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Комментарий от
Arhimage
наверное это всё таки энхо\комбат рого тринька имхо
Комментарий от
thester
Может кто нибуть знающий английский удосужится перевести коменты с англ форума... уверен многие будут благодарны)
Комментарий от
358791
Атакуя в ближнем бою, вы можете накопить 1 искру злобы. При накоплении 7 искр вы выплескиваете свою ярость, мгновенно атакуя противника и нанося ему 50% урона от одного из носимых оружий.
Как-то так..
И в героическом режиме сложности
Комментарий от
tranc
как оно для ретри пала?
на элитистах написано в бис
в англ комментах
This trinket procs poisons and Seal (for Ret). Also it counts as a melee attack, so will help Berserking uptime.
upd. что нет ни 1 ретрика на ру рилмах с этой триней?)
upd2.кароче взял я эту триньку
по рекаунту - нанесенный дмг от "несдерживаемый гнев" ~3.4% - 3.9%
hit 1200-1600
crit 2400-3500
+ она нужна чтобы одеть 4 куска т10 (перчи с цлк 25 на хаст)
Комментарий от
339444
Хороший вопрос, Для каво всетаки эта тринка?
Комментарий от
laert
а на ферал дру никто не пробовал ее напялить? просто при нынешних раскладах хардкап арп обычно набирается ценой недокапа метки. А брать тринку с юзом на cкорость атаки друлю как-то не айс. По идее же должно быть нормально. Скорость атаки-удар в секунду, но в руках при этом пушка со средним уроном 935,5(копье гресира). Я канешн даже не надеюсь, что она с дотов прокает, но в принципе и так должно быть весьма и весьма весело.
Комментарий от
511510
скажите, как эта тринька на дк?
прокает ли от "некроза" и "закаленного в крови клинка"?
Комментарий от
506304
очень хороший тринк для ретри, дпс вырос значительно.
Роршэч ПБ
Комментарий от
AngelDead
Провел несколько тестов по количеству проков
Как видно по по рекаунту искры не прокают с инстант ядов
но при этом возможно прокают с дедли но не понятно как
Я мути рога
Белые атаки с двух дагеров со скоростью 1.4/1.4
: Recount - Ангелдеад - Атаки
: 1. Атака ближнего боя 1501 850313 (97%)
: 2. Несдерживаемый гнев 93 25257 (3%) = 93*8+5(остались висеть на чаре)= 749 искр
Белые атаки с двух дагеров со скоростью 1.4/1.4 +инст/инст
: Recount - Ангелдеад - Атаки
: 1. Атака ближнего боя 1501 870845 (62%)
: 2. Быстродействующий яд IX 471 504492 (36%)
: 3. Несдерживаемый гнев 93 26282 (2%) = 93*8+6(остались вистеть на чаре)= 750 искр
Белые атаки с двух дагеров со скоростью 1.8/1.4 +инст/дедли
: Recount - Ангелдеад - Атаки
: 1. Атака ближнего боя 1502 1656521 (55%)
: 2. Быстродействующий яд IX 753 872825 (29%)
: 3. Смертельный яд IX (УзВ) 297 399709 (13%)
: 4. Несдерживаемый гнев 99 56789 (2%) = 99*8=792 искр
PS:
Искра прокает с
Парализающего удара
Искра прокает с
Рваная рана
с самого удара, но не с тиков
Рваной раны
Искра прокает с
Веер клинков
по сколько у
Веера
атака идет с 2 пух то и прокнуть может с 1 веера 2 искры
Искра прокает с
Расправа
по сколько атака с
Расправы
идет с 2 пух то и прокнуть может с 1 расправы 2 искры
Искра прокает с
Гаррота
с самого удара, но не стиков
Гарроты
Искра прокает с
Подлый трюк
как не странно, но Да, прокает!
