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Получается 1 к 1?
А то было бы выгоднее продать Кристалл пропасти за 40г и купить Осколок грез за 15г или 5 Абсолютной пыли за 12,5г.
(цены адекватны на момент составления сообщения для сервера Вечная Песня)

Комментарий от 475214

нет, соотношение не 1к1,
результаты диза могут быть разными,
смотрите скриншот с MMO-Champion:
http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/september/shatter.jpg
"Каждая строка это 1 кристалл пропасти"

Комментарий от Depressor

Попробовал... Наложение чар 450. С двух кристаллов получил 16 и 18 Абсолютной Пыли. Ещё с двух по 2 и 3 Великой Космической Субстанции. Дальше пока неохота было...

Комментарий от 471720

Итог: невыгодно!
Если только срочно вы нуждаетесь в абсолютной пыли или великой космической субстанции

Комментарий от Dodgee

Хм..На моем сервере один кристалл пропасти стоит от 450 до 600голдов. А пачка были 190-250, пачка субстанций - 50г. Тобишь очень как не выгодно=((

Комментарий от Fabius

Зачарованние 450 вот что у меня вышло:

Абсолютная пыль - Средний шанс примерно 10,4 шт.
Великая Космическая Субстанция - 2,7 шт.

Результаты основаны на распылении 3-х стаков кристаллов

Пока фармил баджи в героиках что бы одеться на офф спек, заработал достаточно много денег. Нужно ориентироваться на рынок, после выхода патчей как правило вырастают в цене кристаллы, но со временем их на рынке получается переизбыток и на вершину поднимается субстанция иногда и пыль.

В любом случае, если Вы решили подзаработать таким образом, распылять следует как минимум пару стаков кристаллов.

Комментарий от 636293

В данный момент довольно выгодный рецепт, т.к. цены на кристаллы рухнули, а остальные реги сколько стоили, столько и стоят.

Комментарий от 736453

На уровне 450 наложения чар иногда самый дешёвый рецепт для прокачки. По крайней мере на моём сервере.
Если, конечно, качаетесь просто сами, а не продаёте чанты.

Комментарий от 926401

Самый дешевый предмет за хонор для 80 уровня - предмет в левую руку, стоит 190 очков и распыляется в 1 такой кристалл. Если Абсолютная пыль дорогая, что не редкость, то это самый дешевый способ собрать 300-400 шт для прокачки чантинга.

Комментарий от Wosstarg

140 Кристаллов пропасти (~5г за штуку), в итоге дали нам:
598 Абсолютная пыль(~2г)
245 Великая космическая субстанция (~10c)
Учитывая что с Абсолютной пылью кроме продажи можно делать много разных интересных вещей, я считаю что это очень даже не плохо.

Hotfixed to be avaible in live servers.

Tried and and got 9 dust from 1 crystal.
Picture of amounts in MMO:
http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/september/shatter.jpg

EDIT of le Importantse!
Blizzard will hotfix this and buff the amount of mats you will get from this (soon) so those penny stretchers.. save some mats now.

Earlier today we made a post in our Service Status forum (linked below) noting that a hotfix was being applied that would yield more materials for enchanters when disenchanting or shattering items. For those of you who may be waiting for this hotfix to disenchant some leftover items, please note that the hotfix has been delayed. We still plan to push this hotfix in the near future and will inform the community when this happens.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20677858456&postId=206757778352&sid=1

Комментарий от 446124

5 Free skill-ups out of this thing, since you're going to either use the dusts/essences anyway or you can sell them for more than you got the crystals for. Really nice seeing as how there's usually stiff competition for skill-ups from customers.

Комментарий от 102221

BLIZZARD HAS CHANGED THE PROC-RATING ON THIS, SO THESE CALCULATIONS ARE OLD! (Now gives infinite dust more often)

The previous post was deleted, because my math was wrong.
I did a new testing, this time with 106 Abyss Crystals.

