!

God damn Heroic BOT! DAMN IT TO HELL!

-Fanglõre
-Wildhammer

Comentário de Thottbot

Good Hunter item? You can't be serious... If I was in a group and by some miracle this staff dropped and I lost a need roll to a hunter I'd probably have to go to best buy shortly after cause by keyboard would be in about 200 pieces.

See the little green description to the bottom of the stats? It clearly stats it's a druid staff. That is a horrible Hunter weapon.

or

or even

Those are much more suited for a hunter than a "Feral" Staff of Lashing. -_-

Comentário de Thottbot

i got it a few nights ago, it was a great upgrade and with +35 agi enchant on it. wont be replaced for a while for either tanking or melee dps, unless i get earthwarden. very happy to ahve it and gl to all you druids trying to get it ;)

Comentário de Thottbot

idk man
id just do kara and get it from the illhoof boss
but you gotta admit
the agi enchant would be awesome on this!
and 300 armor
if you dont have the earthwarden
get this befor you get the earthwarden for tanking
but this one is a good dps/tanking staff
i just got it!
it was hard as %^&* though!

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