I hate army of the dead. . .(prot warrior)

Beitrag von twitch77

okay i run alot with a dk. he's a good friend, spits out quite a bit of dps (3.5k+), and we make a good team.
but omg i hate his army with a passion haha.

usually saves his army for bosses. . .he pops at beginning on most fights. and i can't get agro at all.
problem i'm having is i'm constantly rage starved at the beginning of the fight while his army is pounding away at the boss.
other thing that annoys me, is i can't control where the boss is facing while army is up. . .i can't prevent frontal attacks from hitting the dps, or ranged.

do i just suck? am i suppose to be able to hold agro while army is up? i can pull agro again once his army starts dying. . .but initially, i feel completely screwed to his army.
and taunt does little for me. may keep boss for a second, but doesn't hold for long.

any advice? or do i just deal with his army of stupidness haha xP

Beitrag von XxDeathxX

You don't suck. Tell the Dk to stop using AotD in instances. The ghouls instantly grab aggro and after they die the nest once will get aggro. The amount of dps they put out isn't worth the aggravation for the tank.

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Beitrag von Olthoi

I was under the impression that AotD no longer taunted most raid bosses. In those situations, the army is acceptable.

Situations where he prevents a tank from getting threat and/or causes cleaves on the raid = raid kick!

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Beitrag von twitch77

Ask him to stop this bs (explaining this like you did here - seriously why do people first use forums than talk with each other?) or stop running with him.

haha oh believe me. i've told him time and time again i hate his army, and i've explain how badly it screws me.
but he uses it anyway.
i play with him cause he's a good friend of mine. i'm at my best with him. . .lol i don't feel alot of pressure with him, so i'm able to focus on what needs to be done better.
not sure i'll be able to convince him to stop using it, so i guess i'll just deal with it.
his army has never posed too much of a serious risk. it's just annoying more then anything.

i mainly started this thread to see if i was doing something wrong. . .if i was suppose to be able to hold agro through army. but that's been answered.

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Beitrag von twitch77

yeah that's pretty much all i do while army is active. devistate to 5 sunders, shield slam when up, and keep shockwave buff on boss.
i've never had problems pulling agro right away once army is gone. like i said it's not a huge issue. . .just annoying as hell.
i'll give my friend another serious talk about it. see if we can't come to some kind of compromise.

Beitrag von hermeska

I find AotD is fine, as long as they let me get aggro first, so I at least have some rage to maintain some threat and get 5 sunders on the mob. Usually they'll die halfway through the fight, and I just pickup threat and go from there.

I don't know how much damage they do, as I have no clue about DK's, but AotD can be annoying at times, easy just to ask the DK not to use it.

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Beitrag von twitch77

and keep shockwave buff on boss.
I am cant seem to guess what you had in mind here.

grrr xP not shockwave, thunder clap.
srry bout that.

Beitrag von Shiverlynn

I'm okay with DK using the Army as long as they don't do it on bosses with frontal attacks like dragons and stuff. Once the army is dead I just taunt the boss back, there's no problem with that. While the boss chases the ghouls around I just auto-swing build rage and Devastate.

If the DK uses the Army on such a boss I just explain to him why he shouldn't do it, and also say that he can use it on any other boss.

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Beitrag von Meggie

And yet in my experience the top four bosses where random DKs love to use Army of the Dead:

That's why it's called "Army of the DEAD".

Beitrag von Nyito

As a DK tank, I learned you can taunt off the ghouls for a MASSIVE threat lead. I'm sure you can as well. Learn to love being able to autoattack for a whole boss and not lose aggro. =)

Beitrag von twitch77

my taunts do nothing for me with a fresh army up. they give me agro for a second, but the ghouls gain agro right away back.
and i've had the guy pop his army on 3/4 of that list above >:( we were just doing Kalecgos in sunwell. . .and he asked if he should pop army haha xP xP. dragons with deadly breath, nasty tails, and tanks not being able to position = fail.
luckily the mt and me were able to talk him out of it.

Beitrag von Escutcheon

I think the ghouls, the army as it were specifically and individually taunt their target, causing them to spin around and one or two shot a bunch of what equals flies. I suppose the DPS they do is reasonable (lord knows I've been roflpwned by militant armies of the dead in BGs before), however as a Warrior I find it obnoxiously threat-consuming when they're up.
I don't believe I've tried mocking blow, but I know I've taunted and lost aggro a second later to one of the various enlistees of the dead, which seems to indicate they're subscribers to the breath of god theory to repel enemies. I do not like them, although I can't recall when I've ever had a raid/heroic wipe due to these rampaging buggers.

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I hate army of the dead. . .(prot warrior)

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