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Если вы играете за Альянс, персонаж не проходил события Battle for Azeroth и вы не видите Зидорми, чтобы вернуться в прошлую версию Тирисфальских лесов, то отправляйтесь в Штормград, отыщите у подножия башни магов Архивариус Томас и пройдите сценарий «Битва за Лордерон». После этого Зидорми появится в указанной точке.

Комментарий от Glummar

Если у вас новый аккаунт и вы столкнулись с проблемой связанной с выполнением достижения "Конфета или жизнь" в Восточных королевствах во время празднования Тыквовина, когда Тирисфальские леса залиты чумой, а нужного НПС Зидорми для возврата в прошлое нету, то вот что вам как и мне может помочь.

1. Вам нужно выполнить цепочку заданий Battle for Azeroth: поставленная задача по освобождению Таланджи до момента когда вы с ней пребудете в Дазар,Алор, после этого у вас появиться Зидорми в Тирисфальских лесах /way #18 69.4 62.8 , НО это еще не все!
2. Зидорми у вас то появиться, но при диалоге с ним не будет доступна смена времени на прошлое. Чтобы оно появилось, мне помогло выполнение небольшой цепочки заданий для достижения Возвращение в Лордерон, которая начинаеться у НПС Калия Менетил. Сразу как был получен ачив, я смог попасть в старый Лордерон и Тирисфаль

Комментарий от Cofferogue

Для вновьворвавшихся в игру с голых акков: достаточно сделать Возвращение в Лордерон, начинает Калия Менетил в Оргри. Зидорми появится на своём обычном месте, хотя на карте её видно не будет. Так что просто летим в точку и меняем фазу.

Комментарий от eterastery

Если вы за Альянс и проходили БфА другим персонажем, а Зидорми не видно:

1. Поговорите с Искателем героев, который отправит вас к Андуину (квест Battle for Azeroth: прилив войны).

2. Поговорите с Джайной в порту Штормграда (квест Кул-Тирас) и скажите, что вы это уже слышали.

3. Вас телепортирует в Боралус, из которого можно благополучно возвращаться, т. к. Зидорми тем временем появится в Тирисфальских лесах.

Зидорми - in Даларан (Northrend), she stands near the Пещеры Времени portal.
Зидорми - near Theramore in Пылевые топи, she offers to send players to the city before the events of Theramore's Fall and back.
Зидорми - in Выжженные земли near the road leading in from Болото Печали, she will send players to before the Iron Horde Invasion and back.
Зидорми - at the Вершина Кунь-Лай in Вершина Кунь-Лай, she will send you to the Peak before the Legion attack and back.
Зидорми - near Valor's Rest at the entrance of Силитус from Кратер Ун'Горо, she will send you to Silithus before the Wound in the World (Sargeras' defeat in Анторус, Пылающий Трон) and back.
Ронорму - at the Scarab Dias at Силитус's southern edge with Ан'Кираж: Павшее Королевство. He will send you to Silithus before the Wound in the World (Sargeras' defeat in Анторус, Пылающий Трон) and back.
Зидорми - south of Lor'danel in Темные берега, she will send you to before the Burning of Teldrassil which occurred during the War of the Thorns (BFA release event) and allow you to visit Дарнас.
Зидорми - near Lordaeron Keep/Ruins of Undercity in Тирисфальские леса, she will send you to before the Siege of Lordaeron which occurred during the War of the Thorns (BFA release event) and allow you to visit Подгород.
Зидорми - in southern Нагорье Арати, she will send you to before the events shown in the Arathi Highlands Warfront (Battle for Azeroth) and back.
Зидорми - in Ульдум within Ramkahen, she will send to before the events of the Patch 8.3 Visions of N'zoth assaults and back.
Зидорми - in Вечноцветущий дол near Mogu'shan Palace, she will send to before the events of the Patch 8.3 Visions of N'zoth assaults and back.

Комментарий от cheheze

What are the requirements to see her? She is not there for me.

Комментарий от Atremis

As of 8.0, after the events of The Battle for Lordaeron, you need to talk to her in order to access the main hub of Hallow's End (The courtyard of Lordaeron) and Brill, the village where you can quench the Horseman's flames.

Комментарий от Blue47

Zidormi was missing for me in Trisfal Glades at the marked place on the map. Similarly missing in/around the Ruins. I used a target macro and combed the zone just to be sure but she fails to appear anywhere for me. Was unable to complete Hallow's End questline on this character.

