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Makorr: Intersection (Q&A)
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Post by
Adamsm
We'll find out in the next day or so. Long as it doesn't go back to the original trees, I'll be fine...so many useless talents back then that you had to take to get the good #$%^.
Post by
Atik
Also, just wanted to mention this. Light and I were talking last night about how wierd this is going to get now that the group is all back together.
Me: Imagine throwing Locronos after Hyper...
Light: You mean throwing Al at Locronos?
Me: ... fair enough...
Post by
Behelich
Violently obsessive possessive, that's me.
Post by
Patty
But the passive tasties! And the mastery!
Mastery kind of annoyed the hell out of me...
I have to stack so much crap on my tank: Stam, Block, Parry, Dodge, Mastery, Hit, Expertise, Strength...
I really miss Defense rating...
You only have to stack Mastery, Dodge, Parry and Stam. Threat stats are nowhere near that significant.
Post by
Atik
But the passive tasties! And the mastery!
Mastery kind of annoyed the hell out of me...
I have to stack so much crap on my tank: Stam, Block, Parry, Dodge, Mastery, Hit, Expertise, Strength...
I really miss Defense rating...
You only have to stack Mastery, Dodge, Parry and Stam. Threat stats are nowhere near that significant.
Except when I miss every rend, devestate, victory rush, and shield slam without Expertise and Hit capped... And then Magmaw is eating the rest of the raid.
Post by
Behelich
But the passive tasties! And the mastery!
Mastery kind of annoyed the hell out of me...
I have to stack so much crap on my tank: Stam, Block, Parry, Dodge, Mastery, Hit, Expertise, Strength...
I really miss Defense rating...
You only have to stack Mastery, Dodge, Parry and Stam. Threat stats are nowhere near that significant.
Um, excuse me? Without being hit-capped and expertise-capped even the heroics will give you hell.
Post by
470415
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Post by
Atik
Wierd.
Without being hit capped, I miss bosses left and right. And my threat fails because of it.
Post by
Patty
But the passive tasties! And the mastery!
Mastery kind of annoyed the hell out of me...
I have to stack so much crap on my tank: Stam, Block, Parry, Dodge, Mastery, Hit, Expertise, Strength...
I really miss Defense rating...
You only have to stack Mastery, Dodge, Parry and Stam. Threat stats are nowhere near that significant.
Um, excuse me? Without being hit-capped and expertise-capped even the heroics will give you hell.Pretty much every guide I've read on wowhead and EJ has said that defensive stats > threat, and to reforge out of stats like hit in favour of more survivability. Through things like vengeance, tanks should be doing enough damage to keep threat anyway.
Post by
Monday
Expertise cap, but not hit?
What?
Then again, it depends on what tank. Death Knights still need a high amount of both, until the 4.3 changes where DthStr pops the blood shield every time you use it, and not when it hits.
Post by
Atik
But without being hit capped, I can't do ANY damage.
Post by
Behelich
Well that's weird.
Granted, I've quit the game mid-4.1, and back then threat stats were more important than defensive stats for my pally, on the grounds of him being almost unkillable.
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470415
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Post by
Behelich
Aight, I'm kinda confused. We're split in the North, right? Who's not in the medical tent?
Post by
Atik
Well, I'm a warrior tank. Speciffically, I put a lot of focus on AoE tanking, to make heroics go faster.
If I can't get rend off, I can't make use of Blood and Thunder. And I am just sitting there wasting GCDs trying to apply rend, or I am launching Thunderclap and only getting half the effect I need to hold threat.
Similiarly, one of our big things is shield block to shield slam for huge threat. If that shield slam misses, I am out a crapload of threat.
Post by
Patty
But without being hit capped, I can't do ANY damage.
Yes you can. Without staying alive, you can't do any damage. :P A couple of misses here or there aren't going to break you, and if you have trouble keeping threat with a normal defensive priority on your gear, that's indicative of a problem to do with either your rotation, your DPS, or some other factor. Hit and expertise caps are bonuses, but by no means
needed
to tank like high avoidance, health and mitigation are.
Post by
355559
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Post by
Atik
But without being hit capped, I can't do ANY damage.
Yes you can. Without staying alive, you can't do any damage. :P A couple of misses here or there aren't going to break you, and if you have trouble keeping threat with a normal defensive priority on your gear, that's indicative of a problem to do with either your rotation, your DPS, or some other factor.
It isn't just a couple of misses. I am talking like, every single thing I try to do missing short of my taunt.
EDIT: When did Silver leave the tent? I though she was bugging Ash...
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355559
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