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Comment by 1857

I've heard mixed rumors about this thing only haveing a set 3 charges or those charges renew. Can anyone confirm this?

Comment by 18069

I got it, but i want to know if it is rechargable? i used 1 of the 3. can an enchanter charge it?

Comment by Xelopheris

This thing is INCREDIBLY powerful for it's level now. It's Use function was originally 50% increased speed. When the ratings system was put in place, everything was given the same rating for level 60, thus, this was given enough rating points for a level 60 haste of 50%. And it's a LOT more at level 30. I don't know the numbers off the top of my head, but my friend's pally was able to, with Seal of Crusader, get a 0.6 attack speed with this. A two handed mace, 0.6 AS. Yeah, it's powerful.

Comment by 17529

I used all 3 charges up and there is no repairing it other than durability. There is no cooldown counter listed, so I don't think it has a 24 hour recharge. Use the 3 charges wisely.

Comment by Koko

This also happens to be the fastest 2 hander you can get. Real handy if you really need to level your 2 handed mace skill quickly.
(Feral druid with too much times in his hands)

Comment by 24754

After you use up the 3 charges for it, this mace is pretty useless. Since it's a two-hander, warriors would be better off dual-wielding, since the top-end damage isn't too spectacular because of the 2.0 speed.

It would be more viable for a paladin or druid to use it because it is very fast and obviously those classes can't dual-wield. You could use this weapon for maybe a few levels until you would find something far more superior.

If this weapon was slower it would be a much better in my opinion.

Comment by 27574

Since this hasn't been pointed out already, this weapon has more strength than anything else at level 29, which makes it awesome for a feral druid, since all druids care about on weapons are stats.

Comment by bloodseek

i got this weapon at around lvl 30 with my feral druidl. i just hit lvl 40 and i'm still using this weapon.

Comment by 40551

If you engage the "Use" on this and then switch weapons, the haste buff is unfortunately lost. A guildmate of mine who has the weapon just tested it.

Comment by 44717

Way nice, i use them with my Feral. Drops cat attack speed to .46 or around there. Also the 16 str is alot better than almost anything until u get into the mid 40's something.

Comment by bwirum

I use this on my 29 BG shammy and put rockbiter on it. Switch between this and the Corpsemaker - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=6687 with flametongue.

They both rock, but in different ways and for different situations.

Comment by 43728

Use the charge and Seal of Crusader and you start hitting really, really, REALLY fast.
The charges cannot be renewed, and the only way to get the charges again is to farm for a new weapon.

Comment by 47900

lol i used my charges with seal of the crusader in a pvp and dealt about 3400 damage at arathi basin

Comment by Cybersonix

Does this item still uses charges or can you use the haste as many times as you want? Cuz if you look on atlas loot then it deosn't say that it has 3 charges. And i have the latest version of atlas

How long is the cooldown on this?

Comment by 58088

You can easily farm this beauty as a feral druid.
I did it at lvl36 with no problems:
- sneak through the instance (map: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/screenshot=view&7.133#2603)
- there are 2 pats near the boss, including an alarm bot (stealth detection!)
- HOT yourself and fight the boss at the edge where he is standing, but tank him with your back against a wall on the right/left side since he has a knockback attack
- the boss doesn't hit very hard and is NOT immune to stuns so you can bash and heal yourself up. My stats were around 1,7k health, 18% crit, 300 ap, 20% dodge and ~2250 armor. Didn't have to use frenzied regeneration.

dropped in the first kill :)
happy farming

Comment by chunkhead

the 3 charges isnt QUITE so bad considering that it isnt unique.
at level 24 or something really low, have a 70 rogue or hunter friend farm this boss for a day or something and get a collection of 4 or 5. sounds like a hassle, but thats 12 more charges and a few levels right there. :D

or u can just get a corpsemaker >> https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=6687

Comment by 68272

also If you're solo farming this at a low lvl and you aggro the alarm bot reset the instance. His friends that killed you will still be following him.

Comment by 25585

I use this on my 29 twink druid.

