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Commentaire de Maximelene

Le DPS de cette arme est particulièrement élevé pour compenser les flèches. En retirant le dps qu'auraient apporté des flèches, il arrive à un trés bon DPS, mais pas si énorme que ça :p

Et les flèches qu'il tire sont bleues fluo, visibles de trés loin. Pas forcément génial en PvP, c'est trés voyant ^^

Commentaire de 155653

Sachant que le meilleur arc avant Thori'dal est l'arc doré de Quel Danas, qui se loot sur les Twins éredars a sunwell (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/fr/item=34196), je ne vois pas comment on peut dire que son dps n'est pas si enorme que ca.
A moins que ce soit un "joke".

Arc doré : 97.3 DPS + flèches Temporelles a 53 dps soit 150.3 dps.
Thory'dal : 162.8 dps. (impossibilité de le combiner avec des flèches normales)

Le dps est donc meilleur, de plus :
- Sachant que le tir assuré fait des dégâts en fonction de ceux de base de l'arme et non des flèches, les dégâts de ce tir sont donc accrus, ainsi que le dps du chasseur.

Les autres statistiques :

Le bonus de 17 en agilité, cumulé au + 16 au score de coup critique, au +34 PA et a l'ignore armure, en font l'arc ayant le plus de "stat".
C'est vraiment une arme bien développée dans ce sens.

Certains regretteront peut être sa vitesse de 2.70 qui avec le stuff "Hâte" de sunwell va peut etre nous poser problème au niveau de notre cycle dps. (surtout pour les spé bête justement )

Les pe%^&* bonus qui vont avec :

L'augmentation de la vitesse de tir de 15 % et la création de ses propres munitions, permet de pouvoir s'équiper d'un nouveau sac d'inventaire a la place du carquois, sans pour autant perdre le bonus de vitesse que nous apportaient nos carquois. Et enfin, chose tres appréciée, le chasseur n'aura plus a payer 50 PO de flèches par soirée de raid (en plus de ces réparations), ni ces munitions pour aller "farmer".

(Je n'ai d'ailleurs jamais bien compris pourquoi le Hunter était la seule classe a devoir payer pour farmer -_- )

Commentaire de 155743

Le même en version française intégrale :

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9656/thoridalax6.jpg

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Commentaire de Beska

Evidently (since it's not on any currently killable boss' loot table, including the penultimate boss), it drops from Kil'jaeden, the last boss in the Sunwell Plateau. Other weapons suggested to drop from him include:
Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury,
Apolyon, the Soul-render,
Golden Staff of the Sin'dorei,
Sunflare
Crux of the Apocalypse.

Commentaire de Corbon

Actually this bow should have the class restriction Hunter on it, but then it might not find its way into the raid, if there's no Hunter present at the kill. Interestingly, it's listed as "disenchantable", but that might be an error.

It's also safe to assume that any equipment with an item level of 164 drops from Kil'Jaeden.

Edit: Well technically https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=34196 has crit (in form of agi), atp and armor pen as well.

Commentaire de 52332

My first question was why, with the massive amount of Gamers playing hunters, hasn't a legendary bow dropped sooner.

However upon examination i guess it is lore. The other legendaries make sense, each one has lore behind it, a story explaining what makes it so special, and for a long time there were no real opportunities to Introduce a legendary bow.

It makes sense that The Blood elves would have such a bow as while many races have hunters, the blood elves are famous for having Ranger Lords.

On a side note, it would be nice to see more legendary and epic items effect the game in different ways. Much like the epic sword Ashbringer did. It would be a nice touch if while wearing this bow you got a more positive or simply different response from the Blood elves in Silvermoon

Commentaire de HolgerDK

Hmmm - doesnt the 2.7 speed make it very very very good for BM hunters?

Commentaire de 144671

I think the of lill87's post was making fun of all the people calling "Hunter weapon!" on an item that benefits other classes either just as well or more than hunters.

That being said, while any melee who takes this over a hunter should be shot, it is a GREAT stat stick ;)

Commentaire de 109210

Allerias Bow??

