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Post by
Stabhorn
If we do end up invading a legion world, I would rather do so with the races and people of azeroth, than the ones from draenor, but yeah, it'd be nice if we could rally the rest of draenor against the iron horde and the legion.
Honestly, why are we still on Draenor? Garrosh is dead. Kairoz is dead. And the Dark Portal has been destroyed. All we're doing now is wasting lives from our own Timeline, which will leave us weakened against our own Legion and Old Gods. So what's the point?
Post by
oneforthemoney
I remain convinced that Blizz introduced Warlords in order to provide a new world to explore as they lost interest in the stories and menaces Azeroth could handle on its own. As such, any future expansions will involve other continents on Draenor, and maybe alternate Azeroth.
Post by
Stabhorn
I remain convinced that Blizz introduced Warlords in order to provide a new world to explore as they lost interest in the stories and menaces Azeroth could handle on its own. As such, any future expansions will involve other continents on Draenor, and maybe alternate Azeroth.
I seriously hope not. That would be so stupid and lazy.
Post by
Rankkor
If we do end up invading a legion world, I would rather do so with the races and people of azeroth, than the ones from draenor, but yeah, it'd be nice if we could rally the rest of draenor against the iron horde and the legion.
Honestly, why are we still on Draenor? Garrosh is dead. Kairoz is dead. And the Dark Portal has been destroyed. All we're doing now is wasting lives from our own Timeline, which will leave us weakened against our own Legion and Old Gods. So what's the point?
We're still on draenor because while the dark portal is destroyed, the shard of time is still unaccounted for, and until we get it back, they can, given enough years, open another dark portal to invade our world. Its bad enough that we have to worry about the legion of OUR timeline, if we have to deal with TWO burning legions, its gonna be more than we can handle.
So yeah, our trek here is not over until we have that shard secured and AU!Draenor has no more access to MU!Azeroth.
Post by
oneforthemoney
I remain convinced that Blizz introduced Warlords in order to provide a new world to explore as they lost interest in the stories and menaces Azeroth could handle on its own. As such, any future expansions will involve other continents on Draenor, and maybe alternate Azeroth.
I seriously hope not. That would be so stupid and lazy.
I don't know. Aside from the naga and remaining old gods, there isn't much left for us on Azeroth. Not to mention we've drastically reduced their numbers after Cata, wiped out the Hammer, Black and Twilight flight, and killed most of the big names we'd know from the Old Gods. If Blizzard intends to keep doing expansions, they will need to branch out of Azeroth. We've pretty much bled the lore for enemies there dry.
Post by
Rankkor
I remain convinced that Blizz introduced Warlords in order to provide a new world to explore as they lost interest in the stories and menaces Azeroth could handle on its own. As such, any future expansions will involve other continents on Draenor, and maybe alternate Azeroth.
I seriously hope not. That would be so stupid and lazy.
I don't know. Aside from the naga and remaining old gods, there isn't much left for us on Azeroth. Not to mention we've drastically reduced their numbers after Cata, wiped out the Hammer, Black and Twilight flight, and killed most of the big names we'd know from the Old Gods. If Blizzard intends to keep doing expansions, they will need to branch out of Azeroth. We've pretty much bled the lore for enemies there dry.
The hammer is still alive, the revamped lowbie dungeons have them.
You do have a point that we've bled the whole thing dry. At this point we're mostly scraping at the bottom of the barrel, MoP introduced the mogu/zandalari/sha, but those were resolved pretty quickly.
While I'd agree we need to branch out to another planet, I don't think Draenor should be that planet, because this is an alternate timeline. I'd take Argus, Xoroth, or hell, a brand new planet, anything that is actually on OUR timeline.
Post by
Stabhorn
I remain convinced that Blizz introduced Warlords in order to provide a new world to explore as they lost interest in the stories and menaces Azeroth could handle on its own. As such, any future expansions will involve other continents on Draenor, and maybe alternate Azeroth.
I seriously hope not. That would be so stupid and lazy.
I don't know. Aside from the naga and remaining old gods, there isn't much left for us on Azeroth. Not to mention we've drastically reduced their numbers after Cata, wiped out the Hammer, Black and Twilight flight, and killed most of the big names we'd know from the Old Gods. If Blizzard intends to keep doing expansions, they will need to branch out of Azeroth. We've pretty much bled the lore for enemies there dry.
The hammer is still alive, the revamped lowbie dungeons have them.
You do have a point that we've bled the whole thing dry. At this point we're mostly scraping at the bottom of the barrel, MoP introduced the mogu/zandalari/sha, but those were resolved pretty quickly.
While I'd agree we need to branch out to another planet, I don't think Draenor should be that planet, because this is an alternate timeline. I'd take Argus, Xoroth, or hell, a brand new planet, anything that is actually on OUR timeline.
I agree that we need to finish with Azeroth, but what I'm against is all of this time-travel nonsense. We need to kill our Old Gods and then take the war against both them and the Legion to the rest of the universe. I'd also argue that the Zandalari, Naga and Scourge are all still pretty big threats.
Post by
morginar
Also, Cordana is not the first unique night elf we've been introduced to that is then killed off unceremoniously.
Never forget Rell :'(
He was truly a badass.......... you know, despite being alliance and all........
R.I.P Rell Nightwind
Rell? The human in a night elf model? Isn't he still alive?
