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Comentario de asjova

As of patch 2.0.1 this quest gains you 75 Wintersaber Trainers reputation per turn in.

Comentario de Breotan

Unless I am very mistaken, you need to get your ten meats and then turn in the quest. You cannot just stockpile 200 of each and then spam turn-ins like you do runecloth to the faction quartermaster. The drop rate isn't exactly spectacular either. Yes, its sucks, but generally this weeds out the undedicated.

EDIT: Verified that you now get 250 Rep per turn-in on live servers after 2.3 patch.

Comentario de Wizup

Hmm i can do this quest in around 9-10 minutes with deliver and back again

Hunter 70 Markmanship

Comentario de Robotusch

A good place to start the grind, is to run straight east from the Frostsaber Rock and begin grinding while going south. You will only encounter Elder Shardtooth & Chillwind Ravagers (apart from the odd neutral Winterspring Screechers), and as soon as you've completed the quest you can head west to get back on the road going north to hand it in.

Comentario de Tamika

if winterfall willage is swarmed do this. if not - don't

Comentario de Bleh

In the 2.3 PTR, each turn in gives you 250 rep.

Comentario de 87980

OK well im in the middle of farming for this gorgeous mount.. i wouldnt say its hard.. but its very time consuming!!
Anyway wish me luck,
maybe i should mention that i am lvl 69.. so it isnt hard at all to kill anything in winterspring.
I WILL have that mount .. i swear it :P

Comentario de 104013

As of 2-21-08 I recieved 275 rep with the Wintersaber Trainers upon completion.

Comentario de FlawedHero

Verified that you can not pick up more than 5 of each meat at a time.

I had 4 of each meat in my bags and killed two bears who each dropped one (I checked before looting), once I looted one the meat on the other disappeared.

Comentario de 91384

I started this questline last night -- it's 275/turn-in for humans. Nothing else, just rep. I'll update as I get higher -- the droprate %^&*ing SUCKS! I killed about 100 mobs / quest. Good thing I'm 70 with high spell dmg consecrates, a lot of armor and health, and the ability to heal myself while killing stuff. :D

I'll keep it updated as I continue. At this rate, it'll take about a week.

Comentario de 128360

this quest is useless...when u get the other 1 to kill the furblogs, u get the same amount of rep (250) BUT it takes twice as long as the other 1 (the furblog 1) so i would just stay with the furblog 1.

Comentario de 104252

Started questing for this at 58 well worth it for the mount looks amazing (i also have the pet that matches) i'm halfway to revered and im 60 (note thats from grinding these) i find the best way to do this is to work till you have all three quest pick all three up then start at the giants work your way back towards everlook killing every single shardtooth and chillwind that you see and get the meat then run into everlook drop off the gray items and other extras that you have run behind kill the furbolgs then run back and repeat this way you dont just get 250 you can get 850 each time your done and it goes by much much faster

Comentario de Mousa

What rank do you have to be with the fanction to get the mount? friendly, revered, exalted maybe?

Comentario de 147340

A Hunter with a Frostsaber should be able to do this quest quite easily :-)
You only need to do this until you reach 1500/3000 Neutral...

Comentario de 172152

Currently being 1010/12000 into honored here are my tips for this quest. You MUST be alliance to do these quests.

The Wintersaber Trainers are located in Northern Winterspring and pretty much the point of grinding reputation with them is solely to get Reins of the Winterspring Frostsaber. Now, pre-BC this mount was extremely hard to get due to the little amount of reputation you would get per quest turn in thus the grind was highly not worth it. Since Burning Crusade came out the reputation has been increased however the mount is still uncommon since people don't find the worth of the grind.

To get started you must find Rivern Frostwind (Note: he is literally on top of the giant rock at (49,9). You can get up to him from the back of the rock).

Outline of the reputation levels:

Frostsaber Provisions
1500/3000 Reputation: Winterfall Intrusion

Overview of the quests:

Frostsaber Provisions
Repuation: 250 (Humans: 275)
For this quest you need to collect:

Shardtooth Meat (5)
Chillwind Meat (5)

This quest seems pretty straight forward. I suggest killing Elder Shardtooth and Chillwind Ravager to get these meats. I find a good place to farm these is around (58,19). They have about a 30% drop rate.

Winterfall Intrusion
This quest becomes unlocked at 1500/3000 Neutral
Repuation: 250 (Humans: 275)
For this quest you need to slay:

Winterfall Shaman (5)
Winterfall Ursa (5)

This quest you need to head down to the Winterfall Village (67,36). If you're finding a lack of Winterfall Ursa look on the hill behind the camp. Shamans are spawned inside the camp. If you see a lack of them kill what's in there and some will spawn. There is always a shaman with High Chief Winterfall.

Rampaging Giants (Group)
This quest becomes unlocked at Honored
Repuation: 350 (Humans: 385)
For this quest you need to slay:

Frostmaul Giant (4)
Frostmaul Preserver (4)

This quest you need to head down to the Frostwhisper Gorge (62,67). And ramp down can be found at (59,64). These have a good spawn rate, pretty evenly mixed. If someone else if farming them you can hear back up and across the bridge to about (62,73) and you'll find more there. These are 60 elites however they are pretty easy to kill (me being a 0,21,40 destro warlock). The only downside to this quest is really the walk.

Tips for farming:

It's always nice to have a friend. This is a really boring grind so it's nice to have someone to do it with.
Riding Crop or Skybreaker Whip are worth it for this grind
Except for the elites, you can pull a few of these a time as a 70 and be okay.
Once you hit honored and you unlock Rampaging Giants I would only do that and Winterfall Intrusion. The ride is longer but not having to farm the meat with the bad drop rate and the bonus repuation is worth it if you can take the elites.
Don't get discouraged. It seems like it's gonna take forever but it's not as bad as it seems. In one day I'm a bit into honored.

Some math:

Neutral -> Friendly:

Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions:
12 trips ---- Humans: 11 trips
Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions and adding Winterfall Intrusion at (1500/3000):
9 trips --- Humans: 9 (there'll be a bit of leftover)

Friendly -> Honored

Honored -> Revered

Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions or Winterfall Intrusion:
48 trips ---- Humans: 44 trips
Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions and Winterfall Intrusion:
24 trips --- Humans: 22
Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions or Winterfall Intrusion and Rampaging Giants:
20 trips --- Humans: 19
Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions and Winterfall Intrusion and Rampaging Giants:
15 trips --- Humans: 13

Revered -> Exalted (Same order as above)

84 trips --- Humans: 77
42 trips --- Humans: 39
35 trips --- Humans: 32
25 trips --- Humans: 23

Good luck all!