Comment by 64929

I got this on my 29 shaman the speed is awsome if u use fish liver oil https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=1322 and u get flurry my speed was 0.3 if i remembee right and i pwned mobs very very fast

Comment by Avalonia

This is THE druid weapon to get at 29. You will not replace this until Uldaman when you can get Ironshod Bludgeon (20 stam 8 str) for tanking and The Rockpounder (5 str 28 crit rating) for dps. It also makes the best twink item for a 29 druid imo as you put attack power on your weapon and stam on your gear...plus, this isnt that hard to get from gnomer because all you have to do is clear the back door hall way and one other room.

Comment by 76959

OMG amazingness for all classes that weild maces! :P

and sells for a lot for ppl who don't weild maces

Comment by 73789

The worst thing for feral druid is the item level. It`s impossible to put 35 agi on it and 25 agi regs are too expensive for now.

Comment by 68555

Was just thinking, cant a raiding dps warror/pally get a few of these, swap -> use -> swap normal dps weapon?

Comment by Swordy

a MUST keep for those who can get it. any class that can use 2H maces should consider keeping this even to 70. heres why, most two handed maces are slow 3.4 speed or higher. this weapon will attack almost twice as fast, letting you raise your mace skill in nearly half the time. anyone whos tried to level a weapon skill on a warrior from 1-300 knows leveling weapon skill SUCKS.
so yeah, keep this in your bank until you finally craft that deep thunder or even pick up that "the oathkeeper" at 68. you wont be doing any damage without the weapon skill near max anyway, you might as well be attacking twice as fast.

Comment by 104602

Hmm...does the haste's spped increase stack with other attack speed increasing abilities? If so, could a low-health troll enhancement shaman or fury warrior could get a crit and activate flurry, then activate berserking and the weapon ability to be able to attack a couple times a second with this weapon? That seems a bit too good to work...

Comment by 35262

(https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=6043)

Not a single mention of adding a Counter-Weight. I know it's only a 20 rating for haste, but it does increase a weapon's speed. If your talking about increasing a wep's spd then a BS is all you need.

Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

Comment by 113665

i like this for my twink warrior, the 2.00 is nice when my crusader procs ^.^ but using my abilities aint alot of fun :(-
having https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=6687 with 25 agility is a better choise and easyer to farm..

Comment by skribs

For those who think it's great to have a fast 2Her, think again.
-Weapon procs (i.e. crusader, mongoose, windfury totem/weapon, Seal of Command) are based on a procs-per-minute system, meaning slower weapons are actually BETTER. It's not a straight 10% or 20% chance to hit, it's 6 or 8 procs per minute. So a 2.0 weapon actually has 50% the chance to proc per hit as a 4.0 weapon. Or you can look at it as in 1 minute, both weapons would proc the same number of times, but the 4.0 will do much more damage per proc.
-2H Fury warriors, once they hit level 30-32ish (which is well within where you could be using this weapon) are going to have imp slam, which benefits most from a SLOWER weapon. Instant attacks and/or attacks which reset the swing timer are best used on slower weapons.

However, at level 29, or for druids, the speed doesn't matter TOO much. Warriors would get much weaker overpowers, but that's about it, shamans dont have wind fury yet, and ofc speed doesn't matter for druids as feral trumps attack speed. Paladin twinks should avoid this like the plague though.

Comment by 96074

Do you lose the weapon after the 3 charges are used? Alos an addon I have says it gives +123% as a lvl 29 pally.

Comment by 112784

The greatest haste effect in the game..... If the effect is still in use after you un equip the weapon then its going to be a great wep for lvl 70 chars ;) let me check it first

Comment by Thottbot

he said that charges cannot be replantished

Comment by Thottbot

This would actually be a really good weapon for (shapeshifting) Druids because of the stats. When shapeshifting, the damage of your weapon doesn't matter, it's all based on strength and attack power. The agility is nice too for crits and dodge. Too bad the effect only has 3 charges, but hey, great stats for a mace this level.

Comment by Thottbot

now that makes baby jesus cry.

Comment by Thottbot

in 1.10 there making it so a druid can use equipped items abilitys while shifted...so it might stack with cat form, which would be insanely sick...

Comment by Thottbot

As of 1.11.2 this things still has the charges...

