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评论来自
Carighan
This seems too good to be true. *drools*
I bet the materials will be a major pain to get, and I could probably get the needed Arena rank for a comparable Dagger twice in the time, but it is very nice to see they are finally upgrading Blacksmithing to be useful.
评论来自
8670
This would be a nice worthwile off hand dagger for rogues, and i do agree its nice to see that blizzard is buffing blacksmithing.
评论来自
5928
The base materials for this weapon come out to 60 Fel Iron Ore, 40 Eternium Ore, 8 each of Primal Earth, Water, Air, Fire, and Mana, and the 2 Primal Nether, which drop from high level instance bosses.
You'll also need someone to perform the Primal Might transmute, which is on a 24 hour cooldown. However, it is purchasable from a vendor in Shattrath City, so it shouldn't be difficult to find a few people who will do it for a reasonable price.
While it's impossible to say anything about the price of these materials prior to release of the expansion, what we can say is that none of the materials are exotic, and (with the exception of the Primal Nether) should be readily available on the auction house for competetive prices. The materials for this weapon seem much more accessible than those for items like the Arcanite Reaper (
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=12784
) were on live (using 20 3-day transmutes which required rare-drop gems from veins available only in the highest level areas of the game).
Overall, I expect the cost of assembling this weapon is going to be much less prohibitive than high level weapons were in the past, which will in turn make this recipe very valuable. In fact, finding somebody to craft this item will certainly be the most difficult task of all, early on.
评论来自
14668
Agreed, nice for the offhand and also nice to see that crafted items will be more comparable to those from raiding/pvp, hopefully this is an indication of a better itemization trend for tradeskills, in particular weaponsmithing. Would be nice if it had some sockets as well, but can't have everything I suppose.
评论来自
21721
Ferras I agree. Blizz are definately picking up they're game as far as making the high-end craftable's actually worth it, which it rarely was pre-BC.
评论来自
15151
I got one of these crafted, and it is amazing, so far better than any of the rep reward daggers. It took about a day of farming for the primal mats, 8 days to get them crafted, and in the mean time doing couple instance runs to get the nethers for the crafter. It has been a great dagger so far, very very nice for combat daggers builds.
评论来自
Gibbet
Dirge is possibly the most accessable and realiable way to get a Combat Rogue into the raid scene.The DPS and its speed makes it a remarkable weapon for prolonged Boss battles, although combat potency talents will form the corner stone of this weapons potential it does merit a second glance and comparrison to the other Daggers available.
From the list of Rep gained and looted Daggers this isnt as painful to get crafted as it first appears. its totally free of intesive rep grinding regardless of the win or lose story incorperated with Instances, This could become a very popular no frills get the job done step for many players.
Ive seen a fair amount of nice offhand daggers, the Scryers and Consoritum epics fit the role but theyre still a little slower than this.
评论来自
3ceph0los
Aanar in Agrammar can make Dirge
评论来自
9818
Raw materials are:
60 Fel Iron Ore and 40 Eternium Ore for the Felsteel Bars.
80 Motes of Earth, 80 Motes of Water, 80 Motes of Air, 80 Motes of Fire, 80 Motes of Mana for the Primal Might.
2 Primal Nether.
评论来自
Zanka
In the next patch(2.10) the mats gonna be:
10Khorium Bars, 8Primal Mights, 10Felsteel Bars and 4Primal Nether
评论来自
28437
The fact is, you don't NEED this dagger to get into Karazhan, and the Dirge is only slightly better than the Emerald Ripper, and not as good as Blade of the Unrequited or Malchazeen (two other daggers that have a good chance of dropping in Karazhan). On my server, the mats for this dagger are worth 1000g alone... add in the 8 days required to create the Primal Mights, I really don't believe this dagger is worth it.
评论来自
29517
I would agree you dont need this dagger to get into kara. However for a combat rogue this dagger is hands down the best choice compared to Emerald ripper or Blade of Unrequited. This dagger was made as the perfect OH for a combat rogue.
