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Kommentar von Kabuu

Dropped from Supremus in The Black Temple on the PTR after the first legitimate kill by Nihilum.

Kommentar von 25619

Compared to other weapons that are attainable at this level (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30058#M0z).

This one is the better choice for the Sunder/Heroic Strike combo-spammer. For those more fond of Devastate the Mallet of the Tides, would be the way to go for the slower speed and higher top-end damage, though you lose out on +7 defense and +7 weapon skill.

When it comes down to it, it's really a toss up between what you have available to you and your race. Where-as a human would gain more from the Mallet of the Tides, an orc will gain more from this weapon.

Kommentar von 55393

these would so !@#$ing awesome, if it was combined with misplaced servo-arm thing from naxx. Maybe some cool googles. and u got a perfect engineering styled character(##RESPBREAK##)524##DELIM##MasterOfDisguise##DELIM##

Kommentar von 70739

Take a look at the average speeds of the 70+ raid "tank" weapons and compare with the old 60+ crop. There's a definite trend: 1.9-2.0 is out, 1.6-1.7 is in. Damage ranges also narrow as you move further into endgame. This seems to indicate that tank weapon design is leaning more and more towards control and predictability, further supported by the absence of a proc-centric 70+ tank weapon.

Kommentar von 19117

Not to mention that on Orc tanks all the+axes(racial) really helps threat generation.

Kommentar von 71486

Mongoose enchant doesn't show up on this weapon. Probably because there is a red glow on the handgrip.

Kommentar von 89325

Nice Weapon

Kommentar von Machinassiah

Items like The Brutalizer, Mallet of the Tides, and Gauntlets of Enforcement will only become increasingly valuable in patch 2.3, and with the next patch's introduction of more badge rewards such as Brooch of Deftness and Bracers of the Ancient Phalanx, capping your expertise for tanking will be an easy feat. Why do this?

When a boss parries your attack, its next swing acts as a sort of "counter-attack", decreasing the time between the previous swing and the next swing by as much as 50%. This can be devastating when combined with unlucky, unpreventable crushing blows and/or instant boss abilities. With expertise, this becomes much less of a problem as you are able to bypass the boss's chance to parry your attacks. Hard hitting bosses like Gruul, Morogrim Tidewalker, and Mother Shahraz, some who are also able to do multiple abilities at once, will not be able to screw over your raid as often as they did before. Pre-nerf, Mother Shahraz was able to insta-gib a fully BT geared warrior doing everything properly at a much more frequent rate than any other boss to my knowledge.

I have lost count of the number of times I have seen a tank die, looked at a WWS meter for the night, and noticed that there was only a second between two attacks as a result of the boss parrying the tanks attack.

However, this is not the only reason to stack expertise. With the large reduction of Dodge and Parry, one can expect much higher threat generation rates. With more threat comes more DPS, with more DPS comes less time you will be wailed on by a boss.

So basically you're drastically increasing your chance to survive as well as drastically increasing your threat generation.

It seems like expertise was made for tanks.

Here's a list of viable tanking items with expertise:

Weapon:

The Brutalizer
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=32254
21 Expertise

Mallet of the Tides
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30058
14 Expertise

Neck:

Brooch of Deftness
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=33296
21 Expertise

Wrist:

Bracers of the Ancient Phalanx
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=33516
22 Expertise

Hands:

Gauntlets of Enforcement
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=32280
21 Expertise

It is possible to attain an expertise rating of 85 with pure tanking gear. That is -5.45% Dodge and Parry.

Kommentar von 120290

Best tanking weapon around unless you are a human It isn't unique, so if it drops again sometime and there is no one that can use it, take it and use mongoose on one, executioner on the other, it's quite worth it on threat-races/trash.

Kommentar von 47000

Confirmed executioner still does not show up on this weapon. Also there is no visible proc like with mongoose. Nonetheless it is a great weapon /enchant combination for threat generation.

Kommentar von 131187

Does executioner show up?

Kommentar von 78124

If you're an Orc, you'll want to use The Brutalizer because of your passive racial ability Axe Specialization

If you're a Human, you'll want to use The Unbreakable Will because of your passive racial ability Sword Specialization.

