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Комментарий от
FREEZEball
Пока неясно, с кого будет падать, но если упало в группе, между всем алхимиками с навыком больше 524 и не имеющими этот рецепт будет произведён ролл. После чего передать рецепт нельзя.
Если вы выучили этот рецепт, то дракона можете скрафтить, следуя простому гайду, написанному мной, вот
здесь
.
Комментарий от
Califpornia
Рецепт добывается с помощью археологии - может содержаться в
Канопа
Для получения этого артефакта необходим навык 525.
Комментарий от
Katis
Подтверждаю
,
рецепт
выпал с
Канопа
с учётом покупки реагентов у торговца и с аукциона, маунт обошелся примерно в 50000 золота.
Канопа
прокает только от сбора артефактов
Тол'вир
, сбор фрагментов которых возможен в
Ульдуме
.
Алхимия 525
Археология 525
Удачи!
Комментарий от
451366
Скажите плз, ктио знает, а выкопать рецепт может только алхимик? или впринципе любой, у кого есть археология?
Комментарий от
Adrial
Есть информация, что только алхимик увидит рецепт в канопе, если он всё-таки дропнется.
Имею алхимию 525 и археологию 525. Не выпало рецепта в первой открытой. Буду ждать следующую.
Комментарий от
Baallok
Это просто охереть.Пошла в Ульдум качать археологию,в итоге сразу же попалась канопа и из нее же упал рецепт.Аж глазам не поверила...
Интересно было бы знать,каков примерно шанс прока канопы.Я так понимаю,я выкопала если и не первая,то в числе первых на Ревущем Фьорде.
Комментарий от
343365
Вообще как бы по идее дроп должен быть больше 3%, потому что открывают её все, а падает только алхимикам.
Комментарий от
phoenix76
Наконец-то мне дропнулся этот рецепт. Выпал с 5-ой канопы. Итого: 5 каноп, 24 серых и 3 рарных артефакта (кольцо, подвеска и пет-рука), 1,5 недели нудного фарма. Желающие выкопать рецепт, огромной удачи вам, железных нервов и ангельского терпения.
Комментарий от
ShestOFF
Ребят может быть кто нибудь знает тактику чтобы сгонять раскопки из зон Калимдора в Ульдум! Или знает точки появления раскопок по цепочке.. Отпишитесь!
Комментарий от
phoenix76
Скажу так по поводу вашего вопроса: никакой закономерности в появлении точек в Ульдуме нет, это чистый рандом. Я пробовал собрать все 4 точки в Ульдуме. Это долгий процесс, но ждать после этого повышения шанса повторного появления точки в Ульдуме (типа, собрал все точки в Ульдуме, выкопал 1 из них, а она опять появилась в Ульдуме) нет смысла.
Собирал интереса ради статистику касательно каждой из 4 точек на карте Калимдора в отдельности (а точнее: где потом появляется новая точка раскопок после выкапывания, например, 1-ой точки, потом так же со 2-ой, 3-ей и 4-ой) в течение 5-6 дней, пока мне не надоело каждый раз лезть с ручкой в блокнот. Уверяю вас, что ни одного случая появления какой-нибудь закономерности в появлении последующих точек у меня за всё время не было, что подтверждает тот факт, что точки респятся рандомно.
Лично я пользовался следующий тактикой: как только в Ульдуме появлялась ОДНА точка раскопок, я сразу летел туда и выкапывал её, потом возвращался к остальным трём и 4-ой, появившейся в новом месте (конечно, если она не появлялась повторно в Ульдуме, а такое было нередко). И так каждый раз: одна точка в Ульдуме - слетал - выкопал - вернулся. Поверьте, за 3 часа копания по такой тактике точек в Ульдуме было больше, чем когда я пытался собрать сперва все 4 точки в Ульдуме и потом их разом выкопать (так что не советую так поступать).
В общем, решать вам. Попробуйте разные варианты копания, если хотите, но всё равно в итоге поймёте, что тут рандом и ещё раз рандом (ну и частично ваша удача).
Обновлено в реалиях аддона MoP:
На навыке археологии 600 в Пандарии теперь можно собирать артефакты старого контента, сдавая
восстановленные артефакты
Бранну Бронзобороду
в обмен на фрагменты артефактов интересующей вас расы, что облегчает сборку артефактов любых старых рас и артефактов тол'виров в частности, особенно если лень летать-копать по другим континентам.
Комментарий от
354669
Выпала из первой же канопы, до канопы собрал 4 обычных артефакта
Комментарий от
Mitt
От phoenix76 16 дней назад (Обновление 4.0.3)
BIOSSS, а вот тут вы не правы: алхимия не должна быть 525, чтобы рецепт дропнулся. С чего вы это взяли? Вон, на англоязычном вовхеде у людей и с навыком алхимии 450, и с 463 рецепт падал. Так что навык 525 необходим только для изучения этого рецепта, а если он у вас ещё не достигнут, рецепт будет мирно дожидаться изучения в вашей сумке, пока вы не апнете себе алхимию до максимума.
Как насчет открыть глаза? Или хоть что-то читать кроме просьб о уже написанном?
Комментарий от
kenteg
Выпал с первой же канопы, перед этим собрал несколько Тол'вирских артефактов.
Мачкану Черный Шрам.
Комментарий от
DrGrant
Выпал со 2 канопы, перед этим собрал 11 обычных артов, рарные кольцо и подвеску.
Рад безумно, всем удачи в корейском фарме!
Комментарий от
Lunatikus
Наконец выпал после недельного фарма(12+ часов в день) Калимдора.
У Тол'виров собраны все рарники, кроме посоха и меча. Простых артефактов 44 штуки, 10 каноп. Удачи, что б вам с первой канопы выпало.
Галакронд, Тифея
Комментарий от
791825
Выпал с 7 канопы, копал 9 дней подряд - каждый день выкапывал 1 канопу, кроме тех дней, когда попадались редкие артефакты - после сбора 150 кусков пропадало желание копать. В итоге выкопал 37 артефактов Тол'вир (из них 2 редких), 89 ночных эльфов (из них 6 редких), 2 дворфских, около 20 окаменелостей и около 10 тролльских.
Можно подсчитать некоторые цифры:
приблизительный шанс появления раскопок в Ульдуме - 37/121 ~ 30%;
шанс дропа канопы - 1/7 ~ 14%:
шанс дропа рецепта - 1/7 ~ 14%.
Комментарий от
ROmko
Сейчас я соберу Канопу. О боги вовхеда, помогите мне с дропом! :)
Комментарий от
696059
выпал с первой канопы =)
ткач.
Комментарий от
Wunders
Рецепт упал с 3-ей канопы, после патча 4.0.6 где добавили еще кучу точек раскопок толвир в Ульдуме, копать стало быстрее и приятнее, прокает примерно каждую 3-ую раскопку.
Комментарий от
693458
53 артефакта толвиров. Выкопал подвеску жуков и кольцо. 6 каноп. 7к голда на древние письмена. Рецепта нету. Точек и правда добавили много, но шанс по-прежнему остался низким. Удачи в раскопках.
Комментарий от
448515
Упал с первой же канопы!
Это был 7ой собранный мной артефакт тол`виров.
Комментарий от
816555
Мне так не повезло, к сожалению. Выпало с 7-ой канопы. Копала дней 6, ничем другим не занимаясь практически. Первая канопа была шестым артефактом у толвиров. Первые 3 выпадали очень редко, т.к. приходилось собирать редкие артефакты по 150 частей, не говоря о обычных. Спасали попадающиеся "Толвирские древние письмена". И пару раз канопа выпадала повторно, после сбора предыдущей. Летала по всему Калимдору пока в Ульдуме не появлялось 2-3 лопатки, на мой взгляд так удобнее.
В общем всем желаю удачи!
Комментарий от
realht
Получил рецепт со 2-й канопы. Чистый рандом, согильдивец уже более 30 открыл и пусто.
Комментарий от
351085
Видимо я настолько лакер что просто ужас. Упал с 1ой же канопы=) перед этим выкопал всего два обычных артефакта. Сказал знакомой с СД - готова была съесть меня с потрохами))) до этого на каче упал попугай в бути^^
рандом дроп такой рандом дроп =/
Комментарий от
693784
Выпал из 5
Канопы
, Пастьпорву - Азурегос (орда), охотился за ним с выхода Катаклизма. Собирал по 1-2 раскопа в Ульдуме в день.
Археология 525, Алхимия 525.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Крафт -
1х
Отделанная пирием кристаллиновая колба
и
8 х
Пески времени
продаются у
Ясмин
, в Ульдуме (оазис на С-З), стоимость - 5000 и 3000 за шт. соответственно, из вариантов экономии - Гоблин может приобрести по 4000 и 2400, еще м.б. 10% скидка для членов гилдии 24 уровня и старше, рядом есть почта для пересылки;
12х
Истинное золото
, трансмут у Алхимиков с кд 1 сутки;
8х
Настой ветров
- 1 -
Хрустальная колба
, и по 8х
Неустойчивая жизнь
,
Вуаль Азшары
,
Хлыстохвост
;
8х
Настой силы титанов
- 1 -
Хрустальная колба
, и по 8х
Неустойчивая жизнь
,
Пепельник
,
Хлыстохвост
;
8х
Масло окаменения
- прок 1-2, 8 х
Слепоглазка-альбинос
, ловиться в Подземье.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Итого на настои и масло -
16х
Хрустальная колба
,
128х
Неустойчивая жизнь
,
64х
Вуаль Азшары
,
128х
Хлыстохвост
,
64х
Пепельник
,
8 х
Слепоглазка-альбинос
.
Истинное золото
(не забывайте про откат трансмутации - 1 шт/день) -
48х (12х3)
Слиток колчедана
,
и по 120х (12х10)
Неустойчивого огоня
,
Неустойчивого воздуха
и
Неустойчивой воды
.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Всем Удачи!
Комментарий от
834327
получил с 4той канопы,перед тем выполнил все ачивки на археологию,как понел ето увеличивает процент дропа фиала,но спорить не буду ето сугубо мое предположение,собрал 22 редких и 104 простых артефакта,время сбора две нидели 4-7ч в день))удачи и терпения
Комментарий от
CrazyREMBO
выпал с 7й канопы, которая являлась 98м артефактом толвиров (из которых 4 редких: скарабеи, кольцо, пет, маунт), попутно собрал 371 артефакт ночных эльфов, 143 окаменелости и т. д.
примечательно что 6я канопа была тридцать каким то артефактом, то есть я более 60 толвирских артефактов не видел каноп
всем удачи =))
Комментарий от
DemiSang
Сервер Седогрив.
Выпал с первой же канопы, а канопа в свою очередь была 3-м экземпляром у Толвиров.
На тот момент археология и алхимия были 525
Комментарий от
780247
Копала этот рецепт с середины февраля. Выпал 1 июня с 17й канопы, когда я уже была полна отчаяния )))
Реги собрала еще в начале марта )
Удачи всем в этом нелегком кротском деле ^^
Андариелька, ЧШ
Комментарий от
Sam69
Выпал с 20 канопы. Копал примерно 4 месяца, собрал все эпики тол'виров,кроме меча и маунта.
Всем удачи в поисках!)
СД
Комментарий от
783308
Выпал мне вчера. 18я по счету канопа. Собрал 104 серых арта + 2 рарника (кольцо и подвес со скарабеями). Копал 1 месяц и 2 дня (каждый день по 4 часа + выходные по 8).
Мини гайд по получению=)))
1. Настройтесь сразу что придется копать долго. Не расчитывайте на комменты аля "Ура! первая канопа и в ней рец!". Рандом жесточайший. Читая зарубежные форумы часто видел посты типа "37 каноп - рецепта нет".
Зарнее поставьте себе планку ниже которой паниковать не стоит. Я например, сразу решил - для получения буду копать не меньше 30 каноп. (берем прок пускай даже и заниженный - 3%, с 30 каноп хоть одна должна выпасть). И твердо решил - задача не рецепт выкопать а 30 каноп=))) Очень помогает на самом деле, т.к. после 15-17 канопы начинают лезть всевозможные панические мысли=)))
2. Скачайте себе на комп и переодически посматривайте на скриншот открытой канопы с рецептом. Это стимулирует копать дальше и возвращает веру в то, что рецепт все же существует. Я пользовался вот таким скрином
http://i.imgur.com/TWMFB.jpg
. И да - это вдохновляет.
3. Цифры - ребята с вовхеда проводят масштабный опрос всех кто копает рецепт
http://ru.wowhead.com/forums&topic=180124
. По их данным выходит
Drop rate for alchemists: 9.0%
Standard Error: 0.9%
95% Confidence Interval: 1.8%
Loots: 86
Total opens: 955
Мне кажется достаточно актуально - выводится только дроп по алхимикам.
4. Тактика. Я лично летал по Калимдору за каждой точкой "загоняя" ее в Ульдум. Копил в Ульде четыре точки и потом их копал. Попутно я выкопал все арты НЭ и Окаменелостей. Близы обещали заметно снизить прок полностью выкопанных расс. Прок действительно снизился, но незначительно. Однако даже эта незначительная величина очень мне помогала. Толвиры стали прокаться заметно чаще. Доходило до того что прилетая на 4 точки я в итоге выкапывал 8-9 и собирал по 160 - 170 частей + 3-4 скрижали ускоряющие сборку.
По такой тактике после каждого захода мне стабильно прокала одна канопа, что в целом радовало=)) (а бывало что три подряд прокались). Минус понятен - собрать все четыре точки это несколько часов времени.
5. МЕНЯЙТЕ ВРЕМЯ! Часто на форумах я видел "Блин копнул с утра для прикола - опа Канопа с рецем! А до этого 100500 ночей убил". Как вышло у меня. Копал каждый день с 9 вечера до 2-3 ночи. Месяц копал. Вчера по ряду причин не пошел на работу - сел копать. В районе двух дня прокается канопа, открываю - рецепт.... Больше похоже на ритуал конечно, но все же. Фиг его знает эту механику рандома у Близов.
6. Не ведитесь на посты аля "Мне кажется выполнение всех ачив по археологии увеличивает шанс", "Я слышал, что если открыть канопу на БГ - шанс прока возрастает". Начнутся сомнения, мысли всякие (это кстати касается и моего 5го пункта=))) ). Копайте, копайте и еще раз копайте. Рецепт ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО появиться.
7. В заключении. Трезво себя оцените со стороны. Нужны : стальные нервы, железобетонная воля (особенно когда в ги все в рейд - а у тебя раскопки по плану), адовое терпение и огромное желание. Работающим (как мне) еще сложнее - копать будете до ночи или рискуете на год все растянуть. Если вы неуверены в том, что вам это действительно ну просто ОЧЕНЬ необходимо - не копайте. просто не копайте и не начинайте. Нервы здоровье дороже. Для меня лично это единственный маунт в ВОВ, которого я реально хотел. И не просто как маунта, а именно как рецепт алхимика. Свой рецепт. У меня лок, демо, алхимик-не хватало только умения в дракона превращатся=))) Ну это уже тараканы.
8. УДАЧИ! Много удачи. Пусть рецепт вам дропнется с первой же канопы=))))
П.С. многим данный пост покажется пособием для душевнобольных. согласен. но все это пройдено на своей шкуре и все это реально мне помогло.
Исходник - Дракономор.
Комментарий от
atiamma
ну вот пришла и моя очередь оставить коммент по поводу рецептика))) алхимия 525, собрала кольцо, и сразу выпало собирать первую в моей жизни канопу))) почитала посты и на удачу не надеялась, так как у меня всего 3 серых от тол'виров и кольцо императора.... собрала, открыла тут же на месте... и вот он рецепт))) радости не было предела.... совет... не надейтесь на лучшее... готовьтесь к худшему.. эт закон подлости)))
Орда, Седогрив
Комментарий от
Troel
Друг попросил прокачать археологию с нуля (терпения нет и усидчивости). Спросила, что ему надо до счастья. Сказал куклу бы хотелось (но не обязательно) да маунта ездового (скелетик), но главное что бы было 525.
Отправилась на Калимдор качать.
Результат:
Сейчас 457 уровень
Фиал песков уже откопала. (452 было)
Ископаемого ящера докапываю.
Кукла только появилась в раскопках.
и - 6 часов моего времени....
Копаю на Гордуни...
Комментарий от
xpress026
всё-таки есть удача , прокачал алхимию , на следующий день , пошол капать , причем сразу прокнула канопа , и в ней лежал рецепт , 15 минут и фиал песков ... наверное мне теперь долго вести не будет долго
Комментарий от
Kamcamolec
11 каноп и она моя, 108 артефактов толвиров... 2 рарных(кольцо,скарабеи)
копаю ради куклы и скарабея... у нэ 311 артефактов, куклы нету... где справедливость?
Комментарий от
863393
3 канопы,не падает...
Комментарий от
712037
второй артефакт толвиров. 1 конопа ...прямо не ожидал что так выпадет
Комментарий от
alexree
только что выпал с 14 канопы, я уж думал бросать чара и начинать нового, но вот такие чудеса заставляют не бросать своего шаму ^_^. Желаю всем удачи и терпения
Транг, Черный Шрам
Комментарий от
BlackdruidVP
Если качаете альта с алхимией, то я советую с 82 лвл прокачиватся только на копании. Мне прокнуло со второй канопы и в итоге я поднял 2,5 лвл. Не знаю как хватает терпения у которых падает с 14. Всем удачи!
Комментарий от
701634
Клёвый дрейк
Комментарий от
888335
Открыто 30 каноп, реца нет. Дракономор. :( Пичаль. Все остальное выкопано, что только возможно. Архи 525, Алхимка 525 уже все было, когда толвиров копать начал.
Комментарий от
888335
Получил с 33 канопы, ну наконец то!
Комментарий от
Allodar
Докачал сегодня второму чару археологию и первым артом на 525(до этого копал на другом материке только) выпала канопа. Ну и из канопы упал рец. В начале каты был бы счастлив, а сейчас даже не знаю.
Первому чару выкопал только кольцо и какую-то мелочь, ни жука, ни пета даже близко не видел.
Комментарий от
796648
рандомайзер близзардов - лучший из всех написанных рандомов.
мейну,которому я собирался скинуть алхимию со временем упал со 2 канопы,а твинку уже 14 каноп собрал и не падает до сих пор
Комментарий от
915552
Ихааа=) рецепт выпал с первой же канопы, сама канопа прокнула после первого же арта в ульдуме. Даже не думал что так повезёт) сервер Чёрный Шрам. Всем остальным археологам удачи в раскопках.
