Elemental Shaman will share gear with Resto Shaman in Cata

Postado por 411767

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Postado por Gnub

Finally. A viable solution to the current lame system. I'm really looking forward to seeing how this will work out :)

Postado por GenXCub

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be... spirit?

This confuses me. Blizzard wanted to simplify gear so that it was more readily apparent what items were clearly better than others. However, they're keeping things like hit rating, and just making you take a talent to convert spirit into it? How does that help reduce the confusion?

Is it any different than having them say "we're calling hit rating analcheese now but it does the same thing. Look for gear with analcheese on it."

Postado por Gnub

Problem is, there's only two specs in the whole game that uses mail caster armor, and they're designed to require different stat. By pulling this Spirit/Hit thing, they're effectively giving both shaman and both druid specs the same itemization - which is brilliant. It's not really to avoid confusion, not in this case at least.

If "ohnoes spirit! i no can haz comprehend!" is going to scare aware tons of shamans, then great - less of those around then.

Postado por tomgc

I wonder what they will so about Chain Heal spammers in Cata. We want haste, but now Int+SP are mixed. So Paladins, Druids and Priests get benefit from the other half since they stacked one of the stats already. But CH spammers just end up lagging behind, or not gemming haste.

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Postado por niemassacre

Great change. Ele Shaman are really boned right now - they don't want MP5 mail gear, nor any of the cloth/leather gear that has spirit on it. So they roll against Holy Paladins and Resto Shaman on SP/Crit/Haste Mail gear, and against even more classes/specs for non-spirit cloth/leather gear. Poor guys.

The one change I haven't yet seen that I'd like to see implemented is a way to not need caster-itemized plate gear. I hope they can find a work-around for this, so that we don't need to keep this ridiculousness of a whole gear type for one spec of one class.

Postado por skribs

I think "reduce confusion" is with regards to specific stats which may function just slightly differently but basically do the same thing. I think "simplify" is a better term. From what I can tell, here's what they're trying to accomplish:

Remove redundancy in stats which basically do the same thing (e.g. ArP+AP, MP/5+Spirit)
Consolidate stats which are always found together (e.g. Agi+AP, Int+SP)
Make gear available for more than one spec (while this doesn't apply to Holy Pallies - it does apply to druids and shamans, in essence an 80% fix to that problem)

Niemassacre, what you're likely to see is mail gear having Int+Stam, and then 2-3 additional stats between Spirit, Crit, Haste, Mastery. As elemental will convert spirit to hit, you can get hit capped using the gear with spirit on it, and going for the pieces without spirit past that. Should you get too much spirit, you can also reforge some of that spirit into crit/haste/mastery. If blizzard is smart, they'll make it so that the amount of spirit you likely need at a given tier will be the same as the hit you need.

Note also Blizzard is going to make stats such as hit cap higher at higher tiers (e.g. so it may be 17% for casters at tier 11, 18% at tier 12, 20% at tier 13, or something like that).

Postado por 66221

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Postado por Haxzor

basically you can be Ele/Resto with 1 set of gear!

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Postado por Haxzor

basically you can be Ele/Resto with 1 set of gear!

Except gems and enchants but the basic idea says yes.

you could do it with all sp/haste gems and the enchants shouldnt differ too much

Postado por Bigbreath

The one change I haven't yet seen that I'd like to see implemented is a way to not need caster-itemized plate gear. I hope they can find a work-around for this, so that we don't need to keep this ridiculousness of a whole gear type for one spec of one class.

The only way, imo would be to remove plate-caster gear altogether and have the Holy Pallies in Mail as well, which wouldnt be a terrible idea, seeing as there is heavy competition for the cloth gear - why not increase competition for the Mail gear too? :D

Elemental Shaman will share gear with Resto Shaman in Cata

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