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Post by
Skreeran
Who's Valeria?
Her, obviously.
Post by
morginar
Who's Valeria?
Her, obviously.
No, meant to write valeera sanguinar.
Sylvanas hooking up to a human.
HA!
That's as likely as Varian marrying an orc.
They have wroten that she had/has a thing for Nathanos Blightcaller.
Post by
Adamsm
Rumours only, never confirmed...and they are both dead now, so no chance of anything happening. And Rank meant Banshee Queen hooking up with a living human.
Post by
Rankkor
Who's Valeria?
Her, obviously.
No, meant to write valeera sanguinar.
Would be kinda creepy if she hooks up with Varian, considering she's almost a child, while he is quite old already.
Come on, it was creepy in twilight, it can be just as creepy here, so let us do a pray that blizzard NEVER goes that route.
Sylvanas hooking up to a human.
HA!
That's as likely as Varian marrying an orc.
They have wroten that she had/has a thing for Nathanos Blightcaller.
Even if that was canon (And I doubt it is, I got the vibe that they had more of a Mentor/Apprentice relationship) they are both undead now, so Nathanos no longer counts as "human". I would actually approve if Sylvanas hooks up with him, maybe that would make her less of a stiff. She needs to unwind, if you get what I mean.
/Nod-nod-wink-wink-and-all-that's-in-between
And Rank meant Banshee Queen hooking up with a living human.
Yep. This right here is never EVER gonna happen. IF it does, that will be a sign that this game has officially jumped the shark.
Post by
morginar
Would be kinda creepy if she hooks up with Varian, considering she's almost a child, while he is quite old already.
Come on, it was creepy in twilight, it can be just as creepy here, so let us do a pray that blizzard NEVER goes that route.
In a way they already do with evry human elf relationship. The elf being 1-300 or more and the human 20-30. It's like for comparison a 40 year old and a 5 year old dating.
And we do not realy know Valeeras age. IIRC she was older than Varian but young for a elf (elvenfolk being adult at age 100ish, and she was not adult by that standard.)
Even if that was canon (And I doubt it is, I got the vibe that they had more of a Mentor/Apprentice relationship) they are both undead now, so Nathanos no longer counts as "human". I would actually approve if Sylvanas hooks up with him, maybe that would make her less of a stiff. She needs to unwind, if you get what I mean.
/Nod-nod-wink-wink-and-all-that's-in-between
Id rather have Sylvanas dating an elf (preferbly a female for a canon homoship). Or is the Windrunner family trailer trash that hook up with monkey-looking 5 year olds? I mean 2/3 Windrunners have romance with humans.
Yep. This right here is never EVER gonna happen. IF it does, that will be a sign that this game has officially jumped the shark. I agree. Though they can derp with Sylvanas geting ressurected by the power of "true love".
Rumours only, never confirmed...and they are both dead now, so no chance of anything happening. And Rank meant Banshee Queen hooking up with a living human.
I see. But why shouln't undeads be able to romance? Even if they are unable to get junior up.
Post by
Adamsm
But why shouln't undeads be able to romance?Primarily from the way the Forsaken act; there doesn't seem to be any room in their minds for love.
Post by
morginar
But why shouln't undeads be able to romance?Primarily from the way the Forsaken act; there doesn't seem to be any room in their minds for love.
From the legends there is a story about a blood elf, undead and scarlets. That undead still value love for his niece. Undeads shold still be able to feel love for the one they where close to in life, or others they encounter in undeath. Sylvanas is loved by her people. Apothecaries love blight.
Just becouse undeads can't have sex doesn't mean they may form relationships. Or feel love. They feel hate, thus should be able to feel love. Heat can't exist without cold after all.
Post by
Adamsm
Again, just from what we've seen, love doesn't seem to be something that the Forsaken want. And to be fair...hatred was running the Forsaken for almost 9 years until the fall of the Lich King, after all, Sylvanas broke free when the power of the King was waning and her hatred of Arthas.
Post by
morginar
love doesn't seem to be something that the Forsaken want.
Riko x Kiryn
Undeads are able to feel love. Isn't that something we both can agree to? Given how you worded it. I think you feel the same. Though
Ever So Lonely
. Some do want happines and love.
Post by
Rankkor
Would be kinda creepy if she hooks up with Varian, considering she's almost a child, while he is quite old already.
Come on, it was creepy in twilight, it can be just as creepy here, so let us do a pray that blizzard NEVER goes that route.
In a way they already do with evry human elf relationship. The elf being 1-300 or more and the human 20-30. It's like for comparison a 40 year old and a 5 year old dating.
Not really since mentally, both the elf and the human are adults, even if the elf is several decades/centuries older.
But Valeera has been specifically identified as a teenager, so regardless of what her actual age is, compared to Varian, she's still a child. Anduin...... beware little buddy.