Commentaire de 97145

Finally, hunters get a legendary, and it's quite the legendary weapon indeed, the lore hasn't been released, so I'm just going to swoon over it's stats.

It's a 2.7 speed bow, which is an amazing speed for BM hunters using a 1:1 shot rotation, with some room to add a bit of haste and of course, improved Aspect of the Hawk. The additional stats are AMAZING, the agility, attack power, crit rating and armor ignore are incredible.

The biggest thing that makes this bow revolutionary is the fact it doesn't use ammo. Alot of people (obviously not theory-crafters), have asserted that the loss of 53dps ammo makes it a little less incredible. They are completely wrong. Steady shot damage is unaffected by ammunition, thereby not gaining the 53 dps boost auto-shot gained. While it was speculated Blizzard might change the formula to include ammunition to the damage somehow, this bow clearly predates that possible change. This bow will make steadyshot the grand majority of a hunter's DPS, and with bonuses from the T6 4-set bonus, where steadyshot damage is increased by 10%, this bow is going to make a huge difference. This bow is clearly above the rest, if you were to take any other bow and add 53 dps and remove the ammo requirement, it would have an incredible DPS boost already, but this bow does it with clearly superior stats. It basically adds 53 dps to steady shot damage on an incredibly buff bow. I expect to see hunter's DPS above Warlocks and Rogues regularly with this bow.

That this bow frees up a bag slot is the absolute smallest of it's advantages. I cannot say enough good things about this bow. It is simply incredible.
Thank you Blizzard. <3

Commentaire de Dranoel

Whereas there's been no official statement on the lore, you can do the research yourself, to some extent. Partial speculation, but it makes a lot of sense, and gave me an insight into what to expect the bow to be before it was named and released. Sunstrider's Longbow, once having belonged to Dath'Remar Sunstrider, handed down to Sylvannas Windrunner when she was the Ranger-General, last to defend The Sunwell. Theoretical, but along with

This ancient elven artifact is a flaming composite longbow. The arrows it shoots are automatically imbued as though they were flaming ammunition.

It makes sense to consider the Legendary Bow the very same, left in the ruins of the Sunwell after Sylvannas defeat and fall to the Lich King.

How it reached Kil'jaeden is another matter, either Arthas left it there or one of the now-inhabiting Demons brought it to him. One could consider after he established his foothold in Azeroth, he would work to enslave Sylvannas and her Forsaken again, taunting her with the heirloom as a gift of fealty and power.

It at least sounds more right and legendary than the level 1 trash item model she has in Undercity, or saying a powerful relic that had caused Arthas so much trouble in her hands was just left by her corpse for her banshee to recollect.

Commentaire de Miyari

Hi, I would appreciate it if users would please stop spamming this page with useless and non-constructive comments. It does no good to make comments accusing people of downrating comments with alts (it doesn't happen as much as you think), what you're probably seeing is an overactive moderation community on what is a considerably "hot" item. If you're viewing this page and are confused as to why your comment may have been downrated, you might want to review the Commenting FAQ.

But here, I'll combine all of the thoughts into one post so I can save you guys the downrating drama:

Yes it's a hunter weapon, no it doesn't use ammo, yes it's very powerful, yes you'll probably replace it at some point in Wrath of the Lich King, yes it's the highest dps bow in the game, yes it probably hits pretty very hard, qq your can't use it (although, note, it has no Hunter-only specification), no Blizzard isn't biased to hunters (there have been quite a few legendaries in the game prior that can't be used by hunters), I'm sorry you don't think Kil'jaeden is a bad enough dude lore-wise to drop a legendary, and it probably doesn't have a ridiculously high drop rate (maybe comparable to Warglaives).

Okay?

Commentaire de 76724

The first is dropped to Stefang, member of the Last Resort (EU-Boulderfist) guild.

Commentaire de 72359

Second legendary (lets count the Glaives as one Legendary) that has no Quest you have to do, to obtain the Item.