Комментарий от
743372
Получил с 3 канопы:)
но при этом всего 2 редких предмета у толвиров (кольцо и скарабеи), а выкопал уже 129.
Получил рецепт быстро, но теперь кажись карма мне сказала - "фиг тебе а не маунт и пет":(
Комментарий от
Tarelin
Выпал после патча 4.3 с первой канопы (она у меня оказалась 11ой)...Вот думаю это наконец пришел мой счатливый день или архи понерфили...
Комментарий от
Alzgamer
Только что выкопал наконец рецепт. Упал с 6 канопы.
Сидел читал комменты на него и что то потянуло. Долго копал и уже когда хотел идти спать, неожиданно вижу в выкопаной канопе фиолетовые буковки.
Избирающий, ВП. Удачи всем диггерам!
Комментарий от
847041
Археологию прокачал до 525, к тол'вирам не прикасался. Первый артефакт тол'виров - канопа. Открываю, внутри этот рецепт. Захожу за мейна, иду в тот же Ульдум и выкапываю с первого трая ещё раз. Правда за мейна мне уже друг подарил Фиал, так что рец в рюкзаке пылится.
Комментарий от
932190
Этот рец может дропнуться только 1 раз для перса ? или как повезет? и еще, он одноразовый?..
Комментарий от
negiron
Качал археологию,только ради этого рецепта)После 3-го артефакта прокнулась Канопа,все таки накопал её и долго не решался открыть...Но все таки открыл и выпал этот рецепт.Очень радовался,теперь коплю деньги на реги...Всем удачи в поисках рецепта!
Комментарий от
941379
Этот рецепт можно продать, написано вроде, что персональный при поднятии... а что если выкопаешь его не алхимиком? ;(
Комментарий от
942024
30.01.2012 Выпал с самой первой канопы)))))
Комментарий от
Gnet
Почитала комментарии,настроилась на долгие раскопки..Копала 5 часов в первый день и 2 часа второй.Летала в Ульдум,как только лопаточка появлялась.Дропнулся с первой же канопы. Верьте в себя,удача обязательно улыбнется :)
Комментарий от
dilbertbogg
полтора месяца копал по 3-4 часа в день.
Прокнулся где-то с 6 канопы. Уверен был на 100%, что именно с этой канопы он выпадет и он выпал))
Хочется пожелать всем копающим терпения, уверенности в себе и удачи. Никогда не сдавайтесь!
Комментарий от
Sapry
Скажите падает только алхимикам? стоит копать без алхимии?
Комментарий от
razvedcka
Решил вкачать археологию дворфу-алхимику.Почитав тут комменты настроился что раньше года не выкопаю рец ((( Сперва копал восточные королевства пока навык не позволил копать Талвиров ,итог копания с 0 профы за 2 дня : 8к голды 18 редких ,эльфы фул, с 8й канопы выпал рец ! Собственно хочется отметить обязательную особенность постарайтесь выкопать хоть 1ну расу полностью 2е ещё лучше именно на том материке где копаете, дабы прок на что вам действительно нужно повышается в разы!И еще совет для копателей Калимдора я сделал камень возвращения в Хиджале что значительно упрощает возврат из одной части материка в другую ,пока откопаете зоны камень откатывается очень удобно ,ну и из Хиджала в Шторм а там в Ульдум тоже норм)
P.S Копайте и воздастся ! )
Комментарий от
931372
95 артефактов Толвиров выкопаны все редкие кроме меча скарабеи и кольцо буквально сразу дропнули на 90артефактом дропнул спутник рука ,95ым маунт
14 каноп пустые )
алхимия 525 была ещё до начала раскопок
заметил что после сбора всех редких артефактов у эльфов раскопки в ульдуме стали появляться чаще
Комментарий от
940739
Упал с третьей канопы. Копала примерно год только в Калимдоре. Но не постоянно, когда-то большую часть игрового времени, иногда месяц вообще лопату не трогала. Толвиры прокали ооочень редко, в основном в виде замков и статуй кошки. Из редких: кольцо и подвеска.
Не советую копать рецепт тем, кто хочет заработать на продаже фиалов. Вы будете сильно разочарованы, тк сейчас спрос ниже предложения. На РФ аукцион забит фиалами, в трейде продают их почти по себестоимости.
ps
Любимая кукла Тиранды
так и не прокнула... Изначально копала в Калимдоре ради нее.
Комментарий от
decadance1
достала сегодня из 7 по счету канопы. произошло это неожиданно, т.к. я , как известная неудачница, настроилась копать рецепт примерно до середины лета:)попутно прокнул зинрок на 14 артефакте троллей, пустячок, а приятно:)))
всем удачи в поисках:)
Комментарий от
778468
Ихуууу)))
Теперь и я могу ворваться =)
5 канопа и вуаля - упал наконец то рецепт.
Обидно правда что уже на драконе, но все таки =)
Люди мой вам совет - не надейтесь что упадет сразу. Я вообще копал ради маунта жука - а вышло вон оно как.
Всем удачи в фарме!
Белл, Черный Шрам
Комментарий от
964825
Тоже выпал с 1-ой канопы перед этим 3 артефакта, 1 редкий.
Комментарий от
Dasper78
Получил со 2ой канопы очень был рад! Желаю всем удачи найти его!
Комментарий от
Vermishel
Видимо очень повезло
археологию качать начал только вчера первый артефакт-канопа, дроп-рецепт, хотя алхимия 525
Форина-Черный шрам
Комментарий от
1019945
походу я счастливчик! выпал с первого раза!
Комментарий от
miklenhl123
С первого раза достал( Достижение вам в доказательство!)
http://vk.com/miklenhl?z=photo18148685_288158242%2Falbum18148685_00%2Frev
Комментарий от
Serjio
Сегодня, сервер Азурегос, персу Гризел с первого канопа выпал -)
Комментарий от
margosha
Сегодня выпал с первой канопы) Была очень рада! Наверно повысили процент выпада... Гризел@Азурегос
Комментарий от
1024329
Ураа. Сегодня выпал со второй конопы, месте с мумифицированным органом. Копал две недели по три часа каждый день.
Комментарий от
1025153
также с 1 раза.
Комментарий от
vladhh01
выпал с первого раза!
Комментарий от
vladhh01
выпал с первого раза!
Комментарий от
vladhh01
выпал с первого раза!
Комментарий от
Modmaker
Качал археологию, про этот рец вообще не помнил.
Прилетел в Удьдум, собрал первый вообще мой Толвирский артефакт, из него выпал сразу же рец.
Первый раз так везет)
Комментарий от
Angree
А у мя так и не упала НИ ОДНА РАР СБОРКА! Только 674 серого хлама!
Комментарий от
Skitells
Было бы актуально если бы рецепт был привязан к учетной записи!
Комментарий от
Aselona
Копала в Калимдоре. После большого количества эльфийских дырок, наконец то появился Ульдум. Сразу же канопа и в ней же рецепт) Так что не огорчайтесь ^.^
Комментарий от
Oleg777
Всем старателям алхимикам-археологам копающим фиал пожелаю лишь такого же везения как и мне откопал со 2 канопы!))) 24 толвирский артефакт!) хотя от обилия локаций артефактов ночных эльфов я и не рассчитывал уже и выкопать.. ребята верьте в удачу!) и не сдавайтесь!) копайте и вы обязательно выкопаете!)
Комментарий от
1048905
2 серых выкопал 3-тим выпал коноп и с рецептом) тч народ не унывайте и дерзайте шансы есть!
Комментарий от
1071656
Применила вышеописанную тактику: не копила спауны в Ульдуме, а летала к первому появившемуся. Что могу сказать: не знаю, зависит это от рандома или нет, но лично у меня раскопки в Ульдуме стали спауниться гораздо чаще. То есть, копала-копала по всему Калимдору, появилась точка раскопки в Ульдуме - полетела туда. Даже если через всю карту плюхать. Интересное наблюдение: через три-четыре таких перелёта раскопки в Ульдуме стали чаще спауниться одна за другой. Да, самое главное: морально подготовилась к долгим поискам, ориентировалась на 30 каноп. На сегодняшний день по статистике у меня была отрыта только одна канопа, в которой оказались кишки (сначала долго не давали канопу, потом был опять же немалый перерыв, всё давали хрень всякую). Поэтому я сомневалась, что заполучу рец в ближайшем будущем, однако была уверена, что рано или поздно фиал у меня будет))) Но сегодня откопала вторую канопу, в ней, на удивление, оказался рец. Если кого заинтересует, произошло это около 20:30 по мск на Азурегосе. Кстати, настроиться на победу помог скрин с прокнувшей канопой, который тут уже выкладывали выше.
Комментарий от
1082668
39 каноп. реца нет. Начинает ехать крыша.
Комментарий от
lanrien
Если вы только начали качать археологию, чтобы в будущем искать рец, то качать лучше на этих самых эльфах. Так к моменту, когда вы соберетесь копать фиал у вас будут прокать только толвиры и окаменелости, эльфы и тролли будут реже, но самое главное - все будет в одной локации. Не так давно докачала алхимию и решила достать рец. К этому моменту у меня уже были собраны все арты эльфов, кроме платья и куклы, поэтому толвиры прокают очень часто. Эльфы попадают только в Фераласе, а окаменелости - в Краторе, поэтому летать получается недалеко, а толвиры так вообще могут прокнуть по 5-6 раскопок подряд. Возможно, прок полностью выкопанных рас в пандах стал значительно меньше. С невыкопанными эльфами замучаетесь, так что не поленитесь их выкопать заранее, если будет такая возможность.
Комментарий от
RaZaR8
ВЫПАЛ С ПЕРВОЙ КАНОПЫ!1 НА РАДОСТЯХ ВРУБИЛ КАПС!
Ну и так как все тут хвастаются, вот и я решил похвастаться!
Комментарий от
Besty357
Перекопала всю Пандарию, весь Калимдор, места на них живого не оставила, но вот с 4й канопы (редкая штука скажу я вам) я таки добыла этот рец! Ура!
Комментарий от
walrus88
Люди,кто собрался копать и копать этот рец-сначала посчитайте:на ауке изделие стоит 32600г (Борейка).Себестоимость- 5000+8х3000+12х300(золото) и плюс настои и масло.Получается больше чем на ауке!А можно ведь в личку написать и на 10% комиссионных точно дешевле продадут.
Комментарий от
Nemiz
По ходу мне тоже несказанно повезло, т.к. рецепт выпал с первой же канопы.
Копал, как советовали только в Калимдоре, преимущественно эльфийские артефакты. И когда навык археологии апнул до 460 - появились места раскопок в Ульдуме.
А еще бонусом апнул лвл, получая экспу только с раскопок. 38к за одно копание (на 85-86), 9 млн эксы, примерно 230 раз выкопал фрагменты.
Комментарий от
1119065
Сперва накопал канопы. пару штук вообще без алхимии, Апнул алхимию может до 100, накопал ещё 4 канопы. Апнул алхимию примерно до 200, накопал ещё 2. Апнул Алхимию до 525 и стал открывать канопы. Со второй упал рецепт.
Комментарий от
Kacuki
Не поверите) рецепт выпал с первого раза)
Комментарий от
ekzen
Копать реально придется очень долго. Хочу поделиться своими заметки при выкапывании рецепта. Мне попался с 19 канопы, копала полтора месяца.
1) Начала копать когда была на 82 левеле, пока не достигла 85 ни одной канопы не прокнулось
2) Как только достигла 85 сразу же попалась канопа, и после этого попадалась чаще, он не чаще чем 1 канопа в день
3) Чтобы раскопок стало больше в ульдуме, необходимо обязательно откопать все артефакты ночных эльфов, раскопок сразу становится больше. Да и вообще чем у больших расс вы выкопали предметы, тем больше вероятность раскопки в ульдуме
4) Когда достигла 90, стало уже как минимум 2 канопы в день прокаться, поэтому советую копать достигнув 90 левела
5) Чтобы не забросить копание, советую начать покуппать ресы для фиала, как раз к тому времени, когда вы их соберете, у вас уже будет рецепт и это гарантия что вы уже копать не бросите, потому что ресы не дешевые)
6) Ну и как советовалось смотрите скриншот, очень воодушевляет)
Удачи всем в выкапывании
Комментарий от
yamamotu
копаю два месяца, иногда кажется, что прок канопы еще реже прока самого рецепта, 4 подряд маленьких мозаик но я выдержал и копаю дальше!
Комментарий от
KroshkaZu
Хочу написать про статистику, есть подозрения, что 3% шанса для алхимиков не совсем верно. Брала данные на этой странице, наши и наших англ.друзей (там смотрела только 1 стр), вот что вышло:
каждый 8-9 собранный артефакт окажется канопой.
рецепт падает на 7-8 канопе.
Т.е. шанс выпадения рецепта никак не 3%, а, как минимум, 13%! Конечно, как кому повезет.
Данные такие: сначала те, кто точно написал, сколько собрал артов и на какой канопе выпал рец - 1094 артов и 97 каноп; тут примерно на 11 канопе выпал рецепт.
Потом те. кто просто писал - выпал на такой-то канопе - 40 человек, 152 канопы, тут рецепт выпал примерно на 4 канопе (ну потому что много восторгов не по сути - "выпал из первой канопы!адинадин)
Среднее: 7-8 канопа выигрышная.
Не знаю, у меня по самим канопам примерно совпадает - 42 артефакта, 5 каноп, т.е. каждый 8 арт был канопой. Рецепта, правда. еще нет.
И совет, если кто еще не знает. Покупайте
Звуковой локатор артефактов богомолов
, с помощью него можно быстро нагенерить Тол’вирские раскопки, просто вылетев- залетев в Ульдум пару раз. Это такой официальный близовский бот xD.
Комментарий от
Sinneve
Мне повезло! Рецепт упал из первой же канопы)) Второй бонус в этот день - вместо одного слитка истинного золота трансмутировалось 5!
Комментарий от
Anihna
Обычно не ною на вовхеде что что-то не падает или не выкапывается.. но это же ппц.
Копаю этот чертов рецепт уже второй год.
196 серых арта, 16 каноп, жук, еще ерунда всякая фиолетовая.. Рецепта нет...
Говорила с ГМ - на предмет. а может таки работает система как с монетками - чем чаще бросаешь тем больше шанс что-то полутать.... На что утвердительно ГМ ответил, мол решает все в момент открытия канопы близзард-рандом, или ДА или НЕТ.. Процент не сказал)))
вот .. снова походу забью на пол года.
Комментарий от
Kameshek
Почитала комментарии и приготовилась к худшему (засесть этак на месяц с раскопками). Развила археологию до Ульдума, собрала там все четыре точки, раскопала их. Вот моя первая конопа..... а в ней рецепт! Глазам своим не поверила XD
P.S. Суть коментария: готовьтесь к худшему, но верьте в лучшее :D
Комментарий от
noire
Не копал Тол'виров вообще при прокачке профессии. Сегодня накопал артефактов в Пандарии,обменял восстановленные артефакты на фрагменты Тол'виров, и 3 артефактом упала Канопа, а там......РЕЦЕПТ!
Ах да, очень мне понравился коммент:"Не расчитывайте на комменты аля "Ура! первая канопа и в ней рец!". Рандом жесточайший." от Ishodnik. В моем случае так и есть:"Ура! первая канопа и в ней рец!".
Вуаля!
Комментарий от
sethscooter
Выпал вчера (26.08.2013) с 16 канопы! Итого я потратил в среднем если сжать время только на археологию неделя и три дня. Причём я летал только по Калимдору. Старался разрабатывать все места раскопок на севере и вообще везде лишь бы побольше раскопок открылось в Ульдуме, причём этот совет я так же подчеркнул на этом замечательном ресурсе (wowhead). Ещё в Калимндоре мобы слабые и прислужник их быстро убивает, а абилки археологии и кнопка вызова маунта на горячих клавишах. Ну и заработать можно неплохо. Опять же если посчитать то время что я копал получил за продажу хлама около 14000 золотых монет.
Мне понравился один из постов, которым я и вдохновлялся последние дни фарма. И добавлю от себя следующее. Пожалуйста, не убивайте весь день только на копание, уделяйте этому 1 - 2 часа или просто собрали канопу или две - открыли, если ничего нет - то на сегодня хватит копать. Ну и конечно выкопайте все места раскопок в Ульдуме, чтобы завтра или когда захотите снова продолжить охоту за рецептом.
Я копал ради своего друга которому хотел подарить фиал.
Сетикристис, Демонолог - Колдовсто 90 уровень, сервер Дракономор
Комментарий от
Charsy
Выпал с 25-ой канопы, честно говоря открывая очередную канопу уже ни на что не надеялся.
Комментарий от
984535
Мне так сказали - либо везёт сразу, либо долго ждать придётся.
У меня пока всего 7 каноп. Вижу тут камменты про 19 и 25... Бог Рэндома, дай мне моральных сил!
Комментарий от
deNoor
18 каноп. Менял ~800 штук Восстановленных артефактов (раскопки Пандарии).
Ничего сложного :)
Комментарий от
machilator
Мда везет же у меня за 10 часов 1 конапа только.
Комментарий от
OlegVI
Еще есть один способ ускорить процесс сборки Толвиров с выходом пандарии. Нам понадобится ферма полностью со всеми грядками. Берем у этого НИПа
Торговец Зеленое Поле
эти семена
Мешочек с семенами колокольчика
. В итоге на следующий день получаем
Частица гармонии
из него крафтим уже
Дух гармонии
который можно поменять у НИПа у орды
Данки
у альянса
Кристэл
на
Восстановленный артефакт
который в итоге меняем у
Бранн Бронзобород
на
Ящик с фрагментами артефактов Тол'вира
в итоге профит и ускорение. Также можно частицы фармить по миру миру и менять так же.
Комментарий от
TwillCat
Почитал я комменты и скажу одно: ребята, вы как с ясельной группы сбежали ;) Да, рец весьма полезный и желанный, но не стоит на нем зацикливаться. Как говорила Раневская: - Все сбудется - стоит только расхотеть.
Комментарий от
Madday
541 арт богомолов, 181 арт толвиров, 13 канопа, может кто-то собирает для статистики)
Комментарий от
Besty357
Можете сколько угодно закидывать меня тапками и минусовать но я буду хвастаться)) Прокачала двух алхимиков и обоими за пару дней выкопала этот рецепт!
