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Kommentar von 301

Won this last night in BWL (mage). Stack it together with Master Dragonslayer's Orb, and you're packing ALOT of +dmg. This is the one-hander with the highest +dmg you can get in BWL.

Only drawback is perhaps it has neither +to hit or +crit. The lack of spirit isn't too bad, as the mp/5 makes up for some of it. Staff of the Shadow Flame is still a better overall weapon. But this isn't far from it.

Just too bad it looks so ugly!

Kommentar von 1857

I'd say that this is definatly a warlock/shaman weapon. All though it does not have a high amount of stamina, the straight up +dmg allows the affliction warlock to do the most damage where crit (and most hit due to talents) are almost useless. This is good for the caster/healer shaman also, but I do not have a shaman and can't really comment on them.

Kommentar von 2672

It's also very nice for a druid, many of whom use a Hexxar/Lifegiver combo, you lose 1 crit for more +heal (and its +damage even), 8 int, 1 stam as well as the 4/5.

Kommentar von evoker

A very good weapon for both warlocks and mages. This combined with Master Dragonslayer's ORb (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=19366) or the offhand from Moam in AQ20. I would surely make use of it on my shaman if I had access to it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

If you're killing Chromaggus, you're close to Nefarian, and Nefarian drops a mace that you can get that's better than this.

Kommentar von Thottbot

DoTs are indeed affected by +spell damages.

I unequipped all of my armor and cast Rank 1 Corruption on a dire mottled boar. I then ran from combat, equipped several basic +shadow and +spell damage equipments, and cast corruption on the same boar.
The damage was increased significantly. While each tic obviously doesn't get the full effect, the overall damage through the entire duration had increased to the full effect.
It also affected the damage of my Drain Soul, which is channeled. Immolate also benefits in direct damage and DoT, but doesn't get double the effect.

In short: Mage priority = Warlock priority. Both should be given an equal chance.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Yes, obviously +damage affects DoT's. But not by as much as direct damage spells, DPS-wise.

I know this isn't a huge point but some idiots here are talking about how it's better for DoT's because they have a longer spell length, and that's just dumb.

The damage modifier applies proportionately to pre-talent spell length, with 100% at 3.5s.

Assume you have +1000 spell damage, which is only possible with incredible gear, ToEP and the ZG charm, but it makes the math easy. Then, one corruption does roughly 1700 damage over 18s, basically an additional 50 or so DPS.

A shadowbolt, however, does an addition 850 damage over 2.5s, or an additional ~340 DPS. Base shadowbolt DPS is only 200.

Because of the proportions of +damage, any spell that takes 3.5s or fewer to cast will recieve the full DPS benefit of +damage. Any spell longer than 3.5 seconds will recieve less DPS benefit the longer it gets. This is why no mage should ever use arcane missiles unless the target is immune to their elemental school.

Conclusion: Yes, DoT's get benefit from spell power, but, at least in terms of DPS, not nearly as much as DD spells.

And yes, we know that locks mostly spam SB in endgame instances, so DoT's are kind of an afterthought, really.

Kommentar von Thottbot

There's a +84 damage and healing 1handed mace off nef thats better than this for shamans.

Kommentar von Thottbot

any caster would want this who doesn't see things like this alot. It is very uber but the priority goes to mages and locks. A priest can get better because +healing only is a hell of a lot more than +dmg too. Mages and Locks get priority, any good guild would tell you the same.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Totally agree. Mageblade is great and ez to get but this dagger has a large increase in INT while not losing too much S.Dam, and it's a lot faster. I'm a mage but I still like to stab ppl, especially pvp. It looks cool also.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The reason DoT users like to get +dmg is because DD users can get +crit, which does absolutely nothing for DoTs. So while yes, +dmg does more for DDs (DPS-wise) than it does for DoTs +crit does infinitely more for DDs. Which is why people to tend to think +dmg=DoT, +crit=DD.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

FYI you can enchant +30 Spell Power on *ANY* weapon.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

warlock/mage-
Claw of+tome of shadow force+Talisman of Ephemeral Power+Zandalarian Hero Charm+Band of Dark Dominion+Ring of Spell Power=585 spell damage without anyother *!@#ing gear.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Seems like a perfect Druid weapon to me with a decent off-hander.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

this is huntar loot for sure. a huntar with this and the mageblade in mainhand would have godlike arcane shots. and if they got like 2xring of spellpower and manaigniting cord the arcane shot would be even better. the +healing stats is GREAT for pet mending.

