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Commentaire de MasterLoco

Untill correct item stats are uploaded on wowhead here is where you can see the stats for the new set:
http://www.blackravens.net/wp-content/uploads/arena2-pld-dps.jpg

This is the Tier 2 arena spelldmg set for paladins.

Obtaining the entire set will cost you 8250 arena points atm. These prices will probably be lowered when they implement Tier 3 arena sets in game just like they did with the Tier 1 items when Tier 2 was released. But that's still far away :-).

Commentaire de 15507

The new pally sets look like the dungeon tier 5 but with a golden hue

Commentaire de starshot

heres a link to pic of set on PTR server
www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/june/a2_paladin.jpg

Commentaire de 11277

Compared to the season 1 Aegis set, we get these improvements:

Armor: +639
Stamina: +30
Intellect: +14
Healing / Damage done: +27
Resilience rating: +14
Spell crit rating: +12

As a side note, item cost for Season 1 gear and sets will be lowered by 15%.

Commentaire de Hyperstalker

Cost for the set:
Helmet - 1630
Chest - 1630
Legs - 1630
Shoulders - 1304
Gloves - 978

Total = 7172

Commentaire de 16310

This is the best pally set IMHO. You lose 50% of the healing bonuses compared to the ornamented set, but you will still be a great healer in this set. Especially when playing 2v2, it is very nice to be able to finish off some with JoR/Holy shock. When tanking lower-lvl instances, it is perfectly viable to use some pieces from this set, for the stamina and spelldamage.

All in all, this set will benefit most paladins, except those focusing solely on attack power.

Commentaire de 38027

Current (a/o 7/25/07) screenshot is of arena season 1, not arena season 2.

Commentaire de carnalis

season 1 :
Chest - 1630
Gauntlets - 978
Helm - 1630
Legguards - 1630
Shoulders - 1304

set - 7172

season 2 :
Chestguard - 1875
Gloves - 1125
Headcover - 1875
Legplates - 1875
Spaulders - 1500

set - 8250

difference - 1078 (approx. 3 weeks with a "normal" team)

Commentaire de 75353

anyone else ever use http://www.yehforgames.com/wow/arena/Paladin.htm to get this Paladin arena gear? my guildmates used them and were pretty happy but i'm still doing some extra research on whether its worth it or not..any feedback is appreciated. thanks.

Commentaire de 38556

The change to healing/spelldamage has made this set a more questionable choice.

Essentially, if you compare this and the healing set, the healing set has about 30% less spelldamage and 2x the healing, as well as slightly more int and slightly less STA.

It's hard to argue for anyone to get this set at this point, IMO, even if you're PvPing to fill slots on a prot pally.

Commentaire de Winterstrife

Total cost for the entire set in patch 2.4 (when S4 starts) would be:
65,500 Honor
50 AB Marks of Honor
50 AV Marks of Honor
30 WSG Marks of Honor

S1 would be removed and this will replace S1 to be purchasable with honor points.

Commentaire de Eihrister

Despite this being mainly a Shockadin set, it's an awesome set for a Tankadin that's regularly boosting players through lower level instances, as well as great replacement gear for when you just hit 70; the stamina, armor and resilience make up for a lot (ofcourse, you can stack defense gems in, but keep in mind that none of this can replace defense; if you have enough, these can help with dots at bosses like the bear boss in ZA).

Commentaire de Thottbot

this set is kinda useless, a pally shouldn't "tank" in arena PvP, and its no good in Raids, cuz it has no defense, unless of course you can squeeze in the 490 defense from your other gear

Commentaire de Thottbot

umm of course a pallywouldnt tank in arena

look closely this set is tuned for shockadins

Commentaire de Thottbot

I've never tried the shockadin build, i suppose this would work for it. I labelled it "General Paladin" as it's more a balance between the heal-oriented Holy set and the physical damage oriented Retribution set.

But thinking about it, Shockadin seems right.

Commentaire de Thottbot

what the hell is a shockadin?

Commentaire de Thottbot

yeah shockadin ftw here here!

Commentaire de Thottbot

<<< Tankadin, but this is useless. You'll need to stack shield block rating off nearly all your gear to become uncrushable, and to become uncrushable AND crit capped as a paladin is very hard because Holy Shield is only 30% so you really need to stack the Shield Block Rating. 490 Defense isn't that hard though. You'll probably need a hell of a lot of epics to get both as a Paladin.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Here is something that tanks should find interesting.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Defense
As this link states... Mobs in PvE have only a 5% chance to crit, and this 5% chance to crit can be reduced with resilience or a full 490 defense rating without any resilience gear. As you have probly found out by now, resilience does a good job reducing that 5% crit chance quickly. As for Feral druids, they need only 2% more crit reduction thanks to their talents; so as for a feral druid, getting resilience may very well be a wise choice.