Комментарий от
Reaper13
Рецепт упал с 6 канопы.
Комментарий от
lll3000
выпал сегодня с 6 канопы,копал иногда и понемногу в пандарии,обменивая на толвиров.
собрано 3 редких (1 из них маунт), 39 серых.
Комментарий от
Altertron5
Мне показалась выйгрышной такая тактика: сначала нужно накопать несколько каноп (5-7), а потом разом их открыть.
P.S. Я по такой тактике получил рецепт, и вам желаю удачи)
Комментарий от
Parphirion
Внесу свою лепту. С добавлением раскопок богомолов охота за рецептом значительно упростилась. Итак, все, что нам нужно - это приобрести
Комплект охотника за артефактами богомолов
за 2х
Восстановленный артефакт
у
Бранн Бронзобород
. Этот комплект включает в себя
Звуковой локатор артефактов богомолов
(позволяет в течение одного дня копать только богомолов, если у вас имеются раскопки могу и пандаренов, то выкопайте их и новые раскопки будут только богомолов) и
Карта хранителя истории
(как бонус, особой пользы не имеет). Для тех, кто не в курсе, поясняю: раскопки богомолов занимают в Пандарии всего две(!) локации - это Танлунские степи и Жуткие пустоши, которые, к тому же, расположены рядом. Вот и все, теперь вы можете нонстопом копать/собирать
Восстановленный артефакт
и менять их на фрагменты тол'виров все у того же
Бранн Бронзобород
в Вечноцветущем доле.
Ну и, добавлю кое какую статистику(по предположению моей коллеги, которая рецепт уже получила) из личного опыта. Похоже, что шансы того, что прокнет сборка канопы, значительно меньше для алхимика. Копаю мейном(не алхимик) просто для сбора всего "шоб було": 5 рарных, 35 каноп, 40+- серых артефактов тол'виров каждого вида. Лок(алхимик), им копаю рецепт: 4 рарника, 23 канопы, 50+- серых атефактов тол'виров каждого вида.
UPD: рецепт выпал с 23 канопы. Копал на выходных с установкой собрать 200
Восстановленный артефакт
, обменять их, не прокнуло - перерыв. Все прочие советы, вкллючая самые маньячные, уже описаны. Всем удачи в поисках.
Комментарий от
stalkerrus555
45 каноп а рецепта всё нет... начинает подёргиваться правый глаз...
Комментарий от
1448515
4-ые раскопки, 3-ий арт, 1-ая канопа, рецепт, 5 часов. Спасибо за внимание.
Комментарий от
Marihuana
выпал мне сегодня с третьей моей канопы. ура наконец то ))
Комментарий от
1476879
Сегодня, 20 мая, в 00:02 по Москве фортуна улыбнулась мне во все 32 зуба! Азурегос. Рецепт фиала песков выпал с ПЕРВОЙ попытки!
Комментарий от
dokuso
Метод для богатых и ленивых:
Так как
Дух гармонии
теперь BoE скупаем его на аукционе и размениеваем его у
Данки
для Орды или у
Кристэл
для Альянса соответственно на
Восстановленный артефакт
, а его в свою очередь на
Фрагмент артефакта тол'виров
.
Комментарий от
896014
Упал из 18 канопы. Копал только по Калимдору по несколько часов неделю:
Толвирские 148 (5/6 редких, 3071 золота, 7185 фрагментов), разброс был 29-25-22-19-18(канопа)-15-15, вначале на 60 сборок было всего 3 канопы потом лучше пошло
Эльфийские 327 (7/7, 7281 г, 12268)
Окаменелости 98 (5/5, 2036 г, 3798)
Тролли 64 (2/3, 669 г, 2289)
Дворфы 9 (1/, 48 г, 422)
Всего 646 арта, 13105 золота, 25962 фрагмента
Комментарий от
Moocha
выпал с 5 канопы
Комментарий от
Masenok
Прочитала самый первый комментарий, готовилась к худшему. Воспользовавшись советами, начала прокачку археологии с 0 в Калимдоре, качала только там. Как только раскопки в Ульдуме стали доступны, сразу туда, две раскопки - собранный артефакт+канопа с рецептом. Долго не могла поверить, т.к. планировала каждый день по несколько часов его фармить. Также рассчитывала сделать кучу археологических ачивок, до которых не доходили руки. Поэтому даже немного расстроилась, теперь я их точно никогда не сделаю))
Комментарий от
Aynd
Фармлю голду с треша в ОП с зельями поиска сокровищ - падает куча регов на истинное золото. Ну я и подумал - а не выкопать ли мне рецепт на фиал, благо твинк с алхимией (да еще и трансмутатор) есть. Пошел копать дренор для размена артов, купил 100 толвирских зеленых штук думал хватит, но они за 2 дня кончились (покупал по 300 г шт), пошел купил еще 80 (о чудо - по 100г шт). Накопал 15 вост. артов портуюсь менять и тут БАХ - бан на сутки(к тому времени было открыто 11 каноп). Сегодня зашел в игру, выменял коробки, делаю арты (канопа прокнула но я по инерции сделал еще 3 арта), и о чудо! рецепт на фиал упал!. Вообщем 12 каноп и он мой. Пока копал выкопал лапку и жука (Жук уже второй что с ним делать ума не приложу)
Комментарий от
lesobon
Выпал с 10й канопы.
Комментарий от
craftalion
Выпал с 14-ой канопы, собирал на протяжении 3-4 дней.76 Артефактов (скипитр выбит раньше реца).Похоже прок данного реца ~ 8%.
Комментарий от
GoLeMjkeee
Выпал сегодня с 8 канопы.
Советую собирать
Восстановленный артефакт
в Пандарии. Затем обменивать их у
на
Ящик с фрагментами артефактов Тол'вира
В несколько раз быстрее получается. С одного ящика по 6-8 артефактов Тол'вира.
Комментарий от
Legode
Выпал с 16 канопы. Только что собрала этого красавца, благо все ингредиенты давно валялись в банке.
Комментарий от
zavrrazavrr
Его можно передать твинку - алхимику?
Комментарий от
Devlok
Выпал рецепт с первой же канопы, странно что некоторым даже с 30ой не падает.
Комментарий от
madara2682
За последние 4 дня собрал 10 каноп, тупо собирал пандаренские и дренорские артефакты и менял их на тол`вирские ящики,в итоге 2 часа тому назад когда заметил что с зельем поиска сокровищ падают сумки на 16 решил собрать несколько каноп и открыть под действием этого зелья на катаклизмовской локации. И наконец то выпало) я очень рад этому)
Теперь осталось разобраться в чем дело: или в том что у меня почтение с этой фракцией,или в том что я был под действием зелья поиска сокровищ, или в том то у меня осталось только 64 часа игрового времени :-D
Комментарий от
Markizo
Лучше сейчас фармить
Восстановленный артефакт
на расколотых островах.
Комментарий от
Baltika7
Всем привет. Упал сегодня с 6ой конопы. Восстановленный артефакт = 125 шт. Фармил 3 дня по 3-4 часа. Желаю всем удачи:)
Комментарий от
dandylion42
Я.делаю иначе: копаю артефакты легиона (попутно собирая траву), делаю из них
Восстановленный артефакт
и меняю у
Даринесс Сведущая
на
Ящик с фрагментами артефактов Тол'вира
Комментарий от
vdul
БФА. копал периодически в течение последнего месяца. Собрал 50+ простых артефактов, канопа не прокалась ни разу. Я разозлился и сказал себе: если не прокнет до конца подписки, то следующую не буду брать. И что вы думаете? Остаётся менее 20 часов, собираю ЧУДОМ одну канопу - пустая. Через два Арта ещё одна. И о чудо - наконец я обладатель заветного рецепта!
Комментарий от
hapunarat
Решил выбить этот рецепт в Бфа почитал комментарии сначала начал капать в калимдоре после копа на протяжении около месяца выпало только 2
Канопа
в них по заветам нечего не было решил копать через
Ящик с фрагментами артефактов Тол'вира
фармил около месяца выпало около 10
Канопа
и опять нечего . залез в комменты и нашел пару человек которые говорили что рецепт выпал только когда на аккаунте осталось мало времени решил сделать также . В итоге на аккаунте 10 часов игрового времени выпадает 2
Канопа
и из 1 которую открываю выпадает рецепт . Так что хз толи близзард подкручивает , то ли совпадение
Комментарий от
Silinc
Держу в курсе, за неделю около 40 раскопок в ульдуме, два легендарных артефакта, по 5-7 каждого обычного, и только одна канопа дропнулась. в которой конечно же лежал собачий калл. У кого то рецепт не падает? Я уже хотя бы канопу мечатю увидеть в крафте толлвиров, что б хоть какие то шансы на рецепт иметь.
Для тех кто просто хочет сделать себе маунта, не беритесь за это дело, просто купите на аукционе, поберегите нервы.
В общем, раскопкам стал уделять около 3 часов в день, вечером. Сегодня же решил покопать утром. Самым эффективным методом будет копать в пандарии, перед этим прокачав репутацию с Хранителями истории до превознесения ( минут 30 занимает, погуглите как ). После чего можно стает возможно копать только одних богомолов. Что очень удобно и быстро. За 3-4 часа можно накопать около 100 Восстановленных артефактов. И обменять их в среднем на 700 фрагментов Толвиров, не считая письменов. Таким образом намного быстрее чем копать в Калимдоре, где можно потратить те же 3-4 часа на то что бы загнать все раскопки в один Ульдум.
Сегодня утром не решив заморачиваться,накопав 50 Восстановленных артефактов, собрал одну канопу из всего этого, в которой по моему счастью, оказался рецепт. Счастью не было предела
http://priscree.ru/img/e75a033b34a1de.jpg
Комментарий от
npfi
Качал с 1 до 600 археологию в зандаларе и кул-тирасе. За это время набралось куча артефактов восстановленных. Разок прервался на дренорскую археологию (для книжки на 450). Честно говоря - не понял что эта книжка должна была сделать, ибо она мне просто подняла максимум до 450 (но не навык, т.е. он был 1/450), затем я подошел ко всяким другим учителям археологии в т.ч. бфа и поднял до 950 максимум. Так что все остальные 590+ пришлось качать в зандаларе.
Как только апнул 600, всё накопленное добро обменял у учителя в дазаралоре и выбил 2 канопы. С первой упал рецепт.
Всё это заняло у меня в сумме часов 6, по 2 часа в день, перед сном.
Осталось качнуть алхимию катаклизма, и понять где фармятся ресы)
Комментарий от
Exia7S
Решила делать так, летать по всему Калимдору по раскопками и добиться того что бы все(ну точно не одна) они улетели у Ульдум. За 4-6 часов(по сути один день) достала одну единственную Канопу, открыла (так как собирать 5 штук посчитала нету смысла) и было мне счастье. Я потратила всего нечего времени.
Комментарий от
IceMan821
Упал только что с канопы со 2 трая! Я в ахуе=))) Гордунни
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Комментарий от
Hordrim
Finally, players will get to mount each other!
... Oh wait.
Комментарий от
Shagus
Where does it drop anyway? Anyone have any info?
Might be like a roflcoptor or carpet for alchemists by any chance?
Комментарий от
linkhyrule
I think Blizz just gave RPers an excuse to role play that they are an "Eternal dragon and this human/blood elf/night elf form is only a disguise" lol
Комментарий от
Leepi
According to MMO-champion, this recipe is learned upon discovery.
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/65891/vial-of-the-sands/
Whether this is correct or not remains to be seen and as always, Blizzard could change how it is obtained.
Turns out they did change it!
Edit: As of 4.0.3b, the recipe is learned when you find it using archaeology. 450+ arch is required and the produced vial is now BoE making it the alchemy equivalent of the chopper/Mechano hog. As this is not classified as a flask, elixer or transmutation, it will not be subject to any of those specializations and I look forward to maxing archaeology trying to find this.
Edit^2: 4 years later, I've quit wow after having never found this. This was in my opinion, the worst RNG dependent drop to have ever been implemented in the game.
Комментарий от
368312
I would like to say that Nathanvel was correct
The people that downrated him were too lazy to look for themselves.
http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=93326#comments
It applies the mounted buff
then applies the model change
As in, you are mounted, not shapeshifted.
Комментарий от
195182
***Updated for patch 4.06***
Pyrium-Laced Crystalline Vial
(1x5000g)
Vendor Item - "Sold only by Yasmin in Uldum"
Sands of Time
(8x3000g)
Vendor Item
Truegold
(12)
Pyrium Bar
(3)
Pyrite Ore
(2) OR {
Elementium Bar
(4) +
Volitile Earth
(4) }
Volitile Fire
(10)
Volitile Air
(10)
Volitile Water
(10)
Flask of the Winds
(8)
Volatile Life
(8)
Azshara's Veil
(8)
Whiptail
(8)
Crystal Vial
Flask of Titanic Strength
(8)
Volatile Life
(8)
Cinder Bloom
(8)
Whiptail
(8)
Crystal Vial
Deepstone Oil
(8)
Albino Cavefish
(4-8)
~~~ TOTALS ~~~
Pyrium-Laced Crystalline Vial
x1
Sands of Time
x8
Albino Cavefish
x6
Crystal Vial
x16
Whiptail
x128
Cinder Bloom
x64
Azshara's Veil
x64
Volatile Life
x128
Volitile Fire
x120
Volitile Air
x120
Volitile Water
x120
Pyrite Ore
x72 OR {
Elementium Bar
x144 +
Volitile Earth
x144}
29,000 Gold for vendor mats (Goblin Discount confirmed to work - 23,200g)
I am guessing another 20-30k for other mats.
*NOTE:
You need 450 Archeology to obtain the recipe, and it is extremely RNG. I have heard it was obtained with an alchemy skill as low as 225, though it requires 525 to make.
(Approximate odds)
13% Chance to get a Tol'Vir digsite in Uldum (you need 3-4 to complete a
Canopic Jar
)
12% Chance to be working on a
Canopic Jar
10% Drop rate of the recipe out of a
Canopic Jar
So assuming you get 1 Tol'Vir digsite every 30 min and about a 0.15%* chance of getting this for every 3-4 digsites.
We are talking about an average 1200** hours of archeology. This does seem a bit high, so I am hoping the rates I have are wrong. Please post if you have better data on the rates.
*.13x.12x.1=.00156
**30x3.5/.0015/60 =1166
Комментарий от
DramaOfficer
Not necessarily 24,000g. If you're guild is at
Level 24
it will reduce the price down to 21,600 gold. And if
Yasmin
is affiliated with a Reputation, and you get to Exalted with them, that would bring the price of 8
Sands of Time
down to 16,800. Of course, we don't know whether she is or not, we'll see how it all plays out.
TL;DR: To make
Vial of the Sands
, you may only need
16,800 Gold
to get the 8
Sands of Time
, instead of
24,000g
.
Комментарий от
725164
I just got this recipe with Archaeology. Race Tol'Vir, it was inside the common item "
Canopic Jar
".(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##Gryphon##DELIM##
Комментарий от
Lunasea
Just got this. I've had a few questions asked to me, I got it in the
Canopic Jar
, which can only be found as Tol'vir artifact in Uldum, it is a common item. My alchemy was only 465 at the time, and my Archaeology was capped at 525.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##Gryphon##DELIM##
Комментарий от
mekanikos
This comes from the
Canopic Jar
, a Tol'Vir common item. The Canopic Jar is now a white quality item, so it shouldn't escape your attention so easily.
There is a total of sixteen (16) Tol'vir digsites (up from the previous nine) in the game, all located on Kalimdor (Uldum) and you can only start getting Uldum excavation opportunities after hitting 450 Archaeology. The recipe will only drop for Alchemists, is not a guaranteed drop and is Bind on Pickup, however the mount associated with it (
Vial of the Sands
) is not. Given the rarity of Tol'Vir excavation points (~16/56) you're going to be flying around Kalimdor a *lot*. Non-mages, utilize your hearths as best as you can; the major home cities have their respective ports to Hyjal and Uldum.
Horde, I advise using your hearth to Orgrimmar when you have 3 or more projects in the northern zones (Ashenvale and up) and grabbing a
Ring of the Kirin Tor
so you can use the Caverns of Time portal in the Violet Citadel. This gives you mobility all over the continent on very short cooldowns.
Alliance can use Stormwind as their home point to fulfill the same purpose as Org (port to Hyjal for the north digs).
This task is RNG (project) wrapped in RNG (dig site) coated with RNG (pleasedeargoddroptherecipe), but with the changes that've been made to Archeology (
3-6
UPDATED* fragments (at max level) per successful survey) it should be a little more bearable. Even with these changes, this is a task only for the patient.
Good luck, guys.
The digsites are:
Ruins of Khintaset, Temple of Uldum, Ruins of Ahmtul, Orsis, Ruins of Ammon, Halls of Origination (North), Halls of Origination (South), Khartut's Tomb, Neferset, River Delta, Cursed Landing, Keset Pass, Akhenet Fields, Obelisk of the Stars, Sahket Wastes, Schnottz's Landing
Комментарий от
428699
It's smart loot, so it'll only drop for players that actually have alchemy.
Комментарий от
346442
Can we assume that if you have high enough alchemy and construct the Canopic Jar that it's 100% chance? or is there still some sort of drop rate associated with this? (sorry if it's a dumb question, I just don't want to get my hopes up once i finally start constructing one... especially considering how many other obstacles there are in getting the mount.)
Комментарий от
Zulustriker
Can you get the canopic jar artifact more than once?
Комментарий от
500878
I personally think the recipe should be bind on account, if your alchemist is not your main, it would take forever to level archeology a second time and who wants to do that?
Комментарий от
493111
A Handy Guide for those who haven't started Archaeology:
Training Arch allows you to see Dig Sites on the two old world continents.
There will always be 4 Dig Sites on a continent at any given time
Once you mine out a dig site it respawns at a randomly selected location on that continent
The Canopic Jar that drops this recipe is completed from Tol'vir Digsites
Tol'vir dig sites are only in Uldum, and require a skill of 450 to spawn
There are about 6 Tol'vir dig sites and 54 across all of Kalimdor, meaning when you mine out a Kalimdor dig site it has a 1/12 chance of spawning a Tol'vir dig site
There are now 16 Tol'vir dig sites in Uldum, out of 69 in Kalimdor, and which contain 9 to 18 fragments
As of 4.1(?) dig sites spawns are now weighted based on whether or not you have any remaining rares to be completed. For Canopic Jar farming this usually means,the spawn chance of night elf dig-sites will be lowered once you complete all of their artifacts, causing your digsites to be significantly more focused in southern Kalimdor, reducing travel time. This benefit is largely lost - however- once you complete the fossil rares; equalizing your fossil and nelf spawn rates.