Comment by Thottbot

you cant get the charges back which kinda

sucks cus it did some crazy damage when i used it

and to get to this guy, if u took the shortcut, follow the path to the boss until u see the elevator going down then go left and after about 3 groups of guys he is ther on the edge but dont kill him while your next to the edge b/c he'll kick u off

Comment by Thottbot

Haste effects were buffed in patch 2.0.7 by about 50%. So some new numbers:

500 Haste Rating Equals:
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At level 29: 185.71% haste, 0.70 speed (0.35 kitty form)
At level 45: 105.41% haste, 0.97 speed (0.49 kitty form)
At level 60: 75% haste, 1.14 speed (0.57 kitty form)
At level 70: 31.71% haste, 1.52 speed (0.76 kitty form)

Comment by Thottbot

The effect on the wepon only has 3 charges. So you can only use it 3 times. All it dose is make you hit faster(look at other people notes for effects at different lvs). No one realy should need this other than druids, palys have vergans fist and warrs are gana get hurricane wepons in a few more lv's. Along with that both palys and warrs can use axes and their are much better axes avilable around this lv.

It drops off of a boss on the east side of the work shop in gnomeragan, its a 33% drop rate and the other 67% he drops some crapy green boots. The boss is called Croud Pummler, most groups skip them but if you need it speak up and your group should be happy to take the extra 10 mins it takes to get to and kill the boss.

And pato you have to have it equiped to use it.

Comment by Thottbot

As of the 2.1.3 patch, it "still" has the limited 3 charges thing. It's a shame that they'll never change it to a CD.. Even a 30 min cooldown would be fine.

Anyways, you could farm a bunch of these since it's not unique and you can use the backdoor. It's the 1st boss from there. Would just be kinda silly, though even so that the drop rate is around around 30-35%.

Comment by Thottbot

for a 29 enhancement shaman twink, would this or corpsemaker be better?

Comment by Thottbot

this is a total Druid weapon

Comment by Thottbot

No use for paladins?

Seal of the Crusader + The mace charged trait at lvl 29 gives you 0.6 attack speed.

this weapon is also awesome for paladins.

seriously.

0.6.

win.

Comment by Thottbot

Trying to get this mace as it is great for druids, killed Pummeler 13 times and he still hasn't dropped it....*sigh*

Comment by Thottbot

This thing is AMAZING with Seal of the Crusader and its 3 charge ability. The only thing that needs to be changed it that it should have infinite charges and be on a 1 hour cooldown.

Comment by Feralsoul

This is over a decade late but there's a lot of strong indication this might be the best in slot druid melee item in raids because of its stats and the on use effect, which works with Cat Form. The other key element? These can be farmed as they are not in any way Unique, meaning druids could have bunches of these and burn through each, swap, then repeat. No, this is not a joke.

We will see what happens when Classic goes live but this might be one of those quirky items that gains a bit of infamy and fame because of it.

Comment by Allakhazam

Ok, since someone already asked about the charges, does anyone have any opinions for PVP with this? I am gonna use this/cobalt crusher/corpsemaker and see which is best, I wish the charges were unlimited . . .

Comment by Allakhazam

I have 2 accounts and tomorrow I'm going to 'farm' this weapon for my alt. Since this item is not unique, I'm just gonna get 5 of those and put 4 on the bank. When I used the haste thingie 3 times I'm gonna get another one from the bank. :)

Comment by Allakhazam

9 kills.
0 drops.
33% drop rate my furry ass.

Comment by Allakhazam

The speed increase only has 3 charges.

Comment by Allakhazam

im still confused... it would make sense if the +500 haste rating only had 3 charges but from what people are saying it sounds like the weapon disappears after the 3 charges are used. is this true? can someone please post a reply? i know i'm not the first one to ask this question but it hasn't been answered (or if it was it wasn't clear, or maybe im just really dense) but could someone post a plain english answer? does it disappear after the charges are used? yes or no?

Comment by Allakhazam

This is an awesome Shapeshifting weapon. I'm farming for it now on my 48 Druid :)

Comment by Allakhazam

I got this mace when a few of my guildies were running me through gnomer. I got all 6 of my quests done, and this hammer, along with the blue ring from one of the bosses. I was one happy little paladin after that 3 hour run. I'm very pleased with its speed, all of my plus dmg/hit with blacksmithing or chance on hit things from retribution i throw on are great, not to mention it had to replace my Verigan's Fist. the only things i miss are the Int and spirit boost.