Комментарий от Sarielais

She appears after completing The Battle for Lordaeron.

Комментарий от ekatsu

So apparently if you have the quest Сбросить бомбы-вонючки and you try to speak to Zidormi you will not get the option to go back in time. You'll need to cancel that quest first.

Комментарий от Zeniza

For the ones who can't find Zidormi and are stuck on the present time after BfA expansion. Just need to go to Orgrimmar and get Battle for Azeroth: поставленная задача. Later, follow the quest chain until you speak with Натанос Гнилостень and told him you already know the story that happened in Битва за Подгород. That’s should unlock you Zidormi in Tirisfal glades.

Not sure how to help the alliance, but should be similar.

Комментарий от snowthistle

If you're having issues seeing Zidormi and you're stuck in the destroyed Tirisfall Glade, fly to Deathknell (Undead starter area, due west of UC) and back. It should fix the issue for you.

Комментарий от Scrubjay

Was in the end of Shadowlands phase. The chat bubble was not appearing in the map.

Found her at Coords: 69, 63

Комментарий от thulsadoom

During Winter Veil I ported to UC only to find out that Zidormi is not at her usual location in Tirisfal Glades.

I was on a level 60 Dracthyr with no BFA quests and only SL quests. All my other max level toons and my level 47 Undead Monk can see Zidormi. All quests were either DF or SL, and this toon never did Chromie time.

I went to the Oribos quest room looking for Zidormi as suggested by another player. I did not find Zidormi, but took the quest from Calia Menethil.

The following quests took no more than an hour, and I have never completed them on another toon.

Call to Lordaeron (accept quest from calia Menethil in Oribos and talk to nearby npc to port to Tirisfal Glades)
Assemble the Forsaken
The Blight Congress
Consulting our Allies
House of Plagues
Essence of Plague
Feed the Eater
Embodiment
Return to Brill
Use Lilian’s Hearthstone to return to Brill
Remedy of Lordaeron
The Desolate Council
Path of the Dark Rangers
A Walk with Ghosts

After completion of the above quests, the portals are visible in the ruins next to the orb of translocation to Silvermoon. Zidormi is now visible on the mini map. Talk to her to change back to the past timeline.

Using the the translocation device in SIlvermoon will land any of my toons back in the present timeline.

I have to ask her to return me to the present time, then to return me to the past time line. Go figure.

Комментарий от ContrlAltCreate

ALLIANCE

If you are in Trisfall Glades and you have the debuff "Veiled. You are disguised" you will have to complete the questline for the "Return to Lordaeron" Achievement, even if you have completed it on alts/your main.

It is in Oribos, called "Eyes of the Wolf" to start it. Enable low level quests and its in the area where you can change Covenants.

Комментарий от Moonsept

I unlocked Zidormi by doing the BFA quest and i can see her in tirisfal glades. But when i talk to her, i have no option to click on and port back in time. Anyone have a solution ?

Комментарий от Rohnen

I can confirm that after you do the initial quests for Battle for Azeroth, it will unlock Zidormi. Had to do it for the Brewfest quest Pink Elekks on Parade. As soon as I got the achievement "Welcome to Zandalar," ported from Orgrimmar to Undercity and there she was. Hope this helps.

Комментарий от PeculiarDK

For Alliance players that are unable to find Zidormi in Tirisfal Glades (so you can see old Undercity and old Brill), you have to complete the Eyes of the Wolf quest chain which starts in Oribos. Once you complete the quest chain, you will be awarded the Return To Lordaeron achievement. After you have the achievement, Zidormi will show up in Tirisfal Glades.

Zidormi's location is 69.4, 62.8. She will show up on your map as a white icon near Balnir Farmstead in Tirisfal Glades.

NOTE: Depending on which content you've completed in the past, you may also have to complete the Battle for Lordaeron scenario. This scenario is no longer available as a quest, so you will have to talk to Archivist Thomas in the Stormwind Mage's Quarter. His coordinates are 49.6, 85.6.

Комментарий от mcbison

All the Zidormi should be connected flip one to the past they all do, each time I come to Arathi Highlands or Blastedlands or Darkshore it's in the pressent

Комментарий от ns88

Doesnt offer me any dialogue so i cant phase.....

Комментарий от Ranadicus

For those doing Hallow's End quests, if Zidormi is missing from Tirisfal Glades and you're stuck in the present unable to get to the past before BFA you can use the Stink Bombs Away! trick to reach old Undercity. For the unaware, after you complete your bombing run through Undercity don't click the return button, instead you can relog and the game will port you to the Brill graveyard in the old timeline.

