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PvP Guide for beginners 4.0.1
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well your spec is more bg oriented. Theirs is arena oriented. In arena a lock can lifetap a lot. Specialy with a spec like that where you are a tank and not a dd. Fel con is useless vs a good melee. Its like a big green arrow that points you and says KICK ME. So they dont pick it up either way.
Coex is not that good. Some swear by it some not. I thinks is overestimated.
Imp healt fun can save your demon. Demonic brut cant. That -20% dmg paired with demonic resiliance makes the felguard lauph at melee burst.
Also mana feed is needed. Since battles can last long in the arena eventualy your felguard will run out of mana. How often do you cast fire spells?
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well your spec is more bg oriented. Theirs is arena oriented. In arena a lock can lifetap a lot. Specialy with a spec like that where you are a tank and not a dd. Fel con is useless vs a good melee. Its like a big green arrow that points you and says KICK ME. So they dont pick it up either way.
Coex is not that good. Some swear by it some not. I thinks is overestimated.
Imp healt fun can save your demon. Demonic brut cant. That -20% dmg paired with demonic resiliance makes the felguard lauph at melee burst.
Also mana feed is needed. Since battles can last long in the arena eventualy your felguard will run out of mana. How often do you cast fire spells?
those are some good points and yes i hadnt considered in arena you normally have a healer, i normally do bgs, because there i can make a difference and dont have to rely on others nearly as much, I need to just break down and find a good partner and start arenaing, also i still swear by fel con just because i find it better than grim reach but again i normally do bgs where that little bit of extra reach isnt that big of a deal, the other thing is drain life/mana/soul etc is a green arrow but imp health funnel isnt? lastly i cast a lot of immos and incins on people so i do run oom occaisionaly in big bgs like av, or if i camp the gy in wsg. again if i can find a good partner to run 2s with me i might try their spec in arena but till then ill stick to mine for bgs. all in all you do have some good points and ill have to think some of them over.
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when you health funnelling the target is the pet not you :D They take the skill for the damage reduction not the extra heal.
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orloxgr
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what the majority can get is hatefull. Even if you are doing every week all valor awarding raids you can get around 30. You need 180 emblems for all parts. Thats 6 weeks no matter what. Also most of the people that are doing raids will prefere buying pve goodies instead of pvp. But you can get to full hatefull into a week or less.
I say aim for the hatefull. Its the starter equipment naturaly as savage was the previous period. Then try to upgrade.
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mindthegap5
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lol i pvp in tier 7.5
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orloxgr
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yes, thanx for the chest correction, I had the extra gem before i included the buckle too now.
mindthegap5
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Got some PvP gear now it makes me die less but i kill less. I guess it's the price you pay
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orloxgr
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glyph section added
orloxgr
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Inserted demo spec and a few info. Minor look corrections.
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Deep Demo Note this is a "noob" spec. Demo is okay for PvP, but once you try out either Affliction or Destruction, you'll see the huge difference. Demonology spec is very reliant on Metamorphosis pulling a lot of their weight in PvP, and it just isn't that good. Putting faith in one skill is not good especially when it has a CD. Afflic and Destro have more of a variety and options.
I strongly disagree with this. Well, in a way you are right, lots of noobs stand zero chance to win with meta on cd. But the spec if played right is very reliable pvp spec. Granted if you have a healer in two's or three's then afflic or destro would be a better choice. But double and tripple dps teams like mage-lock, or mage-lock-feral druid are hard to do as squishy destro or afflic (pure specs I call them, all burst or all dot).
Demo is more of anti melee spec. While a destro lock says "oh no here comes that warrior!", demo says "that warrior has no idea hehe". And no, demo doesnt say that because he has meta up his sleeve. I can beat a warrior without meta unless he has bladestorm and i have no circle planted. You just cant hurt demo, and it puts out damn good dps. Even when stun locked felguard is swinging away, and he hits pretty hard on a leather rogue.
So yeah, in a noobs hands demo is a noob spec. Same goes with the dot-dot-tab noobs of afflic, noobs will be noobs and make the spec look bad.
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Ok then. If you disagree the best thing you can do is give a spec - glyphs and some gaming tips, specialy vs paladins and locks. Ill implement then it to my guide.
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Changed a few things. Replaced a few stuff to favor more destruction, added a mini destruction gameplay guide, changed leg enchant (thanx Valygar).
NephtysAlakir make it nice and Ill added but as I saw it its still comfusing. Like fear - charm share same dr but this is making it like they are on diferent one.
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