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Adamsm
And I don't go to MMOChump.
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And I don't go to MMOChump.
And yet you could not go there and still get the information because that was freely available information elsewhere. They just aggregated it.
I know, just don't like links from that site.
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Adamsm
brutally torturing captured alliance civilians to death?Probably not...since that would be just like what the Forsaken were doing in the Undercity, and that's been done to death.
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Morec0
And using forsaken to do the experiments would be best since they're completely amoral, and wouldn't hesitate to do the deed. He'd need experimenters who wouldn't be held back by morals.
The problem is that Garrosh wouldn't do that - He doesn't trust the Forsaken as far as he can throw them since he can throw them pretty far and he trusts them far less than that.
It'll have to come from within and be his sole decision.
Maybe the black metal will be retconned to be saronite?
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Rankkor
Hmm.....I wonder what kind of nasty (key word: nasty) things garrosh has been doing beneath org..........brutally torturing captured alliance civilians to death? Performing experiments on orcs to create mutant dire orcs like the one in gilneas? We already know garrosh goes evil so none of this is really farfetched.
And, I'm agreeing with rankorr about the possibility of peace in the future; neither side has to like each other for their to be peace, they just have to agree to not fight each other and leave each other be.
If that happens it'll be at the end of WoW.
Simply put, it's going to be something stupid like importing Sha energies from MoP in order to transform Orcs or Sha-empowered Dire Orcs. AKA - not quite like his father but enough so that people want to take him down for it.
Which is the point I've been trying to hammer here.
Look man, I'm really confused when you say things like this one:
The Rebel Horde and Alliance will not form a united front but rather will race to see who gets the Garrosh kill, punking out Vol'jin who swore he'd be one to end Garrosh's life if he did something stupid (bonus points to Blizzard for leaving him at 1% and Vol'jin finishing him off but I doubt this will happen as allegedly Garrosh
returns
in MoP)
dude, garrosh gets killed AFTER MoP. NOT BEFORE.
You seem to believe that in the PRE-mop patch, garrosh kicks the bucket. Yet that's not how its gonna go down. he is warchief now, he is going to be warchief on MoP, and its not until MoP is OVER that he will be dethroned.
As for the end of the war being the end of wow, well, I have my own suspicion that the expansion AFTER MoP is gonna be the last expac of wow. Just call it a gut feeling. Level cap will be 100, army of the light will be assembled (With people of both factions) and we face our final battle against the legion or the old gods (That one is still up in the air due to what was revealed in twilight of the aspects)
And I don't go to MMOChump.
if you don't like MMOchump (can't really blame you, they love to inject a lot of BS in real news) then don't go to MMOchump, but that doesn't change the fact that this info on jaina "possibly" (its not set in stone yet) going evil was from another fansite.
I know they have Rank...but look how long it took the Shen's to even leave their lands, as they were worried they'd be killed on sight.
It doesn't matter how long it took them to make nice, the point is THEY MADE NICE. Took millenia, but it happened. Same deal with the quel'dorei/sin'dorei. Took a while but they ARE mending fences. This stuff doesn't happen overnight, but it IS happening.
Hmm.....I wonder what kind of nasty (key word: nasty) things garrosh has been doing beneath org..........brutally torturing captured alliance civilians to death? Performing experiments on orcs to create mutant dire orcs like the one in gilneas? We already know garrosh goes evil so none of this is really farfetched.
I'm calling it right now: Ragefire Chasm 2.0
I'm betting that instance is gonna get recycled (They seem to love doing that)
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Rankkor
Also I seem to have misinterpreted the problem. It's Garrosh dies at the end of MoP and not the end of Cata. Derp. Don't I feel dumb.
Makes a bit more sense, still a waste of development, still shoehorning Thrall in when I got tired of that character since the beginning of Cata. Still nobody but Humans/Orcs get development.
:P I've noticed.
yes he dies at the end of MoP. We still gotta have this sucker as the horde leader for yet another expansion.