Комментарий от elis992

I had issue seeing Zidormi on my Horde but managed to fix it after completing the short 30 min questline. A Call To Lordaeron. in Oribos next to NPC where u chose ur covenant. Go through series of quest and once u reach quest Path of the Dark Rangers take one more quest from that NPC finish it and then fly where Zidormi should have been. It should be fixed. :)

Комментарий от trezzza

As a Horde player doing the BFA starting quests + a relog made Zidormi appear but yeah this is a mess a whole Holiday event locked behind buggy phasing.

Комментарий от Abbotta

So it is 2024. For those of us who are predominantly horde AND play occasionally, we are being punished. Yes, I could go do the annoying steps to complete the quest (which btw I've found about a dozen different versions and none quite seem to work right). However, if you are are Alliance it's no biggie - just go outside a viable city (Stormwind) and gather your stuff.

To make matters worse all of the items are soulbound which means all the work I did gathering on my Horde that cannot see the Old Undercity is now worthless.

Lazy Lazy Lazy programming Blizzard. And this could easily be solved by temporarily allowing those without the questline go to Undercity OR making the items warband so any character could use it (I do have a few low level alliance).

Absolutely NO ONE should be hampered from enjoying the holiday events!

End Rant.

Комментарий от Cecoura

annyoing but fixable.. take the BFA intro quest (+ skip it) and then when you arrived in BFA.. go back to main city.... and teleport again to undercity.. you will die again. but the NPC is now there so you can swap timelines :/

Комментарий от Deathswait

My phasing was messed up, I searched around and this worked for me. I can only confirm that this worked on my character, which, to my knowledge, has not had any progress in the BfA storyline. (read footnote)

First,
run this script:
/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(65656))

If you dont trust the script, you can find it here: Призыв в Лордерон

(If this is false):

Second,

Find: Калия Менетил

Located here: Калия Менетил#map

/way 50.74 75.80

Third,

Accept Quest: Призыв в Лордерон

Speak to Внушающий ужас маг Отрекшихся for a teleport

You will be teleported to Tirisfal Glades. From there, simply go to Зидорми and you should be able to go to old undercity.

I did not have to complete the quest, just had to accept it and use the teleport.

Disclaimer:
After some reading, apparently its a mixed bag on how or if this works. It has something to do with where you progressed for BfA and if you used any skip lore options during Shadowlands. I'm not entirely sure how this works, or why this is even an issue. It seems like a big oversight. Apparently, worst case scenario, if you complete Возвращение в Лордерон questline, it should be fixed.

Комментарий от Kilrathi3

This Zidormi is having time zone issues.
you see the big green field and ask to be time changed and then see it again
then time change again to see the old zone.

Комментарий от WillowFae

The War Within - Lunar Festival

The bug still occurs, especially for Horde; you can see Zidormi but there is no option to go back in time. You have to complete Calia's Forsaken quest "Call to Lordaeron" (located in Orgrimmar) all the way to completion to get Zidormi (Tirisfal Glades) to regain her future-past powers again. For extra measure, complete the Battle For Azeroth introductory questline (talk to the Orc guard next to the mission board at the Warchief's throne room) all the way to setting up camp at The Great Seal and choosing a zone to quest in. Once those two checks have been completed, Zidormi should be functioning normally. All of this will collectively take about an hour, less if you're geared for late-TWW content.

This is what happens when you put so many layers on top of a zone locked behind questlines and different expansions that they get lost in the sauce and so do the bugs and problems that come with them. Not intending any disrespect to the teams, but sorting out spaghetti code is clearly not their forte.

Notice: For the sake of simplicity and efficiency, complete "Call to Lordaeron" first. If Zidormi hasn't regained her powers, complete the BFA introductory. The first is a check dependent on the zone, while the latter is a secondary check in case Calia's quest fails to resolve the problem.

Комментарий от teaa

horde players if she isn’t giving you the option to go back you can go to silvermoon then take the orb of translocation in the room behind lorthemar to get to old tirisfal/undercity.

Комментарий от MrDKOz

I was doing this quest after time warping, however when I got there the Undercity was closed and upon speaking to Zidormi I didn't get the option to view it before it was destroyed.

However I flew over to Deathknell, landed and went back and it had reverted back to before it was destroyed, allowing me to continue.

Комментарий от mythiiara

I'm going to post this over here, as I did so on the Call to Lordaeron page. Hopefully it helps!

