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Post by
Adamsm
Aye; though, I was never behind the Thrall Jaina stuff. And my own personal respect of Varian aside, not really behind the Varian/Jaina hook up either; I prefer her single and acting as an Aunt to Anduin heh. Actually wish there were scenes for that in game; at certain times, he appears in Theramore to visit her.
Post by
Rankkor
Ten bucks we never hear from Zaela again.
/sarcasm
my my, u're an optimist
/sarcasm
although, considering what blizz has done to other good female characters, I can't say I blame you, what they did to Kettara was a cheap shot I won't forgive that easily.
also, I tried to hold it, but I just cant. I can't
I have to ask: what's with the cutesy avatars? O_o
Post by
Adamsm
He's obsessed with the remake of My Little Pony.
Post by
306612
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Behelich
On topic, I wish we saw more of Lady Liadrin when the Blizz turns to BC races again
Post by
Morec0
Ten bucks we never hear from Zaela again.
/sarcasm
my my, u're an optimist
/sarcasm
If we do hear from her, it means the Dragonmaw will do things. I doubt that'll happen. I'd wager they go more in the route of the BC races than anything else.
Well, the ethereal's made an appearence in Wrath...
On topic, I wish we saw more of Lady Liadrin when the Blizz turns to BC races again
Unlikely. If they were interested in using them we would have likely seen an arc about them and Ner'zhul - or at least some mention - during Wrath.
Post by
Behelich
Well, the ethereal's made an appearence in Wrath...
So did three arakkoas, a void lord and a beholder/floating eye.
Post by
Adamsm
Well, the ethereal's made an appearence in Wrath...Yeah, an evil faction of them.
On topic, I wish we saw more of Lady Liadrin when the Blizz turns to BC races again
Unlikely. If they were interested in using them we would have likely seen an arc about them and Ner'zhul - or at least some mention - during Wrath.
Why? She was out to deal with Kael and help her people and the 'cousins'; she let the war in the north happen while she was busy in the south. We'll probably see more with her in the Outland revamp; and if they ever change the triad of Silvermoon.
Post by
Morec0
Well, the ethereal's made an appearence in Wrath...
So did three arakkoas, a void lord and a beholder/floating eye.
Outside of the instance too. Remember that one from Dragonblight? It's a shame Blizz decided to seemingly abandon that arc.
Post by
Adamsm
Well, the ethereal's made an appearence in Wrath...
So did three arakkoas, a void lord and a beholder/floating eye.
Outside of the instance too. Remember that one from Dragonblight? It's a shame Blizz decided to seemingly abandon that arc.
I was referring to the one in Dragonblight when I made the evil faction comment; he wasn't there as a servant of the Constorium Prince after all lol. I don't count the Violet Hold prison choices as being completely canon since Mage didn't have an ethereal or the arakkoa as part of the mass jailbreak; just lots of Orcs, twin headed ogres, humans, elves and demons.
Post by
Patty
Unlikely. If they were interested in using them we would have likely seen an arc about them and Ner'zhul - or at least some mention - during Wrath.
Why?
Revenge against the Scourge. I, too, was disappointed by the lack of blood elf actions (okay, the Sunreavers
existed
- but didn't really do anything).
Post by
Adamsm
Unlikely. If they were interested in using them we would have likely seen an arc about them and Ner'zhul - or at least some mention - during Wrath.
Why?
Revenge against the Scourge. I, too, was disappointed by the lack of blood elf actions (okay, the Sunreavers
existed
- but didn't really do anything).
Just as bad as the Covenant though, another group that wants the Scourge gone too. But look where she was; in the Sunwell, trying to heal the fracture between the two EK elf groups...not succeeding(and doubt she ever will), but at least she wasn't just sitting around doing nothing like poor Valen has been doing since the end of BC and Lor'themar since before; the other faction leaders have all had something going on.
Post by
Patty
Just as bad as the Covenant though, another group that wants the Scourge gone too. But look where she was; in the Sunwell, trying to heal the fracture between the two EK elf groups...not succeeding(and doubt she ever will), but at least she wasn't just sitting around doing nothing like poor Valen has been doing since the end of BC and Lor'themar since before;
the other faction leaders have all had something going on
.
Tyrande wants a word. ;)
Post by
Adamsm
Her husband came back =P, but yeah, her too.
Post by
Rankkor
Ten bucks we never hear from Zaela again.
/sarcasm
my my, u're an optimist
/sarcasm
If we do hear from her, it means the Dragonmaw will do things. I doubt that'll happen. I'd wager they go more in the route of the BC races than anything else.
not necesarily, see, they gave her a unique voice-actress. Blizz usually only does that when they have big plans for a character. Look at that badass female mag'har on feralas. She's awesome but she has a regular female orc voice, and thus we never hear from her again. Look at Aponi Brightmane, a fantastic badass tauren paladin, but regular voice, thus we never hear from her again. Liandin, another female paladin, really cool one too, but regular voice=relegated to extra (she does has a unique voice on the sunwell ending though, but is voiceless on the quel'delar chain)
also, why do you doubt the dragonmaw will do things? on BC the maghar joined the horde, and did they fade into oblivion? nope, they had a strong presence in Wrath, and cata. The taunka joined on Wrath, and while they don't have a strong presence in cata, you do see them here and there.