评论来自
Truffles
I use the searing sunblade, avalible from heroic vendor for 50 marks. It has a 1,30 speed compared to the 1,40 for this one. With maxed combat potency, this means that in a fight that lasts 5 minutes with you constantly hitting on the target, this dagger will give 214,3 offhand swings, where as the searing sunblade will give 230,8 offhand swings. With an average of 3 energy per hit (if you do hit them all), searing sunblade will give 49 more energy in that 5 minute fight, but you will lose 17 attackpower, and about 10 critrating, but gain 21 stamina. This weapon also has 2,4 more DPS. Damn, I should try to get this one.
评论来自
49008
Has anyone tried Tanking with this?
It's the fastest 1h weapon above 80 dps.
It has no tanking stats though.
Other Dagger options IMO are Timeslicer and warp splinter's thorn.
They are lower dps but they have tanking stats.
Any opinions on tanking with daggers?
评论来自
46914
I've been dual wielding these for a while now. Getting some pretty nice DPS off of them and poison applications are quick. I just got both of them enchanted with Mongoose, and they are insane. If I start out with a CS I can usually have poison in my off hand stacked all the way on the target before they become unstunned. They work pretty well for backstab, but realy, I don't use it that much.
评论来自
24754
Feltooth Eviscerator -
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29346
from Heroic Ramparts is a very comparable weapon, and probably easier to obtain if you have a good group. It's higher DPS, same speed, slightly more crit, but 6 less attack power.
评论来自
LordRao
I find the Riftmaker dagger from the Keepers of Time a comparable case: you would need to grind thoem up to Exalted, which would net you the weapon for a small fee. It would cost you considerably less money, but actually grinding any faction, and especially one like the KoT, up to any reasonable level takes ages, in my experience. The Dirge is quite a simple weapon to get, and will keep you going very well until you have the luxury of choosing a high rep/low droprate dagger (if not actually being better).
评论来自
Chicken
The nice thing about this dagger is that it's craftable. Farming the mats will get you this dagger, assuming you find a blacksmith.
This leaves you to save your arena pts for that shiny MH or heroic badges for the nice trinket or even DKP(if you even use that) for a nice epic MH from KZ.
For a raid starter gear set this isn't bad at all.
评论来自
88640
On my server (Sylvanas) this is the most spammed weapon in the entire server. Anyday if i just pop into and major city, it always appears Dirge :) i dunno whats funny about but it sure looks like hell =)
comments like "Knock, knock" "Who's there" "Dirge" always appears and comments like it =) really annoying and blizzard doesn't seem to care :(
评论来自
9674
Dirge is the fastest Offhand BoE Dagger you can buy.
You can use this Combat Daggers Rogue's Raid Build:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/talent=f0gc0xZbeV0rEz0MMotV
评论来自
Thaspraya
This item has been spammed in trade chat for 15 hours(And is still being spammed) on the Auchindoun - EU realm. People love it.
评论来自
Shunta
Spread the word, use as an expression on your server!! It fits in everywhere "Zomg, I just d (owned) that guy!!" or "Hahahha that is so y (funny)" Or, "I just d (loled)", or "You (Douch)bag!"
This is the most common expression on the EU realm Bloodfeather!
// Shunta @ Bloodfeather
评论来自
Milker
On our server, skullcrusher eu horde, loads of people have been spamming links to this item in trade channel for 2 days in a row now, making others angry :D Noone really knows why this is going or how it started ... Personally I kinda like that kinda of spontaneous crazy stuff :p
评论来自
88528
If you see many spam with jokes with this dagger on your server, you should now that it's very normal :)
评论来自
Kastaje
As many may know this item is a popular thing to spam about in trade chat. If you want to get rid of the spam try downloading addons like:
Dirge Spam Blocker
Annoying Spam Blocker
SpamMeNot
评论来自
tarsakh
One of the best weapons for a fury warrior to have outside of Black Temple. swap this in when boss mob is around execute range, and your dps will skyrocket. due to the decent dps, and very low attack speed, you are able to generate more than enough rage to spam execute every GCD with extra rage to spare to boost the damage.
