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评论来自
27711
Can anyone confirm that "Equip: Chance on spell hit to restore 128 to 172 mana to the bearer." works for consecratio ticks? Sure would be nifty for my paladin if it did.
评论来自
23500
Just so you know, because I got this item due to curiosity:
1. It doesn't proc off heals.
2. It doesn't proc off Seal of Righteousness' hit-attacks. IE: Activate SoR and autoattack and it won't proc.
3. Retribution Aura can't proc it, so i'd assume lightning shield can't proc it either but I dunno. Consecration also cannot proc it as it kinda falls into the same family I guess.
评论来自
ataxxia
I'm a pally, not sure how good this is for shamans.. but this it the way i look at it..
top rank seals such as righteousness and command are 260 mana and 280 mana respectively. this has 15% proc rate, (1 in 6.666..) to resore approx half of what the seal costs.
so dont really get this item for the mana regen, get it for the attack power with the added bonus of sometimes getting a tiny bit of mana back.
评论来自
25585
some of this info is incorrect.
--Heals DO NOT proc it
--Consecration DOES
--Judgements DO
--Havent tested exorcism yet but i think it will. I'll edit tomorrow.
overall, a great trinket!
评论来自
MuffinKing
how about shamans? does flametongue proc this?
评论来自
93838
This trinket DOES proc off lightning shield charges, however as I've never seen it proc twice in a row, or even off the same shield, I assume it has a hidden cooldown, does anyone know what this is?
评论来自
115933
this trinket owns for an elemental shaman. it gives an average 55mp/5 when spamming a 2seconds lightning bolt. and please note that ''on spell hit'' means that it can ONLY procc from spells that hits an enemy.
评论来自
DarianTruBlade
This procs off of Seal of Blood.
I bought the trinket assuming I'd get the occasional bit of mana back from Judgements, and was utterly astounded when I saw it proc in the middle of my Judgement cooldown.
This being the case, it makes an absolutely superb trinket for Horde Retribution Paladins.
评论来自
Allakhazam
It procs for me when i judge but never proced when healed so i wounder if it only procs on damage spells?
评论来自
Allakhazam
This item might be bugged. I've never seen it proc. :(
评论来自
Thottbot
Just so you know, because I got this item due to curiosity:
1. It doesn't proc off heals.
2. It doesn't proc off Seal of Righteousness' hit-attacks. IE: Activate SoR and autoattack and it won't proc.
3. Retribution Aura can't proc it, so i'd assume lightning shield can't proc it either but I dunno. Consecration also cannot proc it as it kinda falls into the same family I guess.
4. Chance to proc was 5% exactly (40 casts of Judgement of Righteousness and 8 procced the thing). Not exactly a large sample, but the 5% seems like it's probably true.
评论来自
Thottbot
8 divided by 40 is not 5% -- it's 20%, you grade school dropout. 20% is quite a respectable proc rate for that kind of trinket, but I doubt the result of 40 attempts means much.
评论来自
Thottbot
Is this able to proc of windfury or stormstrike?
I guess not, but some tested results would be nice.
评论来自
Thottbot
Apply Aura: Proc Trigger Spell
Mark of Vindication
15% chance.
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/sp=33522
Statisticly 22.5 mana per spell.
56 MP5 if spamming lightning bolts,
assuming -cast talent and 0 second delay.
评论来自
Thottbot
im not sure if this would be correct but... a shammy who has (i think its called this) 'totem of the storm' i.e free level 1 lightning spells at 0.5sec
with the new patch 2.10... he could cast off level 1 lightning and then use shocks when he crits and gets elemental focus (this way he would always be on regen as hes not using any mana) *use high lvl shocks... most ele shammys sit on %30 crit rate for lightning so you can still do dps while regen
and while doing this he should get 15 procs from the trinket per minute giving 2250ish mana (187.5 mp5)... this could be pretty helpful in raids...
just a quick thought, maths mite be wrong (will it even proc off lvl 1 spells tho, if not wats the lowest spell lvl, 3 below top lvl?)
评论来自
Thottbot
this trinket blows...
yeah the ap is nice but only if your a melee shaman/paly... we don't cast enough spells to make this any good
the spell restor is nice if you a elemental shaman or a spell dmg paladin... but then the ap becomes usless
the spell castors should get teh same benifit that other castors get... and melee should get the same value out of there trinket than the other classes too...
why are these bound to a class... us shaman/paly hybrids get screwed over with this trinket.