Comentario de Isen

There's an added bonus for Skinners and Leatherworkers in doing these quests. You will recieve tons of Thick and Rugged Leather, as well as several stacks of Warbear Leather and Chimera Leather. The Warbear Leather can be used to make some good feral druid armor, and the Chimera Leather is used in resistance gear.

Comentario de Isen

Is it a good idea to group up while doing this quest? Or does it have to be done solo?

Comentario de Thottbot

At Neutral this give approx. 1.6% of the faction bar (used a numerical reputation interface mod to see this). At this rate, the quest will need to be repeated 62 times to get to friendly.

However, to get the spiffy mount, the quest giver says he will sell only to the most exalted buyer (neutral > friendly > honored > revered > exalted).

Normally, faction accumulation rates slow down when you reach a higer rank. True, there are two higher quests obtainable as your faction goes up, but if the furbolg quests are any indication, it will give the same faction boost.

So how many times do you need to do these quests? 250? 500? 1000? More?

For that, the mount should outpace a griffon!

Comentario de Thottbot

Here's how it works...

You start Neutral and receive .0166% rep bonus for each quest turned in. The only quest available is the Frostsaber Provisions one where you have to collect meat from the Chimera and Bears. Half way through Neutral (exactly 30 quests), the NPC unlocks a second quest for you. This is the Winterfall Intrusion quest. 30 more of either quest will get you into Friendly.

Once you work your way through Friendly (.0083% rep bonus) and get to Honored (.00415% rep bonus), the NPC unlocks a third quest for you. This is the Giants quest in south Winterspring. You are required to kill only 8 of the lvl 59-60 elite giants but they're further away and most likely can not be soloed. There's really no point in taking the extra time and effort to do this one unless you want to try for some nicer items (Yes, they drop much nicer than the furbolg).

Each bar of reputation that you earn cuts the reputation bonus in half. 60 quests to get Friendly, 120 to get Honored, 240 to get revered. All-in-all, you'll have to do 420 of the quests to get ELIDGIBLE for the mount.

None of the quests offer a larger rep bonus upon turn in and none of the mobs offer rep bonus upon killing. The only way to get rep bonus is at quest turn in.

So if that isn't enough of a kick-in-the-pants, just think that you won't even be 1/2 done with the quest until you're 25% into Honored. :)

Most don't even start, a lot quit after a while, but I'm in it for the long haul. Cya on my new mount.

Comentario de Thottbot

Arem's post is only half of the story. You must get to exalted, which is another 420 quests that needs to be completed.

Comentario de Thottbot

Im still curious as to if its "free" or you have to buy it.. looked on a few other remarks about it some say you have to guy others say other wise and it seems asking a GM or blizzard rep doesn't help cause they don't answer you.. im thinking for such a crazy quest line of killing and rep gaining each quest that it would be free but blizzard has yet to shock me with some of the stuff they put in here as of yet. im currently working on it and knowing if it was free or not would really make me want to do it more or like wise. if anyone ever finds out or someone that has actually aquired one within this time i would like any info you have. ^^ thanks.

Comentario de Thottbot

Reputation works like this... 3000 rep in neutral, 6000 rep in friendly, 12000 rep in honored, and 21000 rep in revered. Now, when you start this, you can ONLY do the first quest, which is get 5 meat from the chims and the bears each(10 meat total). The meat are a drop rate, so you have to kill more than 10 total of course... depends on your luck. The second quest I think u get it at half neutral, and u get the same rep as the first and third quest... 50 rep. 55 if you are human. So to get the second quest, you need to do the first quest 1500/50 times which is 30 times. The second quest has you kill ursa and shamans which are NOT skinnable, but you will get BEYOND a lot of firewater which is cool. :) This is the quest everyone pretty much does because u can do it solo or in a group for the same rep. So expect to do this second quest (1500 + 6000 + 12000 + 21000)=40500rep/50rep= 810 times to get to exalted. Unless you are human, where it is 737 times. If you are a human you need to also get exalted with Darnassus though, which will involve a few hundred gold in runecloth, and unfortunately winterfall mobs don't drop that. Also, by killing winterfall mobs u get 5 rep with timbermaw furbs per normal kill and 25 for the boss normally. So if you actually do that, u should get 50 timber rep per quest run without the boss so your rep for both factions should go up about the same. However it depends, because u start less than neutral with the timber depending how busy you were in Felwood before that.

Comentario de Thottbot

1: this mount ***IS NOT FREE*** it is 800g if you're a sergeant, 900g if you are not.
2: If you are not a NE, you must also get exhalted with darnassus to learn tiger riding to use the mount, this guy WILL NOT teach you to ride it.

Decide for yourself if its worth the trouble

Comentario de Thottbot

I can say these things truthfully:

I am a night elf.

I get 50 rep points for turning in the 10 meat.

Over the last 12 turnins, the drop rate for a piece of meat averages between 6 to 7 kills.

Yesterday I turned in 3 times; ended up with 119 rugged leather, 39 chimura leather, 24 wearbear leather and 2 green items which I sold in AH for 9 gold.

I got the quest at level 58 and I am level 60 as of last week and all i've done is killed bears and chimuras.

Its tedious, but when I get to 1500 (should be by next week) I will let you know what happens to the quest.

For those who asked: he will not teach you to ride a saber, you have to go to Darnassas for that. That also includes getting rep points there.

Comentario de Thottbot

Im at 1400 of 3000. going from 900 to 1200 wasnt bad. I had a Great server day. meat was dropping almost every 3rd kill. I stopped at 1200, I ended up with 150 skins and made almost 70 gold selling and repairing items.

1200 to 1400 was a bit of a chore. I think I ended up killing 14 bears or chimura before the first meat dropped. I considered dropping the quest and starting it again because it was almost rediculous. Every bear I skinned was giveing me warbear something (sorry, cant rmeember which warbear fur it gives) again, I though wow..12 in a row now. Im looking for rugged leather, that sells the best. Took 4 hours to get enough to make 4 turn-ins. That was rough.

I will do another round probably Friday so my update next week will let everyone know what the quest does at 1500. I read one post stating it changes. Ill let you know.

sorry for the tease, but 4 hours of bears and chimura killings really tanked!

Comentario de Thottbot

I'm currently doing Frostsaber Provisions and Winterfall Intrusion (unlocked very recently) to gain reputation with Wintersaber Trainers.

I use the Frostsaber Provisions quest to get leather and use this for making Rugged Armor kits for the Darkmoon Faire turn-in, and I also kill a few Owls along the way for Vibrant Plumes (also Darkmoon Faire turn-in).

Now that furbolgs drop Runecloth (since Patch 1.9) you can theoretically use the second Wintersaber Trainers quest to earn Darnassus reputation if you need Tiger Riding, and collect the beads they drop for Timbermaw reputation at the same time.