Kosak Twitter
and here he is in timeless
Rell Nightwind
Post by
Rankkor
See, Kosak says that, but if you go into the actual timeless isle, he's nowhere to be found. So yeah, I'm assuming dead until shown otherwise. Notice how in the tweet he's not even sure about what he's saying, so to me it sounds like Metzen's infamous "isn't he dead?" when asked about Falstaad.
Anyhows, here are some audio spoilers:
Cordana
Draka
(THIS is how an orc woman should sound. Strong and deep voice, but still clearly female, rather than the mannish voice they gave to Zaela in MoP and WoD.)
Drek'thar
Durotar
Grom
Gul'dan
Ariok
Khadgar
Kil'rogg
Reshaad
(yay!!! I love this guy, favorite WoD character so far, right after Gan'ar of course)
Velen
Yrel
From the looks of things, Gul'dan
does
in fact show up in Hellfire Citadel and will comment on several fights, but we never face him in there, and he flees, grom is rescued and he also flees to seek out gul'dan for revenge. If this isn't the final patch, its entirely possible that the pursuit of both will lead into the next expansion.
Ohhh and new context arrived for the Khadgar soundfiles that make it sound like he kinda died. He's not dead =D
That's just the audio clips for part of the fight against Kil'rogg. One part of that fight is that we're shown a vision of the future, in which azeroth is destroyed, and the legion has won, and you and khadgar make your last, glorious, final stand against the demons. The more demons you kill on that vision, the more stacks you get of a damage buff against Kil'rogg
Audio-files for the fight with Archimonde haven't come out yet, but it looks like something REALLY important is gonna happen there. We'll see soon enough.
More information as it unfolds will follow :P(##RESPBREAK##)520##DELIM##Rankkor##DELIM##
Post by
oneforthemoney
Dammit. The shipyard looks really fun. I might need to renew my subscription...
Post by
Stabhorn
That's just the audio clips for part of the fight against Kil'rogg. One part of that fight is that we're shown a vision of the future, in which azeroth is destroyed, and the legion has won, and you and khadgar make your last, glorious, final stand against the demons. The more demons you kill on that vision, the more stacks you get of a damage buff against Kil'rogg
Audio-files for the fight with Archimonde haven't come out yet, but it looks like something REALLY important is gonna happen there. We'll see soon enough.
More information as it unfolds will follow :P
>.>
Now that bothers me. Which Azeroth do they see burning? Now if it's ours, then that should be motivation to GET BACK ON OUR OWN PLANET ASAP. But if it's the other Azeroth, I have one simple statement to make. Who. Cares.
If this 'Black Gate' links to our on Azeroth, that raises some interesting points. A union between the two different Legions could prove...troubling. (Especially if we have a still-possessed Medivh entering the fray.) I wouldn't put it past Archimonde to pull a stunt like that, but if the Legion's power is broken in this Patch, especially if we ultimately destroy the Dark Portal, then there is no logical reason to stay in this timeline.
Post by
Rankkor
Dammit. The shipyard looks really fun. I might need to renew my subscription...
I'm reserving judgement until I try it in more depth (At the moment they don't really work on the PTR)
For now, they do look like a somewhat more fun version of the follower missions. Follower missions are kinda boring for a few reasons.
1: The RNG nature of the followers, we just can't control what traits and skills they'll have. All we can do is reroll and keep fingers crossed.
2: We have no control over the outcome of the missions, we just put the followers in, and then its either done, or its not.
3: There's no real risk involved with them, if they fail, no biggie, just try another one.
The Shipyard seems to solve at least 2 of these problems.
For starters, you have to build each ship, and then equip them with different things, the skills and traits of your ships will depend on the different stuff you put on them, allowing you to actually create an armada custom-tailored to your needs.
Secondly, there's an actual risk involved with them, ships that fail their missions are destroyed, and all the resources spent in them, and their upgrades, and all the EXP they got along the way? that's all gone. Kinda like the apprentices of Assassin's Creed Brotherhood and Revelations (Which sadly got removed in 3, black flag and unity)
It would be great if the missions themselves were an actual minigame akin to the pet battling, but that'd be too much to hope for in the middle of an expansion.
Post by
Rankkor
LOL
Khadgar, you seriously crack me up xD
I guess this is one way to make an overpowered character still likable and charming. A lot (and I Do mean A LOT) of the cast in this game, on both factions, seems extremely stoic, solemn, and serious, like they have a nasty case of "stick up their butts". So its refreshing when we meet laid-back, more comedic characters that can lighten the already tense mood.
Its the reason why Riku, Lorewalker Cho, Reshaad, and Khadgar are among my favorite characters in all expanisions. It can't be all seriousness all the time, we need to chill out from time to time.
Post by
oneforthemoney
Riku
Kingdom Hearts Warcraft crossover.
Must happen.
Post by
Rankkor
Wait....... but Kingdom Hearts
is
already a crossover of Disney and Final Fantasy.
A crossover of a crossover? O_o
Post by
oneforthemoney
Wait....... but Kingdom Hearts
is
already a crossover of Disney and Final Fantasy.
A crossover of a crossover? O_o
Fiction squared.
Post by
355559
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Post by
oneforthemoney
Riku
Kingdom Hearts Warcraft crossover.
Must happen.
We talked about this. It's never happening again.
You're only saying that because you hate fun.
Post by
355559
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
oneforthemoney
Riku
Kingdom Hearts Warcraft crossover.
Must happen.
We talked about this. It's never happening again.
You're only saying that because you hate fun.
I'm now extremely concerned on what your definition of 'fun' consists of.
As well you should be.
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