The Jar is one of 7 common Tol'vir artifacts requiring 45 fragments each to complete, you will not be able to get repeats until you've completed them all once
The Canopic Jar has a, currently unknown, % chance to drop the recipe. Most reports are of people not getting it on the first or second try, so likely less than 50%. Your mileage may vary, I gave up after 28.
Now that you know what your in for, have fun!
EDIT: updated with current numbers for dig sites and the new fragment drop rate
EDIT 2: reupdated dig site counts, and added bullet point about spawn rate changes in 4.1
Комментарий от
Ametrine
the Mount is no longer BOP, but the (very rare) recipe still is.
Комментарий от
734740
I got the recipe yesterday from archeaology Tol'vir (
Канопа
)
it contained the item
i already made it 3 times, one for me, one for a guy paying me 10k, and the last one for the auctionhouse - 150.000g buyout
costs to made overall ~72.000 (30k must buy NPC goods - rest buying stuff from the ah)
NO cooldown ... and tradeable... and useable for every race and for every profession - you dont have to be an alchemist
got very lucky yesterday but really cool drake !
Комментарий от
175471
Rare drop
from a
rare drop
from 45
archeology fragments
. It is likely that Blizzard outdid themselves with this mount. I find it an interesting dynamic when comparing the amount of time farming gold (mats) and the amount of time needed to farm a raid that this mount is the lonely man's path to epeen flailing that you mostly only see with the hardcore raiding guilds doing end game heroic raids. The difference...BoE! Now people can pay you for epeen! The alchemist that has this recipe will be quite famous on your server.
I apologize if this question has been answered, I'm editing an older post.
QUESTION:
Can non-alchemists get this recipe drop? (Obviously they can't use and it's BoP, I'm just wondering if a temporary trade skill swap may occur)
I see now that the question has been answered, seemingly (according to posts) you must be an alchemist to have this item drop...effectively lowering/raising it's drop rate significantly, depending on how you factor alchemists vs everyone else looting jars
Комментарий от
237782
It really would have made more sense for this to be a reward for an achievement (
this
seems like a good candidate) like certain cloaks in WotLK. As it is now it's far too random.
I got my first Canopic Jar on Sunday, now four days later I finally got a second one. Both without a recipe. I like to think I have more patience than most, but I can't stand the thought of four more days of spending all my in-game time doing archaeology for another
chance
of seeing this drop.
I've decided to give up for now (yes, QQ) and wait for someone luckier than me to get the recipe so I can pay them to craft the vial for me instead.
Комментарий от
431655
Got the
Canopic Jar
today.
No recepie inside :( Just a gray item.
My skill in Alchemy and Archaeology is 525 so no trouble there. Just bad luck.
"Just" have to wait until I can solve it again.
Should you have enough Tol'vir points to solve the Canopic Jar and not be at max Alch or Arch lv I suggest you wait with the solving. The excess solving points will be transfered to the next solvable item ... and the next ...
I've had Night Elf at 190/35 and that just meant I could solve five artifacts in a row.
Комментарий от
735686
you do not need maxxed alch to get the recipe i got it today out of my first jar with alchemy at only 463, but my archaeology is capped out
Комментарий от
Minou
The spawning of more than 3 fragments per dig sped up the Tol'Vir hunt quite a bit.
I'm just opened my third Canopic Jar, to find my third mummyfied organ... frustrating.
I'm now at 12 grey items and the epic ring solved so far.
If you're not a mage, optimize your routes using the Hyjal and Uldum portals from your capital.
Комментарий от
720109
Dropped on my first jar today alch at 506 and 525 archaeology
Комментарий от
729920
I got extremely lucky and got this after 2 Tol'Vir dig sites in Uldum. Frags + the 2 Scroll thingies I got = Canopic Jar which was full of UTTER WIN!
My Alchemy is maxed and my Arch is 500... now onto making the Truegold!
Комментарий от
307339
Can a non-alchemist see the pattern in the jar?
Комментарий от
Felidire
Anyone know if you need to have Alchemy as a profession in order for this to drop? I would much rather farm for this until I actually find it prior to dropping a 525 profession, as opposed to dropping a 525 profession, leveling alchemy and never actually finding it.
If so, have there been any blue posts regarding this, or is there any proof?
Комментарий от
timbaLt
While it may or may not require being an Alchemist to receive the recipe, my Alchemy was only at 450 when I got the recipe in my 2nd jar. So you don't have to stress about maxing out your Alchemy before opening your jars.
Комментарий от
Deathturtle
This mechanic is incredibly frustrating.
I got no recipe from my first jar, and I am on my 9th common since completing one of each of the 7 Tor'Vir commons, none of which have been a second jar. I have done 3-4 of a bunch of others but no jar. I estimate that I have farmed 150 + 12 x 45 fragments since my first and only jar thus far...
I am starting to get very very very annoyed with Blizzard.
Oh, and I'm sitting on all the mats as well :(
Комментарий от
738696
YAY! i have farmed archeology for the last 2-3 days and today i got skill enough to get Tol'vir artifacts the reason i farmed this was because of the alchemy mount witch comes from a recipie in a jar which can when you appear when you solve Tol'vir artifacts (Uldum only)
when the Jar finally apeared i ofc farmed till i got it and when i opened the recipie was in! I have prob been extreemly lucky to get this in first Jar and i have no idea if theres any other on my server who also have it, now i have started my farming on mats for the mount and hopefully ill get this mount in a few days.
Name: Signerah
Server: Deathwing EU
Комментарий от
382500
525 transmute alchemist
525 archaeology
I have opened 5 jars so far and all of which did not contain the recipe. It took more than 100 hours already just to get my 5 jars. It seems the drop rate is not that great after all.
edit1: 6th jar still no recipe.
edit2: 9th jar still no recipe. about 130 hours of digging now. can this get any more retarded?
edit3:10th jar still no recipe (this jar alone took a little more than 20 hours).
edit4: 11th jar no recipe. stopped counting hours. Completed a total of 77 commons and 3 rares for tol'vir. Currently have 11829 nelf fragments, 4946 fossil, and 1407 troll with everything in those race obtained.
edit5: 12th jar finally got the recipe. total time spent on getting this recipe is probably in the 300 hrs zone.
Комментарий от
261705
woot i just got my recipe from my first jar!
Комментарий от
738852
So I've read a bunch on this and everywhere people are saying "yes you need max alch" "No you don't" etc etc. Does anybody know if your Archaeology has to be maxed, or can it be obtained without the 525? I'm around 476 right now, and my first Tol`vir artifact is a Canopic Jar. Kinda scared to solve it though since my archaeology isn't maxed. I'd hate to open it just to find out later that Archaeology HAS to be at 525 =/
Комментарий от
Suzuka
As soon as I hit 450 on my Archaeology I went to Kalimdor and started to farm sites there to get Uldum ones to appear, my second item was the Canopic Jar and I got the recipe first try.
to CheezeBurga, I dont know if having 525 Alchemy matters or not, but if it does, it would make sence as getting this recipe reminds me of getting recipes for cooking, they drop of mobs sometimes in raids, but not unless your someone in that raid that needs it and can learn it i.e. has the lvl requirement to learn it so it appears.
Also reminds me of the heavy frostweave book in Wrath , couldn't get it to happen as a drop until you have the required lvl of first aid.
My Alchemy btw is 525 and I had it done first before leveling up my Archaeology so that might hold true, it would make sence. That or I just got damn lucky getting it on my first try.
Комментарий от
LordDeos
Is this really BoP this recipe? Cause I've been levelling Arch to get my friend his cause he hates it, and in return he'll make me a Vial after his own. Can I not find this? Cause that'd be REALLY stupid of them to do, force people to level a prof they don't like to get theirs....
Комментарий от
Suzuka
the Recipe is BoP, your friend will half to be the one to get the farming done on his toon with the 525 Alchemy.
Комментарий от
Genesis1
I first started taking alchemy because I heard of this "alchemy exclusive" mount. After getting my Alchemy to 525, I figured out that the mount became BOE instead of just for alchemists, which made it "just another pricy mount". Kind of took away from it's luster, but then again, still worth getting, so I set out to farm the recipe. I am now 5 jars in, with no recipe. While other professions have been getting cool "exclusive" to that profession mounts, (i.e. magic carpets and the turbo-charged flying machine, WoW have blessed alchemists this expansion with a "headache" while trying to track down the recipe for the vial. Thanks Blizz.
edit- got recipe in 6th jar.. by the time I made it people were riding them all over the city
Комментарий от
95386
I just got the recipe from my third Canopic Jar, took about 35 hours of digging up and down the continent.
Комментарий от
734457
Atleast you guys get canopic jars as projects, i have done 19 commons now and only got the first one... 1k fossils and 1,5k NE and got all rares from both races...
Комментарий от
740826
This item is starting to drive me insane...
I've made a total of 46 common Artifacts, including 4 Jars, as well as 3 rares and have yet to find my recipe.
Sitting on about 2k fossil and 5k Night Elf fragments without any use, scared to even think about the time I've spent on this (way beyond the point I can just give up).
Honestly I would be very surprised if Blizzard didn't do something to make it easier to obtain.
oh, and there are 9 Tol'Vir digsites and for Alliance it's probably a good idea to put Hearthstone in Stormwind for the Hyjal and Uldum portals
Комментарий от
406651
Sorry, that you hate me CrimsinPagan, 'cause I just got the recipe on my second tol'vir artifact with 519 alchemy :)
But even when I got lucky, I officially hate Blizzard for designing archeology. Its stupid and boring and boring and boring. Oh ... and more boring! 2 days for leveling archeology and 1 day for the recipe. Stupid!
Комментарий от
742472
Just got this after maybe ~30 hours of digging after maxing arch. Had maxed alchemy at the time. I know it doesn't matter though.
Комментарий от
332056
WARNING:
The following claims are in no way to be taken as "If I get 1000 digsites I am gaurenteed this recipe." That is stupid. Please, please, please, please don't call gambler's fallacy because it is irrelevant. I have put quite a bit of thought into my algorithms and the function of this simulation is an accurate model given the assumptions I have presented. The simulation was a console program written in C#.
Since I am a nerd I decided to make a
simulation
to figure out how many dig sites it will take
on average
to receive this item.
Simulation Conditions:
There were 10,000 players.
All Dwarves.
Each player has completed EVERY rare artifact, and when the simulation began had a 1/7th chance of having the canopic jar in their journal.
Each player started with 0 tol'vir fragments
The simulation was conducted 100 times, and the results averaged.
Each player gave up after surveying 10,000 dig sites.
Every player stopped after recieving the pattern.
Fairly reasonably understood assumptions that this simulation makes:
There are 54 dig sites in Kalimdor and 6 Tol'Vir dig sites. There is an equal probability of getting any dig site no matter the race or position on map. Dig sites are chosen after the digsite has been cleared and it is equally possible to get the same digsite as it is any other unoccupied digsite.
There is an equal chance of getting 3, 4, 5, 6, or 7 (dwarf bonus) fragments with each loot.
Each player used as many keystones as possible from looting artifacts.
Each player has completed every rare artifact, and thus will only receive common artifacts.
It is possible to get the same artifact twice in a row and there is a 1/7 chance of getting the canopic jar.
Every player attempted to maximize the chance of recieving a tol'vir digsite by always digging up a tolvir digsite when one appeared.
Some bold assumptions I made on the nature of drop rates:
This recipe has a 15% drop rate from the canopic jar regardless of level. Current data on drop rate is not statistically accurate so your guess is as good as mine. This seemed reasonable to me.
Keystones are a 10% drop from each fragment cache. Whatever. I'll do some testing and see what I can come up with.
My results were as follows:
Successfull finds:
99.99%
(out of 1,000,000 players, some gave up after 10,000 dig sites.)
1107.5 dig sites surveyed on average.
This is about three times as many digsites as it takes to get from 1-525 archaeology. Prepare to spend a long time farming this one, folks.
These figures could be wildly inaccurate. I had to make some big assumptions with drop rates because nobody has any data. I might make a histogram or some other fancy stats once I find better data on things like drop rates. I would like to remind anybody who feels an urge to comment to read the disclaimer and the entire post before commenting, for pete's sake.
Комментарий от
242387
Does anyone know the drop rate of the Recipe?
I've Created 5 jars and havent had it proc yet.
Maybe im just unlucky.
Комментарий от
Runefang
hey guys, found mine today from my first canopic jar (second tol'vir artifact). Was extremely shocked that i did get it, after reading comments from people that they were opening 8 jars and still not getting anything. I still need truegold, so this is going to have to wait a bit :P Alchemy=525 Archeology=525 (though this does not seem to matter). Good luck :)
Комментарий от
743623
Can this proc for an xmute master?
Комментарий от
dimichan
Archaeology does NOT need to be maxed, I just got this on my alchemist tonight (valkiyre, Sisters of Elune realm) at 501 skill. My alchemy was maxed,. though others have said alchemy also doesn't need maxed.
From reading everything, I got very very very lucky, my second Tol'Vir dig started the jar, and about 4 hours later I completed it and got the recipe.
I also had an exceptionally horrible rare creation rate from archaeology prior to getting it - either it was making up for lost time, or I just used up all my luck for a year.
Комментарий от
temmy69
this recipe should be BoA as well as those epic items... Hot fix plz.
Комментарий от
602313
no recipe yet
15 common ( 1 jar )
1 rare
-----------------------------
Edit:
no recipe yet
21 common ( 1 jar )
2 rare
Комментарий от
100333
45 tol'vir commons, 2 tol'vir rares , and just finished my 5th canopic jar with no recipe. Has anyone gotten their recipe not off their first jar, it kinda seems everyone that gets it is really lucky off their first jar.
edit;
50 commons, 2 tol'vir rares and just finished my 6th canopic jar and got the recipe. If you're farming it stay stay strong!
Комментарий от
743623
@Teenka, yes i realised later on it is not a transmute, so can it proc from potion masteR?
Комментарий от
247691
Got it last night after 3 Jars (and like 7 commons plus 1 epic from the Tol'vir) after a week of mindless farming. A nice christmas gift I guess!
Комментарий от
427222
1st Jar as 1st Tol'vir dig popped out the recipt for me yestarday at 465 arch 525 alch think the drop rate is higher then 3% prolly around 20% as along many peps claim it around 1st-2nd try.
Or maybe blizz buff the rate only for xmas XD
Комментарий от
674376
Second canopic jar. I made a total of 13 artifacts (1 rare) before getting the second jar.
Комментарий от
273699
Something to take note of if you are an aspiring Alchemist trying to raise archaeology for this recipe.
Don't get discouraged by the increasingly declining drop percentage of this item. Wowhead does and always has collected data from anybody who submits it, as well as all other database-oriented websites. What this means is that the data recorded for the pattern not only includes canopic jar uses for 450+ archaeologists who also have 450+ alchemy, but alchemist/archaeology combinations whose profession levels are too low for discovering this recipe. In addition to that, the data collected also includes jar uses by people who have neither profession and have 0% chance of finding this recipe.
Don't let numbers on this site discourage you from trying for this recipe.
As it stands, I'm one of the few who are having rediculously terrible luck finding this. With all the research I've done, from people who have reported actually finding this pattern, the drop chance is closer to 10-15%.
However, so far for Tol'Vir I have crafted:
Rares
Ring of the Boy Emperor
Pendant of the Scarab Storm
Commons
1x - Tiny Oasis Mosaic (am currently working on my 2nd as I type this)
1x - Engraved Scimitar Hilt
2x - Sketch of a Desert Palace
3x - Castle of Sand
3x - Cat Statue with Emerald Eyes
6x - Soapstone Scarab Necklace
6x - Canopic Jar
These numbers, now that I've laid them out, seem very depressing. But I'm still trying for it. If I manage to find it before someone else in my guild gets it out of their first jar (which will be my luck), I will edit my post with new numbers.
Edit #1
: I'm now up to 7 soapstone necklaces, 4 cat statues, 2 mosaics. Completed 3 more artifacts with no luck, currently working on yet another cat figurine.
I have 2345 night elf fragments that I can't use because I have all the night elf rares. I also have 1077 fossil fragments that I can't use either.
Still no new jar.
Starting to lose hope.
Edit #2
: FINALLY got this out of my 7th jar.
As it stands I've made 30 commons, 7 of which were jars, and 2 Tol'Vir rares. But, before you look at that and say "she was effing lucky" let me put it into perspective.
It generally took me 4-5 hours to get a single dig site in Uldum the last 2 weeks. I've completed a total of 3 artifacts in the last week alone.
I have over 11 days played at level 85, and at least 7 of those were solely spent farming this pattern. So, over 200 hours played time invested in this item.
Was it worth it? Hell yes. If you really want this mount, be persistent.
I currently have 2968 night elf fragments, have farmed over 60 night elf keystones, and have 1490 fossil fragments. Lots of work, lots of time, lots of torture >_o
Комментарий от
276211
Yeah I am starting to lose hope. 7 Jars and no recipe, others on my server got it on their first Jar. Terribly depressing, though it seems like Archaeology might just hate me... Nearly 200 Night Elf artifacts and still no Trinket either. Wish Blizzard would do something to make this less painful!
Комментарий от
agathora
Is a surprise that, the only mount available for alchemist is that spensive. Compared to the Tailors and Eng. But my question is, once the mount is maked it is selleable?
Комментарий от
745878
Yes, you can sell the mount once you make it
Комментарий от
431202
Just opened my first jar, with my alchemy and archeology both maxed. Recipe did not drop, so it is certainly not a 100% drop for maxed alchemists.
Комментарий от
355744
SO unlike EVERYTHING else where they made it bind on account so as not to needlessly cruel being that this method of getting stuff is just too much to do twice.. For this one item they made an exeption to be mean.
That's simply taking 40hours game time from players for ne other reason than a tick box somewhere wasn't ticked. It's be stupid if It stays like this!
I pity the RP'ers who have to somehow marry this into play.
Комментарий от
Arzanot
Have leveled Archeology to max on my druid and started farming for the recipe the instant i hit 450.