So if you haven't already got Darnassus, Timbermaw and Darkmoon Faire reputation this quest and the second one offered by the Wintersaber Trainers are one way of building 4 reputations at the same time, albeit in a painstakingly repetitive manner.

Comentario de Thottbot

Thanks for the 4at once update. I didnt know about the Dark Moon fair turnins..

I made 1500 and as soon as I turned in that last bit of meat a 2nd quest is now available for rep points.

Winterfall Intrusion

Obtained at level 60 Alliance
Rivern Frostwind wants you to slay 5 Winterfall Shaman and 5 Winterfall Ursa.

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=5201/intrusión-nevada

Good thing is I can still do the meat quest (which yesterday I was averaging 1 drop ever 5 kills)

by far easier is killing the ursa and shaman's. I had a bit of competition after my 3rd turnin but I did 4 turnin's in a two hour period, vs 2 with the meat. the last turn in I did the meat too, which gave me 100 rep points.

I noticed killing the ursa and shamans my rep for the Timbermaw Hold was also going up. BONUS!

so take the advise from FantasyMeister in the above post.

you can do pretty well here.

Oh, just so you know, I had 4 Level 52-55 greens and 3 gold drop in 4 runs. I bet I made 7 gold from the junk they also dropped, which I sold. All told, not a bad day. Im going to add feathers and Ill make a few rugged patches too, since I got 64 rugged skins off the meat part of the quest yesterday.

Ill let you know when something changes.

Comentario de Thottbot

I quote:

by Keliahn

Last edit: 3.6 months ago 1: this mount ***IS NOT FREE*** it is 800g if you're a sergeant, 900g if you are not.

2: If you are not a NE, you must also get exhalted with darnassus to learn tiger riding to use the mount, this guy WILL NOT teach you to ride it.

Decide for yourself if its worth the trouble

Comentario de Thottbot

if people would read ..

Here's how it works...

You start Neutral and receive .0166% rep bonus for each quest turned in. The only quest available is the Frostsaber Provisions one where you have to collect meat from the Chimera and Bears. Half way through Neutral (exactly 30 quests), the NPC unlocks a second quest for you. This is the Winterfall Intrusion quest. 30 more of either quest will get you into Friendly.

Once you work your way through Friendly (.0083% rep bonus) and get to Honored (.00415% rep bonus), the NPC unlocks a third quest for you. This is the Giants quest in south Winterspring. You are required to kill only 8 of the lvl 59-60 elite giants but they're further away and most likely can not be soloed. There's really no point in taking the extra time and effort to do this one unless you want to try for some nicer items (Yes, they drop much nicer than the furbolg).

Each bar of reputation that you earn cuts the reputation bonus in half. 60 quests to get Friendly, 120 to get Honored, 240 to get revered. All-in-all, you'll have to do 420 of the quests to get ELIDGIBLE for the mount.

None of the quests offer a larger rep bonus upon turn in and none of the mobs offer rep bonus upon killing. The only way to get rep bonus is at quest turn in.

So if that isn't enough of a kick-in-the-pants, just think that you won't even be 1/2 done with the quest until you're 25% into Honored. :)

Most don't even start, a lot quit after a while, but I'm in it for the long haul. Cya on my new mount.

Comentario de Thottbot

I was bored the other day so I travel to WS because I noticed my friend is farming. He tells me what hes doin so I join him. Wow this is nice...5 meats for two types of mobs to be eligeable for a frostsaber mount. Then the reality hit me and I find out I have to do the same quests X number of times until I make the faction revered?

WTF? Are you kidding me? What clown at blizzard made up this fabulous idea? At least with the tier .5 quests you are in a dungeon most of the time and any undead killed can yield scourge stones. But to farm the same redundant quests over 60 times just to get the next part of the chain which eventually leads to the ABILITY to buy an epic mount? Im not feeling it.

The only exception to this rule would be its more special than a standard epic mount, slightly faster, summons faster , allows you to other abilities on it (like cast) or something. I mean why do this (other than for faction) when you can run Stratholme Scarlet Side get the chance for righteous orbs (which go for 50g+ on the AH) and get your money and just go buy an epic moount from the vendor?

I will say hats off and applause for anyone that has the tenacity to do this and then spend the money to buy this Frostsaber mount.

Comentario de Thottbot

I did one of these turn-ins today, and it gave me 75 rep as opposed to the usual 50, so I'm assuming this was changed as of the patch.

Comentario de Thottbot

I got this mount on my main and am currently working on the quest series again for my alt!

The mount is the only EPIC mount in game for alliance that only requires riding skill 75 (w/ the patch even the PVP mounts require a riding skill of 150)

and its cost is (or was) 90g for me..but since i had exalted darnassus rep i'd imagine the correct cost is 100g (if you don't have the discount associated w/ rep)

The fact that it only requires riding skill 75 DOES NOT appear to be a bug to me...but rather planning on Bliz's part to reward those who actually complete the rep grind!

(I completed it under the old rep of 50 per turn in on my main....only reason i'm considering doing again is because of the 50% increase in rep per turn in, i.e. going from 50 to 75, and the fact that my alt is human and will receive a bonus on top of that per turn in)

Indigomoon-Llane

Comentario de Thottbot

at this moment, 1,2 years after all the previous posts, i get 75 rep per quest turn in instead of 50, meaning that you only have to do the quests ( 2/3 out of 420 = ..) 280 times now, still an awefull lot of running around though :)

Comentario de Thottbot

Is it still 75 (see above post) or did they raise it?

Comentario de Thottbot

Ive started this myself. Currently on day 1 and i must say the meat drop rates on the first quest isnt all that great. So it will take me a while to get to the next quest after returning 30 of the first one. But i shall stick with it!

On and Locations for people who wanted them.

Shardtooth and Chillwind can be found at 56,20. All the was North and South. Until you hit everlook of course.

Wish me luck ;p

Comentario de Thottbot

So, after a bucket load of “No Life” comments from guild members I finally decided to accept the first quest for this bad boy.

On my first go I got all 5 Shardtooth meat simultaneously, beginner’s luck I found and from then on it took me 25-30 minutes to gather all 10 pieces of meat.

When I handed in the pieces of meat I was expecting a low pathetic boost in reputation, which I was prepared for but instead I got 250 rep as a Night Elf. So to confirm, yes, since the new patch (I presume) the reputation gain has been boosted.

So, to do the math;
Neutral to Friendly:
3000 ÷ 250 = 12 (You need to do the quest 12 times to get to Friendly)
12 × 30 (Let’s just put 30 as an average of time, dismissing other factors, i.e. level, class) = 360 minutes
So that’s roughly about 6 hours in total.

I haven’t gone past Friendly yet to know the rep gain from then on but I’m sure that’s approximately the amount of time needed to get to Friendly.