Id rather have Sylvanas dating an elf (preferbly a female for a canon homoship). Or is the Windrunner family trailer trash that hook up with monkey-looking 5 year olds? I mean 2/3 Windrunners have romance with humans.
It seems that in order to qualify as a member of the Windrunner family you need to be a stuck up jerkass. And I sincerely doubt we will ever see any major canon gay pairings in this game. Dunno, but its just this hunch I have that blizzard will never risk it. We can have implied ones, or subtext, but never a direct one.
Yep. This right here is never EVER gonna happen. IF it does, that will be a sign that this game has officially jumped the shark. I agree. Though they can derp with Sylvanas geting ressurected by the power of "true love".
You're killing me man :S
Sylvannas hooking up with a living human is jumping the shark. But her hooking up with a living human and then getting resurrected through the power of love would be
this
.
Rumours only, never confirmed...and they are both dead now, so no chance of anything happening. And Rank meant Banshee Queen hooking up with a living human.
I see. But why shouln't undeads be able to romance? Even if they are unable to get junior up.
its confirmed that they can still feel love. Sylvannas, despite all the crazy going on in her head, still loves her sisters as she evidently cries when you give her their locket in TBC. Kyrin displays emotions for Riko, and even Tassarian/Koltira have some Bromance vibe going on.
Post by
Adamsm
Sylvannas, despite all the crazy going on in her head, still loves her sisters as she evidently cries when you give her their locket in TBC.Or the alternate interpretation, where the Lament of the Highborne is just that; the Lament of the fall of the High Elven race and what she has become.
Post by
Rankkor
Sylvannas, despite all the crazy going on in her head, still loves her sisters as she evidently cries when you give her their locket in TBC.Or the alternate interpretation, where the Lament of the Highborne is just that; the Lament of the fall of the High Elven race and what she has become.
I wasn't talking about the lament of the highborn, that comes AFTER turning the quest in. I'm talking about actual crying and for a split second displaying emotional weakness and vulnerability when she remembers her sisters and how close they used to be, as well as how distant they are now.
She clearly loves her sisters, despite everything else, and deeply resents that regardless of her actions, her sisters will likely never see her as anything other than a monster.
Post by
Adamsm
deeply resents that regardless of her actions, her sisters will likely never see her as anything other than a monster.That...I don't think is correct. /shrug
Post by
Rankkor
deeply resents that regardless of her actions, her sisters will likely never see her as anything other than a monster.That...I don't think is correct. /shrug
Well, I did said "likely". We have never really seen what her sisters think of her. Because Alleria has been MIA, and Vereesa's only contribution to the game has been becoming a genocidal maniac (Must run in the family, I dunno).
At the very least, Sylvannas "thinks" her sisters hate her, whether or not that's actually true remains to be seen.
Post by
Adamsm
It's obvious what the sisters are going to think of her:
Alleria: Look at how she felt about orcs....and then think about what the Scourge did....and the Plague that Sylvanas gave the a okay to create. She'll probably be at the forefront to try to slaughter Sylvanas when she comes back. Oh and of course, allying with the Orcs.
Vereesa: Was mentioned in Night of the Dragon that supposedly she was still unaware of what had occurred, and may have only knew the Forsaken leader as the Banshee Queen. But after what the Horde 'did' to Theramore and her husband, can't see any chance of a happy reunion for all three Windrunners.
Post by
Rankkor
Alleria: Look at how she felt about orcs....and then think about what the Scourge did....and the Plague that Sylvanas gave the a okay to create. She'll probably be at the forefront to try to slaughter Sylvanas when she comes back. Oh and of course, allying with the Orcs
I dunno man. The very reason she hated the orcs was because they burned part of the quel'thalas forest, and killed a bunch of elves. I don't believe she's gonna take it well when she learns what a certain alliance cretin did to her people.
We'll see when (if?) she's added to the game.
But after what the Horde 'did' to Theramore and her husband, can't see any chance of a happy reunion for all three Windrunners.
None of the horde leaders knew about the bomb, none of them condoned the attack, and only followed through lest they be charged with treason by garrosh and killed. And with Garrosh being made a scapegoat for every atrocity commited in the war, every horde leader could get exonerated for their part on it.
Specially since they really had no clue about the bomb until after it detonated.
Post by
H3Knuckles
But after what the Horde 'did' to Theramore and her husband, can't see any chance of a happy reunion for all three Windrunners.
None of the horde leaders knew about the bomb, none of them condoned the attack, and only followed through lest they be charged with treason by garrosh and killed. And with Garrosh being made a scapegoat for every atrocity commited in the war, every horde leader could get exonerated for their part on it.
Specially since they really had no clue about the bomb until after it detonated.