Comment by Allakhazam

If u repair it, does it repair the charges like in Diablo 2? If so, its cool, if not, its kinda for Emergencies only.

Comment by Allakhazam

By far the greatest Mace to drop pre-40. Got it on my first run in Gnomer too :).

Comment by Allakhazam

Pretty easy to solo as a druid at 30, and Manual Crowd Pummeler is a great weapon for a druid for a while.

If you don't have the Workshop key, kill that boss first. Use a nature protection potion before hand. Workshop key makes it easier if you die or do it later.

Once you have the key enter through the workshop entrance, circle around where Crowd Pummeler 9-60 is located. Kill the alarm-bot on the way in one of the empty hallways. Once you get to the boss, pull him straight back and place yourself against the wall in the middle of the room. The pathing mobs don't go inside of the room itself so you will be safe from aggro.

The fight itself is easy, trick is to use bear instead of cat since he is immune to your bleeds and he is stunnable. Stay in bear and keep demoralizing roar up and spam maul, when you are about at 30% Bash/Warstomp and Heal. I recommend using both HoTs and a greater healing potion since it is fast you won't get hit in caster form more than once. Repeat until dead, you should only have to heal yourself twice. Fight lasts about 90 secs - 2 mins.

You could probably do it at a lower level. Under 28 may be tricky since stealthing in may be an issue, and the pathing mobs may aggro you. I'd probably wait until at least 28 if your geared in blues, 29 or 30 otherwise.

Comment by Allakhazam

I've been to Gnomeregan quite a few times and NEVER seen this mob, can anyone tell me where to find him? I'm guessing he's a rare spawn but maybe not, any info would be appreciated.

Comment by Allakhazam

I used this + Seal of Crusader + Fishliver oil for a total of +100% speed but i wasnt.....hitting at 0.0 seconds. lame lawlz

Comment by Allakhazam

Hey i got this drop and now that i used it on Ogres in Alterac Mountains all 3 charges gone. How does one recharge it. NO cooldown period because i tried.

If 3 charges is all u get, then this weapon is very mediocre in my opinion. Would be best if after 30 minute cooldown it recharges back to 3. That would be good.

Blizzard needs to fix this.

Comment by Allakhazam

I plan on getting this with my druid to help explain some of the questions about it. If somebody is already willing to share then by all means, go right ahead =). I would like to know if the weapon disappears after the last charge.

Comment by Allakhazam

MY little twinker druid got this when he was at lvl 25.. now he lvl 29:P and i puted on this babe +25 agy.. The n00b shamans like me:P And I have not problems whitthe lvl29 twinker Tauren warrior's... Who need 3k HP.. if i can inject 3,5-4k DMG circa 1,5 min:P

DRUID POWA!

Comment by Allakhazam

This Weapon Is one badass horde owner. I first used the haste thing in a WSG as a lvl 35 druid and i 3 hit killed this lvl 39 twink rogue ... he actually tried to run away lol. I PWNED HIS ASS THEN KILLED ALL THE WITNESSES. It is a shame it only has 3 charges. It is like a disposable camera, i just get a new 1. As a feral druid i just go in the back door, stealth past mobs. wait at lift, take out alarm, then continue to prowl past the following mobs. He is easy to take out and it only takes me about 30 mins to get a new 1. but that is only if i am about to do a raid and i want a few in my bag for pwning bosses if our tank dies. then i just dissenchant the old 1 on my alt and sell the stuff. the automatic pummeler saved my life and killed some witnesses.

Comment by Allakhazam

Just got this beautiful peice of mace yesterday, had 15 strength chanted to it today...my cat form will gain roughly 66 attack power from a single piece of equipment. AND the 3 charges of haste.

Best part? I'm a packrat with a high lvl chanting toon, mats for the enchant didn't cost me a dime.

Has anyone confirmed the use of the haste? One time use only?

Comment by Allakhazam

Works wonderfully with omen of clarity :D (druid talent weapon imbule) Proc's alot due to high speed

5 min run with a few steathed druids, mob is alone but still tough, prowl in, kill, leave instance, reset party/instance - rinse/repeat

Even with 1/3 drop rate, if you have 3 druids all wanting one thats 9-10 times in so shouldn't take more than an hour.