Of course there is the possibility that different races get different amounts of rep, so for Night Elves that’s a rough guide.

For all non-skinners who won't get any benefits from farming these mobs, try and loot everything that drops (if you have the bag space) most likely those items will stack up and so will the money if you vendor them.

Best place to farm is near coords 56,21.

Comentario de Thottbot

I've just started doing this and it doesn't seem too hard. Yes, there sometimes aren't enough chimeras in a small area since their drop rate seems to be lower, but I'd say this will be a lot easier than back when the people were saying you had to be exalted with Darnassus or be a night elf to buy tiger riding, and then the quests for Rivern only gave 50 reputation points. To those who want this mount, just keep persisting and after doing this one twelve times you'll get the much easier Winterfall Intruders quest.

Comentario de Thottbot

Ok, i just started this.....then i decided to read up on it, and lord have mercy on me....have decided to do it in full. i got 250 rep on first turn in and i hope to get that much after. ill let yall know when i get it. if anyone wants to help my name is Ularde on Dragonmaw

Comentario de Thottbot

im nelf druid, took me 6 hours to get to friendly! now im 2k in honored... its driving me crazy already. Hope this bloody mount is worth my time!

Comentario de Thottbot

Yo, new pic.

Comentario de Thottbot

I'm a level 64 night elf and started this quest as a level 62. I started exactly one week ago from this morning and I'm half way through revered already. No life right, well I was expecting to have no life but have been keeping tabs on how many quests I have actually done and it seems that two years ago you guys all got screwed. I have done a total of 113 quests of all three that he gives and I only have 9,800 more rep to go which if you break that down that's not even 200 quests for this mount anymore! Guess I did this at the right time. Although, the meat drops could be a little less stingy!

Comentario de Thottbot

what are the price for the mount then ?

some say 800-900g and some from server says 30-50g :S

Comentario de Thottbot

if im correct,... when u get this mount u dont need the (150) riding training... if u already have the (75) riding training... this is correct....?

Comentario de Allakhazam

A quick note for those who have done the rep grind which I lovingly refered to as the ECK (Endless Cycle of Killing) to my friends and guild members who shook their heads at me and offered me money just to buy a elite mount and training.

Rather than kill the quest giver and his cat in frustration (I have seen this happen at least twice) as it seems that nothing has changed when you have got your rep up. You have done ALL this work FOR NOTHING ! ARRGHHH I WILL KILL YOU ! and proceed to do just that. (I must admit I now understood their frustration)

However after completing 1 quest more to ensure that I had maxed out my rep I noticed that the dialogue box now had a scroll bar and if you scroll down you will see a Purchase bag. Ready to purchase your frostsaber Mount(and sell your accumalted Junk and greens)

Cheers Astlea Exlies of SWG

Never Give UP NEVER SURRENDER :D

Comentario de Allakhazam

wow. this quest is So not worth it.

Comentario de Allakhazam

I won't argue that this farming gets very tiresome. But at least the bears and chimera are the chillwinds are the only aggressive beasts in the farming ares. And the skinning is very good. Sure, I'd rather take my 60 hunter to quest in outland, but since I don't have the dosh to buy my epic right now, hacking at these guys and getting the exp doesn't seem so bad.

Of course, I've only done the quest twice so far...

Comentario de Allakhazam

Until a recent patch (2 patches ago), there was a bug that allowed people with NO faction to purchase the mount for 1000g. (increased price due to no faction discount)

This is a fact, I know of people who did this, and they have not had their tigers taken away after the bug was fixed.

It is my belief that nearly every person who riding a wintersaber got it through this bug, I'm sure there are a few that actually took the time to farm the faction (well over a month of farming an average of 12 hours/day), but I think the legitimate ones are very rare...

Comentario de Allakhazam

what is req lvl to start this quest?

Comentario de Allakhazam

I think the provisions quest is slightly bugged...or Blizz is evil...or I'm crazy. The following has happened about 20 times now. I complete the Winterfall Intrusion and the meat provisions gathering quests and run all the way to the trainer at the top of Frostsaber rock. When I got there, I tried to turn in both quests, but somehow some of the meat I'd gathered was missing. I noticed that this happened when the blue and white striped Pridewatcher had attacked me at the base of Frostsaber rock. Was he stealing some of the meat I'd gathered? The first few times this happened, I just thought I'd made a mistake and run back too soon, but then I really started paying attention to make sure I had all the provisions gathered, and still sometimes I'd be missing meat at the top of the rock.

Has this happened to you?

Comentario de Allakhazam

So Draenei cant use this mount?

Comentario de Allakhazam

What's the secret to this task? Grab a snack, put on your favorite list of songs, and get ready for a long long LONG time of farming. Best to go for the Chillwinds first, then the shardtooths. I found it less mind-numbing.

Oh, and being higher lvl helps too.

Edited, Mar 1st 2008 2:21pm by FerrumKallen

Comentario de Allakhazam

I've been pulling my info off Thottbot for this particular grind. Last night, like the other Draenei who posted, I hit exalted and discovered I could not buy the mount.

I called a GM. After 45 minutes of waiting, someone closed my ticket without talking with me.

So I opened another ticket. I was answered by a very rude GM who told me "Too bad, you should research better and see if you met your requirements. I can't check for you." He then gave me the WoW forums address, then logged.

After Googling today I found this thread and saw the similar Draenei complaint. It took me a month of hard grinding to do this and hit Exalted. Needless to say I'm deeply disappointed.

Comentario de Allakhazam

I have officially given up. This is such a nasty long grind, for such a useless item, that I have no choice but to throw in the towel.

Frankly, while I do believe some things should be very difficult to obtain, this is just insane. Even with doing all three major repeatables each time (Frostsaber Provisions, Rampaging Giants, and Winterfall Intrusion), you're only earning 225 rep per turn in. The real pisser is, you don't get the second two quests right away.

Winterfall Intrusion only becomes available when you hit 1500/3000 Neutral faction, and Rampaging Giants doesn't become available until you hit Honored.

So, for the first 1500 rep, be prepared to do 20 quest runs. After that, assuming you do both Frostsaber Provisions and Winterfall Intrusion each time, you're going to make 50 runs to get to Honored. From there, doing all three quests each time means doing 147 runs of Frostsaber Provisions, Winterfall Intrusion, and Rampaging Giants.

Totals for those who're still interested:

217 runs of Frostsaber Provisions (which means, given the apparent 25% droprate I seem to be getting, means killing about 4,400 each of Elder Shardtooths and Chillwind Ravagers. Warning: This is an estimate, actual kills needed will vary greatly.)

197 runs of Winterfall Intrusion (Killing 5 Winterfall Shaman and 5 Winterfall Ursa each time, for a total of 1,970 kills.)