A priest/druid/shaman rolling for this should be slapped across the face.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Wish warlocks could dual wield.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Just won mine on my mage. Didn't expect to win, but bid really high and woot, I won! This is quite the beauty of an item and I won't be upgrading it for anything for a long time. Got spellpower on it within 5 minutes of the run ending.

Now time for those darned Netherwind Gloves to drop. =)

Edited, Sun May 28 22:46:04 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i am rogue-i would not want this item-
But niceness!
I have a priest warlock shaman druid i would love this on either of them.
Still in shock.... complete uberness
thank god warlock/priests/shamans/druids cant dw :D

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Druid wep... and nothing but a Druid wep....

Hunter - No
Mage - No
Shamy - No
Priest - No
Lock - No
Warr - No
DRUID - YES!

That is all !

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Nice speed and adds stamina - clearly warrior's tanking weapon. And some intellect that makes warriors clever. Definately an MT weapon.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Bah. Aaaaaaaaalmost got this.

We were doing BWL, were almost on Chrom, we started talking about this dagger........ The only warlock with more dkp was gonna pass for me, while a Mage who could need it, had less dkp. I was gonna replace my stupid blue Blade of the Moon.

So I outbid the only other mage who seriously wanted it. I was almost dancing in the room........ and then our best equipped Mage decides to bid 1 more than my max. >.< For him it was only a sucky 10 dmg improvement.
Ok so we caught up with the present. I'm almost crying. He's a guildie, so I can't hate him..... =/

BAH.

Edit: I was pretty upset when I typed it.
I KNOW this is how it works. I'm just whining about the way the mage got it..... like "hm I have more dkp and other mages say I should get it, let's do it".
Whatever.

Edited, Sun Jun 4 16:24:09 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

A hunter would/should not be allowed to roll on this.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Agreed, very ugly, but very good. Clearly a warlock/mage/shadow priest weapon. Hunters can go die in a fire.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Got this on my mage, server first for about a month, very low drop-rate and kicks ass. Sharded an Azuresong Mageblade after getting this, personally I don't like crit because it spikes my aggro which is never good in BWL.

+30 Spell Dam enchant, +Brilliant Wizard Oil = +130 spell dam and +1 spell crit, one handed, thankyouverymuch Blizzard. Kthx.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

screenshot

http://www.ninjaparty.com/hellyes.jpg

what

Edited, Fri Sep 16 10:11:40 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

rogue weapon ! :p

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Noone thinks this whole "hunter weapon" thing is funny or clever anymore. It makes you look stupid, like a clown with old jokes.

Other than that...GIEV!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

There has to be a better picture of this claw. :)
It's too big even on a Tauren imo.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

WOW. Guess the Azuresong finally has a replacement... too bad you can't do +30 spell damage to a 1h... guess +22h would have to do

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I am a lvl 60 Hunter on the Server Tichondrius and got it on our first Chromaggus kill!

Currently I'm dual wielding Azuresong Mageblade in my main hand and Claw of Cromaggus in the offhand both enchanted with Spell Power.

This combo is definitely worth the trouble for a hunter! My Arcane shot now hits for an extra of 164 dmg !

Great dagger for dualwield hunters if you ask me

Kommentar von Allakhazam

as a mage, i would love this, but i can see druids and priests also wanting this :/, but if u r only using this for healing, remember that this is not the BEST, for a dps class, i think this is the best there is

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Post Removed.

