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Comentado por SaxxonPike

Best belt for rogues I've seen in BC to date, save for the ones available from PvP.

Comentado por 37727

girdle of treachery imo is still much better than this item. it's not that difficult to have hit on another item or even socket this baby with hit, agi, sta, or ap.

Comentado por Banshi

Girdle of the Deathdealer:
* 27 agi
* 27 stam
* 18 hit
* 54 AP

Girdle of Treachery:
* 15 agi
* 33 stam
* 52 AP
* 2 red sockets.

On a PvE standpoint(which is the only reason you would even be looking at these 2 belts because the lvl 70 hwl belt is best for pvp over these 2 belts any day) the Girdle of the Deathdealer is best.

Given it has 6 less stam but that is not a significant point for PvE.

Because combat is the PvE tree and white dmg is >60% of your total dmg when it comes to total sustained dps as a viable combat spec then +hit is your best friend. Given that Girdle of Treachery has 2 red sockets you would think you could just put 2 Rigid Dawnstones(+8 hit) in it and it would be just as good; but on the contrary, Girdle of the deathdealer already has 2 more +hit and 14 more AP than if you were to add those 2 gems. Not to mention that the extra AP comes from 12 more agility which adds to all the wonderful things that agi adds to(+crit, +dodge and the all important +armor!(lol)).

Synopsis: Girdle of the Deathdealer is the best PvE belt for a rogue. Girdle of Treachery will do if you arent striving to be the best, but rather striving to be good enough.

Comentado por 19246

Got buffed even more in 2.1:

28 agi
28 sta
20 hit rating
56 ap

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1 agi
1 sta
2 hit rating
2 ap

Comentado por 33227

best belt for rogues fo sho

Comentado por Foxpaw

I'm not seeing anyone listed for who this drops from :S

Comentado por bloodnightelf

anyone know if there's any other item in the game that shares this same skin??

Comentado por 57104

for pvp there's way better choices (veterans gear)

but pve wise it's one of the best ones pre-BT/Hyjal

other good ones:
belt of deep shadow
girdle of treachery

Comentado por 104901

If you don't have enough money for really good gems, this is probably better than Girdle of Treachery (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28750) from Chess Event in Karazhan.

Girdle of the Deathdealer

28 agility
28 stamina
56 AP
20 hit rating

Girdle of Treachery

18 agility
37 stamina
58 AP
2 x Red Sockets

Because of the hit rating, I think this is better for those who doesn't have reached their hit cap and don't wanna spend 80-100g on gems.

Comentado por Allakhazam

This is a good Rouge belt. Gives pluses to agility and to hit rating.
But it could be used for other classes just as well.

Comentado por Allakhazam

drops off final boss in black morass, aeonus heroic

Edited, Feb 26th 2007 5:42pm by Shiftor

Comentado por Thottbot

blizzard running out of name ideas?

Comentado por Thottbot

I believe this was listed as a drop of a Black Morass boss in AtlasLoot.

I hope it isn't, or it drops well in heroic mode for I have no intention to do that instance in normal mode anymore.

Anyway - I should mention that I consider this as a Top 3 belt for feral catform.
I guess it's like Top 10 for rogues, too.

Comentado por Thottbot

well more top 1 than top 10 for rogues
it is :

15 crit rating
18 hit rating
81 ap
27 sta

better than Primalstrike Belt

9.4 crit rating
97 ap
29 sta

better than Girdle of Treachery (2*8agi)

18.7 crit rating
86 ap
33 sta

better than Gronn-Stitched Girdle (4agi 6 sta / 8crit)

32.2 crit rating
68 ap
24 sta

Comentado por Thottbot

He has added socket stats in parenthesis and then used those stats in his calculations. Pay attention!

Comentado por Thottbot

pr3d_wa is right, even when you put blue gems in other girdles, deathdealer is still nr1 and has decent sta :D

Comentado por Thottbot

I just want to know if this looks like recolored Nightslayer. I've found the rest of the "set" but don't have a link for this belt.

Comentado por Thottbot

Armory is still in Beta. Some people show as a totally different class and level, let alone have differnt stats. Though I went on to that server checked gear, and witht he right talents you still dont come close to the 668 or whatever you claimed to have. So, yeah, GG pop ur liar's cord on and go solo hogger noob.