147 runs of Rampaging Giants(Killing 4 Frostmaul Giants and 4 Frostmaul Preservers each time, for a total of 1,176 kills on lv 55-60 Elites.)

That's a rough sum total of 11,946 mobs to kill, 217 total trips to and from Rivern Frostwind, 42,000 rep points, and Elune knows how many hours wasted, all for a purple mount.

Not. Worth. It.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Has this mount changed with the patch? does it now have armor? I hope i havent been wasting my time doing this to get a unarmored cat. If this cat is armored im going to pull my hair out!

Comentario de Allakhazam

I went to the sight where the quest giver is and the spot where he should have been was emoty he wasn't anywhere around. Might be a bug due to the expansion, anyone else have the same problem. I just want to improve my rep.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Ok, first off, be prepared for a long, long grind to be able to purchace this mount. If you're already interested in getting this mount, you probably have your own reasons...whether you want it to look cool to everybody else, or just feel (like myself) that this is the only Epic saber mount that doesn't look cheesy as hell with the ridiculous armor and costume jewelry looking crystals on it. Not only that, but this is one of the few (if not the only) Epic mount that requires only a 75 riding skill. Yes, that's right..instead of having to pay the price of 150 riding skill and the price of an epic mount...you only have to pay for the mount (provided of course that you already have purchased the training for the normal lvl 40 mount)

The journey starts with Rivern Frostwind who is hanging out on top of frostsaber rock, with his pet frostsaber. The first quest he gives you is this one, where you must get 5 each chillwind and shardtooth meat. Make sure you grind the Chillwind Ravagers, and Elder Shardtooths...located in the northeast of Winterspring for the meat. Droprate on these averages between 20% and 50% allowing for completion of each turn in to take between 10-20 mins each, and giving you 75 rep.

Around halfway through Neutral, you will be able to pick up the next quest "Winterfall Intrusion", and I would reccomend sticking with this quest for the remainder of the grind. And here's why...

1. This quest requires you to kill Winterfall Furbolgs, which will also increase your Timbermaw rep

2. It's easier than the next quest in the chain, but still gives you the same rep

I would also reccomend getting a group together to do this quest...if for nothing more than to prevent being bored to tears lol

So, how long of a grind is it? Well....lets just say you better really really want this mount.

Each quest turn in gives you 75 rep, in the opening text he tells you, you must be exaulted in order for him to sell you the mount, and you start off at 0 rep into neutral.

so...

3000 (neutral) +
6000 (friendly) +
12000 (honored) +
21000 (Revered)
-----------------
42000 total reputation

If you're not human (if so you get about 82.5 rep per quest)it would take you a total of 560 turn-ins to go from neutral to exalted. If you do this quest 20 times (to get to halfway through neutral) that means you have to do "Winterfall Intrusion" 540 times to get to exalted.

So yeah, its going to be a chore...but like all chores is more fun doing with friends, and some good music. Both of these I reccomend highly, unless you have alot more determination than I. lol

Comentario de Allakhazam

Zero xp, no reward, and he offers the quest again. Looks like it's broken to me. :(

Comentario de Allakhazam

NE only though...if you look at the reins (after doing the quest 5 billion times if it shows up at vender) it requires tiger riding(1). Good luck getting that if your not a NE for the time being, I think it's impossible to learn as you can't get revered.

Just an FYI for all you wouldbe gnomes, dwarfs and humans trying to get this mount.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Couple-three reasons.

(1) The purple and white cat looks hella cool.
(2) I wrote an AddOn that says a random quotation when you mount, and supposedly it will choose from different lists for different mounts. Now, I could just go to Merethil Harbor and get another horse. But what fun is that?
(3) As a Blacksmith, I need to get my rep up with Timbermaw Hold to purchase their recipes. The second quest means I can build rep in two areas at once.

I was a little disenheartened to learn that the meat (probably) wonb't drop after you achieve the quest goals; the Timbermaw turn-in quests allow you to stockpile feathers and beads and turn them in en masse. But, unless they change it in 2.1.0, that just means that no one else will get one easily. I can take a liittle (a lot of) grinding to get something cool, especially when I get XP, a few greens, and rep out of it.

Comentario de Allakhazam

confirmed 58.21 and surrounding areas

Comentario de Allakhazam

Well, I just half an hour ago reached Exalted with the faction.

However, I discovered that because I am a Draenei I can't buy the mount. And yes, this information came from a GM, who told me the bug is being fixed in the next patch, and that the new races not being able to do a lot of stuff the others can is top priority.

I did two more turn ins before I was answered by the GM, and he also told me that just being Exalted should be enough, meaning there shouldn't be any need to get the Exalted rank to maximum.

I'm a little annoyed heh, after all the constant weeks of grinding, and having to stop because of the Easter school holidays and the kids all over the game for two weeks, even at 3am in the morning (I tried to get things done then), I now can't get the mount that is mine.

I was hoping I could say I'm the first person to get the mount on the new Anachronos (European) server (without transferring that is).

I might as well max out the reputation rank while I wait.

Mortanius (Theonar, Draenei Shaman, on Anachronos).

Comentario de Allakhazam

This is an INSANE quest... 45 kills not one peice of meat dropped. with needing 5 per turn in, and close to 100 turn in's. *pulls out hair*

Comentario de Allakhazam

This quest begins with the NPC at the top of Frostsaber rock, the northernmost tip of Winterspring. You MUST be at least 58 to begin this quest. Your faction begins at 0 Neutral with him, and the purpose of the quest is to get exalted with the Wintersaber Trainers in order to purchase a mount not available in Darnassus. This mount is a purple and white striped sabercat. Tiger Riding is needed to ride this mount, which means you must be either a Night Elf, or have Exalted faction with Darnassus and purchase the tiger riding ability.

This is the first of a chain of quests available, and all continue to be available even after reaching the different reputation stages.

For Frostsaber provisions, the best place to farm is just south and east of the frostsaber area, just down the eastern hill from the road. 5 Meats from Chillwind, 5 meats from shardtooth bears. However, the meat can be gotten from any chimaera or bear in Winterspring. Each turn in gains 50 reputation.

For Winterfall Intrustion, which begins at exactly halfway into Neutral faction, which is 1500 of 3000 reputation. The best place to do this quest is in the Winterfall Village, east of Everlook. Each quest turn in gains 50 reputation.

The next stage of the series, Rampaging Giants, begins at honored reputation. It asks you to kill 8 Giants that are at the southern end of winterspring, in the Frostwhisper Gorge area. These giants are level 59 and 60 elite. The quest asks for 4 Frostmaul Giants, and 4 Frostmual Preservers to be killed. A group of 2 or more will be nice, and the trip will be long. Many who have attained exalted faction on my server have skipped this quest as each turn in still only yields 50 reputation, and is double the distance to travel. Others opted to go in a group and kill the giants, then sweep through the winterfall village thus completing that quest as well, yielding 100 reputation per run in doing both quests.