I've made a whole account in hopes of making the easiest way of getting into the Undercity known.
As a previous commenter down below has said, you don't have to go through the whole questline! This saved my life. Pick up "Призыв в Лордерон" and get into Trisfal Glades. Go through the line as normal until you pick up the quest "Переговоры о чуме" from Lilian. You only need to accomplish a few quests to reach this point. Once you've picked that up, you just need to fly back to Зидорми, and she should allow you to travel back in time and get into the Undercity. I hope this works for everyone, and I apologize if it doesn't :( here's hoping a less complex method comes about someday soon.

Thank you so much to 1smallfavor for letting this be known! Now I can finally get that Undercity Rat I've been hunting for.

Комментарий от Nillanu

I just completed the entire Return to Lordaeron quest chain. I checked after Every quest to see when Zidormi provided the option to change the time line. It was only after I completed the last quest, A Walk with Ghosts, that the option finally appeared. There was not a skip option.

Level 70, Horde. This toon hasn't quested since Wod (It's only lvl 70 because of the radiant echo event before TWW).

Комментарий от Mepoc

I have done everything mentioned in these comments and in several reddit threads and I still can't get Zidormi to give my character (created during the pandaria remix) the option to see Old Tirisfal Glades

For the love of the Light, Blizzard: please stop messing with the zones like this and if you absolutely have to stop hiding the option to see the old zones behind obscure quest chains

Комментарий от FixManTx

Zidormi wasn't giving me the option to revert the timeline so after reading comments I flew over to Deathknell and sure enough that reverted Tirisfal Glades and I was able to get into Undercity.

Комментарий от FredtheUndead

Its completely broken now. Great work Blizzard. 3rd year in a row its been broken, now even the Call to Lordaeron thing doesn't fix your garbage phasing system.

3rd year of sending ANOTHER bug report on EVERY character this doesn't work on, just SCREAMING into the void with NOBODY listening.

Комментарий от coldautumn

Ran into the common issue of Zidormi not having any dialogue options and was able to fix it by doing the BFA intro. Accepting Call to Lordaeron and flying over Brill did nothing for me.

Комментарий от martanius

If it doesn't show the option to revert Tirisfal to before the war phase, try to abandon the quest Call to Lordaeron. In your quest log it should be under the "Oribos" category.

Комментарий от Njalyaia

Battle for Lordaeron needs to be done for you see talk to Zidormi to return to time before plague

Комментарий от Brassroses

I figured out what to do if you can see Zidormi in Tirisfal Glades but can't go to the present. You need to to Oribos in shadowlands and do the quest to unlock the dark ranger bloodelf look. There's an undead quest giver where you pick your covenant that will start the quest for you. This just worked for my husband who recently got into the game and never fully played BFA

I hope this helps someone

Комментарий от Maxxou

I have a Horde character that I leveled entirely through Remix content, and since I barely did any old Horde quests, this NPC does not appear for me in Orgrimmar. The old version of Undercity is also inaccessible.

While working through the Return to Lordaeron storyline, starting with Призыв в Лордерон, and after completing Прогулка с призраками, Зидорми finally offered me the option to travel to the past version of the zone. This allowed me to enter the old Undercity again.

Комментарий от Fezgig

Okay, if you (Alliance side) want to open up Zidormi, in the Seat of Knowledge (81.07, 29.61) for Battle for Azeroth access to the zone Valley of the Four Winds, you must complete up to Таинственная печать. It all starts at this quest/story line. Возвращение короля-воина.

Комментарий от kenkel412

I spent hours today trying to figure this out and the only solution that worked for me was creating a new Undead character with the starting zone as legacy Tirisfal Glades. I ran straight to Brill and the elder was there!

Комментарий от FixManTx

Fresh level 22 Horde DK that so far has only done some WotLK quests and cooking/fishing dailies. Took the portal from Org and Zidormi had dialog but no choices. Flew into Deathknell and back and Tirisfal was back to pre-war and didn't have to go see Zidormi.

Комментарий от ivanstrel

Made a Mag'Har Orc, tried to get to Howling Fjord (Borean Tundra is so played out), but the Org portal to Tirisfal plopped me down at a Zidormi that just taunted me, asking if I wanted to see what it looked like before it was destroyed. With no option to change times.

Ran to WPL, took the flight path at the Bulwark to Undercity, and that changed the phase for me.

Now, I'm stuck trying to escape Undercity.

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