People that think this is rogue only, need to open their eyes.
评论来自
141474
Why is spammed???
评论来自
Selim
As quoted from WoWWiki
Recently, this item has been spammed excessively on trade channels over a large number of realms. Apparently, it started with someone at an unknown RP-realm who intended to sell this weapon with a more commercialistic approach: "Making with or without your materials. get yours today! It's tastic!". Shortly after people started to use this concept by making words of their own, preferably swear-words, though this lasted only a short time, and has now progressed into people simply spamming the item link where it can be used to "enhance" certain famous quotes, slogans or other common sentences to their own amusement
Some examples of Dirge spam:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8138/dirge1yt9.jpg
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1751/dirge2cl5.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6910/dirge3zr1.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2275/dirge4tm2.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7848/dirge5gb1.jpg
评论来自
98460
I've been eyeing this dagger as an Assassin rogue, thinking of a high poison proc rate. It seems like a good choice for me, as I'm smelly rich, but I'm curious if I can equip two of these. Anyone know if that's do-able before I waste more money?
评论来自
agelos
Well in my realm ppl got bored of dirge...but see the good side:some jokes with dirge are nice but some really suck
评论来自
Zaphiron
Just to illustrate how far the Dirge spam got out of hand, my warrior actually wanted to sell this weapon (he is a blacksmith) and when I announced it in the trade channel I got spammed by whispers of people threatening to report me for spamming. Life's little irony I guess.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Crafting on Suramar (A)
评论来自
Allakhazam
I can craft this baby. Gimme a call =)
sn: puddingpopp
server: destromath
fraction: alliance
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm looking to have one made on Kael'Thas, horde side. Have all the mats, but haven't had any luck finding a capable smith with nethers to use. Please get back to Aerandire in game if you can make one :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
on Silvermoon server, Alliance.
Tradechannel.. Never Ever Mention this dagger.
People go crazy over it :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
My friend is selling the Plans for theese on Dunemaul server.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I can craft this on the server Terenas, alliance side
/w henkydoodle
评论来自
Allakhazam
Our tank got this
评论来自
Allakhazam
I recommend going for the Gladiator's Shiv (
click
) which is VERY easy to get, the price has been dropped to around 1150 arena points.. you can get this in about 2-4 weeks of 5v5 arena, even with a
horrible
team.
Edited, Mar 13th 2007 7:17pm by qplazm
Edited, Mar 13th 2007 7:17pm by qplazm
评论来自
Allakhazam
server :AQ
nick :azrail (horde) can craft it. wisp him or (in game) mail to him
评论来自
Allakhazam
May the be with you C:
评论来自
Allakhazam
Also you can grind money while in a 5v5 arena team, you need atleast 10 matches in the week to get points, done in no-time.
评论来自
Allakhazam
All I can say this has to be the greatist dagger that is crafted ever....
评论来自
Allakhazam
removed
Edited, Jul 14th 2007 2:55am by easonra
评论来自
Allakhazam
Not really.. OH maybe but its 1.4 speed, the suckage for MH
评论来自
Allakhazam
On
http://www.realmhistory.net
you can view who can craft this on your realm or add yourself as a crafter;
评论来自
Allakhazam
I can craft this on >> Twilight´s Hammer << on Sartok
评论来自
Allakhazam
I can craft this on Exectus, msg Cmarison or send an in game mail.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Craftable by blacksmiths, great little offhand dagger.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ras on Hyjal can make this pst me
评论来自
Allakhazam
Edit: sorry for double post!
Edited, Feb 4th 2007 8:19am by Sondretard
评论来自
Allakhazam
I can craft this on Grim Batol EU - Fizzeh
评论来自
Allakhazam
Make love, not Dirge...