Mob is through back door, left at elevator.

P.S when charges run out go and get another, its not that difficult.

Comment by Allakhazam

it's really not that big of a deal that it's only three charges, considering it's a relatively fast mace to begin with. 2.00 seconds on a 2-hander is nuts. so really, the 50% increase would be if you're in an emergency, and i'm not so reckless to get into that many emergencies =P

Comment by Allakhazam

Is there any way to recharge it?

Comment by Allakhazam

I got it when I was lvl 27 and now I'm lvl 28...can't w8 till I can use it xD

Comment by Allakhazam

i used a charge once then i logged on bout 2 weeks l8r n it was at 3 charges again.....

Comment by Allakhazam

Im confused, can the charges be used again, any way to recharge, because if i get this i dont want it to be only useable once!

Comment by Allakhazam

Musthave item for every shaman respeccing to enhancement. OMW to get one for my lvl 60 shaman now. Wep skilling with TUF is a #$%^& :X

Comment by Allakhazam

Most 'use' items are on a 30 min timer - this is too.

Comment by Allakhazam

3 charges makes baby jesus cry =(

Comment by Allakhazam

This is a good druid mace until u get mograines might (SM mace)...
Its really cool looking on taurens, i killed CP when i was 34.
Tactic : Buff urself with regrwoth and rejuvanation and start the imba DPS that druids do, when you get low on hp either use a health pot or go out of form and use war stomp (if u are tauren like me ^^) regrowth and rejuvanation urself, and just repeat until he is dead..

Hope it helps =)

Comment by GhostGhost

I've been farming these on my 47 druid,

Enter through workshop head left through locked door down the ramp.
Head left past the room of mobs and in the next room you will find the boss that drops this.
After you kill him log off and have someone reset the instance.

It's settled down to 35% drop chance for me but after 10 runs I had 6 thinking it was 60% for that whole time.
Rip.

2min 20seconds per run.

Items/ Things to help with this.
Enchant Boots - Minor Speed
Dash
Skull of Impending Doom
Nifty Stopwatch
Swift Boots
Gnomish Rocket Boots

Feel free to add to the list.

Comment by MatadorMedia

While farming these, you will develop a deep seeded hatred for Gnomebot Operating Boots.

Comment by Pzypro

Farming these things is terrible - by far the worst thing about optimizing druid dps..I can't justify using more than 1 CHARGE (not weapon) per boss and that's on a good day not counting wipes or *gulp* progression. On easier bosses I'm inclined to not use it at all because it's just a waste. Doing less dps certainly sucks but the time and tedium required is just not worth it.

Assuming the listed droprate of 33% is correct - and most times it feels less than that - you're going to average out to 1.65 MCP per 5 runs (5 charges) so basically per hour since you can't do anything else really during the rest of the ~40minute time..Most of my runs are under 3 minutes so I can do a set in about 15 and then log off.

I've seen a lot of people say you tend to get 2-3 per set of 5. Those people are either amazingly lucky or simply biased remembering. You get 1-2 per set and getting 2 is lucky. I've had more sets where I got zero.than sets where I got 3.

Thankfully, with better AQ+ weapons coming out, the gap between using and not using the pummelers is only going to get smaller and smaller though I think that MCP is still technically BIS for all of classic.Ideal cat DPS would have 100% uptime on these (and a myriad other consumables) and that's just insane.

Comment by Lotimar

Does it effect energy regeneration rate, like haste, or just white damage?
For a bear, white damage is great for both rage generation and maul rate. but for a cat it's only part of the damage.

Comment by Wimbleton

Anybody know what the second-best Feral weapon is?

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Manual Crowd Pummeler

	Phase 1

Item Level 34
Binds when picked up

Two-Hand	Mace

46 - 70 Damage	Speed 2.00

(29.00 damage per second)
+16 Strength
+5 Agility
Durability 100 / 100

Requires Level 28
Use: Increases your haste rating by 500 for 30 sec.
3 Charges

Sell Price: 95 64

Manual Crowd Pummeler

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