I received a total of;
287 Infinite dust
209 Greater cosmic essence

Of 106 shatters, i received dust 31 times. This means that you will get Infinite dust 32.86% of the time you shatter an Abyss crystal.
And of course, you will get Greater cosmic essence the rest of the time. (67.14% of the time)

This means, from an Abyssal shatter you will average get;
9.25 Infinite dust
OR
2.78 Greater cosmic essence.

The lowest amount of Infinite dust i received from one shatter was, 7 - the highest 19 (I would like to note, there is ALOT of times you will only get 7-8-9 dust's)
The lowest amount of Greater cosmic essence i received from one shatter was, 2 - The highest 6

Also, remember RNG. This was my testing, don't take it too serious.

Комментарий от 349103

This is probably the greatest thing they have done a long time. Shards are very easy to come by with the introduction of ToC. You can farm normal mode and come out with a lot of shards in no time. This really helps casual players or people trying to get the higher end enchants because of the ridiculous dust prices.

Комментарий от 430736

According to Blizzard, it will go live on all US Servers at the next maintenance. So Tuesday October, 6th. It is already live on the EU servers because their maintenance has already happened. So don't fret if you're looking at the enchanting trainer and he has nothing new for you like I did.

Quote from Blizzard Poster: "A new enchanting recipe was recently hotfixed to become available. This recipe is available through enchanting trainers. The reason why you may not currently be seeing this recipe is that it requires the server to be restarted to become active. We expect this to be live on all US realms no later than next Tuesday, October 6, as that is when the next scheduled maintenance is set to occur."

Комментарий от 58442

Currently live on US servers.

I use this on 30 Abyss Crystals and it net me:

63x Greater Cosmic Essences
114x Infinite Dust

Between 2-3 essences or between 9-18 dust per shatter.

Комментарий от 125795

This is probably the greatest thing they have done a long time

Ye, last time they did something similar was when Formula: Void Shatter came.. so this nice thing was'nt a surprice really. But nice to see they are consistent.

Комментарий от IDrownFish

For a Blood Elf, this is an excellent way to level Enchanting to 450+. Because of the racial +10 bonus to Enchanting, a Blood Elf is considered to have a level 10 points higher for the purpose of learning new recipies.

However, when it comes time to use those recipes, the Blood Elf's skill is regarded as a normal level, without the bonus.

This means that a Blood Elf effectively learns recipes "10 points early". Not only that, but it also means that recipes change color 10 points later.

Long story short, for a Blood Elf, this recipe stays orange all the way through 455, making it the quickest, easiest, and cheapest way to grab those final skill points.

Комментарий от 7577

I'm sorry, but I had to clean up your formula to combine the constants. Here's a re-written form of it:

== ( * 37/12 ) + ( * 11/6 )

Right now on Stonemaul/US Horde, Infinite Dust is going for about 2g and Greater Cosmic Essence for about 20g. So if Abyss Crystals are less than (2 * 37/12) + (20 * 11/6) ~= 43g, they'd be worth shattering.

Комментарий от 451742

it seem Removed in 3.3, can anyone confirm wif this?
coz i did lost the skill to shatter the crystal anymore.

Комментарий от elgustav

Since the new year I've started shattering Abyss Crystals as their price has dropped to an average 35g while Greater Cosmic Essences and Infinite Dust are 17.9 and 1.9g each respectively (Azuremyst-EU). Since the rate of Infinite Dust and Greater Cosmic Essences has changed since the previous figures on here was recorded (in favour of Infinite Dust) I've been recording all the results of my shatters and I intend to update the results on here as they change.

From 391 Abyss Crystals (14/Jan/10 - 06/Apr/10) I received:

1787 x Infinite Dust
761 x Greater Cosmic Essences

Therfore on average for each Abyssal Shatter I have received:

4.57 x Infinite Dust
and
1.95 x Greater Cosmic Essences

= 4.57 * 1.9g + 1.95 * 17.9g = 43.52g worth of materials.

Hence by subtracting the original 35g spent on the Abyss (usually less) I am currently gaining atleast 8.52g in material value for each Abyss Crystal I shatter. That's close over 3K saved since I started (based on the lower profits at the start).