Got my first Uldum digsite after about 45 mins of clearing fossils and NE sites.
This was about a week ago.
Current findings:
Rare
Pendant of the Scarab Storm (4th)
Ring of the Boy Emperor (12th)
Common
Cat Statue with Emerald Eyes (1st)
Castle of Sand (2nd)
Canopic Jar (3rd, 9th, 11th)
Soapstone Scarab Necklace (5th)
Sketch of the Desert Palace (6th, 10th!)
Tiny Oasis Mosaic (7th, 14th
- In progress
)
Engraved Scimitar Hilt (8th, 13th)
Total Hieroglyphs:
15
Statistics:
(excl. Hieroglyphs)
(closed)
Digisites
31
Fragments
417
Avg Frag/site
13,5
Conclusion:
No recipe yet, but I dont expect anything before 3-5 jars. Scarab pendant as the first rare, the most useless of the rares from Tol'vir, lovely :)
Update (a):
Been getting very frequent spawns, even had a triple proc on a Tol'vir site (
proccing another site in Uldum
). Was fortunate to get 4 hieroglyphs over 3 sites. And currently on the 2nd jar with hopes up. RNG can be your enemy or your friend.
Update (b):
I Consider myself pretty fortunate to get 2 jars within 3 solves, lets see if the 3rd wont bear fruit. Fragment/site seems steady atm. Average time between spotted sites has been approximately 15 minutes.
To Be Continued...
Комментарий от
Trandoshan123
My math said that after 17 jars you have a 50% chance that the recipe is in one of them:
Coin flip has a probability that heads appears in 50% the flips. The probability of not flipping a head in two tosses is .5x.5 or 1/4, in 3 tosses it's .5x.5x.5 or .5^3 which equals 1/8. The probability for heads not showing up in n number of tosses is .5^n
The probability of the recipe not being in the jar is 96% assuming the 4% above is accurate. So the same thing applies to the drop rate .96^n = the probability of it not being in any of those jars. If you want to know what n is for a percentage, then type this into a calculator: (log )/(log .96) this will give you n or the number of jars required to open. Lol sorry if this is a bit technical.
Комментарий от
matts117
Has anyone been lower than level 85 when they found the recipe? Because some people have found it immediately & others have opened many jars without finding it, it makes me wonder if you need alchemy as a profession AND level 85.
Комментарий от
745878
You do not need to be 85 to find the recipe.
You do not need to have 525 archaeology to find the recipe, only above 450.
You do not need to have 525 alchemy to find the recipe.
Комментарий от
741325
Hi im lvl83, i have archeology and Alchemy maxed 525, do i need to be lvl85 to find the recipie?
Комментарий от
Kate452
I got Canopic Jar on my 1st, 3rd, 6th, and 8th common artifact drop with no recipe yet. Almost like looking at the numbers on a Powerball Ticket and seeing that 4 of your numbers on it matches today's winning numbers, and then realizing that you are looking at last month's Powerball Ticket. =/
I hope your have better luck with the RNG God then I have with the recipe.
EDIT: Got my recipe on my 6th Jar last night. =D But my buddy got in his 2nd jar a few days ago. =/ Oh well. No more farming for the recipe.
Комментарий от
752157
Ok so after i leveled my main to level 85, and blizz changed the mount to be boe, i quickly started to level ONLY archaeology on my hunter (level 80). I leveled to 450 on Eastern Kingdom, and a bit on Outland because digging up and down drove me nuts. When i hit 450 i started to dig up Kalimdor (this was on 23th of dec). By the time my hunter became 82.5, remember, ONLY by digging.
Now, my hunter is level 85 (still, only by digging), and no recipe yet. 5 level, 9+5+2+1.6 million xp only by digging (not rested xp, normal), and no recipe.
I got :
3 canopic jar,
2 rare (scarab storm pendant, ring of the boy emperor in progress atm)
2 soapstone necklace
2 cat statue
2 castle of sand
1 tiny mosaic
3 scimitar hilt
3 sketch
When i started this project NOONE on my realm had idea about the mount, about the recipe, and how to get the recipe. I wanted to be the first, i have 100+ hour in this, and i'm very disappointed.
My digging tactic is this:
dig from up to down till i get 4 uldum digsite, then dig those, rinse and repeat. I have almost all night elf rares, plenty of repeats of course, and my bag is full of fossil stuff too :)
Комментарий от
279474
Farming for this has made me an angry person.
So far, 30 Tol'Vir commons completed, only 3 of which were jars, obviously none containing the recipe.
4 Rares completed, though this includes the battle tank, which is at least consolation.
However, I do not recommend anyone pick up this terrible profession. The rewards really aren't worth it, (though nothing in this game really feels that way anymore) and you spend so much time digging up worthless ^&*! (hello fossil/troll/470000nightelffragmentsomfgkillmenow still no doll srsly?) you can't get anything else productive accomplished.
Oh and I've wasted about 10,000 gold on Tol'Vir Hieroglyphics. (@800 a piece)
FML
Комментарий от
quebmb
Recipe Drop received with the following facts:
Recipe was inside the first Canopic Jar solved, though other posts suggest that this is not a common drop as they have solved multiple Canopic Jars with no recipe inside.
Archaeology was maxed at 525, however Alchemy was only at 510 at the time of the find.
Total Artifacts solved:
Dwarf: 5
Fossil: 28 (mount and pet found)
Night Elf: 86 (all rares found except trinket)
Tol'vir: 6 (1 rare Pendant of the Scarab Storm found)
Troll: 12
All leveling and otherwise was done completely on Kalimdor. At no time did I travel to any of the other continents or zones.
I was exceedingly lucky in this drop, I squeed both IRL and over chat to various friends for a good 20 minutes or so. Good luck and happy hunting to you all who are also searching for this elusive recipe. Should also be noted that my toon is an 85 priest. No summoning or porting tricks. I did most of this strictly through use of flight points and the occasional hearth. Archaeology maxed 525 on December 25th 2010. Recipe dropped a week and a day later. I don't know how many hours I have put into this project, but a good portion of my wow time since I hit 85 (in the first week of release) has been dedicated to this rather then instancing or leveling one of my other toons. And I'm not done! I have a bunch of rares that I still need to dig up...now however I can be a little more picky with which continents I can go to.
Комментарий от
414884
(hello fossil/troll/470000nightelffragmentsomfgkillmenow still no doll srsly?)
haha I had to smile about this
sorry for you, but it is good to be around people feeling the same way finding the recipe
share the madness :-)
I started bravely with this mission, having alot of time consuming achievements already (Loremaster pre-cata, pets (whelps) and many fishing achievements)
To tell you the truth after 8 common Tol'vir artifacts (1 jar) and 1 rare (scarabs) the fellowship is already breaking apart.
My mind is telling me to farm the 8k gold. That is the amount Alchemists are asking to craft the drake on my realm.
With almost all dwarf, NE and troll rare artifacts in the bag (Zinrokh and Tyrande's doll) this mission is becoming more boring and time consuming than it already is. No I didn't do The Insane and probably never will.
What makes this mission even more difficult is that you're flying around digging for the recipe, your guildies are doing fun stuff (heroics, pvp, getting epic gear).
Ofcourse never forget your goal. The mount will feel better if you craft it yourself, you raise your reputation on the realm and your guildies favor your forever when you craft this baby for free.
When you find this recipe, you will fall asleep with a very big satisfied smile on your face. Happy as a little child on christmas evening.
Комментарий от
Rebs
Sorry if posted but do you need max lvl alch to
see
this recipe?
Комментарий от
471178
I only leveled my archaeology for that recepie. It took LOADS of time, but eventually it is rewarding. My advice is dig only in EK whie you reach max levels, because you will hate it if you are all the time on Kalimdor. It is a bit easier for a mage, since we can teleport and set HS in the middle of the continent.
My recepie was in the 3d Canopic Jar, until I got that one I solved almost all the common Tol'vir twice, so it took forever. In meantime I got every single Night elf rare....besides the intellet trinket of course... would be too much :D
But dig dig dig dig and you will get it!
Комментарий от
755718
Oh my! I must count myself lucky! The first Canopic Jar I opened up and it contained this recipe yesterday :)
I am still grinding for that trinket thought :(
Комментарий от
CrimsinPagan
I finally got this today. Now, I can finally quit doing anything with this awful profession.
Комментарий от
602313
44 Total Tol'vir artefacts
2 Rares ( pendant / ring )
42 Common ( 5 jar )
------------------------------------
Canopic jar (5)
Castle of Sant (4+1) one in progress
Englaved hilt (7)
Sketch of desert palace (7)
Cat Statue (5)
Soapstone Scarab Necklace (6)
Tyni Oasis Mosaic (8)
And no recipe... I hope that i get the recipe in next jar or second next.
edit:
2 Rares ( pendant / ring )
48 Common ( 7 jar )
Комментарий от
394020
this is highway robbery. some one please please tell me cheats to making money. I dont see how people come up with 30k gold for mounts. blizzard needs to lower the prices. I been workin on chopper forever an the two person riding mount in dal since i started. now this one? well thats what 3 mounts i am not gonna get. shakes head.....sigh... :(
I was hopin blizz would get the idea an lower the prices once cata hit, but what do they do..jack them up.....
Комментарий от
756879
After reading theese comments I was preparing for a long grind, but got the recipe from the 2nd jar I created. Keep at it guys, the drake looks great.
Комментарий от
Dukuna
Guildie got this in 8 Tol'vir finds in his second jar. Talk about lucky!
Комментарий от
757621
8 jars, still no recipe.
210 night elf solves, still no trinket.
i'm beginning to wonder if there is some sort of bug for some people that causes their odds to get this thing to be way lower or something. Seeing people talk about "finally" getting it after 2 or 3 solves is very upsetting, considering the trouble some of us are having :(
Oh, and Rekra: Nice trolling with that. There's no need to come in here and basically taunt people who have made a ton of crap and still not gotten it.
Комментарий от
744008
I got a shocking drop of this recipe today. I've had the
Canopic Jar common
artifact come up before and didn't get squat from it. So, just for fun, once i got the Tol'vir runes to solve for the jar, I flew down into Uldum to the
Cradle of the Ancients
(~43,72) and solved this Jar there. I almost crapped my pants when this recipe dropped out. I had to reread it twice before the shock wore off.
I have no idea if this really works or if i was just really really lucky... :) A confirmation would be nice... :)
Комментарий от
camaz0tz
Got the Canopic on my 3rd Tol'Vir, then got the recipe from that Canopic.
I know, I'm lucky. Still no NE trinket though, FML.
Комментарий от
stevekrok
I am an Alchemist and this has dropped from the first Jar I opened. I'm not sure if the other people farming jars are alchemist, but I know the droprate reported by Wowhead will be skewed by two things:
1) people who already have the recipe opening the jars
2) people who are not alchemist opening the jars
Комментарий от
quebmb
You are quite correct Kolenka. I was one of those lucky few that received the recipe out of the first Canopid Jar solved. I have solved a total of
6 Tol'Vir artifacts
. 4 commons, number 5 was the Scarab Pendant, number 6 was the Canopic Jar which contained my recipe.
The canopic jar itself is
not considered a rare artifact
. The recipe while it is an epic item does
not
count in the archeology achievements for rare finds, confirmed when I opened the jar and learned it with
9/10
rares already found for the
"I Had It in My Hand"
achievement and the
Assistant Professor Title
. The achievement
did not
complete. I would think it is on a different scale then the rest of the rare items and I don't see how solving rares in Tol'Vir would affect the frequency rate of the drop except for furthering along the cycle of items queueing up to get to the next Canopic Jar.
It appears to be completely random. Some get it off the first jar they open, some of the third or fourth, some are on their 15th jar and still have not seen the recipe, assuming those opening 15+ jars are also alchemists and have a chance to see the recipe. I've corrected multiple people complaining about not finding the recipe on my server who were all fired up about leveling archeology in hopes to get this recipe drop so they could exploit alchemists and sell it for thousands of gold on the AH. I burst their bubbles informing them a) recipe was BOP and b) smart loot.
While it requires max alchemy to learn, you do
*not*
have to have max alchemy to see the drop as My Alchemy was 510 at the time of the find. Unknown if someone who has just trained but not leveled the alchemy is still able to see the drop or not.
I posted this above but I think people may have marked as negative and 'unhelpful' out of spite *because* I got it in my first drop. Apologies to all of you who may have seen it as me trolling because of my luck. I am by no means trying to cheapen anyone's hard work trying to locate this recipe but the good luck drops are just as meaningful as the ones that take forever in figuring out the statistics and drop rates. If it makes you all feel any better, I still haven't seen the darn Nelf Trinket. :P
Комментарий от
Mognar
Here's my pain...
2 days, 20 hours played since I hit 425. At that point I used all the dwarf artifacts that I saved; I saved them all, hoping for the staff. That would have made this a little less painful...
I have all the NE rares.
I have solved 30 Tol'Vir artifacts, 2 of which were the Pendant and Ring. 5 of which were jars... each of course contained remains.
My alchemy was at 525 before picking up Archaelogy and of course, I was at 525 in Arch after discovering all the dwarf artifacts.
So the two items I'm after, the recipie and staff have not been seen yet...
Sigh... I'll up date late... I have some holes to dig.
Anyone else saving the fossil and N Elf in case they add more items later? :)
Also, I have 3366 N Elf pieces and 1418 Fossil saved...
I just completed the current artifact I was on when I orginally posted and the next was a jar... keep your fingers crossed for me :)
Well.... jar # 6 and another mummified organ.... but the next artifact... another jar. 2 in a row. Now they are starting to tease me...
Jar # 7.... mummified Organ...
Jar # 8... and yes, you guessed it.... mummified organ...
Up to 44 Tol'Vir artifacts, no more jars in the last 8 hours or so and my new artifact is The Scepter of Azj'Aquir.... Just what I wanted... NOT. Now 150 more pieces until the next... sigh.
After getting The Scepter artifact, I spent 6 hours without one Tol'Vir dig site.... After finally completing it the next item was the cat's eye...
After that, I received my 9th Jar... 3 days, 8 hours played of nothing but digging and finally... I received the recipe! No god damn more digging! Well, until I get a hair up my *** and want to work on the dwarven staff.
I was about to give up, but with the time invested so far, that wasn't an option.
The nicest thing about it... is now I can actually start playing the game and enjoying it :)
For the others out there... good luck! It's a long, boring road... unless you get lucky like some. But it's out there... What's a little tunnel carpel syndrom for a nice mount? :)
Also, this was completed on a mage... and I have 5642 N Elf pieces and 2334 fossil saved up after getting all their associated rares... just to give you an idea of how many sites I had to touch...
Комментарий от
chrixian
I had 4 Canopic Jars sitting in my bank that I finished before ever learning alchemy, today I decided to drop mining and train alchemy-- When my skill was 516 I remembered I had them in my bank and decided to open them and on the 2nd jar I got the recipe... So if you don't have alchemy but you have the jars hold on to them just in case you decide to take up alchemy someday.
Комментарий от
755012
Here are my stats so far:
Dwarf: 9
Draenei: 9
Fossil: 142
Night Elf: 357
Orc: 6
Tol'Vir: 86
Troll: 52
I've gotten the
Ring of the Boy Emperor
and
The Pendant of the Scarab Storm
from Tol'vir along with:
Scimitar Hilt: 14
Castle of Sand: 14
Oasis Mosiac: 13
Palace Sketch: 12
Cat Statue: 11
Soapstone Necklace: 11
Canopic Jar: 9
As you can see, I am exceedingly unlucky at this, but I'm not giving up hope yet. I keep having creeping suspicions that it's not just simple RNG behind these drop rates.
Комментарий от
752157
By the way anyone brought this up on Blizzard forum? I mean if this recipe/mount is like Chopper was in Wotlk, this should not be soooo grindy. A bit grindy is ok, but many of us has 100+ hours in this project, where the mount was bop by default, and only the vendor parts are 30k (plus 24 flask + 12 truegold)
Комментарий от
rustam88
haha its amazing how selfowning greed can be. this guy was asking 15k fee for mount lol. while me and 2 guildies got ours from someone else for 3k each. moral of the story - greedy noob failed on getting 9k gold with no effort instantly.
Комментарий от
551128
Here's my tally:
Canopic Jar: 8th contained recipe!
Castle of Sand: 5
Cat Statue with Emerald Eyes: 6
Engraved Scimitar Hilt: 3
Sketch of a Desert Palace: 2
Soapstone Scarab Necklace: 8
Tiny Oasis Mosaic: 3
Pendant of the Scarab Storm
Ring of the Boy Emperor
All Night Elf and Fossil artifacts (including rares)
Also, it's worth pointing out -- you must be
at least
level 80 before dig sites will appear in Uldum and Mount Hyjal. I leveled alchemy to 525 as soon as I hit level 75 and started digging in Kalimdor with no luck. I finally put in a ticket and the GM confirmed that level 80 is a requirement for those dig sites.
Комментарий от
419521
Note: This is in reply to a deleted post, but I'm leaving it since it does respond to a common counterargument. Essentially, this is a reply to the belief that "anyone who farmed the recipe did it to get the mount for themselves, so the horrible grind was so THEY could have a mount. Any mounts they make after that is free and no effort, it's greedy and inconsiderate to charge money to make it, and if you do want money then a small tip should be enough!"
I can see your point, but you're still making a lot of assumptions.
Personally, I've been farming (at 2-5 hours/day, every day, for two weeks) the mount not for myself, but because I'd like to be able to sell it and make a profit. Between the keystones I've found and used instead of selling, and the keystones I've bought just to use, I've probably sunk about 20k gold into the grind so far. I also picked up and maxed alchemy
just
for this, which was another 10k gold.
When you also consider the amount of money I could've made if I hadn't been farming for the recipe, but instead grinding other things, doing dailies, and playing the AH then I'm down
much
more than a mere 20-30k. This is my only character on this realm, and I don't have any casters -- In this entire grind, I've yet to find a single rare piece of equipment I can actually use. If I had spent all this time doing heroics, I'd be fully geared and ready for raiding by now. Instead, I'm still wearing a lot of the quest greens I first dinged 85 with.
You also need to remember that this mount isn't something necessary for normal play, it is purely a status symbol -- the entire
point
of a status symbol is that they're hard to get. In this it's hard to get because it costs a lot of money.