At Revered faction, a level 40 ridable mount is available for 90g. This is NOT the epic speed mount. Once Exalted faction is reached, as it stands currently, the Epic saber you can purchas is 900g, just like all other epic mounts. This quest has become mostly for status instead of being a cheaper option for an epic mount.

Edited, Wed Nov 2 15:20:43 2005

Comentario de Allakhazam

sorry, the drop rate is better than 20%. I did the quest 3 times in a hour last night. It may have something to do with where you are grinding for the meat drops. I'm doing it to the east of the frostsaber rock where the elder bears are. I tried the area just to the south of everlook and the drop rate was lower.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Does this quest work similar to other quests in the drops?

For instance, in other quests, even if you've reached the amount you need, the quest item continues to drop until you actually turn in the quest.

If I have 5 and 5, but continue to kill bears and chillwinds, will the meat continue to drop?

If this is the case, you don't need to go back after each set of 5. You can continue to farm, and once you've got 100 of each or so, turn them in (2 sets of 5) one quest set at at time.

Possible? Plausible? Incorrect?

Comentario de Allakhazam

strange droprate...
at allakhazam and thottbot theres a ~20% droprate for both kind of meat.. but i need around 100 kills each run for everything.. last run took 150 kills.. thats horrible :(

Comentario de Allakhazam

I'm too cheap to pay for epic mount, so I decided to grind for the mount. I tried before with my pre TBC 60 human warrior awhile back, but got bored and quit after 1 day of grinding.
This time I am grinding for my 65 draenei shaman. I have couple of incentive for grinding this time.
1. I can skin for money.
2. Mob level 57+ still gives me some experience, so it is not a total waste of time.
Will keep post updated.

4-15-2007
I started the grind and. I do about 3 to 4 turn in per hour. Some times the drop rate is pretty bad. It is been 4 hrs and I'm 900/3000 into neutral.
4-16-2007
I though killing furblog would be faster, but too many people farm there. That and getting gank from horde.
4-20-2007
didn't grind much, but half way into friendly. I find doing both quests not a good idea. I can do winterfall intrusion in 8 mins, thats from killing 5 shamans 5 ursa and turn it in then hearth back. I don't have mount, I use ghost wolf with GM boot that gives me total of 55% travel speed. Collecting meat takes me 15-20 mins average. For a shaman sticking with winterfall intrustion and using both hearth stones is better in long run.

Edited, Apr 17th 2007 12:17am by okiedookie

Edited, Apr 21st 2007 2:43am by okiedookie

Comentario de Allakhazam

Started my own grind today, lv61 Hunter. I waited until I was 61, simply because I can round up and kill 3-4 lv55-59 mobs much faster.

Droprates for me are about 50% or thereabouts. Not abysmal, but not fantastic, either.

A couple of bonuses for doing this grind: I'm a LWer, so I'm getting all manner of good leathers & hides. So far, at 150/3000 rep, I've also gotten: 19x , 47x , 5x , 9x , and an .

This has already been profitable, so getting the mount will just be the icing on the cake. I haven't seen anyone with one on my server, either (Trollbane US), so here's to hoping I'm the first.

Comentario de Allakhazam

So... Blizzard encourages farming. :)

Comentario de Allakhazam

The quest raises your reputation with wintersaber trainers.

Notice he says, " i won't just sell the mount to anyone."

Presumeably this is a level 60 mount reputation raising line, for "Reins of the Winterspring Frostsaber."

http://www.thottbot.org/beta.cgi?i=29884

It must be done A LOT to get rep high enough. If I remember right it is a sizeable discount over the level 60 mount price, like half. At least one player, a gnome, got this in beta.

Currently this would be the only way for a non night elf to ride a cat mount, since you can't get exhalted to the main city factions. The quest is alliance only.

Evidently no one has completed the faction raising enough to get the mount in final retail, either here or on thottbot.

Edited, Thu Jan 20 05:15:10 2005

Comentario de Allakhazam

sry double post

Edited, Mon Apr 4 18:50:37 2005

Comentario de Allakhazam

I've just started this one. Looks to take a while. I've already learned two things that I haven't seen written in the forums.

The first thing I learned, is that if it weren't for the leather, this would be a giant waste of time. If I didn't have 300 skinning, I don't think I'd bother with this monumental grind. I'm a level 60 Shadowpriest and the Frostsabers aggro on me from far away. So far I've never been able to go through here without pulling at least eight, sometimes as many as fifteen Frostsabers. The first time I tried to turn in the provisions quest, I used the advice of many forum posts and just tried to ride quickly through. After pulling about seven tigers, I was dazed off my mount and had seven lvl 59 and 60 Frostsabers ripping me apart. I lived, but it was close. I had about 3 health left. Now, when I go in, I walk. And if a tiger aggros on me I kill it. No running, no riding, just a remorseless shower of shadow damage on these very aggressive tigers.

I can't wait to get the next quest level in this grind, when I'll be able to kill the winterfall firbolgs for faction with Frostsaber trainers. So the next thing I learned was to do both of these faction quests before returning to the trainers. Every forum post here on Allakazam, also on Throtbot etc., says to only do the Provisions Quest until you can do the Winterfall Firbolgs, then to just do the Winterfall quest. That's dumb!

From Frostsaber Rock, I go East SE (about 4:00 O'Clock on the map) and kill off all the Elder Shardtooths, and the Chillwind Chimaeras. They are all grouped together, pretty close to the quest turn in point. This takes about 4 kills per meat. That's approximately 40 kills. Since they are all level 57 to 60 mobs, at level 60 I get pretty good xp for doing this. I also get lots of leather, and a chance at some decent drops. Once I get to the next stage of faction quest in Winterfall Village, I'll collect my meat, as above, then kill my Firbolgs in Winterfall, then head back to Frostsaber Trainer to turn in both quests. This way, I only have to battle my way through the tigers twice to get 166 faction points.

I imagine, that once I get the third quest, I'll be about lvl 62, and I'll be able to solo the third faction quest, so by then I'll be turning in 3 quests per run. Which is 249 to 250 faction points per run. I'll also be making a lot in AH by selling lots of Rugged Leather. Unfortunately, Frostsaber Leather, Chimaera Leather, and Warbear leather is not at all in demand in my realm's AH. Other than that though, this is a good low 60s grinding quest if you have skinning and if you're willing to stick with it for a cool mount.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Oops, sorry for the double post.

Comentario de Allakhazam

As a Nightelf it took me 460 turn in sets to get the proper faction for the reins. Not a large faction boost at all with each turn in =(

There were/are 2 gnomes working on this as well, on my server, one of which already has the Darnassian faction needed and the tiger riding skill.