This is what I like about the horde, our newly joined members get a nice ceremony of joining, and they do show up here and there. Unlike the alliance who has had several new playable and nonplayable members who only show up once, and never again.
let's do a recount:
Draenei: had no oficial ceremony of joining, and have only showed esporadically on wrath and cata.
kurenai: Had no oficial ceremony of joining, you just stumble into them, and they ask for help, you help them, and never again are they seen.
Frost Dwarves: you only exclusively see them on the stormpeaks, no oficial joining ceremony, are NEVER seen again anywhere else, in fact if you aren't alliance, don't expect to ever see one, as they aparently don't exist outside their base on stormpeaks.
Worgens: their adition to the alliance was also without much ceremony, they get under attack, elves arrive saying they want to help, gilneans accept the help do what they can to repel the invaders and then get to darnassus, and just like that boom, they are alliance again, whatever deal greymane made to be accepted back into the alliance was behind doors and we don't see it happening. Plus after their starting zone is over, worgens suffer from the same fate as the draenei. After finishign all the cata zones as alliance I saw 1 worgen on vashjir, zero on hyjal, (at least alliance side, there were hostile ones for the twilight) zero on deepholm, zero on uldum, 2 on twilight highlands but hostile (1 a member of twilight, another a part of the crucible of carnage)
so in short, they were added and discarded just as fast. The only evidence they ever managed to do anything out of gilneas is 1 little near-empty town on blasted lands, and scattered worgens (you never ever EVER see a non-worgen gilnean ever again even when suposedly several of them escaped, and that only a few gilneas became sane worgens) as well as the failed attempt to get payback on silverpine.
Wildhammer: these are weird, because since vanilla, their oficial stance is that they are allliance but at the same time are not. They were friendly to the alliance but kept to themselves, and refused to mingle with them, and their dwarven cousins, It was sort of like "we like you guys and all that, and you can hang out with us if you like, but don't expect us to hang out with you, because we wont". Cue cataclysm and now they are more like "the dragonmaw joined the horde, we can't hold them back now, so now we need our own backup, so alliance, we're ok with hanging out with you now"
I did their intro on the twiligth highlands and it really is summed up like that. Now that THEY need the alliance, THEY are ok with sending troops and so now we see wildhammer dwarves in several parts of the alliance.
now lets see the horde side shall we?
on TBC we had the blood elves, and while their role has been smaller than the other races, they had a presence in TBC (to the point that 4 instances and 2 raids revolved arround them) they had a presence in wrath (Sunreavers as well as the quel'delar chain) they had a presence in cata (with the new Reliquary) and several bases on all continents to show that they still endure. Plus they had a joining ceremony in wich the player sends a letter from lorthemar to sylvannas to get her seal, and then to the warchief to make it oficial.
Then we get the Mag'har: these joined the horde as well, with ceremony (when we make first contact, and send a letter from them to nazgrel and then to thrall, and then thrall travels to garadar to both redeem garrosh, visit his grandmother, and oficially make the other mag'har part of the horde) and they have a strong presence in all expantions. On WOTLK you can see several brown orcs on multiple parts of northrend, there's the honorguard of warsong hold, the second-in-command of the horde gunship and several others. They also get a presence in cataclysm, as not only our new warchief is mag'har, there's the commander in stonetalon, the comander in hillbrad, the female one on feralas, and several other prominent mag'har figures.
Taunka: joined on WOTLK; with ceremony (we make diplomatic contact, help them, help them evacuate, give them weapons and armors, the oath of loyalty to the horde, and put our tabards on their leader) and had a mild but noticeable presence in WOTLK; unlike the frost dwarves, we see taunka on borean tundra, howling fjord, grizzly hills, and stormpeaks, plus a couple of them on the argent tournament. And we see scattered taunka here and there in cataclysm (To my memory, 1 in durotar, 1 in vahsjir, 1 in orgrimmar ect)
Goblins: joined the horde on cataclysm, they had an oficial (but short, and rather dumb) ceremony in wich our very warchief welcoms them (but lets them keep their tyranical ruler :S) and they are so prominent they are EVERYWHERE. Several SEVERAL bases on the eastern kingdoms, and kalimdor, and multiple bases on all of the catazones,
Dragonmaw: the black sheep of the horde, these join in cata, with a spectacular ULTRABADASS intro (with a few nods to 300) and are now more like "If we are part of your horde, you better be as strong as us, cuz we don't hang out with weaklings"
it's posible that just like the mag'har became people of prominence in the horde, so too will the dragonmaw as well dude.
Post by
306612
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Adamsm
The Sorrow of the Southern Barrens.
Reboot.
And not sure if noticed or not heh.
Post by
Skreeran
I don't know, Rank.
Elementalist Ortell
got his own voice, but after his role in Hyjal, we never heard from him again.
I mean, I'd like to see more of Zaela and the Dragonmaw, but I have a feeling it'll just be more of the Draenei/Blood Elves/Taunka, where you might see one or two of them here or there, but they don't really get any more plot.
Post by
Orranis
And not sure if noticed or not heh.
That's a lot of new information and kudos to you for making it, only thing is...
Your use of the word 'utterly' in that thing made me want to puke.
But yeah, great summary for an explanation I was needing.
Post by
Adamsm
Your use of the word 'utterly' in that thing made me want to puke.Was only used twice.
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