Legendaries in WoW:

Pre-BC Legendaries (Quest-Item)

BC Legendaries (Drop from Bosses)

Commentaire de 158898

That's not true since steady shot ignores ammunition dps. For white damage the dps it's 109 but for steady shot and other skills that don't take into consideration DPS of ammu the bow's dps it's 162.

Commentaire de 148759

Finally some BM hunter love.
I was getting sick of the 3.00 weapons. Crossbow of Relentless Strikes
was a nice upgrade from 3.00 but this, this is godly.
Well here are the advantages over you average Marksmanship bow.

1. 2.70 speed. with Imp Aspect of the Hawk up (which shouldn't be hard because of the speed) and Serpent's Swiftness, you are already nearly at 2.00 speed, the optimal speed for a 1:1 Steady Shot rotation. All you need is one haste gear and presto 2.00 speed.

2. Does not use ammo. Bag space saved, nuf said.

3. Because it doesn't use ammo, Blizz added lot's of DPS to make up for the -51 DPS. All of that juicy DPS applies to your SS damage, unlike the ammo bonus. This is heavenly for maximum SS DPS

4. And last but not least, this bow offers a straight up DPS boost from any other bow, even subtracting for the loss of ammo.

All in all thank you Blizzard!

Commentaire de 165470

Since one of the drops is Coif of Alleria: www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=34333

It would suggest that there was some sort of meeting/confrontation with Alleria Windrunner and Kil'Jaeden/Sunwell Plateau.

And so the bow could be/was Alleria's bow.

Also Coif Of Alleria is a hunter item ^^ (or enhancement shaman)

Commentaire de henkoz

Arís on Sylvanas EU has also got the bow, if any cares ^^

Commentaire de 165932

Btw this bow is actually called Holyarrow in Bloodelf language.

Me and 2 friends once had a 3v3 team by this name. My bloodelf friend simply said Holyarrow while having his own language turned on and what came out was Thori'dal. I was quite impressed when i found this bow with my name on it xD

Commentaire de kevinno

A rogue or warrior using this would be shot to death by thier guildmates.
You get the glaives, we will take this, thank you.
End of story.

Commentaire de 159313

There will be no cake for you.

Look at the AQ opening quest line. There's a Legendary mount Quest Reward.

Black Qiraji Resonating Crystal (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=21176)

Commentaire de 112826

warglaives and thori'dal. wheres the caster love? =)

Commentaire de Keishidu

You forgot the 15% speed increase that the bow gives to its self since its not added into the base items speed before hand

Commentaire de 174651

Why don't you guys get that this bow sucks. It has slightly higher dps than the other bows except for the fact that you don't get anything out of a quiver (which gives a speed bonus) and you lose over 50 dps from not having any arrows. 50 dps and a speed increase is worth spending a little bit of money.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5623/wowscrnshot060908ledbownc2.jpg

Good for Rogues as well

Edited, Jun 9th 2008 6:24am by RaidenWoW

Commentaire de Allakhazam

this would be good on a rogue, there no doubt about it. but considering the odds of a hunter being in the raid group for this bow are practiacally certain, it is incredibly unlikely youll be allowed to need on it.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Totally a rogue weapon. Agi, attack power, ignore armor, and they were even nice to make it it's own quiver so that you can still hold all your poisons and flash powders without wasting space.

That's for all you slags hooting "Hunter Weapon" all these years.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

This bow is teh r0xors big 11111! One day when i will be old i wnat this longbow :)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

nobody has killed kil'jaeden yet. Many guilds are doing attempts, but as far as i know, as of 05/23/08 he has NOT been killed yet.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Nice to see Kil'Jaeden has been pwned ... even if it was by Horde. :)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

In that picture u can see a tauren SHAMAN! ... they can not wear bows at all ...rofl pmlao ... but still they got it on a private server so GG :)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Also it has such high DPS , because it doesn't uses arrows and with the high DPS it makes up for the lost DPS from the arrows :)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

For all of you asking why it has the insane amount of dps, it is beacause the bow "makes" its own arrows, therefore you can remove the arrow/bullet dps from the Timeless arrow/Shell (which I assume every hunter raiding Sunwell is using), making it a 95,8 dps bow. Even if the DPS isnt anything special (without ammunition) the steady shots will be insane thanks to the high base damage.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

is this one of the bows u have to be lvl 70 to get and if so where cause im on my way to 70

Kazurumiko - Level 67 Orc hunter Blades edge server

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Last Resort killed Kil'jaeden for the first time tonight and they were lucky enough to drop Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury ! The bow went to Stefang, congratulations to him and to the whole guild for their kill.