Comentario de Allakhazam

hi. I can't find the starting npc at the locations marked on the map. an exact loc or any other hint would be great!

Comentario de Allakhazam

This is the amount of rep you need in order to gain exalted, which is what you need to buy your mount…

3000 (neutral) + 6000 (friendly) +
12000 (honored) +
21000 (Revered)
-----------------
42000 total reputation

● So at 250 rep per turn in (keeping in mind that you can pick up the next quest halfway through neutral.) you must do the first quest 6 times in order to pick up the next quest.
● Halfway through neutral you get the next quest. Each quest gives 250 rep. If you do each quest then turn them in, that comes to 500 rep. You must do these two quests 3 times to reach friendly.
● To get through friendly you must do these two quests again 12 times to reach honored, at which time you can pick up the third quest (which gives 350 rep on turn in)
● To get through honored, you can now do all three quests then take them for turn in, giving you 850 rep per turn in. You must do all three quests 15 times to reached revered.
● To get through revered (and reach exalted! Our goal!) You must do all three quests 25 times.

So in total, you will be making 61 runs to the quest giver.
You will be completing Frostsaber Provisions 61 times.
You will be completing Winterfall Intrusion 58 times.
You will be completing Rampaging Giants 40 times.

For a total of about 160 quests and 80 gold for this mount. (Not to mention you only need 75 riding training, yes you will have to buy the 150 eventually for you to get the flying mount, but still, pretty cool). Not at all bad considering pre BC you got 75 rep per turn in for each quest.

I have officially given up. This is such a nasty long grind, for such a useless item, that I have no choice but to throw in the towel.

Frankly, while I do believe some things should be very difficult to obtain, this is just insane. Even with doing all three major repeatables each time (Frostsaber Provisions, Rampaging Giants, and Winterfall Intrusion), you're only earning 225 rep per turn in. The real pisser is, you don't get the second two quests right away.

Winterfall Intrusion only becomes available when you hit 1500/3000 Neutral faction, and Rampaging Giants doesn't become available until you hit Honored.

So, for the first 1500 rep, be prepared to do 20 quest runs. After that, assuming you do both Frostsaber Provisions and Winterfall Intrusion each time, you're going to make 50 runs to get to Honored. From there, doing all three quests each time means doing 147 runs of Frostsaber Provisions, Winterfall Intrusion, and Rampaging Giants.

Totals for those who're still interested:

217 runs of Frostsaber Provisions (which means, given the apparent 25% droprate I seem to be getting, means killing about 4,400 each of Elder Shardtooths and Chillwind Ravagers. Warning: This is an estimate, actual kills needed will vary greatly.)

197 runs of Winterfall Intrusion (Killing 5 Winterfall Shaman and 5 Winterfall Ursa each time, for a total of 1,970 kills.)

147 runs of Rampaging Giants(Killing 4 Frostmaul Giants and 4 Frostmaul Preservers each time, for a total of 1,176 kills on lv 55-60 Elites.)

That's a rough sum total of 11,946 mobs to kill, 217 total trips to and from Rivern Frostwind, 42,000 rep points, and Elune knows how many hours wasted, all for a purple mount.

Not. Worth. It.

Comentario de Allakhazam

I am on the quest right now and I was wondering as to what the mount would look like,is it like the one that is standing next to the dude?
If so,I think hey why not get the exp for fighting in the zone,although it sucks that you dont get any exp turn in reward.But the thing is,hey Im 59 might as well fight out there and get some exp and possibly a nice looking mount in the end.
Who knows?might be the envy of my friend LOL

Comentario de Allakhazam

I'm going to be working on this Mount soon. To begin the quest is lvl 60 Right? so bout 3 more lvl's. I have friend from my guild that's working on this quest to get the Mount, I think that mount is worth it, It's a really Pretty Frostsaber and Rare. I haven't seen anybody with it on our server yet. For those that say this mount isn't worth the trouble, In some minds no and some other yes. To me it is, I can grind on crap for ever and not get tired of fed up with. From lvl 40 to lvl 44 I grinded on turtles in Tanrais. I plan on doing a lot of grinding to get certain things. At lvl 60 this Mount will be the first. Then some time between lvl 60 and 70 I'm going be working to get the Teir 5 Destroyer Battlegear Armor, and The Gressil, Dawn of ruin and Talon of Azshara Sword's. It Well take me a long time to get them, but i don't care I want them so I will spend the time doing it. You have to have the want and urge to get things. IF you can't work to get something you want then you have no bussiness wanting it.

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wintersabre trainers rep...

Comentario de Allakhazam

this was bugged for me on 10/30/05. i did the provisions quest. when i did the turn in, it said FrostSaber Provisions completed. Then, the next quest was the same Provisions quest again (bear and chiamera meat)

Comentario de Allakhazam

So the quest isn't worth it. Okay, stop doing it. Don't whine that Blizzard should make it easier. The Wintersaber Mount is a status quest. At level 60, what else have you got better to do than BG or raiding?

Players spend hours and hours, day after day, raiding to get Tier 2+ epic pieces. Why? Because it makes you uber. Because they look hella cool. Because you want your character to be AWESOME.

Hey look! Blizzard made a rare mount quest that's just as annoying to do as raiding. For those of you out there that care about having a cool lookin' character, here you go. For those that don't? Buy a regular mount. <smiles>

Comentario de Allakhazam

From the first time I went into Winterspring and my dad told me about the Frostsaber quest for the mount, I've wanted to obtain it. And I will....

I played EverQuest for nearly 6 years and with patience, help from friends and guildmates, and a goodly portion of luck, I finally obtained my Staff of Phenominal Power (Wizard Epic 2.0). Its an EPIC. They're supposed to take time and effort to obtain.

So, after leaving EQ and coming to WoW I find that I once again I will probably be involved in obtaining some kind of EPIC item. As of this moment, I'm still not sure what constitutes and EPIC in WoW. I've heard reference of one thing after another being EPIC. This mount included. So I know that I'm in for a long and tiring adventure for something others say isn't worth the trouble. All I can say is, Thanks for staying out of my way and making it that much easier for me.

Aeliandra 60.9 Night Elf Rogue (at the time of this post)

*Epics aren't for the weak of mind, body, and/or soul*

Comentario de Allakhazam

58,14 (east of questgiver)

Drop rates are.... inconsistent at best. sometimes I would kill 5-10 mobs and be done, other times it was a 45 min grind.

70 lock, bt gear.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Like everyone else, I still have a life to run, and not a whole lot of time to be playing fetch for this NPC's quest. So until they come up with a better way of obtaining this mount, you might as well just get a regular mount.
Yea, yea, its different, but hey, I'm just expressing my feelings that this aint really that worth the time unless I had the ability to kill mobs in one hit.
If they give this NPC other options of turning in difffernt meats, or better rep rewards, then I might reconsider.

