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Postado por megamags

This smells like a troll....

My thoughts exactly lol

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Postado por Shinshiva

so instead of passing out loot at the end of each boss kill, ive been hording it till the very end. Why? for one, most ppl who run vault for instance only want to kill the first boss and leave right after.keeping loot makes everyone want to stay till the very end for loot. 2nd and this happened to me not long ago is that ppl are willing to pay big bucks for gear/mounts, after the mammoth dropped ppl start whispering crazy prices for it. Needless to say is i made a profit that day. so to keep ninjas and whiners outta my raid this is how ill start running things.

So you're a control freak that wants to make sure that everything is done your way. Well done. Ass.

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Postado por pezz

i do let everyone roll on gear.And Mounts, just so happened that day i won it...

Hold on, your English is pretty bad so I want to confirm this, are you saying you won a roll for a mammoth and then sold it?

I personally wouldn't feel right rolling on an item and then selling it, but as a raid leader I never give out BoP drops conditionally, once I've given it to a person, it's theirs. If they want to sell it I'll consider that when it comes time to form another raid group, but I won't say 'no I gave that to you on the condition that you were going to do x with it.' Your reputation is probably shot though.

Also everyone should ask the RL to be clear on loot rules before starting a pug, so everyone else gets some of the responsibility if they didn't bother asking for clarification.

And the Gold DKP argument is irrelevant here: He didn't split the gold, there wasn't a pot or anything like that. Argent's post would be invalid if we were talking about that kind of system but the way MilkyWhite seems to be saying the raid went Argent's hypothetical poor player is holding the short end of the stick.

Normal DKP more or less works the same way, so that argument doesn't work. In a GDKP system everyone gets some of the gold, so everyone's chance of getting a drop on the next run goes up slightly (and equally) compared to yours (assuming static gold values and gold only being spent on gear in GDKP runs, so I realize this isn't the greatest model). With normal DKP you lose your DKP but everyone else's values remain static, so everone's chance of getting a drop also goes up slightly and equally on the next run. With a direct trade between the arbitrary roll winner and the highest bidder, the highest bidder may not lose any power to get drops (if he wins the rolls and refuses to sell items) and everyone's chance of receiving loot compared to that person does NOT go up equally. The person who won the roll has a new huge pool of money to pay for the next drop, but everyone else is still reliant on their rolls.

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Postado por pezz

To be fair, it makes sense if you stick to it. I can see a lot of raiders with 20 minutes to kill saying 'Alright I got my t9 from Kora, screw Archa kthxbai' and holding on to those drops until everything is down might make them stick around.

You'd have to build a bit of a reputation before people trusted you to do that though, probably.

Postado por ArgentSun

The OP either changed his arguments - claiming that he allowed fair rolls and sold only pieces he won fairly - or he clarified. Regardless of the case, I think we established that the behavior originally described was bad. I am personally willing to accept, as well as dislike, the corrected version.

Game over.

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