Yes, the most spammed Item in Trade Channel on Haumarush - Horde
评论来自
Allakhazam
On my server you just can't link this dagger in the trade channel, cause it will be linked over and over again by almost every single online player in every single context.
Examples:
FTW!
Have you seen the size of my ?
And if anyone responses with something like "reported" you get things like:
Shove it up your
Its great fun :)
评论来自
Thottbot
Start collecting your motes soon as you enter outlands you can have half these mats easy b4 70
评论来自
Thottbot
I didnt know thottbot was used for trading purposes. Isnt that just abusing it? If you want something crafted go post on the WoW forums and dont spam this place up with "oh craft for me" when people are actually looking for some decent information on stuff.
评论来自
Thottbot
I got this baby a couple of months ago. the dps is fantastic and the stats are even better than those of the merciless gladiator's shiv. Obviously, the dps and median dmg of the arena dagger beats this thing by far, but ive been very happy with it as a prereq to getting my arena blades.
Overall, get for ur early stages of 70 but upgrade to the merc shiv when u can.
评论来自
Thottbot
Everyone on my server (Khadgar) goes like
DIRGE DIRGE DIRGE, IM GONNA DIRGE YOUR MOM BLAH BLAH..
in trade channel.
评论来自
Thottbot
The most trade channel spammed item on Sylvanas
评论来自
Thottbot
Khadgar EU sees Dirge spam in /2 almost daily. I pity anyone actually wanting it crafted.
评论来自
Thottbot
A) why is thott's AH value of plans only 900g and B) why is the "cost to make" value of almost all of these freakin epic craftables much lower than the real value. Lets say a universal cost of primal might is 80g, which is low for my server, but I'm trying to be conservative. We'll even say felsteel bars are only 10g (more like 15-25 on my server) and khorium bars are 4g each (8 for me). 8x80=640, 10x10=100, 10x4=40, 640+100+40=780g. Not 224.92g. Even if you look at AH values of mats according to thott itself (8g/khorium, 14g/felsteel, 90g/primal might) it's MORE than that! So why don't they take their own ah values of mats and add them up to get the true "cost to make" of these weapons?
评论来自
Thottbot
On European server Bloodhoof, oldest European server, this is spammed massively on trade channel EVERY DAMN DAY
评论来自
Thottbot
dirge dont sleep.... it waits
评论来自
Thottbot
Saw the weirdest thing the other day on Haomarush. Everyone was spamming '' which wasnt particularly odd, but the Dirge in question wasnt the normal one. It was clearly some bug/hack as it had
+6 bow skill
+1 Two Handed Sword skill
+1 damage (scope)
in addition to its normal stuff. Now im not an expert on item agumentation, but you cant stick scopes on melee weapons. And +1 skill in two handed swords is so pointless.
It must have been some sort of bug/hack. Has anyone seen it?
评论来自
Thottbot
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this is a dirge spammer once one of the people who are genuinly trying to buy/sell this wep and get reported for saying "Wts " and get a 1 month bann for it gets hold of em!.....LOSERS!..oh btw.. DIRGE DIRGE DIRGE DIRGE DIRGE DIRGE!
评论来自
Thottbot
Knock knock... Who's there? DIRGE
评论来自
Thottbot
I came, I saw, I dirged
Any more?
评论来自
Thottbot
When I was younger, was respected, my son!
评论来自
Thottbot
Everybody on my realm (balnazzar) spam dirge.
-suck my dirge
-tremble mortals and despair DIRGE has come to this world to consume us all
-don't touch my dirge
......
There is also a guild named dirge and alot chars with dirge in their names :)
Krompir from balnazzar realm
BTW MY DIRGE IS BIGGER THAN YOURS!
评论来自
Thottbot
Dirge - Whenever you kill a diseased target that yields experience or honor you have a 1/2/3/4/5% chance of the corpse riding as a free Ghoul. You can have a maximum of 2 Ghouls at one time. - WotlK alpha leech
TEH DAYS OF DIRGE WONT BE OVER IN WOTLK!
评论来自
Thottbot
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