After all this, I'm still no closer today to finding the recipe than I was two weeks ago. Random drops are random, and I've spoke to several people who got the recipe in their first jar since I began this ordeal. You say it's greedy to want a big tip for this, but you really need to consider the time invested against that. You said that being considerate to your fellow wow player is more important than greed: but which fellow player are you considering?
After investing virtually all of my free time for two weeks on this grind just in order to make money, someone certainly isn't being considerate to
me
by selling the mount so cheap that, at the end of the grind, the entire thing has been nothing but a fantastic waste of time and gold. They're not being very considerate to the people who grinded the mount themselves, either -- suddenly their unique status symbol has been reduced to something much more common, much easier to get.
True, 3k gold is a tidy profit on making the mount. But you also need to consider that a lot of the people who wanted the mount already have it, and there aren't infinite customers in line to buy from you. I doubt someone who finds the recipe today will be able to sell very many mounts, to be honest. At 3k gold each, it could take many months before a newcomer has made enough money in tips to even recoup the cost (both in burned keystones and wasted time) of getting the recipe in the first place. It's not greedy to want to break even faster than that, it's
human
. The person you bought the mount from probably either got very lucky and didn't have to grind for their recipe, or they got it so long ago they made hundreds of thousands of gold selling it early on and are now trying to undercut newcomers to drive them away.
(/wall of text)
Комментарий от
765422
I can say the myth about "You will not get any repeats unless you complete every common artifact for that skill level for any given race." Is not true. As others have stated I have gotten repeats before I've solved every single grey in a given tier.
I think that it isnt myth. All think about just races but there are also level tiers for some races. In case of tol'vir or nerubian or orc it doesnt matter because they are 300-375, 375-450 or 450-525 but NE or Troll (fossil and dwarf too ofc) have less commons 1-300 level and once you reach 450+ (maybe also for other levels not just 450) you open new commons. You may see these common having requirement of more fragments and having 2 slots for keystone, lower level common needed like just 30 fragments and had no keystone or just one slot for it. Thats probably why you get repeats and still dont had all commons solved. Same apply for rares i dont think you can get NE rare trinket below 450 as you cant get those higher commons.
Until will someone confirm of getting repeat on tol'vir common (which is top tier currently) before getting all 7 commons i ll take this as truth. Repeats on NE arent real proof because of those level tiers.
In my case i had exactly 7 commons tol vir in row. One of each ofc no luck for recipe :( and now, solved another 20 commons including 2 tol vir rare and still no canopic jar repeat.
Комментарий от
jack445
I was trying to get the doll and was just digging in Uldum when I was close. Jar was my 7th artifact (one of those 6 was Pendant of the Scarab Storm, other were common). I've found that recipe in that first jar. Game could be a bit less random though, seeing so many people trying to get it for days.
Комментарий от
766338
78 Tol'vir projects completed to include all rares.
13 jars. No recipe
Комментарий от
thorismud
does anyone know if it is possible to create an extra vial of the sands if you have a certain mastery?
Комментарий от
Sorchael
Dropped for me in the first Canopic jar I put together.
Комментарий от
Zarayvia
Has anyone else had this problem: I've been farming for the canopic jar for weeks for hours at a time and I have only been able to solve the jar once.
I am 525 Alchemy and 525 Archaeology for at least 2 weeks now, I have Pendant of the Scarab Storm and Ring of the Boy Emperor. These are my current stats:
Engraved Scimitar Hilt-3
Soapstone Scarab Necklace-4
Castle of Sand-4
Cat Statue-2
Sketch of Desert Palace-2
Canopic Jar-1 (completed 1/02/2011)
Tiny Oasis Mosaic-3
I'm sure it's just as frustrating to open 15 jars to finally get the recipe, but I can't even get the jars! Anyone else having this problem?
Thanks
Комментарий от
Natgam
Just got the recipe in my 1st canopic jar, same time as I got the Boy who would be king achieve.
Комментарий от
Zarayvia
Thanks for your replies, I do take some comfort in knowing I'm not the only one going through this, I was starting to think my game was bugged or something lol. I opened my first Canopic jar before I had gotten the Boy who would be king achievement, had I'd known it was a requirement to get the recipe I prob would have waited to solve it, but I'm not sure if that would have made a difference.
Well happy hunting!
Комментарий от
Soulcifer
Maxed Alch 525, Arch 525, have Ring of the Boy Emperor, Scarab Necklace... Just opened my 5th Canopic Jar to find nothing in it....
The worst part is after seeing the Jar was the common item, it took literally 4 straight hours of digging to get a single Uldum site to pop.... Finally some did and I completed it to find nothing yet again....
Stats are as follows so far:
3 Castle of Sand
5 Cat Statue with Emerald Eyes
4 Tiny Oasis Mosaic
5 Soapstone Scarab Necklace
2 Sketch of a Desert Palace
5 Canopic Jars
12 Engraved Scimitar Hilt
3726 NE pieces unused
1520 Fossil Unused
This grind is the worst I have done in my gaming history... It takes a special person to keep at this with anything over 5 jars completed with no success... The RGN system has no garauntees no matter how much time you put into it... That is the SCARY part... I have to be honest in that I am struggling to continue with the same focus... When I see people looted this in one or two jars I realize it could possibly be 20+ jars with no success with this system in place...!
Fix:
My suggestion would be that once you complete all rares within a certain race... You gain something like Archaeology Focus which would allow you to lock-out that racial digsite... So in the example of Kalimdor, if you completed all the Fosil Rares, you could then lock out the fossil sites and your chances for Uldum increase slightly... Once you grind enough and are able to knock out the Nightelf Rares, Uldum becomes open to complete and your odds are significantly greater... This way you have a sense of accomplishment and not feel like each piece you grab is a complete waste of time... It would still take awhile even with this system but it would reward hard work on not rely completely on a RGN system... My two cents
** The spawn rate for Uldum digsites is just Awful...!
Edit** Just got the recipe after the 6th Jar... I am one happy player that I can not express in words... Maybe it is because all that grinding is over..! lol
Комментарий от
Lienter
After mindlessly grinding for a few weeks now, this recipe is getting on my nerves. I was originally lured into the grind by my three friends who had all gotten the recipe on their very first Canopic Jar, very early on in the expansion, but boy didn't I know what I was in for. Fast-forward up to now, and I've completed a total of 1314 archaeology projects, whereas nearly 700 of them are Night Elf only. 175 of the projects are of Tol'vir nature, consisting of the two standard rares (Scarab thing and the ring) and these commons:
28xEngraved Scimitar Hilt
23xTiny Oasis Mosaic
24xSoapstone Scarab Necklace
28xCat Statue with Emerald Eyes
20xSketch of a Desert Palace
20xCastle of Sand
...
30xCanopic Jar
I've solved and opened
30
Canopic Jars, all containing that mummified piece of... I believe I'm on the very poor end of the luck-o-meter, considering the amount of comments mentioning 7-8 jars. *sigh* Back to zig-zag flying across Kalimdor.
Комментарий от
155296
*NOTE:
You need 450 Archeology to obtain the recipe, and it is extremely RNG. I have heard it was obtained with an alchemy skill as low as 225, though it requires 525 to make.
(Approximate odds)
13% Chance to get a Tol'Vir digsite in Uldum (you need 3-4 to complete a Canopic Jar)
12% Chance to be working on a Canopic Jar
10% Drop rate of the recipe out of a Canopic Jar
So assuming you get 1 Tol'Vir digsite every 30 min and about a 1.5%* chance of getting this for every 3-4 digsites.
We are talking about an average 1200** hours of archeology. This does seem a bit high, so I am hoping the rates I have are wrong. Please post if you have better data on the rates.
*.13x.12x.1=.00156
**30x3.5/.0015/60 =1166
While your calculation of the probability is quite an interesting one, I am asking myself another question:
Is it better to mine every dig-site giving Tol'vir artifacts once it pops up, or is it just as good to mine all others and going to Uldum and mine all dig-sites there? I would guess that yes, you I should go there every time it pops up to highten the chance of another dig-site in Uldum.
Any thoughts?
Edit:
Added Quote to improve reference.
Комментарий от
malminos
4 Scimitar hilts
6 Scarab necklaces
7 cat statues
4 castles of sand
6 Mosaics
8 desert palace sketches
5 canopic random droprate time wasting hell jars.
I will update this as i go... i really truly already am starting to loathe archaeology and the canopic jar. It wouldn't be so bad but sometimes i'll grind for 5 hours straight and see two tol'vir sites.
Hate really doesn't encompass how i feel about this grind. Apparently blizzard is trying to out-do korean MMOs in terms of grind with this skill and are winning by a huge margin.
Комментарий от
248983
This sucks beyond belief, it's taking me an average of 15-20 other dig sites just to get one to show up in Uldum, I've only been doing it for about a week now, and to make things more painful the first tol'var item I had to make was a rare, so 150 fragments right there, and now I'm on a second rare, so another 150 before I can even move onto my next item, oy...
Комментарий от
shorpo
Is it better to mine every dig-site giving Tol'vir artifacts once it pops up, or is it just as good to mine all others and going to Uldum and mine all dig-sites there?
There are 63 digsites available in Kalimdor. 9 are Tol'vir. Once you clear a digsite, the next can't be the same you just cleared.
Uldum digsites available----Chance for the next digsite pop at Uldum:
----------------------0:---------------------------------~15.3% (9/59)
----------------------1:---------------------------------~13.6% (8/59)
----------------------2:---------------------------------~11.9% (7/59)
----------------------3:---------------------------------~10.2% (6/59)
Never let them build up. Go to Uldum as soon as they pop there (
Deepholm
-> Capital City -> Uldum). The time you save most certainly pays for the
Potions of Deepholm
.
Комментарий от
411790
7th dud Canopic Jar!
Getting frustrated -- this recipe was really the only artifact I wanted from day 1 but instead (not that I'm complaining) I've gotten the mount, the staff, the ring, the scarabs... and a migraine.
EDIT
: 13 days of digging later,
STILL
on my 7th stinking jar! Ugh! I haven't dropped the F-bomb this much on any other part of the game -- not even on my 203rd (
finally
) successful attempt at the Baron's mount; my neighbors must think I have Tourette syndrome!
Here are the current stats on my Tol'vir artifacts thus far:
7 Canopic Jar
8 Soapstone Scarab Necklace
12 Cat Statue with Emerald Eyes
14 Sketch of a Desert Place
4 Castle of Sand
6 Tiny Oasis Mosaic (working on #7)
8 Engraved Scimitar Hilt
10 Jade Asp with Ruby Eyes
Pendant of the Scarab Storm
Ring of the Boy Emporer
Staff of Ammunae
Scepter of Azj'Aqir
and "It Belongs in a Museum" with the subsiquent Professor title (and in fact, have all of the Archaeology achievments)
Grand total for Tol'vir artifacts to date:
73
Also, I only have 4 other rare archaeology artifacts available.
Adding insult to injury, one day I spent an entire 20 hour straight grind digging with only bio and food breaks and not a single solitary Uldum site opened! I even moved to a PvE server in hopes of making digging go faster.
Here is my current stand on this topic: I pride myself in having all of the other alchemy recipes available in the game (and previous good luck at aquiring them) however, if I gather the mats before I have the recipe (only 3 Sands of Time left to purchase) I'm paying someone to make it and throwing away this stupid pick! I would much rather spend my time farming rare mounts or pets rather than taking the chance I'll get something that I take the chance I'll get something else inside of!
I'm annoyed, I'm tired, and there are buckets of sand in my underwear!
Комментарий от
773659
12 jars, no recipe. I salute those who go beyond 20 and still continue. I've completed roughly 50 Tol'vir artifacts, so I'm not complaining about the number of jars that have been made available to me. I do wish, though, that they would reduce the number of fragments needed from 45 to about 35 and only letting us use 1 keystone instead of 2. I rarely even get one, so that wouldn't really matter. Anyway, if you want this recipe, you must be prepared for a long, long grind. The worst one I have done by far. Or... you get really lucky in find it in your first 3 jars. And btw... complaining after you've opened under 5 jars is just sad. Either you go all the way, or you give up... your choice.
12 jars and still going strong... happy digging!
(If anyone was wondering, you can get the jar multiple times in a row, my best one so far being 4)
Комментарий от
hanash82
can i send this to my alt ? if i dont have alchemy prof.
Комментарий от
daerelas
So it seems like the question no one has asked is, what happens if you get the jar and are NOT an alchemist? My 525 archaeologist is still searching for this jar, but I'm wondering if I will just never get the recipe because I'm not an alchemist, or will I still have a chance to get it and be able to sell/bank it if I choose?
Комментарий от
KingNothing73
What's up with the recorded drop rate? It was listed at 5% forever, now it's 38%.
EDIT: Just saw that the recorded drop rate for Mummified Organs is 1000%. I'm guessing Wowhead added an extra zero to the drop counts for some reason, which means the drop rate should be listed at 3.8%. And yes, I realize that's taking into account the non-alchemists who opened it.
Комментарий от
c0h3n
I have created a thread on the forums to collect the drop rate of
Рецепт: фиал песков
from
Канопа
for alchemists. Alchemists interested in contributing data can visit it
here
.
Комментарий от
Strato
Can confirm this:
Friend who did his archeology, kept all jars unopened in his bank, later he rerolled as achemist, opened jars and recipe was inside.
Комментарий от
570044
Is it better to mine every dig-site giving Tol'vir artifacts once it pops up, or is it just as good to mine all others and going to Uldum and mine all dig-sites there?
I have had better results by digging Tol'vir sites as soon as the pop up.
heres some theory to support.
we have 9 digsites in Uldum and 63 digsites in kalimdor.
If you dig Tol'vir digsites as soon as they pop-up - then probability that the next digsite will pop up in Uldum is 9/63
If you have 1 digsite already present in Uldum - then probability that the next digsite will pop up in Uldum is 8/63
If you have 2 digsite already present in Uldum - then probability that the next digsite will pop up in Uldum is 7/63
If you have 3 digsite already present in Uldum - then probability that the next digsite will pop up in Uldum is 6/63
0% chance to buil-up more than 3 sites in the same area
I am diggin from 2 days and still dont have the recipe. pitty myself :(
Комментарий от
601919
Coolest but most expensive mount in the game to make and get people to make 45k is want i got offered!
Комментарий от
93026
Once you clear a digsite, the next can't be the same you just cleared.
This is actual an incorrect statement. I have on at least 2 occurences I have cleared a site with the next site being the one I had just cleared (one such time was today, saddly a fossile site). No I did not miscount the number of artifacts I dug up.
Комментарий от
SandraLee
Sometimes you can get lucky. I uncovered all of the Tol'vir commons and the mount before my first canopic jar was discovered. I then uncovered two commons before my next canopic jar. Right after I solved my second canopic jar, a third canopic jar was uncovered. That was the one with the recipe. So, three canopic jars for me.
Комментарий от
delsius
got the recipe in my first jar. about a week ago prior to the patch
Комментарий от
Sarne
Been digging non-stop for 3 days now. Four jars deep and no joy. I'm not really surprised though.
I've completed all Night Elf and Fossil rares and completed the Zin'Rokh on another character on this server, which raises the question can I complete multiple Unique-Equipped rares on the same server?
Anyways, I think I've noticed an increase in the spawn rate of Tol'Vir digsites.
Also, my philosophy has been a little different on the Tol'Vir digsites. I like getting all four down there, then going to town. Usually it trains off into another 2-3 digs which just feels like I accomplish more instead of teleporting down every time I get one.
Edit: Answered my own question. Here's Ring of the Boy Emperor #2.
Комментарий от
Zanzier
15th Canopic Jar had the recipe.
Over 22k in fragments, total (and still going).
The the person(s) who said that getting 4 Uldum dig sites at one time was impossible:
I've had it happen to me twice so far. And that was before 4.0.6 went live. Granted. This was over a month of
continuous digging (anywhere between 2 to 8 hours per day).
With the vial of the sands, many 'ride me' and 'I'm truly an epic mount' jokes have begun.
My only thing is, if the rider wants 'variable speeds', they'll have to supply their own haste potions. =P
Комментарий от
Sixpac
The chance to get a canopic jar (and the drake recipe) is much better since patch 4.0.6 because 7 new Tol'vir sites have been added to the Kalimdor pool. The new chance for Tol'vir sites to pop up is 23,19% (if you strictly dig in Kalimdor).
Комментарий от
248983
seems several people have gotten the recipe on my server this week, the price of the mount has gone down to the point of being barely above cost of mats, so looks like the days of getting a 15-20k profit off of it are over.
Комментарий от
modernmage
Redundant thought but they must've increased the drop rate on this item. Tonight I started my first Tol'vir project ever, and it was a jar, finished the jar within 45 minutes (even getting 2 back to back digsites in Uldum), opened it and inside was the pattern. I know I might be extremely lucky but I never have this kind of luck with anything so I'm skeptical.
Комментарий от
57746
I have looted 10 of these Jars, and have still not gotten the drake. i have max Alchemy and am gobblin, so it's actually at 540 skill level...
GRRR
Комментарий от
786111
Can only alchemists pick this up? Or can everyone because my main is an arch and an alt is an alchemist
Комментарий от
773659
Got the recipe on my 15th Canopic jar. I've completed 73 artifacts, including the "common" 2 rares. I had actually given up on getting this recipe, but after the patch (which included 7 more Uldum digsites) I decided to give it another shot. I asked a GM if having an Uldum digsite made the chances of getting another one less likely, but he confirmed that every digsite was randomly chosen from those who are available. Of course, getting 1 and then ignoring it to get more makes the chances of another on less likely as there a fewer Uldum digsites to pick from. Prior to the patch I would have recommended those looking for this recipe to go to the Uldum digsite as soon as it appeared, but now I would say that allowing 2 or 3 digsites is much better. Having more than one made it easier for me to keep digging, as I could solve 1 and then see what the next one was. Still, this recipe is hard to get. You might get lucky and find one in your first 3 jars, but some may have to open 15-30 jars (or more) to get it.
Buying it from someone else is much less time consuming, and the time you will spend on getting it is time you could have spent on farming the gold to buy it (and much more). If you're like me and won't stop until you acutally get it yourself, you may have to dig until you start to go insane. The new digsites has made it much easier, but for all you unlucky bastard out there... this may be a long, long grind.
Happy digging!
Комментарий от
Cinderwild
Remind me again why this is Bind on Pick Up. That's just ridiculous. What if we happen to level up archaeology on a character other than our alchemist? Should we be forced to go through -that- process again? THAT process? Ugh.
