Is it expensive то play wow ?

Publication par Monday

I was Saying the chronological order before the expansions get merged.....

Which is entirely irrelevant.

Publication par Baptisten

Answering in the topics question from my point of view:

No, I would pay the double amount. To me, this is very cheap hobby.

I live in Sweden though and we have it pretty good here. I didn't know you had it so rough in Bulgaria and I feel sorry for you:(

Publication par ElhonnaDS

Is it expensive to play baseball?

I know people who go out and play at the park. They have had the same bat and glove since high school, which might have cost them $50-60 bucks at the time collectively, and they've gotten 10 years of play out of them. They might occasionally have to replace a ball that goes over a fence or ends up in the duck pond. Once in a while someone loses a pair of old jeans because the grass stains get excessive, or they tear on a slide. It takes a couple of dollars worth of gas to get to the park.

There are other people who play, who replace their expensive baseball bat with a new expensive baseball bat every time someone comes out with a new one that's made of some new alloy, has some supposedly advantageous air pocket, or gel handgrip, or graphite core brought back from the lunar landing or whatever. They have an assortment of oils squeezed from rare plants from the depths of the amazon to oil their glove crafted from the hide of the first calf born on the 13th day of the second month after an eclipse. They buy baseballs that have been tested at speeds in excess of 900 miles an hour for durability. They join leagues with monthly and yearly fees, pay out of pocket to travel across the county or state to play against other similarly geared teams. They pay for lessons from professionals, or to go to "baseball camp" to get a better curve ball or a more accurate line drive.

Both of those people play baseball. One spends a modest amount, has a lot of fun, treats it as a hobby and only invests as much money as he needs to to keep playing at all. It's not expensive to play baseball like this.

The other spends a fortune, has a lot of fun, treats it as a hobby that they wish was a career, and will invest in everything that they believe will make them even the tiniest bit better, flashier or more impressive. It's really expensive to play baseball like this.

Someone who wants to pay the bare minimum in wow plays the starter edition to level 20 for free. Then at 20 he gets the battle chest for 5 bucks when it's on sale (which happens like twice a year). When they get to the point where they need MoP, they buy that for 10-20 bucks when it's on sale (which also happens twice a year). They play on the same computer they have had for the last 5 years, with the graphics turned down, and pay their $15 a month. If they want another 90 they level it. If they want a cool mount, they grind for it. If they want one of the vanity items from TCG, they earn the gold and wait until it's on the BMAH or the AH and buy it that way. Wow costs them 25 bucks to start, stretched out over their leveling process, and then an additional $15 a month for the rest of their playing career. When an expansion comes out, they can buy it right away, or they can wait til it goes on sale- either way, they get the same game. But even new that's a single investment of like $40 every two years or so on top of the $15 a month. That's a pretty cheap hobby.

Someone who wants the super-ultimate maximum experience upgrades to a new gaming rig every year or two when there's an advance in hard drive, or processors, or graphics cards they want. They keep a separate laptop so no matter where they have to go, they can play. They get business class internet for their apartment so they can have the optimal latency. They buy a WoW licensed keyboard, mouse, gamer-specific mouse pad, invest in performance-enhancing wrist braces, and pay for every guide that comes out so they aren't missing any tips. They buy every digital mount and pet right away from the pet store, invest thousands to get every loot card from the trading game, and will buy new copies to set up a new account every time there is a new RAF mount. They will pay blizzard to change races every time the re-balance racial abilities, pay for faction/server transfers every time they find a more progressed guild to join. There is a rumor that the prince of a small nation pays a raid team of 24 other players a salary to carry him to heroic kills and loot.

You can make almost any hobby as expensive as you'd like it to be, depending how over the top you want to be with it. There are gold plated pez dispensers, diamond studded chess sets, and platinum harmonicas. But the ability to do that doesn't make the base hobby an expensive one, anymore than the existence of the Lamborghini makes the Dodge Neon a luxury car.

There are some hobbies that by their nature have to be expensive- yacht collecting, bengal tiger breeding, collecting gold-plated monster-truck tires, etc. But at a base cost, WoW is one off the cheaper hobbies. And when you factor in the number of hours the average player tends to spend in a week, and figure out the cost per hour, it's one of the cheapest hobbies there is if you do the bare minimum.

On a side note, factoring the cost of your computer into the cost of playing wow is like factoring the cost of your house into the cost of having a birthday party for your kid. That party did not cost you $349,700 because you threw it in your $349,000 house. It cost you $700 in a house you were going to have had regardless of whether you threw the party or not. Wow does not cost you $1200 to start because you play it on an $1150 computer- you're playing it on a computer you were going to have regardless of whether or not you played wow.

While there are a number of games that require more expensive rigs, with better graphics and processing speed than the average typing machine, that tends to be the overall cost of being a gamer. The price difference between that and a normal PC factors not into the cost of playing one game, but playing the 50 or so games that the person who owns a gaming rig will likely play on it before they have to scrap it for a new computer. And that doesn't even apply to wow, because most mid-grade computers that aren't more than a few years old have an on-board graphics card that can more than handle it. I played WoW for 4 years on a $400 e-machine (which I would have owned anyway, to check e-mail, write papers, design fliers, etc.), and could likely have replaced that with a new cheap machine if that was all I wanted was to play a game on a basic work computer.

So taking a step back, evaluate how much of your complaint is based on inflated or misinformed numbers, how much is your trying to tie in hardware costs for things you would still buy regardless of whether you played wow or not, and how disproportionate your insistence on having every single item and luxury upgrade available as part of the game be part of the base cost is compared to they way you evaluate the cost of eating out, playing baseball or any other activity with multiple cost levels.

When you trim away all the hyperbole, look at the hard numbers, and stop trying to bolster your case by claiming things like "you need electricity to play wow so therefor the cost of your entire electricity bill is clearly a direct result of it", you really don't have a leg to stand on.

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Publication par Maurvyn

^^
Proof that Lagomorphic Pancakes make excellent writers of arguments using baseball analogy.
Elegantly stated, El.

Publication par Rankkor

I missed your giant walls of awesomeness sis :P

They are a sight for sore eyes.

You can make almost any hobby as expensive as you'd like it to be, depending how over the top you want to be with it. But the ability to do that doesn't make the base hobby an expensive one, anymore than the existence of the Lamborghini makes every other vehicle a luxury car.

Quoted the most important part just in case he wanted to go all "meh, too long, didn't read"

Publication par ElhonnaDS

^^
Proof that Lagomorphic Pancakes make excellent writers of arguments using baseball analogy.
Elegantly stated, El.

http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=188984#p2684916
http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=188984.2/short-tale-of-stupidity#p2685120
http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=192743.3/what-i-find-hypocritic-about-bliz-right-now#p2788251

It's been kind of a hobby.

Is it expensive то play wow ?

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