If you're neither human nor orc, then it's a matter of the situation in which you're tanking: Threat-senstive fights would benefit more from the additional TPS that The Brutalizer offers, while bosses who gleefully pound your face in would generally be better faced with the additional effective health that The Unbreakable Will grants.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Just got this axe yesterday, got mongoose for 36436464g today and now the damned gfx do not show... brilliant stuff

Kommentar von Allakhazam

this axe also increases expertise rating by 21, and it is quite possibly the best tanking weapon in the game, the only other one would be the unbreakable will, which has 1 less defense rating, no expertise, same stamina and dps, so it all just depends on what you prefer and what drops

Kommentar von Allakhazam

(repost)

Edited, Aug 19th 2007 9:49:18pm by TurtleTamer

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The DPS and stats on this Axe are insane. That would be a seriously awesome axe to own. I imagine this is a BT drop...maybe? Anyone know?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Jesus christ on a pogo stick this thing is good o.O making me orgasm just thinking about it.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Here's a pic : http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/AGReach2/thebrutalizer.jpg

Kommentar von Thottbot

Brilliant for tanking but i reckon an orc would do best with this because of their axe skill

Kommentar von Thottbot

From Supremus in Black Temple.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Has all the best (warrior) tank stats

defense

weapon skill (for hitting higher level mobs more reliably, applies to taunt and sunder as well)

fast attack speed - for effective heroic strike spam

(heroic strike does not trigger the global cooldown as it is an 'on next attack' skill, so can be stacked with sunder/devastate spam)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Man I have a teaspoon from IKEA that looks JUST like that! :o

Kommentar von Thottbot

Yeah, I want my tank to have this.

This is like saying

Hey, here you go...your job is easier now.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Shaman tank? Rly?

U dumb.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This is clearly a tanking weapon made primary for warriors and paladins.

Kommentar von Thottbot

nice axe my prot warri use it best tank wep atm

Kommentar von Thottbot

Anyone else find it strange that enchantments do not glow on this weapon? Its not as if it has its own unique glow, and even then some weapons with their own glows still show up the enchantment. We pay xx amount of gold for our executioner/mongoose, so dammit blizzard we want glow!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Railz, you are a moron

Kommentar von Thottbot

lol i was looking up the swords for my MT prot spec warrior but this is perfect, the stamina and defense rating are much better than unbreakable will plus this comes with an expertise rating.

if you compare this with The Sun Eater or King's Defender theres a big differene.

Kommentar von Thottbot

It does have similar stats to The unbreakable will but is slightly better unless you're a Human(coz of Sword Specialization) if you're a human i think the sword might be better.

And also, i just got this wep, tis frikkin awsome!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ok, first i'd like to state the Unbreakable Will has 308 armor (308 MORE armor than this weapon) keep in mind for every 10.5 points of armor you gain (speaking from a prot warrior's point of view) .01% GARUNTEED NOT CHANCE melee damage reduction (308 armor yields just over 29% melee damage reduction). The Unbreakable Will has 1 less defense rating, the same dps, higher max damage (which DOES affect your devastate damage), all with the same weapon speed as this one.

Expertise is melee damage reduction as it reduces the chance to reset the boss's swing timer, less faster hits = less hits overall = less possible damage in the combat table. However if you are a human prot warrior like myself, keep in mind that the expertise skill on this weapon is only .33% above your racial +5 expertise. As far as expertise on tank weaps for human prot warriors goes. The unbreakable will is your last stop in tank weapon upgrades. As this one counting it's expertise is a SIDEgrade not UPgrade.

Overall for human prot warriors, unless you want to nurf your devastate damage (arguably Threat per Second as well), decrease your garunteed melee damage reduction by .29% (again not chance) for 1 defense rating and .33% expertise which probably doesn't equal out to the MDR you gain from the 308 armor and maybe spend DKP for a sidegrade Brutalizer (downgrade IMO). Stick to your Unbreakable Will.

Unless you want it just because of its coolness. Personally i wouldn't want to see any human prot warrior using this. For human prot warriors wanting to stack expertise, use the mallet of the tides.

For the other races, have at it =D.

Whoever the poster above said this weapon is best in game even for human prot warriors is just plain dumb.

Kommentar von Mortalous

Mongoose enchant is not visible on this weapon.

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