Комментарий от
frclaus
To add a little about the statistics of getting the recipe - I lucked out and got it in my second jar.
Комментарий от
NelleRavencrest
I just got 4 - yes FOUR
Канопа
's solves in a row O_O
As you can see on the screenshot I solved the 3 of them and on my way to the 4th (Not doing it until I have 2 Hieroglyphs):
http://i55.tinypic.com/jzinpw.jpg
And I'm not even an alchemist, I am so so so sorry for those of you out there farming for it day in and day out. I'm just hunting for the damned
Скипетр Аз'Акира
:(
From now on I will be putting these in bank (without peeking into them first). Maybe they become non BoP or the
Рецепт: фиал песков
is turned into BoA or without any bind and also drops for non-alchemists at some patch in the future. Just wonder if the drop inside them is decided once they are solved/created or when the container is opened. In any case the items might just be invisible for non-alchemists with an option of turning them visible in the database somehow in a patch.
Anyway, got nothing to loose by saving them for a few patches other than a bit of bank-space.
EDIT: I'm MAJOR bugged, I've gotten
Канопа
6 (SIX) times in a ROW now .............
The mathematic chance for this should be 1 in ~ 117.646 (There is 7 Tol'vir commons, so 7x7x7x7x7x7, this is without calculating in the chance of getting the rare ones, also
Канопа
might have even lower chance of beeing your solve, making the chance of this happening even less) and I've made a ticket to find out of something fishy is going on after this mornings hotfix.
I have Tol'vir fragments to do 2 more solves. But really don't feel like testing if I'm still stuck at the Jar since im actually farming for the scepter. But if I get one more after this one it would bring it up to close to one in a million chance.
If some of you are hunting
Рецепт: фиал песков
you might wanna press on today and see if you can get a
Канопа
and get "stuck" on it just like me !
Комментарий от
753365
I was wondering the other day:
I have 525 archaeology on my DK and i have alchemy on my priest but no archaeology at all. Is it possible for me to send this recipe(that's if i find it somewhen) on my priest ?is it BoA or BoP?
Комментарий от
Teenka
4th jar, right after I got the scarab mount. lucky :))
Комментарий от
417054
Learning this mount will now be its own achievement as of PTR 4.1 (subject to change)! 10 points.
Vial of the Sands - Learn how to transform into a dragon and carry an ally.
Source: MMO Champ
Vial of the Sands
Комментарий от
148640
While trying to get the bug mount from Tol'Vir solves, I decided to save up about 15 Canopic Jars in my bank.
Picked up alchemy from a trainer and leveled from 1-500 one day, and opened the Jars I had in my bank. The recipe dropped from the first.
So just dropping by to say that you SHOULD save your Canopic Jars even if you're not an alchemist. You might want to change professions some day.
Now if only I could have as much luck with the mount as I had with the recipe...
Комментарий от
pixit
is it possible that one person some where in the zillions of comments posted actual requirements or lack thereof to get this recipe to drop?....
do you have to be 80-85?.. do you have to be alchy 1-525 or w/e... does archaeology have to be a certain lev?...
I'm sorry I just so so many this and that kinda claims that I'm confused...
regardless I will get my alchy to 85 and maxed alchy and archaeology too.. just wanted 1 comment with some basic facts
Комментарий от
Evilry
The mount is selling for around 40,000g in AH. Comparing it with the low rate of dig site appearance, your chance of getting the
Канопа
, and even lower rate of getting this recipe, plus the horrible cost of crafting the mount. That makes a simple one click buyout of the mount justified to me.
Комментарий от
Androidus
What a shame this requires archaeology. One secondary profession I will not bother with.
Комментарий от
Dlougach
It appears that rate for making Canopic jars has recently been lowered, while drop rate for the recipe from the jar is now close to 100%. At least me and my guildie got the recipe on first jar, but I managed to get 3 tol'vir rares (2 useless + ring) and all NE rares (including doll) before it appeared.
Комментарий от
802920
My wife also got it on her first canopic jar...
Level 85 pally, 525 alchemist..
Woke me up at 6:45 on a Sunday morning, standing at the side of the bed.... "I GOT IT, I GOT IT!"
scared the crap outta me..lol
Комментарий от
802975
Dropped today from my 1st Canopic jar ever. Max. arch and alchemy. Lucky day.
Комментарий от
spidercorpse
Got this with only solving the jar on my first try as well:)
Комментарий от
693338
Finally! I got it tonight on my 25th jar.
I wish i could say it´s been a pleasant adventure but it really took my nerves after farming for such a long time.
Uldum digsites are still very rare even after having the chance to respawn increased in the last patch. The days i spent more time farming i got 1, sometimes 2
Тол'вирские древние письмена
, but most of days i got none.
I crafted 163 Tol´vir fragments in total and here there is the distribution:
- 1
Кольцо маленького императора
that i got after 12 artifacts.
- 1
Подвеска нашествия скарабеев
that i got after 43 artifacts.
- 20
Маленькая оазисная мозаика
.
- 25
Канопа
- 23
Песочный замок
- 17
Эскиз Дворца Пустыни
- 22
Статуэтка кошки с глазами-изумрудами
- 23
Ожерелье со скарабеями из мыльного камня
- 31
Гравированная рукоять ятагана
This means i crafted more than 100 artifacts without getting anything new, which was tiring, and in just the last 4 days i got half of the canopic jars i completed. I had to dig in Kalimdor over and over again to make an Uldum digsite respawn. Mostly i completed Night Elf artifacts which are the more common digsites of Kalimdor. In total i completed 436 Night elf and got all the possible items from this race.
Anyway, when i got the recipe tonight i admit it made me happy but im not sure if its worth the time. I leveled from 80 to 84 by doing only archaeology and digging something practically everyday since the launch. A guildie got it after 14 canopic jars and another friend after only 2.
If you want to go for it, be patient, and who knows ^^
Комментарий от
803829
Well I was after this lil Item since I first found out about it...is a little aggrevateing going back and forth to collect the artifacts...and after about 3 weeks of grinding back n forth....I finaly got it in my second Jar. My Alchemy was maxed out since I was lvl 81 and I was at almost lvl 85 when I found it...now I gotta grind the gold to make it..lol But WOot WOot..I'm finaly Got it.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##ElhonnaDS##DELIM##
Комментарий от
796228
Jar #4 and no recipe for me.
This is rediculous. I understand this recipe needs to be hard to get but to have to grind so many hours just to get a Uldum digsite, then to get a Jar project and hope the jar has the recipe is a little too much.
Комментарий от
SadisticPretzel
For those collecting data, I got my recipe on the 8th jar. Max Alchemy/Archaeology.
Комментарий от
Kemaria
I'm trying to imagine how a certain Cata development meeting must have occurred:
"All right, so alchemists have been complaining that they don't have a special perk for their profession. Ideas, anyone?"
"How about a two-person drake that they can craft? A very expensive two-person drake?"
"Good idea... Let's make it more than just expensive, though. I want them to work for this."
"I know, let's have them find the recipe via archaeology."
"Yeah, it could be inside canopic jars. We could call the recipe 'Vial of the Sands,' because, you know, Uldum's got sand..."
"But not *every* canopic jar... that'd be too easy."
"Right, right, it'll be a rare drop within the canopic jar."
"Ooh, how about this? Let's add a feature to the archaeology program to make sure that players doing archaeology rarely get Uldum digsites. We'll boost the Night Elf digsites instead. That'll drive 'em mad."
"So, to summarize, here's what we've got: They have to wait for random Uldum digsites to appear.... and when they finally DO get Uldum sites, they have to wait for the random canopic jar artifact to appear... we'll make sure they get plenty of other Tol'vir artifacts. When they finally get enough fragments to solve the canopic jar, it'll be completely random if the Vial of the Sands recipe is inside. This way, they'll be slaving over archaeology for months, painstakingly solving jar after jar with no apparent progress towards their goal."
"Oh, that's devious. I like it. Good meeting, folks. Let's implement this!"
Комментарий от
Znuff
Once you clear a digsite, the next can't be the same you just cleared.
...Yes it can.
Комментарий от
812482
I was expecting many many hours of farming for this, but for once I got to be one of the lucky ones. First Jar had it. Max Alchemy/Archeology.
Комментарий от
389663
Found all Tolvir rares, every Tolvir common 2-5 times, 3 janopic jars...still no recipe
Комментарий от
637507
Took me 21 Canopic Jars and 145 Tol'vir solves before I got my recipe, so just a little bit warning before you start chasing this one that it might be a longer grind that you can imagine!
Комментарий от
816441
Talked to a GM today and he confirms that the
Фиал песков
will drop even if you currently do not have alchemy
Комментарий от
Eelang
i just opened my very FIRST Canopic Jar and got the recipe!
Комментарий от
thelaks
I set my hearth to Ashenvale (15 mins with guild perk) and used Potion of Deepholm to get back to SW, and then go direct to Uldum.
My strategy was to go back to Uldum everytime I saw a site appear. Several times the next one appeared there too. I would then just move onto next closest site and check each time. If it was in the North, I would hearth to Ashenvale then potion my way back if one appeared in Uldum again.
I was lucky and got 4 in a row in Uldum one time.
I averaged about a jar per day over 4 days (4-6 hrs per day) and recipe was in 5th jar.
Patience required. Happy digging.
Комментарий от
369935
Just got it today off my 2nd jar. So stoked took me forever to get just 2 jars.
Комментарий от
821833
I
finally
got this recipe. I spent about two months doing nothing but archaeology, playing approximately two hours per day (this time includes leveling archaeology from 0). I found it in my ninth canopic jar. I had completed almost exactly 600 archaeology projects by that point. I'm now only missing the four epic weapons (plus the six new rares added for 4.1).
Комментарий от
172135
Well, the 4.1.0 patch seems to have helped some. Now you are less likely to get a dig site of a race if you have all or most of their artifacts - and since I have pretty much vacuumed Kalimdor for the last 5 months, it means I've got about 99% of what's gettable - except the recipe from Uldum - and now I'm getting Uldum more frequently.
Of course random being random, that may not turn out to be any help in the long run.
Комментарий от
Thortok2000
Thortok's guide to getting a
Фиал песков
!
Песчаниковый дракон
. Two passenger flying mount. You actually transform into a dragon that has nobody sitting on your back, and can fly around that way or offer someone in your group a ride on your back. Don't have to be an Alchemist to become a dragon. Do have to be an Alchemist (and an Archaeologist) to make a vial. Don't have to own one to ride on someone else. Gives an achievement to have it:
Фиал песков
.
(Alchemists Only) Get to (at least) 450
Археология
, and 525
Алхимия
.
(Alchemists Only) Continue to do Archaelogy on the Kalimdor continent, specifically Tol'vir digsites if possible, until you get
Канопа
. Good luck!
(Alchemists Only) Open your
Канопа
and hope it contains a
Рецепт: фиал песков
, and if so, then learn it. Good luck! Repeat Steps 2 and 3 as necessary.
While it is possible for the recipe to appear even if you are not yet at 525 Alchemy, it will only appear to Alchemists of a certain level of skill; so I recommend staying on the safe side and getting to 525 Alchemy first. You'll need it anyway to actually learn the recipe!
Gather 12x
Истинное золото
, 8x
Настой ветров
, 8x
Настой силы титанов
, and 8x
Масло окаменения
. Hopefully you can figure out how to do this on your own.
Save up 29000 gold or the following items:
Отделанная пирием кристаллиновая колба
will cost 5000 gold. 8x
Пески времени
will cost 3000 gold each for a total of 24000 gold. These mats can only be bought from
Ясмин
in the far northwest of Uldum. Finding any of these mats for cheaper than the listed price on the Auction House is unlikely,
but possible
*, so make sure you check because it could save you money. Obviously, don't buy them for more than the listed price. Duh.
The mats from Steps 4 and 5 will be used to make the vial. If you are not an Alchemist, you will need to find one that has completed Step 3 and you'll have to give them the mats to make it.**
*The mats in Step 5 are bought from a vendor so the guild perk
can be used for a discount. No other forms of discounts are currently known. If you do not have this perk, you can check the Auction House to see if someone who does is selling at a discount. Since it could potentially save you money, why not check?
**
Make sure you protect yourself! If you get scammed, GM's can and
will
take action to get your gold and/or mats back, just open a ticket. In order for them to confirm it was a scam, make sure the entire transaction is negotiated using in-game text chat so the GM can read the chat log and confirm that you have been scammed.
(Hopefully this won't happen anyway, but 29k+ in mats is a respectable chunk of money, so make sure to cover your bases.) This 'scam protection' is provided for all forms of scams, including the 'give you the mats to make an item and you keep them and give me nothing' scam, as scamming is against the ToS!
I recommend, for Alchemists making this for yourself, after you make your first one, check your realm to see if there's anyone willing to buy this for extremely high prices (like, 60k or higher, perhaps even 80k). If you get enough profit, make another one and attempt to sell it. Keep going until you don't get any buyers for awhile, making and selling one by one, and then if you go a long time and can't sell your current one for a profit, THEN learn it yourself.
Комментарий от
merricklb
First of all, please note that you HAVE to have alchemy to have this drop from a canopic jar which is from farming tol'vir dig sites. So you need max archeology and have to have alchemy of any skill from what i've seen. The jar drops at least once for every 10 artifects from expiriance and it takes 3 + jar drops to get the recipe. I have never gone passed 15 jars without it dropping. The mats for the actual potion are very expensive and if you can con someone to buy it for 10k lmao you're either very smart or the dude is very stupid.
Комментарий от
Sixpac
On May 16, 2011 Blizzard said in "Ask The Devs #7 - Professions":
"... we plan to add daily quests , a deeper story, additional skill gains, and
the flexibility to focus on a specific race
."
The latter should allow for a better chance on this recipe in the future if you focus on the tol'vir.
Комментарий от
756330
Finally found it, I also have Tyrande's Favorite doll to show for all the silly Night Elf fragments and have almost completed archaeology as I took a detour through Northrend and Outland to complete the rares for Orc, Draenei, Nerubian and Vrykul. I have various painting and writing projects so I do these while flying in windowed mode, it makes it easier.
1x Ring of the Boy Emperor (R)
1X Pendant of the Scarab Storm (R)
3x Tiny Oasis Mosaic
2x Castle of Sand
3x Cat Statue With Emerald Eyes
3x Sketch of a Desert Palace
5x Canopic Jar
2x Engraved Scimitar Hilt
Комментарий от
Uldorath
It took me 20 canopic jars before i got it, reading all the comments of people who got it in less than 10 makes me cry >.<
To anyone who cares it was my 98th tolvir common solve.
Комментарий от
31082
148 Tol'vir items... 18 of 20 rares (all found on Kalimdor)... 22 canopic jars and still no recipe :(
Комментарий от
ppg0270
I wished the recipe was BoA because my main just got this and he isn't an alchemist. What a waste.
Комментарий от
768705
If you've gotten this far in the comments and are still reading, here are some interesting thoughts:
According to
this thread
, the recipe has approximately a 10% drop chance.
By the
multiplicative property of probability
, each time you open a jar you can consider the probability of not receiving the recipe as 0.9^
n
, where
n
is the number of jars you've opened and starts incrementing at 1.
Thus the probability of not getting the recipe from 1 jar is 0.9^1 = 90%
The probability of not getting the recipe from 2 jars is 0.9^2 = 81%
etc.
Using this property, assuming that getting the jar is a totally random event (one trial does not effect the other), and across hundreds of thousands of people trying for it:
0.9^7 = 47%, so we would expect about 50% of people to receive the recipe in 7 jars or less.
0.9^13 = 25%, 75% of people in 13 jars or less.
0.9^22 = 9.8%, 90% in 22 jars or less.
0.9^29 = 4.7%, 95% in 29 jars or less.
And if you get to 43 jars you'll be pushed into the 1st percentile. If you have enough tenacity to get this far and still be going after the recipe I recommend you immediately stop trying and never go to Vegas.
Thought this was a neat little way to create some milestones. I'm thinking that if I get to 29 I'll stop. Having been schooled in science the 5th percentile is all the stubbornness I think I can muster. Now if statistics would just stop abusing me by forcing me to go three days at a time without a single jar showing up as my next project, I'll be a much happier person.
Комментарий от
Maiqua
Finally got this from my 21st jar with 144 tol'vir artifacts solved. This took about four months although I stopped few weeks before 4.1 and waited for the promised digsite spawn change. I also leveled alts during this project so I didn't dig 24/7 or anything...
If someone asked for advice I'd tell them not to start digging. The mount is not worth it. Find someone else with the recipe and have them craft it for you before you become so obsessed that you can't stop.
But if you consider yourself lucky and try to go after the recipe I'd suggest that you watch some tv series or listen podcasts while digging to distract you from the boredom.
Комментарий от
leila87
117 tol'vir projects done, 18 of them jars and still nothing.
Комментарий от
Ryucchi
This should be BoA so we can mail it to our character that has alchemy.
Комментарий от
Missrihanna
really a waist of your life to get this item after farming for time and time i can say the change to get this is so low that your mostly screwed.
Комментарий от
garvernt
why is't there an easier way
Комментарий от
spacesuit
38 jars solves and counting. When should I give up?
Комментарий от
836966
Just got it from my second jar, alchemy 504, archaeology 525
Комментарий от
784189
The Goblin Discount does not work for the Vendoritems anymore from now on. Only the 10% Guildperk works now and makes the lowest price to be 26'100 Gold.
Комментарий от
836230
First Jar, 510 alch 525 arch! Hell yeah!
Комментарий от
838431
I quit the game because of the frustration I went through trying to get this damn vial when Cataclysm first came out. I spend weeks leveling my Alchemist to the max archaeology, only to go through about 15 jars and not get the damn recipe. I guess I just got turned off because I spent ALL my time focusing on getting the recipe and not doing other things in game. That was last year, and now I am going to play again. This time I will space out my hunting for the recipe with other in game things I enjoy until I get it. Hopefully it will be worth it!
Комментарий от
838900
Just got the recipe from my second jar
Комментарий от
TaKeN
I have not received this in 16 opens - still trying....
Комментарий от
wowaddict123
Got recipe out of the 2nd canopic jar I opened.
Комментарий от
TaKeN
Received this in 26 opens!