You can also check the video of Thori'dal we posted a while ago.

Video of Thori'dal in action.

Last Resort website.

#lr.wow on irc.quakenet.org

FROM http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php

Commentaire de Thottbot

"HUNTER WEAPON!"

Seriously, I would be pretty mad to see a rogue or warrior with this. That's probably the exact reason why they'll roll on it.

I think Blizzard should put a class restriction on it like they did with the Warglaives of Azzinoth. It really should only be available to hunters.

Commentaire de Thottbot

i agree totally for hunter and i am sure not many rouge or warriors will get this since only end game guilds will see this drop and stupid people dont get into end game guilds still imagine a rouge duel wielding legendary swords and having this as their bow that would be beyond elite status

Commentaire de Thottbot

some people are wrong here already so ill list it with points:

1. This bow drops from kil'jaeden the last boss in the sunwell, no its not restricted to only the sunwell, unlike those from kaelthas.

2. there is already someone in the game with it, theyre on the european server and they were the 6th guild to kill kil'jaeden.

3. yes it is a hunter weapon and yes the first one went to a huner.

4. this bow makes ITS OWN arrows, yes its own, so no you dont need an arrow bag or any type of arrows, it will make its own magic ones.

5. chances of getting this are slim unfortunantly because as of this date only one person in the world actually has it, and i dont see hundreds more getting it.

6. yes it is that good, and yes it is more powerfull than most other weapons, no there isnt a catch, not like the weapons for kaelthas, this one stays with you, only one person in your raid gets it and it has a rediculously low drop rate.

7. if anyone is curious to see how it works check this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=48ZwjvtM_X0

Commentaire de Thottbot

You dont lose the 15%...its in an equip bonus on the bow :)

This weapon will probably last for a very long time, and VERY VERY VERY good hunter weapon :)

Get your bow skill up?

Looking at this item i'd say its better than any other bow:

1. Has its own arrows

2. Has the Quiver/pouch effect

3. The DPS is added from the arrows...so i'd say its alone damage would be around 110 dps if it did not have that effect, making it pretty close to normal bow strength.

4. Basically just saves the cost of buying millions of arrows :)

Commentaire de Thottbot

By the way...Warriors...rogues...

Please dont roll on this ^-^

Commentaire de Thottbot

u got this eh? thats interesting considering only 1 has dropped, and it is widely known to be a hunter from Last Resort guild. lolllllll way to bs

Commentaire de Thottbot

this is what the bow looks like in game prity cool

http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/thoridal2.jpg

shadowfang

Commentaire de Thottbot

Just want to know, what was the name of the hunter who got this item ?

Commentaire de Thottbot

Well, just so it's said, Nihilum hunter Ahoq has this bow too ^^

Commentaire de Thottbot

The biggest thing that makes this bow revolutionary is the fact it doesn't use ammo. Alot of people (obviously not theory-crafters), have asserted that the loss of 53dps ammo makes it a little less incredible. They are completely wrong. Steady shot damage is unaffected by ammunition, thereby not gaining the 53 dps boost auto-shot gained. While it was speculated Blizzard might change the formula to include ammunition to the damage somehow, this bow clearly predates that possible change. This bow will make steadyshot the grand majority of a hunter's DPS, and with bonuses from the T6 4-set bonus, where steadyshot damage is increased by 10%, this bow is going to make a huge difference. This bow is clearly above the rest, if you were to take any other bow and add 53 dps and remove the ammo requirement, it would have an incredible DPS boost already, but this bow does it with clearly superior stats. It basically adds 53 dps to shot damage to an incredibly buff bow. I expect to see hunter's DPS above Warlocks and Rogues regularly with this bow.