Edited, Jan 11th 2007 2:38pm by Scarletrose

Kommentar von Allakhazam

My NE Druid on Lightning's Blade got the first on the server tonight, sweet. Now I need a good offhand :(

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I'd hit it

Kommentar von Allakhazam

well this is what u get when u are a greedy person (like i am) and u dont save dkps for Lok'amir not bad at all though

Kommentar von Allakhazam

ahhhh yes rac, the whole world revolves around you.

ya know, there are actually some hunters, that arent greedy.

surprising huh?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Hunters can go die in a fire.

SECONDED lol definite warlock mage

and also SECONDED hunters can go die with their stuipd philosophy of everything in game is theirs Hunters can go die in a fire.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

honestly, if you think druids are the only one who should roll on this, re-roll.

Honestly, if you think people roll in BWL, f-u-c-k you.

I'll tell you all who should get this weapon;
the one with most dkp! no mage, warlock, druid or priest bullsh1t.

That is all.

Edited, Sun Oct 30 22:14:43 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Hunter weapon if i ever saw one.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

In my guild, only mages and warlocks are allowed to roll on this. And that's definately te way it should be everywhere.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Hunter weapon Stupid mages dont steal our Hunters weapon

Kommentar von Allakhazam

shaman/druid/mage/lock weapon... but what we say here doesn't matter, every guild says which classes can roll on what stuff....

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Wow... druids.. gimme a break.

Mage/warlock (priests should have 'diction or at least staff of domi AND plenty of experience.)
Then priests, b/c that thing is undeniably awesome.
and THEN druids ffs..
But.. i'll leave it to my guild's judgement and trust that whenever the time comes where it actually has to be decided, it goes straight to mages and warlocks.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have been waiting for the claw for over a month now, being the highest dkp person who wants it sooooo wish me luck tonight! Then if it doesnt drop i can hope lokamir drops. This is a druid btw and yes DRUID FTW

Kommentar von Allakhazam

THE most ugly item in game

Kommentar von Allakhazam

We gave it to a Shaman yesterday who had complained a lot about having no choice of end game weapons after he was denied to bid last week... Well grats to him but imo not the best use :) He s the first Shaman on the server to have it ofc :P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Okey.. See this.

Hunter - go &*!@ your selves:)
Warrior - Get real
Rogue - same as above
Druid- Okey guys. This is the last boss before Nefarian. Nefarian has a fair chance of dropping a weapon with MORE +damage and healing, so why even waste your DKP on this?
Warlock - show this baby some love, it's yours=)
Mages - Same as above
Priests - Benediction, and Lok'Amir. What else do we need? Sure it would be nice if all druids rolled on Claw of Chromaggus so we could get Lok'Amir. BUT it's not fair due to the other DPS classes.

Druids, Priests.. Stick with Lok'Amir.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

here's a screenshot

http://users.skynet.be/mari/claw.jpg

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Dude, it's as much of a priest item as mage/warlock. Priest do something other than heal. And it does say healing, so why the hell not? Some people care more about looks than stats, and it really isn't that much less in stats (106 +Healing and 64 +Healing AND Damage).

Kommentar von Allakhazam

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3882/bf23ne.jpg

got this last night... such a sexy sword

Kommentar von Allakhazam

About classes: I hava a shaman, Mage and Priest myself and could easily make the following conclusion:

Shaman - Very useful
Priest - Very useful
Mage - Very useful
Druid - Very useful
Warlock - Very useful
Hunter/Rogue/warrior - Not useful

I am a shaman myself. And i think this is the best 1h weapon this far. On second place Lok'Amir only cause it lack mana regen, otherwise it would have been better. Yes, mana regen is the most benefit stat from items for shamans.