On to the item. Currently it is the best rogue belt and feral druids are wanting it as well. Our druid class leader is feral (only two feral in guild, other is tank) and is equiped with the treachery belt. Occording to him he will be upgrading to this for his own specific rolls and needs. I, being a rogue, use this as well. Don't mind giving up the gems for the boost in stats and dmg. I am a full dps dagger raid spec Mutilate atm. The only reason for this is poisons really. EXTREMELY helpful in both pvp and pve. I like to DOT certain classes so garrote/rupture/deadly is a sure fire way to destroy some casters. Not always can you two hit a warlock or oomkin. Only item I am needing to upgrade is my Mantle of Perenolde to the Bladed Pads. gg on getting this it is amazing.

Comentado por Thottbot

Where does this drop?

Comentado por Thottbot

This is the number one cat dps belt in the game currently. For both sustained and burst dps.

Comentado por Thottbot

Let me preface this by telling you that i play a rogue. 13/41/7 atm but changing after the patch.

This belt is in my opinion the best pve belt in game currently. hands down.

the stat combination is excellent. nowhere can you get a belt that gives this amount of agility AND stamina, unless you went for a socket belt. If youre using your sockets to match this belt on stats, you wont be able to match it in hit rating.

for some reason people refuse to believe that hit rating is valuable, claiming that crit rating outweighs hit rating. people, this is a fallacy.
16 hit rating is equal to 1% increased chance to hit.
22 crit rating is equal to 1% increased chance to crit.

and some say "but Prudentia, i get more damage from criting then i do from hiting". common misconception. let me show you what i mean.

regular hit = 100%. crit = 200%. 100% increase
Missed hit = 0%. regular hit = 100%. 100% increase

the average crit% on a level 70 rogue is ~23-24% from what ive seen, and ive seen alot of level 70 rogues. just as it is with ANY stat you load on, you drop your other stats to replace them. Your attacks roll to hit or miss first based on your statistics and percentages. then they roll for defenses, such as parry, dodge, block. THEN they roll for criticals. if you cant hit your target, you cant crit your target. there is no such thing as a critical miss.

now to the main event.. Druids in catform need exactly the same stats a rogue needs. a good way to look at it is, a rogue is just a more advanced cat druid. this being said any cat form druid would have all the right in the world to roll on this against a rogue. great belt for ANYONE who can use it effectively.

Comentado por Thottbot

This instace is as impossible as heroic arcatraz i hate this instance but i love this belt damn...

Comentado por Thottbot

Man, you're totally wrong with your table of hitting and missing.

The chance that you miss INFLUENCES the chance to dodge and parry 'cause the missed hit would have the chance to be dodged or parried IF the attack WOULD hit so this "math" you've done is totally nonsense.

Why do you think Blizz changed the 41 Combat talent? In the primal form, you could'nt miss with BS and SS, but why they changed that ultra superior 1337 skill?

Exactly, 'cause it's the pure $%^& for backstabbers. good equipped rogues had >~60% Crit with backstab. NOT critting was very bad for the Energy/DMG rate, 'cause only critting BS are worth the energy. So if you hit EVERY time with backstabs, you will lose 60 energy for low DMG in stead of losing 8 energy for a miss that COULD be a hit, but more probably a crit. So hitting all the time as a BSer, you're lowering your effectiveness (maybe this word exists, dunno i'm german) of your energy/dmg rate 'cause all the hits which only hit 'cause of the talent could be a miss which would be more efficient. That's why blizz changed the ultra superior 1337 primal 41 Combat talent. and before you flame, this is only valid for BACKSTABBERS. for the SS spamers, it was a dream. if you don't understand this math, go to school again und study once more. maybe then you see that you can't simply add all chances in a fight.

Ever heard of stochastics? No? That's why you're writing such a nonsense.

Edit: hmm, what i've written down has somehow nothing to do with the girdle, but i had to get rid off it. man, how i hate stupid people.

i prefer crit rating more than hit rating. later in Karazhan and the 25 instances, you get very much items with hit rating. enough for me, so i pull out every percent of crit i can get out of my items. still, this belt is really nice, i would take it anytime, but it's not that superior one. it depends on your remaining gear how good this belt is for you.

Comentado por Thottbot

Haha, all this debate. All I know is that this is better than my current belt, and I want it. 'Nuff said.

Comentado por Thottbot

i have https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30372/cinturão-de-socrethar and want to upgrade this one searching ppl to BM heroic in TN (eu) whis Crocky , after 15th portal adds kick ass ...

Comentado por Collatory

I am on run 24th and this NEVER dropped please do something about this it's literally absurd!

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