For everyone else since the hotfix Abyssal Shatter becomes profitable (empirically) when:
< 4.57 * + 1.95 *

I will try and update this as I have more numbers but bear in mind these are just my results and will never be perfect.

Комментарий от yodamc2

@Nzall

it does not matter if you substract AH fees or not.

The AH fee does matter if you are buying the mats from the AH for this sole purpose. (Note that he did say "Assuming you're reselling the mats you get from shattering on the AH" so it is the case.)
If you buy 3000g worth of crystals from the AH to resell them as crystals for 3100g, you are losing money, so the AH cut matters.
If you buy 3000g worth of crystals from the AH to shatter and resell, by the same token, the AH cut matters.

Of course if you get the crystals from drops, no it doesn't matter because yes you'd have to pay it either way. But elgustav did not seem to be referring to that case.

Комментарий от Random6

With a smaller sample size (only 50 abyss so far) I've received similar numbers to yours.

On average I received 4.94 infinite dust and 1.58 Greater cosmic essences.

Combing my sample with yours to increase the sample size gets the following:

979 + 247 = 1226 Infinite Dust
369 +79 = 448 Greater Cosmic Essences

Combined Total Number of Shatters: 208+50 =258

Therefor the updated average for each abyss shatter:

4.75 Infinite Dust
1.73 greater Cosmic Essences

My intuition tells me that as the sample size increases we will see the actual probability approach 4.75 infinite dust and 1.75 greater cosmic essence because people generally go with cleaner numbers when choosing probabilities. I could be wrong though.

Комментарий от rilgania

Today, I shattered 146 crystals. Here's the outcome:

777 infinite dust -> 5.32 per crystal
and
187 cosmic essence -> 1.28 per crystal

As the essences and crystals are very expensive on my server, I'm either very unlucky or numbers have changed (compare to elgustav's and Random6's posts). I'm going to continue to write down numbers and posting here if time allows it.

Комментарий от 575857

well, i just tried abyssal shattered 10 abyss crystal just today after seeing this page, it's not accurate because i only used 10 crystals, what can i say lol? i'm poor :P too bad so sad.
so i got 36 Infinite dusts and 26 greater cosmic essences from 10 abyss crystals.
my realm is Silver hands and the cosmic essences on AH now is about 15.76g each and infinite dusts are 1.22g each. and Abyss crystal at 44g each.
so the math starts with my tiny brain.
44x10=440g thats the price of abyss crystal.
36x1.22=43.92g thats the price of the infinite dusts.
26x15.76=409.76g thats the price of greater cosmic essences
So you will make 440g if u sell the abyss crystals and make 453.68g if you shatter them.
which is not really much differents and you can't really compare it with different realms and i havent even subtract the AH fees because i forgot how much % it was.
But i wouldnt risk shattering them anymore.

Комментарий от xxUnholyxxFTW

wouldn't it be a pain in the ass if this skill in enchanting is bugged O_O

Комментарий от rowanr

Easily the best way to get enchanting from 445 to 450. I did that today and it not only saved me a ton of gold and trade spam, but i got enough mats to make scrolls for useful enchants.

Комментарий от 658197

Abyss Crystal - 40g
Greater Cosmic Essence - 18g
Infinite Dust - 2g
Dream Shard - 6g

Luckily I bought 39 Abyss Crystal's off someone who was just wanting to get rid of them for 897g. That is 23g each, about half price. So after using Abyss Shatter on all of them, I received the following mats:

Dream Shard - 5 (0.128 per Abyss Shard (No, this is correct. Perhaps a glitch? I received this on the first Abyss Shatter))
Infinite Dust - 266 (6.8 per Abyss Shard)
Greater Cosmic Essence - 94 (2.4 per Abyss Shard)

Ended up selling 266 Infinite Dust for 1.2g each, which equaled 319g. Next, I sold the Dream Shard's for 5g each for 25g. Finally, I sold the Greater Cosmic Essence for 16g each, which gave me 1504g.

