13 Reasons vs Forsaken & Alliance Claim To Lordaeron City

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Dont confuse an argument with a debate.

ok heres my arguement. your idea of how this whole undead lordaeron city thing should be is just stupid i dont need to say why because other posters have already done so. i dont think you see that no one really cares or agrees with what you have to say about this.

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.......ok to settle this. to anyone other then the op am i trolling? as hard as this is to belive i really dont have a clue what a forum troll is.

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Clearly all the Horde fan boys think a call to arms proves a point.

i play alliance.....and this is based on the lore of the game not the faction you play.

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3. Again, your point? You dont have to be the same race, religion, creed, w/e, as someone to see that they are a capable and strong leader.

HUMAN LAND. ELF LEADER. need i say more ?

Sorry but I have to say this.

America...Obama.

WHITE LAND. BLACK LEADER. need i say more ?

African Americans arent a different race, they are humans like Caucasian Americans. gg

well...if you want to get picky...

How about this?

Rainforest.

Tree frog land, Bulldozer Leader. Need I say more?

((but seriously, once the humans went "oh no, zombies!" and ran away, I'm pretty sure the place was up for grabs and is no longer "human land". ))

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Yeah I do think its strange that an undead High Elf is the leader of the Forsaken, which is mostly a faction of undead Humans. Although, on the other side of things, for most villainous factions the leader is not of the majority race - Pit lords leading fel orcs, a Night Elf leading demons, a firelord leading Dark Irons, a human leading the undead (Arthas never truly died, although I suppose you could say he's undead now that his heart has been destroyed), and so on. I really do think of the Forsaken though as a "bad guy" faction that is just part of the Horde because they want to get the more evil aligned players to play. All other races range from Good to Neutral, but Forsaken are truly evil (even Blood Elfs are just Neutral, they don't go out of their way to hurt others, they just take out anyone who is in their way)

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Clearly all the Horde fan boys think a call to arms proves a point.

Clearly all the Alliance fan boys wants a cool city like UC

Best point to prove Humans don't deserve UC is that they couldn't retake it yet..

The reason they haven't retaken it, is because Blizzard pulled a #$%^& move making Forsaken playable, because now Forsaken can never be wiped out until they end WoW. You know the alliance successfully raided Undercity in WOTLK, so if Forsaken didn't have a massive race wide character shield, I would think they would have to be hanging out in Orgimmar for a lot longer.

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The Alliance owns Lordaeron City rightfully and heres the reasons why:

1. The Kingdom was founded by the living humans
Living....and? As said, in war, you take territory, you keep it.

2. Forsaken are simply scourge that got lucky and ran off thanks to Illidan.
The Forsaken broke off from the scourge, they are no longer scourge. They have a mind of there own and are no longer connected to Arthas. For god's sake, they are trying to kill him!

3. Sylvanas isnt even a human or " Forsaken Human ", remind me when an ELF had claim to human lands.
There are these things called "night elves". From my understanding, the high elves evolved or something from night elves. The blood elves came from high elves/ highborne, I forget which.

4. The rightful owners of Lordaeron are the people who were smart enough to flee and save their lives, the Forsaken were the ones who chose the wrong option ( trusting Arthas on his return )
See number 1.

5. Forsaken living under Undead Blood Elf or Undead High Elf ( depending on view ) rule shows how misdirected the Forsaken are.
... Wow, I dont even get what you are saying here. You sure you speak English?

6. Forsaken want revenge on their own families ( the living ) because they escaped with their lives ? They are blaming their undeath on humans even though Arthas at the time was scourge affiliated killed them...
Uh, NO! WRONG! The Forsaken want revenge on the SCOURGE and ARTHAS.

7. Forsaken have many times stated that the Horde is a convenience affiliation, theres a reason why even the Horde are fools for trusting a Human faction led by an Elf...
I will acknowledge that the Forsaken Horde alliance is only for convienences, however, what human faction are you talking about? Stormwind? Or are you talking about territory...?

8. Garrosh is a stupid leader choice and the Forsaken following his leadership will simply try to kill him as he wasnt the leader they confided in and hes " living ".
And this relates to the Forsaken's claim on the land...how?

9. The Lordaeron flag still flies outside the city, the Forsaken has its own flag yet you're unliving under a Human flag led by an Elf ?
OMFG! THE FORSAKEN FORGOT TO TAKE DOWN SOME FLAGS! THIEVES! /end sarcasm. And what DO you have against elves?

10. Sylvanas complained when being tortured by Arthas why she was being turned into a banshee, yes she complained about Undeath then decides to lead them " passionately " ?
See number 5.

11. Forsaken's overall goal is to rid themselves of Undeath evidenced in a Horde quest in league with the Grimtotems, that would make them Human again, therefore proving it still would remain Human land.
The ONE good piece of info you provided, BUT....this relates to the claims HOW?

12. Forsaken = Scourge.
See number 2.

13. Forsaken occupy the " undercity " or " catacombs of Lordaeron ", therefore they are complaining about something they dont even want or have currently
The Forsaken aren't complaining, they are content with the Undercity.

Fail troll is fail.

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You know I heard if you personally kill 1 billion guards then solo Sylvanas you can lay claim to the Undercity. You should try it and see where it gets you. It will probably be more productive than this thread. Their is no true debate over the internet. Especially not over a game on a Fan based forum.

Also you are wrong. Mr. Bigglesworth is the leader of UC.

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3. Again, your point? You dont have to be the same race, religion, creed, w/e, as someone to see that they are a capable and strong leader.

HUMAN LAND. ELF LEADER. need i say more ?

Sorry but I have to say this.

America...Obama.

WHITE LAND. BLACK LEADER. need i say more ?

African Americans arent a different race, they are humans like Caucasian Americans. gg

Umm, actually African Americans are a different "race", however, they are the same species. gg.

13 Reasons vs Forsaken & Alliance Claim To Lordaeron City

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