Commentaire de Thottbot

HUNTER WEP....

Wait, IT REALLY IS!

Commentaire de Thottbot

what kinda idiot warrior would have a quiver? waste of bag space and no u dont need the 15speed

Commentaire de Thottbot

This is a hunter only weapon and should stay that way it would be a total waste for a warrior or rouge to get. You would have to be some sort of ninja/Rtard to think otherwise.......I would like to have this weapon someday before the expansion so it wont be a piece of @#$% compared to a green lvl 72 weapon.#$%^ing sux that my account was banned....i just got to lvl 68 "%^&*ing blizzard"I spent forever getting that high of lvl then that WTF.Oh well i'll restart a new account and be 70 before expansion i hope,probably be better off to get pvp gear if i have time... (>O_o)>

Commentaire de Thottbot

OMG HUNTER WEAPON HUNTER WEAPON HUNTER WEAPON HUNTER WEAPON HUNTER WEAPON HUNTER WEAPON!

sorry i couldn't help myself when i could actually say that in a accurate setting

Commentaire de Thottbot

thats like saying hunter can use hte spell dag or heal staff or swrod ... really .. and the excuse is dag and heal staff would have arcane dmge for there arcane shot and the sword just had nice stats... really think it threw and also if ur a war or rogue would u choose this bow over a sword or dag just cuase u wanna tick some hunters off? also this is very helpful to hunter this saves hunter butloads of money and bag space

Commentaire de Thottbot

oh it's just perfect, a perfect hunter item that everyone else can take from them. "Thori'dal, the Warrior's Revenge"

Commentaire de Thottbot

for people who are begging other classes not to roll on this bow just stop and think: the people who swear revenge against other classes and ninja crap ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT INTO GUILDS THAT CAN KILL KIL'JAEDEN. People in such succesful guilds will never roll for this unless a hunter isn't present. this isn't some Pug (duh) where you can get some nub who ninjas,it takes quite a reputation with the guild to get into the select 25, ninjaing and flaming the hunter class won't get you a spot. So stop your worrying and just try to get lucky getting the bow (if you are even in Sunwell PLat)

Commentaire de Thottbot

Here you can track who got this item: http://www.wowprogress.com/item/34334_Thori%27dal%2C+the+Stars%27+Fury

Commentaire de Thottbot

i wish i could have this bow on my hunter..

Commentaire de Thottbot

im saying that since warriors and rogues get the glaives they should b set with wat they got and i agree with the other guy who said that there r a select few who deserve it and if a warrior tries to ninja it they must b greedy as hell or they just have no respect for those who actually use bows instead of getin up and fighting but rogues and warriors work their buts off too so if there ever is an instance where there is no hunter then it should go to the warriors or rogues

p.s : i have a hunter rogue and warrior so i cant b biased

Commentaire de Thottbot

i wanna see a warrior/rogue withboth glaives and this lol

Commentaire de Thottbot

What is the drop rate on this?

Commentaire de Pomodorosan

Why does this have 59 Armor

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Thori'dal, la Fureur des étoiles

	Phase 5

Niveau d'objet 164
Lié quand ramassé
Unique

À distance	Arc

Dégâts : 356 - 524	Vitesse 2.70

(162.96 dégâts par seconde)
+17 Agilité
Durabilité 110 / 110

Niveau 70 requis
Équipé : Augmente de 16 le score de coup critique.
Équipé : Augmente de 34 la puissance d'attaque.
Équipé : Vos attaques ignorent 112 points de l'armure de votre adversaire.
Équipé : Augmente la vitesse des attaques à distance de 15%. Ne se cumule pas avec les effets de hâte liés aux carquois ou aux gibernes.
Équipé : Thori'dal génère des flèches magiques quand la corde de l'arc est tirée. N'utilise pas de munitions.
"L'energie du Puits de soleil parcourt Thori'dal."

Prix de Vente: 18 29 30

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