My priority 1h:
1. Claw of Chromaggus (4 mr + high heal and stats)
2. Lok'Amir (high heal and stats)
3. Fang of Venoxis (low heal, but 6 mr and medium stats)

About 2h... Not worth it unless you're on dps duty. So save these to the priests, druids and other caster which needs em more.

Reason why 1h + shield are better than 2h = 2 enchants instead of one +the extra 2800 armor is really nice too ;).

I.e. +heal on 2h weapon or +heal on 1h weapon and 9 spi on shield... which do you prefer? ;)
However I prefer 2h with my mage/prs cause they cannot get the "shield enchant".

If Lok'Amir drops before Claw of Chromaggus I will take Lok'Amir instead, but only if it drops first. If none of em wanna drop... then i get fang of venoxis.

About which healing gear you should aim for depends on your other equipment and on your personal taste of stats. I.e. do you prefer mana regen/int/sta/+heal/spi or +spell crit?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

:) nice

Kommentar von Allakhazam

FFS if i could use Lok'amir I WOULDNT EVEN think about this one! Jezuz!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

There is a reference to Staff of Shadowflame, and it's spec's. there is a correction to be made.

Stab der Schattenflamme of the Shadow Flame
+29 Intellect
+24 Stamina
+18 Spirit
Requires Level 60
Equip: Improves your chance to get a critical strike with spells by 2%.
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 84.

Stiefel der Schattenflamme of the Shadow Flame
Feet - - - Leather
286 Armor
+22 Stamina
Requires Level 60
Equip: +44 Attack Power.
Equip: Improves your chance to hit by 2%.

There is a Chance to Hit on the Boots, and a Chance to Crit on the Staff. Please note that correction.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Chromaggus must have stolen it from his lesser brother Cromaggus.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Id take it for my shammy.
Would be great for mana rez and spell bonus.
Id learn daggers to get this.

Edited, Sun Sep 11 11:24:43 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Who is Cromaggus? I mean this is Claw of Cromaggus and drops off Chromaggus ;|

Kommentar von Allakhazam

giev plx :E In a few months this will be mine :) Highest DKP ftw.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

comparable to lokamir?

YES! wow are you guys kidding me with this 20 more dam/heal thing, 4 MANA REGEN is debatebly about the same to me as a druid and i would take whatever drops first seeing as how both can go many many moons before they drop again. Im next in line for this or lokamir and i really consider them = to eachother and dont care what one i get as long as i get onE!

druids bid on this if u see it, screw the dps classes we save you with this!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Druids & Priests (& Shaman right?) can use Lok'amir il Romathis, the 1h mace from Nefarian (+84 healing & damage)

So i think this item is for Mages & Warlocks. Both classes need +damage.

Edited, Mon Dec 26 12:45:13 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have a druid/shaman/mage/lock, and all i can say is a mage would benefit from this the most by far.

However it comes down to your guilds loot system, if its an auction type, then whoever has the most dkp and is willing to bid it, deserves this the most.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

+64 dmg and healing? oh my, thats a fine dagger.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I'd take it. Then again, I'd also take Shadow Flame. It's not all about taking the best weapon, or saving up for that 3% Nefarian drop, It's about taking what you can get, while you can get it. As the Mage with the top DKP at the moment, if a piece of Netherwind drops I happen not to have, I'll take it. Hoarding DKP never works out quite the way you want it to; you always end up missing out.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i think its teh best choice as a shaman (MC BWL ZG) b'cause nef's mace has no mana regg on it and as spirit is nearly useless as shaman u need manaregg on your equip. Most fights take a lot of time and so MaxMana is not so usefull for shamans so get much +heal and +manaregg and nvm teh +int (also +22 int enchant) +55 heal should be best (yet). all other caster's should get sotsf or sth like that its realy nice 4 shamans.

edit: I forgot Jin'do's Judgement (+55 heal on it) is also a very nice weapon (easy 2 get and you dont need red dragonscale protector oder raggna's shield)

Edited, Nov 4th 2006 at 6:07am PST by Kultkrieger

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