Комментарий от
aniblaze
Reading all of the messages makes me feel kind of bad for wanting to share this but I got the Recipe: Vial of the Sands after opening my second Canopic Jar... Obviously I was ecstatic, only to bump against the next obstacle: the costs to make the damn vial. All in all it costs me roughly 36K gold to make! I'm planning on making one, selling it for 50K, and then make one for myself using the money I made. That way I'm not completely poor once I obtain this beast. Fortunately these mounts are in very, very limited supply on my server. Have been checking the AH and so far there hasn't been one in the AH for the past week.
Комментарий от
Hammlid
For anyone collating stats.... found one in my 7th Canopic Jar...and next Tol'Vir artefact is another jar!
To get to this stage I have solved 43 Tol'vir artefacts and suffered through solving 136 Night Elf as a by-product. I am still trying to get the Crawling Claw but the last day and a half grinding has returned zero rares from Kalimdor (I have 8 purple and 1 blue left to solve in total, including 1 Night Elf and 2 Tol'vir)
Комментарий от
Bloodisme
Began to lose patience here the worst recipe drop ever i do archaeology now almost 5 months what that to do to make it drop
Комментарий от
857425
14th Jar. And it was a pain to get this Jar, arround 15 Tol'vir solved just for this one to pop up! In some strange way i got a feeling before that just this Canopic Jar would have the recipe and it did! I was putting on one of my favourite track on Spotify in the same moment when i opened it, i saw the purple item and did a /bow
Комментарий от
857721
Just looted it from 6th Jar, after at least 60 total hours of farming over the past month and a half. Looking forward to making.
Комментарий от
858121
4th Canopic Jar
2 tolvir Rares - Ring of Boy Emperor and Pendant of Scarab storm.
23 tolvir commons
I got 2 back to back canopic jars, 3 and 4.
BIG TIP - Dont go to uldum for one digsite, wait to get 2, then go to uldum to get both. Then clear all 4 kalimidor dig sites, then wait for 2 digsites in uldum again. Repeat.
Комментарий от
Bhainskieyes
This dropped for me in my 8th jar after 111 Tol'vir solves which included all the rares except that mount. Don't loose hope! You'll get it :D
Комментарий от
845597
Just got this recipe on my first canopic jar (4th Tol'Vir solved).
off topic: While digging I found the camel figurine statue and port me to Feralas and got the camel mount.
What a day!
So happy! now back to farming mats...! lol
Комментарий от
859086
Can you carry a low level buddy with this mount O.o? I mean, if a friends of yours have this dragon and you are lvl 1 you will level 10000000% faster
Комментарий от
859385
i went thru 6 jars and about 5months off/on searching and still nothing...this is getting a little boring...too bad there is no achivement for frequent miles...i guess good thing is that i got my World Explorer achiv while doing arch...still i want it!
Комментарий от
vasco90
got the recipe at 16th jar!
Комментарий от
WorgN6
They'd have to pay me 50k and make this proc transmute duplicates to level archaeology.
Комментарий от
Varemort
Im confused, do u get the canopic jars from archaeology like it says in the top description or from alchemy...?
Комментарий от
dommus
I got mine on 15th jar.
Have both 525 alc and arch.
Good luck to the rest.
Комментарий от
Mazovoid
A rare drop within a rare drop, it seems. Canopic jars can be hard to come by.
Комментарий от
815690
Just got this after 2 weeks of farming, 9 canopic jars. Phew.
Azelphur @ Khadgar-EU :)
Комментарий от
irishbloke
I Finally got this today after what seemed an endless lost cause. I had previously only got 1 Canope Jar and since then had nothing but other Common Artifacts id almost given up until only my 2nd Canope Jar appeared and there it was inside:)
And guess what popped up after getting the drop? Yeah only my 3rd Canope Jar lol
Was weird i kept getting keystones while digging in uldar and i thought this was strange and though "it might be inside this one" lol.
Glad that grind is over.
Along the way i got the BOA ring from uldum and endless Night Elf vanity items.
Комментарий от
sTyLnK
I got over 50 of those canopic jars when I was farming the bug mount on my main some months back. Yes, 50+. What sucks is my main is a mount/pet collector. I don't have alchemy on them, but an alt does. So, now I have to try and get the plans. I'm up to a very meager 4 jars so far. Oh how I WISH I had my 50+ jars from before.
They should have made the plans available to anyone, but make it bind on account, so you could send it to any of your characters that have alchemy. I don't see a problem with that. I suppose it would make it less rare, but still it would be only for you right? And there still wouldn't be many in the AH, because it's too expensive to make and not very profitable.
Комментарий от
878089
Just been to Yasmin. The Bartering discount offered to level 24 guild members does have an effect on the price. 10% Off all vendors
Комментарий от
Eyvindar
I did the grind from 80-85 (on my mage/alchemist) almost entirely on archaeology in hopes of getting this recipe. Had to go through a number of uldum artifacts, including two rares before even getting a canopic jar, but I got the recipe from the first one I opened. :)
Already had enough money saved so I was able to make the mount today. Just had to farm some more volatile lives to make the flasks required. The whole reason I leveled archaeology was because a friend said they wanted this mount, so of course I gave them the mount after I made it. :)
Good luck to all others trying to get this.!
Комментарий от
daasca
I just got this recipe the other day. It was my second jar. I was 525 archaeology and 525 alchemist when the recipe dropped. Good luck everyone! It is definitely going to show up eventually.
Комментарий от
296243
17th jar, no recipe. I curse myself I am too stubborn to stop...
Edit: 21st jar and still no recipe
Edit2: 23rd jar contained the recipe. Had a break due to study !@#$, came back and found it in the 2nd one I solved. It's cool, but totally not worth farming. You will do better just buying the Vial itself.
Комментарий от
894194
Just got mine, solved 35 jar's and it was ofc. in the last one :P
Комментарий от
897072
Do you have to be an alchemist in order for the recipe to drop from a jar? I'd hate to drop a profession after 5 yrs unless i have that recipe in my greedy little hands first heh. I cant seem to get a definite answer from here on wowhead or in-game...I got two different answers from two different GM's....one even said "well its supposed to be a mysterious item, and figuring it out is part of the fun!" ...almost sent me into an all caps rage haha
Anyone out there ever gotten the drop without being an alchemist first?
Комментарий от
897966
I just got this one.
I get the canoptic jar in archaeology when i had LW/skinning.
But changed my professions when i saw my archaeology reward, to alchemy and JC.
And i got the recepie on my first canoptic jar.
So if loot is decided on the jar when it shows up in archaeology, it can contain the recepie even if you don't have alchemy. You probably just woun't be able to see it. Unless you change a profession to alchemy.
Комментарий от
903118
Over 200 artifacts solved in Kalimdor. Solved 47 relics in Uldum, 3 rares and 4 Canopic jars. Every jar contained mumified organs. Getting tired of Arch.
Комментарий от
519084
wholy this is time consuming... 17 jars now and still at it :-( What is droprate? 3-5% is the rumors, but anyone got any more exact droprate?
Комментарий от
Litesung
Breaking News: I was testing Archaeology in 4.3 PTR (Build 14995) on a non-alchemist and came across a canopic jar with this recipe. Confirmed after 9 canopic jars, and many many tol'vir solves.
The recipe can drop for a non-alchemist, but is not learnable unless you have the appropriate Alchemy level. You'll have to drop a profession to learn alchemy and level it before you can use the recipe.
Remember, this happened on the 4.3 PTR (Build 14995). I have no idea if the recipe will drop currently on live realms, or in 4.3 live for no n-alchemists.
Комментарий от
Hourglass
Not sure if this has been posted before or not...admittedly I have not read all 250+ comments here.
You
can
get this Recipe more than once.
I got it on my 21st Jar earlier in the year. Made my Vial mount. Not long after, I dropped Alchemy to take up Engineering (just far enough to get the two mounts), then dropped it and went back to Alchemy. Naturally this caused me to lose the Vial recipe from my spellbook.
Was out chasing the hand pet today and got another Jar. I had gotten a few since my profession swap and hadn't gotten another Recipe, so I didn't think anything of it.
Today's Jar, however, did contain the Recipe, and I was able to learn it again.
Just thought I would toss this bit of info out there in case anyone was wondering.
Комментарий от
interloper
I really think this recipe must be at least BoA because I cba to farm it on my alchemy alt.
Комментарий от
Eighjan
Hmmm... how does this work if my Warrior main is 525 Archaeologist & my Mage (525 Alchemist) isn't doing Archaeology...?
Do I send all
Канопа
to my Mage so that if the Formula IS in one he gets it, rather than risking losing it to my non-Alchemist Warrior...?[(##RESPBREAK##)2##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##
Комментарий от
914535
It took me 14 canopic jars to finally get this. And now I AM a dragon.... :P
Комментарий от
KatakaVal
Ok so there are lots of comments but what i am wondering is . Is the vial a one of thing , so basically - it's consumed the toon turns into the dragon - but once the toon turns back you need another vial . OR does the option of transforming by clicking a icon in the mount page .
Комментарий от
935262
I have been farming this recipe for 5 months now. I have digged up about 40 canopic jars. I have still not received the recipe. I even open up a ticket because I should have at least got it by now. The GM told me that is random and to keep trying.
It is definitely not worth the time invested. I put way too much into it to stop now. I will keep farming till I have enough gold to buy it. Good luck to everyone else. I feel for you.
Комментарий от
831928
This thing hates me, just doesn't wanna drop. I probably get 35K to buy it before this recipe drops
Комментарий от
673525
29 canopic jars still no recipe
Комментарий от
939043
Got my first Canopic Jar today and got the recipe:) Maybe my luck is turning around.
Комментарий от
IceWolfDK
Found Recipe: Vial of the Sands today, 6th canopic jar after i took up Alchemy. Had found 11 jars before the proffession change. It was one of the reasons for changing, just hurt with the number of jars i found without being able to get a rare recipe.
RNG is smiling on me, found Zin'rohk yesterday. Though having no use for it, being a rogue.
Комментарий от
cloud123
Just looted this recipe last night (Jan/12.) Thought I'd offer what I learned. 310% flying was well worth it. It took me about 14 hours to go from arch 1 to 450, about 2 hours to max out. Solved 203 items, got the recipe in 4th canopic jar. Goblin discount definitely gone for Yasmin's mats. Took almost 40 hours from 450 when I started getting tol'vir items to getting the recipe. Some said that it was good to go immediately to Uldum sites, while others liked to clear out the rest, to me, once I was done leveling the skill, the only ones I did were those close to Uldum and only hearthed northward when none were popping up. Those I left, in my mind, blocked them and made Tol'vir more likely. It is possible to get the tol'vir heiroglyphs and pass them from one character to another. They are not soul bound. They do sell on my server but not for anything I'd spend. I have one left, tempted to try. More than 3/4 of my items were Nelf, but I did see fewer of their sites once I had 16 commons and 8 rares. Don't know how many exactly there are. But the resultant void was filled with both Tol'vir and fossil, since all fossil Items I wanted were already solved, that was still kind of annoying. I almost didn't even try this, considering the negative comments, and while it was a grind, and felt like doing handsprings once I got the recipe and didn't have to use that pick axe any more, I think, if you want this mount, don't let what others say discourage you.
Комментарий от
achieva15
i am wondering how much this recipe is selling for at the auction houses?
Комментарий от
achieva15
i tried to get this recipe using my hunter with maxed out enchanting and skinning professions not realizing that only alchemy can get it (bop). i must have searched for 2 full weeks.
finally leveled up my alchemy on an alt and got the recipe on the first canopic jar i opened. boy!..what a waste of time on my hunter altho i made about 6000 gold doing archeology.
Комментарий от
MajorMage
Getting this recipe is the ONLY reason I'm leveling Archaeology. I bought my Vial of the Sands for 38K, and the thought of making some of that back is enough to keep me going.
Комментарий от
943517
22x Canopic Jars and no recipe :( . I got alchemy max skill 525 . What i did wrong?
Комментарий от
Reboot
Do not give up on this. I consider myself very fortunate on this one. Got the recipe on my 1st jar! So it is there and it will drop. Have to add also just in case. You must be an Alchemist to get the recipe.
Good luck to all.
Boot
Комментарий от
947894
Even though it's time consuming, I think it is worth the while looking for this recipe, especially since the vial itself in my realm costs around 85k on AH. Dunno bout y'all but I find that way overpriced considering what you get.
Am not really looking for it to get the dragon. Just wanna screw up the overprice by selling it cheaper >:)
edit:
as I said... think it's worth the while looking for the recipe...
I looked for about 2 weeks and have collected about 10 or 11
Канопа
... think it's been fun actually, cause I had lots of movies playing while searching
Комментарий от
lilfern
Is it worth it? How Long does the Recipe last once made? That is what has me going HMMM
Комментарий от
Ialn
Got this recipe after 7 Canopic Jars
pic, speedyshare.com/file/9kBQW/download/vial-of-the-sands.jpg
Комментарий от
Elorivan
Worth the grind?
Yes
Does it feel worth it while grinding?
No
Комментарий от
Ravithor
on my 3rd jar that I saw when I was Lving my Archaeology talk about lucky days I cant wait to get all the mats together
Комментарий от
hesperiarogue
I got mine today! It took about 2 months and it was my 2nd jar made.
Комментарий от
961145
If you plan on selling this, is it unfair to make people pay for the mats + a 1-2k tip? Please let me know, cuz I don't wanna seem like a jerk. Thank you.
Комментарий от
srebabygirl
It is true in order to get this recipe you must have 450 archaeology in order to get the digsite in Uldum. Thankfully for me I got the recipe on my first canopic jar which was my 2nd artifact in Uldum with an archaeology level of 510. I did archaeology off and on for 3 weeks to get my archaeology up til I got the jar and recipe. I will tell you farming and getting the mats is worse than leveling your archaeology, if you plan to make everything yourself. If exaulted in Uldum you can get the sands of time for 2.7k each from Yasmin and the Pyrium vial for 4.5k from Yasmin. Good luck fellow alchemists, it sure is a journey for this mount.
Комментарий от
Hammatime
Just got this of a Canopic Jar(My 4th one). So I'd like to share some information I gathered during this quest to acquire the recipe. I contacted a GM about it to know if I had to have 525 alchemy or what not.
Me:
Hi, I'm wondering if Vial of Sands recipe drops if you don't have alchemy? Also if it doesn't would lvl 1 alchemy be sufficient?
GM:
Greetings Drottendauwg,
first of all, apologies for the long wait - the last patch is still keeping us fairly busy.
You do need to have Alchemy in order to get the recipe to drop at all. The question of minium level, however, is something we do not disclose as the community hast to figure precise drop mechanics our for itself. Generally it is true though that one does not need a maxed Alchemy skill in order to obtain the recipe (but there is a minimum).
In the end you need 525 skill to use the recipe anyways so bringing Alchemy up before opening the Canopic Jars can't hurt. ;)
Should you have further questions or concerns, do not hesitate to get in touch with us.
So he confirmed that you
need
Alchemy in order for it to drop. And that there is a minimum level of Alchemy needed.
Anyways I skilled 525 alchemy before I started. And one thing I noticed when at 525 archaelogy and after a long time after getting Night Elf artifacts and what not is that Tol'vir where spawning much more frequently and Night Elf much less and this I'm sure of.
Hope this helps out in some way those who want the recipe.
//Good luck, Drottendauwg@Zenedar
Комментарий от
Calydor
Well, my mother got this today.
On her very first Tol'Vir project.
Level 82 druid, 480->485 Archaelogy skill when she made the Canopic Jar and opened it. Obviously there's no minimum level to get it other than being able to get Tol'Vir dig sites.
Now if you'll excuse me, my DK who leveled from 80 to 85 exclusively on archaeology XP still needs to farm his. >.<
Комментарий от
reggiejames
i finally acquired this recipe after completing:
9 cat statue with emerald eyes
12 soap stone
13 engraved scimitar
13 castle of sand
16 tiny oasis mosaic
12 canopic jar
11 sketch of a desert palace
Комментарий от
MomBun
After much hair-pulling, whining, computer kicking, (and a temper tantrum or two), I finally got the recipe and squealed so loudly, my husband's ears are still ringing (according to HIM, anyways). It was a lot of work, and pretty time consuming with the flying everywhere. (I watched tv& movies on my iPad). Fortunately, I was home sick for awhile and had some time on my hands.
I found the recipe in my 5th canopic jar. The other Tol'vir artifacts completed include:
1 ring of the boy emperor (rare)
1 pendant of scarab storm (rare)
4 tiny mosaic
1 castle of sand
6 engraved scimitar hilt
11 soapstone Scarborough necklace
6 cat statue with emerald eyes
3 sketch of a desert palace.
Absolutely worth it. And passengers can jump off you in mid flight and parachute in places! Awesome mount, way too much fun. And now Mommy can fly the kids around to help them level. For a fee, of course. :)
Комментарий от
924351
Took 3 days to level my archaeology, with a skill of 480/525 I open my first canopic jar, and there it is the Vial of the sands recipe. Chuffed to bits :)
It was my first Tol'vir artifact also!
Комментарий от
980824
i have heard of so many people trying soooooo many times with the canopic jar i got my 1st just got some organs, 2nd more organs. I got another and opened it and inside i found the Recipe:Vial of Sands. it was sick i didnt think it could take soo long i thot my drop was a reg drop but it wasnt it was pretty sick
Комментарий от
Dedmeett
I just made a Wowhead account just to say: After hundreds of commons(lost count after 300) and 21 Canoptic jars...I still don't have the recipe. This game hates me.
And yes, I'm and Alchemist, maxed out for couple months now
*edit- I just realized I should update this. I finally got this on my 23rd jar. I had enough materials saved to make another for myself, after I sold the first one, yay me!
Комментарий от
Abhorsen19
26th jar and 61k gold spent on Tol'vir Hieroglyphic and still no recipe. I am getting tired of traveling. Thank god for Moonmeander's Hon streaming to keep me entertained.
So far:
3 rares
&
27 cat statue with emerald eyes
27 soap stone
32 engraved scimitar
30 castle of sand
25 tiny oasis mosaic
26 canopic jar
21 sketch of a desert palace
and 651 total projects completed.
edit:
819
th (
28
th jar) project was my lucky recipe. Thank god no more grinding.
Комментарий от
849384
got the recipe in my 7th Canopic Jar. It was my 30th Tol'Vir solve. Incidentally I had 3 Tol'vir rares (scarab pendant, scimitar of sirocco, ring of boy emperor) within my first