/sarcasm
yay
/sarcasm
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Adamsm
As for the end of the war being the end of wow, well, I have my own suspicion that the expansion AFTER MoP is gonna be the last expac of wow. Just call it a gut feeling. Level cap will be 100, army of the light will be assembled (With people of both factions) and we face our final battle against the legion or the old gods (That one is still up in the air due to what was revealed in twilight of the aspects)I can see two expansions still: Dealing with the Old Gods of Azeroth then the forming of the Army of Light to take out the Legion....cause leaving the planet to go Legion hunting while the Old Gods are still around is just asking to come back to find the world a hell place lol.
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Rankkor
As for the end of the war being the end of wow, well, I have my own suspicion that the expansion AFTER MoP is gonna be the last expac of wow. Just call it a gut feeling. Level cap will be 100, army of the light will be assembled (With people of both factions) and we face our final battle against the legion or the old gods (That one is still up in the air due to what was revealed in twilight of the aspects)I can see two expansions still: Dealing with the Old Gods of Azeroth then the forming of the Army of Light to take out the Legion....cause leaving the planet to go Legion hunting while the Old Gods are still around is just asking to come back to find the world a hell place lol.
Dunno, :S I couldn't take ANOTHER expansion of 5 levels. And them going above lvl 100 seems unlikely. It just sounds like a more solid number to end the game. Woulnd't be the same to end it at 110 or 105.
Besides, both threats could be dealt with on the same expansion.
We devote 80% of the expansion in the Burning Bastion dealing with the legion, and just when we think all is kosher and happy, BAM post-expansion patch to deal with the old gods.
Like when you gotta kill Izanagi-no-okami at the epilogue of Persona 4 :P
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Adamsm
Can't see it Rank; there are still three Old Gods hiding somewhere on Azeroth, and dealing with all 3 of them in an end of the expansion patch seems meh to me. I agree we won't see a cap past 100 but that doesn't mean they have to stop putting out content or new abilities.
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Rankkor
Can't see it Rank; there are still three Old Gods hiding somewhere on Azeroth, and dealing with all 3 of them in an end of the expansion patch seems meh to me. I agree we won't see a cap past 100 but that doesn't mean they have to stop putting out content or new abilities.
we're gonna have to wait and see for that one (And I hate waiting :S)
but yes, my gut tells me, there's only 2 more expansions left. MoP and the last one. On MoP after garrosh is deposed, we finnaly see the end of the alliance vs horde war, there's peace (if not friendship) between its races, they both agree to reach a compromise (To avoid engulfing the world in Sha) and on the last expac we focus on the Legion.
Because one thing is for sure, when we DO face the legion, that war HAS to be over. Do you imagine if the Army of Light was fighting among itself? no way no how. That Army of Light, made of all the sapient races of azeroth capable of warfare has to fight like a cohesive unit, and that can only happen when there's peace between the 2 factions.
I dunno, the timing fits.
Plus once we defeat the legion, wow is over, no more expansions are released, and the plot is tied up in books and comics. So while gameplay-wise we will still have BGs and arenas and world pvp, lorewise, there will be peace between the factions.
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Adamsm
Rank, I could easily see rogue groups from within the faction going after the Army of Light, even if they aren't being controlled by Legion or Old Gods forces....just like in the real world, the races of Azeroth are selfish heh. I mean come on, even the most 'peaceful' of the races the Tauren, still have one of the most vicious and power mad groups in their midst; the Grimtotems(okay not as bad as they used to be, but they still exist even if some have officially joined up with the main group of Taurens at this point).
In the future, could still have conflicts among the Three Dwarf clans, could have battles among the Draenei and the Broken of Outland, Forsaken are ripe for civil wars(heh ripe), Maiev found a large number of Night Elves who thought like her and wanted to shatter the Alliance and return the Night Elves to their lives of seclusion from the rest of the world, the Human nations have the hates boiling under their skins(mainly the Theramore/Lordaeron survivors being sore that no Stormwind or Gilneas forces showed up to help in the Third War), who knows what Kul Tiras has been up to, could see conflicts between Outland and Azeroth orcs(cultural and the like); there are still fights out there.
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