Yes, but does Alleria really strike you as the kind of person to wait and listen long enough to learn all that? I feel like she's more the type to jump to conclusions and start casting aspersions about how base and vile the orcs and their allies are? Y'know, like Vereesa, & Jaina post-Theramore.
Post by
Adamsm
None of the horde leaders knew about the bomb, none of them condoned the attack, and only followed through lest they be charged with treason by garrosh and killed. And with Garrosh being made a scapegoat for every atrocity commited in the war, every horde leader could get exonerated for their part on it.
Specially since they really had no clue about the bomb until after it detonated.That's not how the Warcraft universe works; the strong bloody minded women never change, and you don't get much more violent and vicious then Alleria. I'm betting she'll end up the leader of the High Elves if/when she returns and we'll get a whole new dimension of war between the Alliance and the Horde as she heads north to reclaim her home land....since, more then likely to her eyes, she'll see the Blood Elves as traitors to the elvish way with joining with the vile orcs and trolls.
Post by
morginar
the strong bloody minded women never change,
Tyrande turned into armcandy damsel in distress... Maiev turned lolcrazy and the night elven army turned incompitent.
Sylvanas turned into evil "lich queen" in cata.
reclaim
Invade*
We do not know what she had to do in order to survive. If you belive that the arcane adiction only requiers a little willpower then she might be fine. If you belive it to require a steady amount of mana. Then she might have taken fel/ drained from mana puppys and may sympathize with the blood elves.
she'll see the Blood Elves as traitors to the elvish way with joining with the vile orcs and trolls.
Corect me if im wrong but didn't Alleria ally a orc clan in draenor? Forming an alliance for convenience, same with the blood elves and the forsaken.
I'm betting she'll end up the leader of the High Elves if/when she returns
I'm beting she will be the ranger-general of Silvermoon.
But after what the Horde 'did' to Theramore and her husband, can't see any chance of a happy reunion for all three Windrunners.
None of the horde leaders knew about the bomb, none of them condoned the attack, and only followed through lest they be charged with treason by garrosh and killed. And with Garrosh being made a scapegoat for every atrocity commited in the war, every horde leader could get exonerated for their part on it.
Specially since they really had no clue about the bomb until after it detonated.
Yes, but does Alleria really strike you as the kind of person to wait and listen long enough to learn all that? I feel like she's more the type to jump to conclusions and start casting aspersions about how base and vile the orcs and their allies are? Y'know, like Vereesa, & Jaina post-Theramore.
If she hears the blood elven version first or decides to hear both versions in order to pick the right side....
Eaither way Sylvanas is her sister and Alleria won't kill her on sight. Especialy when Sylvanas start crying and runing for a hug :3
Alleria may or may not slap Veressa due to the purge. Might even join the Blood elves due to it.
Alleria may or may not have been 25+ years on a diffrent planet than Tyralion, or broken up with him. Love is not eternal.
Arator the redemer may or may not be a dreadlord. There is no mention of pregnancy in the books.
Arator may or may not be considered a freak in the eyes of Alleria.
Arator may or may not be cannon.
And aslo enought of this WC2 nostaliga. It seems to be the main motivator for playable generic high elves and Alleria/Tyralion.
Post by
Adamsm
Eaither way Sylvanas is her sister and Alleria won't kill her on sight. Especialy when Sylvanas start crying and runing for a hug :3Uh huh...I'm betting she get's an arrow to the face if she tried it.
Arator the redemer may or may not be a dreadlord. There is no mention of pregnancy in the books.
Arator may or may not be considered a freak in the eyes of Alleria.
Arator may or may not be cannon.Someone needs to read Beyond the Dark Portal; Arator is canon.
If you belive that the arcane adiction only requiers a little willpower then she might be fine. Since we have High Elves still, I'm guessing yes, as there were mages in the Expedition, and Vereesa staved off her addiction due to Rhonin...and for all we know, Alleria could have gotten a fix from her husband as well.
Corect me if im wrong but didn't Alleria ally a orc clan in draenor? Forming an alliance for convenience, same with the blood elves and the forsaken.One battle, and she was still a hair trigger from murdering them; if Turaylon hadn't been there, she would have just slaughtered them all and gone on her merry way. What the Blood Elves have done is been the allies of the 'hated' Orcs and Trolls(not the same trolls but still there) for quite some time...and now that a Troll leads the Horde, even less of a chance, since Alleria was an accomplished Troll killer in her time.
Edit: And it's possible(more then likely) that when T&A return, he'll end up neutral...but as seen with Vereesa, it's possible for a couple to be one half neutral and one half on a faction.
Really; let the Alliance have Alleria and Turaylon. They were grand heroes of the Alliance back in the day and they honestly should stay that way. The Alliance keeps losing heroes to the neutral factions, and it's starting to get really ^&*!ing tiresome.
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