Cost: 897g
Total: 319 + 25 + 1504 = 1848g
Profit: 951g

Комментарий от Chakja

Have they buffed this or was I just super lucky? I just shattered 124 Abysses and got:

346 Cosmic Essence(2,79/Abyss)
680 Infinite Dust(5,48/Abyss)

Комментарий от Detin

patch 4.1
Its realy easy money from it. Buy few abyss crystals (5g @ my server) and sell essence(25g @ my server)/dusts (10g @ my server.

Комментарий от SirCake

I've shattered about 280 crystals the last couple of days, and I find that I get about
2 greater cosmic essences per crystal
and
4 infinite dust per crystal.

This gives a 10 g profit per crystal on an average ^^

Комментарий от Glica

Seems to be extremely profitable in cataclysm, since not many people are farming for greens/blues from wotlk content, I bought ~54 abyss crystals for 26g/each on average, and it yielded:
Total cost of Abyss Crystals: 1404g
410x Infinite Dust (5g/each on a heavy-populated server) = 2050g
103x Greater Cosmic Essence (15g/each on a heavy-populated server) = 1545
Profit Yield: 2191g
Time it took: ~2 minutes

When making, I've got up to 19x infinite dusts in one shatter, and up to 6x cosmic essences in one shatter. Pretty nice, the lowest amount of infinite dusts i've got, is 7 dusts, and lowest essences is 2.

Комментарий от akakuala

in 4.3 :D

15 Shatters i got

87 Infinite Dust
17 Greater Cosmic Essence

1.13 GCE Per shatter Or 5.8 ID...

PS did this in a LVL 25 Guild

Комментарий от 338957

From 25 shatters, I got 162x Infinite Dust, and 22x Greater Cosmic Essence. I usually got 7-10 dusts or 2-4 essences, but one time I got 14 dusts. My guild is level 19, so I don't have Bountiful Bags. Patch is 4.3.2.

Комментарий от shotsing

At many servers this a great way off making gold!

Комментарий от 995415

My best way to make gold tbh, the WOTLK enchanting mats are selling VERY well on a lot of servers.

Did a shatter of 113 crystals that I have been gathering up,

They shattered into Infinite Dust 74 times out of 113 and the remaining 39 was Greater Cosmic Essences.
This gave me 693 Infinite Dust and 132 Greater Celestial Essences.

The shattering ratio seems to be 1:3 (rounded up) when it comes to Infinite dust : Greater Cosmic Essences.
The mean Dust recieved will be 9,4 and the mean Essence is 3,4.

Комментарий от 967962

This recipe is extremely unpredictable, on my (very packed) server avg dust price is 5-7g/ea, essence 7g/ea and abyss crystal 25-35g/ea.

I did numerous shatters of 50+ crystals and sometimes I produced great quantity of profitable dust but sometimes there was crap ton of loss generating essences -_-, especially if you get many procs of 2x essence, you're likely to LOSE gold on this. Even if I did get lots of dust (>65% of results) this wasn't any extraordinry profit as procs are often 7,8,9,10 with rare 15-19 proc, so if you substract essence gold loss your profit barely makes it for AH cut.

Unless you nail some deep undercutting scrubs on abyss crystals alone, I'd steer clear from that recipe as a profitmaker. Because it is not, at least on my server where prices aren't ridiculously high because of huge market volume.

Комментарий от 960102

Requires only 390 enchanting currently on live servers. EDIT: Turned yellow at 400, green at something beetween 405-408 (don't remember), gray at 410.

Комментарий от 1207347

BTW you have to be 390 skill before getting this!

Комментарий от deathisnear24

RIP Abyssal Shatter Profit 9/30/09 - 11/13/14

Комментарий от clover

Note that under the trainer it is listed as "Essence or Dust"

Комментарий от Reckish

Shadowlands Update:
200 Abyss Crystals =

938 Infinite Dust
337 Greater Cosmic Essence

1 Crystal = 4.69 dust and 1.69 essence

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