Looking at this set, I see that is has a very interesting possibility of indeed being used for tanking as long as you have the avoidance gear to make up for it, which can also be gotten from gems such as +8 dodge or +8 parry. Not to mention some good +block gear for Paladins especially.

ALSO, Resilience does not improve your chances of avoiding crushing blows, but then again, neither does defense after the 350 mark... So as for those Crushing blows, go for more +dodge.

Hope this helps out and I'd like to see if anyone can put this set to good use.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I personally would like to see a better passive ability for the Gloves in this set. Seeing as how this is an offensive/support arena set I have a few ideas on how to change the useless +2 crit for FoL passive:

1) Equip: Increases the range on your Judgement spell by 5 yards.
or
2) Equip: Increases the critical chance of all Judgements capable of criting by 2%.
or
3) Equip: Increases the critical strike damage of all Judgements capable of criting by 5%.

Either of these changes would do this set justice because if any pally takes this set it would be because they want to do damage and not just solely stick to the support role.
Although I am for a pallys general obligation to support his teammates simply because of the fact that he can buff and heal I do NOT agree with the sit and healbot role that pallys have been forced into, and am glad to see that Blizz has at least acknowledged the fact that pallys want to do more.
The paladin class has a lot of potential in the "shockadin" spec and playstyle and can be a deadly force if geared right.

Commentaire de Thottbot

My paladin has 834 spell damage unbuffed and is holy spec, I make a great healer (with healing gear obv) in pve raids and in pvp i wear spell damage gear (3 parts of this set so far) and all i can say is that SHOCKADIN is an incredible build, Im kinda shocked that i never see any other shockadins, always this 'holy healer' type and %^&*!@ribution spec pallies, who, by the way, get pwned in seconds by a shockadin.

shockadin ftw.

end of.

Commentaire de Thottbot

what good is 900 healing compared do the damage you can inflict with 900 spell dmg?

I barely heal in pvp with my paladin, too busy owning alliance with 3k crits.

Commentaire de Thottbot

what kind of boots does this set go with ?

without the total look the set looks stupid
but it is a great set for a pally

Commentaire de Thottbot

Veterans Lamellar Boots, thats what I use for my paladin along with this set.

check my gear on eu armoury 'defilade' is my paladin's name, on Outland EU.

check that to see how a shockadin should be.

Commentaire de Thottbot

This set my friend...*sigh*, how can you not see that it's meant for ret build?
wait wait wha? lol, not melee with bunch of AP and str etc, but Judgement build!
damn right, JUDGEMENT! Unleash the damn seal.
Shockadin..? yeah ok np, if you're Holy, but if you're Ret, you get +15% spell crit from talent, + another 3% from talent also.
You can have around 25% - 30% spell crit with gears, and imagine that if you're specced for RetJudgement, another 18% spell crit. How much you have now? do the math yourself

All I can say, I love seing my JoC crits for 2.5-3k.
kthxbai

Commentaire de Thottbot

oh I forgot to mention something else about RetJudgement pallies, it's alot less mana than Holy shock and you can cast it every 8 sec instead of 15 damn secs. ty

Commentaire de Thottbot

candlelightz wtf are you on?

with holy shock spec you can cast HOLY SHOCK every 15 seconds as well as IMPROVED JUDGEMENT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS every 8 seconds, if you spec for it.

those 2 attacks are better than a single judgement of command....you must be stupid to even suggest such a thing.

Commentaire de Thottbot

....AND holy spec gives you #$%^loads more mana. so shut up again :p

Commentaire de Thottbot

hey whats the best spec for a shockadin? leaning towards holy, but not sure. pst!

Commentaire de Thottbot

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Commentaire de Thottbot

For those of you who do not know (which seems like most of you), this set was originally made by blizzard for protection specced paladins because they believed that a prot specced paladin could pvp.
Note: Aeigis by definition means 'protection' or 'armor'.

This doesn't mean that blizzard thought a pvp prot paladin could actually hold the opposing arena team's aggro and actually 'tank' them like you would on pve mobs etc. This gear was meant for use by protection paladins in pvp only, the gear isn't suitable to tank with in pve because it has no defense rating or shield block rating etc.

Instead it was thought that a pvp prot paladin could actually put out decent dps with attacks like avenger's shield and consecration (both of these talents are spell damage which is why the gear has spell dmg and crit), whilst being able to withstand a good beating with their talents in the protection tree.

However, blizzard was wrong, most protection specced characters infact are extremely bad at pvp. So people instead use this set for shockadin specced paladins. This set was never made specifically for shockadins because it doesn't have its own talent tree, therefore it is not recognised by blizzard as a real spec.

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