We should have a choice on the trinket for the one that suits our play style the best
评论来自
Thottbot
Using it the last 3 levels with my 69 shaman, I have done some good testing and found that the mana return proc
ONLY PROCS WITH DAMAGING SPELLS
to the best of my knowledge. I have never ever EVER seen it go off from using stormstrike (922 times in the last 4 days) or getting a windfury (a lot more than 922 :) ) - ever.
This trinket never once proc'd off of any heals or totem spell. It
DOES
proc with lightning shield, but not with water shield (as expected since it only procs from damaging spells)
It proc'd for me once in every 3 fights with lightning shield against the ogres in Zangramarsh, which was also 1 cast per ogre killed, and approx. 20 seconds in between each kill. It did skip a few fights and stray from that formula, but after 150 kills it proc'd about 37 times. This agrees with the previous posts on the % chance to process being around 20-25%.
I would assume it procs the same way with pally spells, although I have not tested it what so ever.
In short, if you are heavy enhancement, and some elemental, you will get the best benifit from this trinket as a shaman.
I still use it just b/c of lightning shield, and how much it can help with the appropriate talents, (Improved lightning shield & mental quickness) and the enhancement gladiator gauntlets which ill have soon hopefully.
Hope that helped clear up any confusion.
评论来自
Thottbot
This thing is kinda crappy to be honest. Yet, at the same time, it's kinda good. Not worth 30 marks, to be sure. First thing I noticed is that it hardly procs at all and only for damaging spells. This would have been great for healadins if it could proc of heals...but no...never....then it would actually be worth something.....and blizzard always does it's best to make sure you are always a little angry with the stuff you work hard for lol. But anyway, this thing procs off of JoR, JoV, Conecrate (The initial casting of Consecrate), and Holy Shock. Not sure about SoC/JoC yet. Gonna try that later. Not bad if you have nothing better, of course. I solo with this and it's nice to have. But it is indeed something you can't rely on at all. Get it if you have nothing better to put in it's place. Maybe they'll fix it later...I hope. O.O
~M_D~
评论来自
Thottbot
as a holy specced pally but with gear specced for dps ( 2 diff setups) i find this good for the atk power but useless for the mana
评论来自
Thottbot
Any ret pallies know if this procs off of Crusader Strike?
Not sure if that counts as a spell or physical attack.
I'm holy, so I can't test it out myself.
评论来自
Thottbot
well yea this is uselss for paladins. the only spells that "hit" we cast are judgement of righteousness, thats every 8 seconds. we do cast alto of spells tho.
consecrate
holy shield
seal of righteousness
judgement
its upseting only one of these can proc it
评论来自
Thottbot
After extensive testing, the mana restore simply does not proc from Seal/Judgement of Command. I notified a GM about it, and he says they are working to correct this in a future patch.
So for retribution paladins, the mana restore will only proc very infrequently from hammer of justice and hammer of wrath. If you need the attack power, there's many other trinkets available to fill that role. Until this is fixed, this trinket kinda sucks for ret.
评论来自
Thottbot
After sweat, tears and endless gankin and tower capturing I was thrilled to get my trinket that I THOUGH that would have chance to restore 128 - 172 mana on HIT like Mark of Conquest restores health on melee hit and mana on ranged <
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27920/
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But no, what do I see? Chance on restoring mana on spell cast? So as a tank I though like, okey this can be good too, I mean, I've got +10 mobs on me all the time, this would be good with Consecration, Retribution Aura or perhaps Seal of Righteousness.
But no, non of these abilities can procc of the trinket, so I said to myself, okey, I might go as healadin someday, although the AP would be useless than but it must be good to get a free Flash of Light every once and a while, but noooo, this doesn't either proc from healing spells.
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Read this paladins around the world, healers / tank / shockers / retris -
DO NOT GET THIS TRINKET
- Not worth the effort cause all in all, it sucks.. flat sucks!
评论来自
Thottbot
I imagine this is a pretty nice trinket for Elemental or Enhancement Shamans mostly because of the talents they have to reduce the mana costs of their damage spells.
Elemental Shamans always cast Lightning Bolt/Chain Lightning and/or Shocks, so obviously that will trigger the proc, and with Elemental Focus, some of that mana spent on casting will be returned, prolonging your chain of lightning casts.
Enhancement Shamans only cast Shocks, but that's very often and usually while Shamanistic Focus is on and sometimes after a Stormstrike. The proc may even just refund the mana you spent on a Shamanistic Focus Shock.
With Water Shield on in either scenario, your mana would last longer than usual.
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