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Wraith Spear...did I overreact?
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Sokur
I roll with dual
Omen of Ruin
(got them both in one Naxx 10 run) with +50 AP on each. I was in a Naxx 10 guild run, the guild hosting had 8 people but had to pug two dps, myself as MM and an SV Hunter.
Wraith Spear
drops off Maexxna. Myself and the other hunter roll on it of course, I beat his roll but then their guilds Ret Pally rolls on it and beats me. She already has
Titansteel Destroyer
with +85 AP on it. Having a raiding Ret Pally i asked why she would roll on it, it was not itemized for her and she said because maxdps.com has it higher ranked for Ret. She wins the roll, I left the pug along with the other hunter. Did *we* overreact or were we justified in our argument?
Edited for grammar.
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Sokur
I'll admit that leaving the pug and robbing myself of possible gear & emblems was a stupid thing to do. I should have clarified.
Was I incorrect in feeling that Wraith should have gone to one the hunters based on stats and the fact that it was not itemized for the pally, not to mention it was a sidegrade?
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Sokur
Really, you think that
Staff of the Plague Beast
is better than Wratih? You guys are focusing on the wrong part of the post. I already said leaving wasn't the issue, the issue is *Do you think the Ret Pally should have gotten it?* As I said before, if I was raiding with my pally and the polearm dropped and any hunter or feral druid rolled on it I would not even think of rolling against them.
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Sokur
No, lol, I raid as MM but farm as BM. I would love to have
Black Ice
instead but I can't make it to any of my guilds raids. I am on a West Coast server with mostly East Coast players so I end up pugging everything, so yes, I do pug for gear and emblems. That's also another reason why I haven't gotten into Ulduar yet, trying to gear up in PUG 25 mans sucks.
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Pezwar
It's a nice weapon for a Ret Pally. Not 100% itemized for them, but IMO it's a bigger upgrade for him going from a Destroyer than you going from 2 Omens. So yeah. I would have let him have it. And no matter what server you're on, there's bound to be a guild that raids at times where you can raid as well, so it's most definitely possible to not have to pug things.
Bottom line, he won it fair and square, and if I was Raid Leader or Loot Master, I wouldn't have cared one bit, especially since he'd put it to better use than us Hunters can. And please, don't attempt to dispute that.
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seizmik
wraith spear has a 3.7 speed, which is one of the slowest you can find, therefore many melee dps will roll on that weapon.
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Sokur
Technically it was a guild run with two pug dps in it. Neither pug dps won but the pally that was in the guild got it. Maybe im just reading into it too much.
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PugnaciousOne
It's not a pally weapon. The destroyer is better unless the pally was fully hit-capped without the destroyer and had all that +str from their other gear, which in naxx 10 gear, just dosn't happen.
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Sokur
Well then, since the consensus is that I am indeed wrong, I will leave it at that. Thank you. I do like the fact that Zakkhar actually put the numbers to the test. I actually hope I raid with the Pally again and out dps them again while they are using Wraith, that will give me some satisfaction.
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I roll with dual
Omen of Ruin
(got them both in one Naxx 10 run) with +50 AP on each. I was in a Naxx 10 guild run, the guild hosting had 8 people but had to pug two dps, myself as MM and an SV Hunter.
Wraith Spear
drops off Maexxna. Myself and the other hunter roll on it of course, I beat his roll but then their guilds Ret Pally rolls on it and beats me. She already has
Titansteel Destroyer
with +85 AP on it. Having a raiding Ret Pally i asked why she would roll on it, it was not itemized for her and she said because maxdps.com has it higher ranked for Ret. She wins the roll, I left the pug along with the other hunter. Did *we* overreact or were we justified in our argument?
Edited for grammar.
Her biggest problems is relying on maxdps to be useful for hunters. If you look at their website, other than upgrading weapon levels from time to time, the only thing they describe is Beast Mastery spec. So, of course the Wraith Spear will show better for a Ret Pally since they have yet to properly address two better dps specs for hunters. There are people that blindly follow a variety of "dps" related websites who's information is woefully out of date.
Personally, I still would have stayed. I'm not about to let someone with a lack of understanding of their class, spec, gear and drops to get in the way of me acquiring upgrades. I'll just run it again next week anyway.
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