Comentario de Allakhazam

WOW, two months later and I'm finally approaching exalted. 7000 more rep to go. I found out some good news. Just doing this quest took me from level 60 to level 66--with a few instance runs here and there--those tigers don't aggro nearly so bad once you hit about 63. So, once you get to that level, you can ride through straight to the rock, and usually make it without being dazed off your mount. After putting nearly 400 rugged leathers up for auction, I can now afford an epic mount anyway, but I'm not going to--and it's hard, because I could finish this quest that much sooner. I'm not going to shell out 700 gold when I can wait another week and get my mount with only apprentice riding skill.

That's one of the best things about this quest. One day I'll probably want a flying mount, and then I'll have to shell out for journeyman skill before I can get the epic riding necessary for flying mount, but by the time I'm level 70, 700 gold probably won't be that big a deal anyway.

The hardest part of the quest now, is competing with all the people farming faction in Winterfall Village for the Winterspring Firbolgs. I usually ask to join a party who're farming the area, but often they already have a full group. So, I get what I can then go kill Frostmaul Giants, and come back to get what I missed in the first pass through Winterfall Village.

I've killed Grizzlepaw a few times and always get a decent green to auction. I also usually kill the cheif, but he's never dropped anything valuable.

This has been one long grind. I really don't know how anybody could stand to do this pre-BC when the quest only gave 50 reputation. Luckily I'm human, so get 82.5 rep per turn in, but it's still taken forever.

I want to be one of the very few people riding an epic mount with only apprentice riding. I still haven't seen anyone on my server (Andorhal) riding one, although there have to be some.

Comentario de Allakhazam

It's nice. The whole thing was a bit anticlimactic. So I'm riding around on my Blue tiger with purple stripes, expecting amazed whispers of where did you get that etc. Nothing so far.

Comentario de Allakhazam

I am half way threw Revered and looking forward to getting the epic mount.. i started at lvl 60 and now 66.. just wanted to know if they changed when you can buy the lvl 40 mount in some of the posting below they said at revered he would sell a lvl 40 mount and i have not seen it for sell.. i don't want it, i want the epic mount.. i am turning in all 3 quest at a time and it is better then turning in just 2.Good Luck to everyone that is on this Quest...

Comentario de wowZhenek

Absolutely disgusting quest. Like, to be fair, ye, to be fair, this is arguably the worst part of the entire grind. Having to do it 30 times as a non-human is an absolute torture. Screw the large bear bones ....

Comentario de iteate

As of 1.11.2019 I have finished the greatest grind in my life. This grind took me 22 days to complete, 14 of those were in game.

So what did I do? I finished this grind by doing ONLY Frostsaber provisions. Why? Well you can't call that mount exactly your own if you did the grind with a group so i decided to do it solo. So there I was a level 58 human mage unknowing that this grind was going to be the longest one that i have ever done.

As was reaching that 1500/3000 point I thought about going into a group but then I started to feel guilty. I didn't want to feel like I was being boosted, I felt that the grind was supposed to be hard and that is surely was for me. At 1500 rep I tried the winterfall intrusion quest which was supposed to be the "fastest" quest, well it turns out that this is not the fastest quest out there if you are doing this solo so i continued my meat quests. Also i did not aoe grind because my talents were not right for that.

At 4000/6000 I saw in wowhead that you can collect these e'kos from the mobs if you do series of quests so i did those and started gaining e'kos

Each quest took me 10-45 minutes to complete and it was at neutral that i realized the full scale of grind that i was going into. I told myself that I WILL get this mount before p2 and I will not leave winterspring before that. I made myself rep goals so that each day i would grind 1650 reputation that would take me around 12 hours to complete and there would be no exceptions to that.

Did I mention that i didn't have a mount for the whole grind. I really really hate horses and I was a human. I got my Darnassus reputation to Exhalted at 4400/21000 with the money from the grays, greens and blues i vendored. I bought the tiger riding but i did not buy the mount because for me the wintersaber reputation was so close that it would have been waste of money so i continued without a mount.

At 9910/21000 I realized that I really should have taken skinning for this but at that point it was too late so i decided not to get it since i had valuable recipes on my enchanting and tailoring. At 19440/21000 I noticed that I will not be able to purchase the mount as soon as my reputation reaches exhalted.

In total I killed 19675 mobs in the meat quest area, 5 Winterfall Shaman and 5 Winterfall Ursa. Every kill was uploaded to wowhead database. from the vendor items i got around 1966g, Darnassus reputation took 1300g from that so i was left with 666g so i still have to grind money for the mount. With skinning total money from this would have been around 3736g with Firemaw-EU market prices.

Now you are probably wondering what loot did i get. I listed every notable drop down below
1x Ojo de Llama
1x Armadura Caminasueños
1x Orbe de engaño
2x Fajín serpentino
2x El Apuñalador de Sombrapiés
1x Antorcha de Austen
1x Mochila de viajero
2x Destripador demonio
4x Mochila de oficial
765x E'ko Orvallo
790x E'ko Dentoesquirla
and a full glorious set with extra set of pants

I did not sell those e'kos because they were going to me and my friends to use in raids because now I had a lifetime supply of those :D

IF i had skinning this would be the minimum leather amount.
lets say that I killed 50/50 of Chillwind ravager and Elder shardtooth you would skin about.

12788 Cuero basto
1475 Cuero grueso
983 Pellejo basto
4033 Cuero quimérico
1967 Cuero de oso de guerra

Note that these calculations are not including the change to get multiple skins from single mob so those numbers will be higher.

I will tell you some tips and tricks here if you are crazy enough to try this.
- TAKE SKINNING. You will spend around 16 hours only skinning but the gold you get from this will be substantially higher.
- Bind your hearthstone to Everlook. When your bags are full you can hearthstone to a vendor and continue from there.
- Set yourself reputation goals for every day. This helped me a lot because i wanted to get this mount before p2 so i HAD to grind every day.
- A mount will not help you that much but it will get you to your destination faster.
- This grind will test your patience and your discipline heavily so be prepared for that.
-do your research before you go into this. I made the mistake by going in blind and I lost a lot.

This grind will not give you any good loot..yes i got an epic but those drop rates are so low that you should go in with the mindset that you wont get an epic.
only thing that get me going was that deadline that i made for myself. I respect everyone who got the mount but i truly respect anyone who did this grind alone.

If you ever see a mage named iteate on Firemaw-EU please remember that I did this grind the hardcore way so you don't have to.

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Recoge 5 carnes de Dentoesquirla y 5 carnes de Orvallo para Rivern Ventogélido de Cuna del Invierno.

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