Искра
не
прокает с
Ложный выпад
Искра прокает с
Внезапный удар
Искра прокает с
Ошеломление
да да да
Искра прокает с
Пинок
угу
Искра прокает с
Долой оружие
Искра
не
прокает с
Смертельный бросок
оно и понятно, рейндж атака
Искра не прокает с
Мясорубка
Искра прокает с
Отравляющий укол
Искра прокает с
Удар в спину
Искра прокает с
Коварный удар
Комментарий от
602940
+++ AngelDead.
я тоже мути рога.
взял себе эту триню, потому что ходили слухи что она одна из топовых для роги.
На деле не совсем так оказалось.
сколько бы дамага не наносил (по боссам или по кукле) - дамага от искр было не больше 4% (из 4 лямов по боссу, 90к дамага было от искр).
то есть смысла в трине ваааще нету, только если у вас нету капа меткости)
на мой взгляд Клыкастый Череп лучше!...
ПыСы: Очень большие надежды были на триню эту........Разочаровала!
Комментарий от
498679
Скажите пожалуйста, подходит ли она для дк и если да, то для какого спека лучше всего?
Комментарий от
359965
возник вопрос, как эта тринька будет себя вести в катаклизме, как я понял, величина прока зависит от урона оружия - те чем выше урон оружия тем сильнее прок, и если сейчас он составляет до 4% от суммарного урона, то и на 85 уровне, наверное, должен работать на эти же 4%, так так урон от оружия возрастет соответственно?.. или я не прав, кто разбирается в теории подскажите...
Комментарий от
561134
+1 Ретрик который взял триньку.
Доволен проками (очень уж часто) + хит, который оказался очень кстати.
Комментарий от
639808
а не подскажеье есть смысл одеть ее фури вару?
Комментарий от
DisciplesGold
Выбил триню эту, сам мутирога, побил в ней одного босса и скажу вам ребят уг, стат нафиг ненужный эта меткость... а баф... ну дает мне раз в 6-8 секунд от 600 до 1100урона. Мне вообще не понравилась, есть триньки гораздо лучше этой.
Комментарий от
866504
cкажет кто про комборогу с этой триней?
Комментарий от
MaddRusKiller
Неплохая тринька для вара и дк
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Комментарий от
Ansi
Dropped by
Professor Putricide
in
Icecrown Citadel 25
.
Комментарий от
235468
Aww cute, I want one :>
I'll make this guy my little avatar of war :D
Комментарий от
147759
Anyone else thinks "one of your melee weapons" sounds rather vague? I wonder if it could use that polearm I have in my bank somewhere...
Комментарий от
500055
Any news on whether the extra attack can proc poisons for rogues? If so, this has the potential to be very VERY good for mutilate.
While the standard melee hit from the proc would be affected by the 50% penalty, the poison proc would not.
Effectively, you would be getting an extra chance at a poison proc every 8 swings (this is probably an oversimplification).
There would need to be some research on what poison proc chance the extra swing uses, but whatever formula is used, I would imagine it would be good.
As instant poison makes up a very large portion of a mutilate rogue's damage, if this is truly as good as an "extra chance to proc poison every 8 swings", then you are looking at a 1/8th's increase in instant poison damage, which needless to say, is huge.
Edit: I just noticed the tooltip says, "your melee attacks have a CHANCE to". This changes the math slightly, but as long as the chance is constant per swing, this should still be quite good.
Edit 2: To the response that says the proc rate on this is normalized to PPM: don't be too sure. For this particular item, PPM does not make sense. If it were PPM, then a slow attacker would be proc'ing this just as much as a fast attacker. In this case, the slower attacker would be getting the actual extra attack just as often as well. However, the slower attacker's extra attack would be for much greater damage.
In short, this item already accounts for weapon speed by making the extra attack scale with your weapon damage. There is no reason for it to be normalized via PPM. If it is the case that this is PPM, then it is heavily bias towards slower weapons. I doubt this.
Комментарий от
Mihir
http://elitistjerks.com/f81/t37462-warrior_dps_calculation_spreadsheet/#post987929
... 45% proc rate off hits, has yellow hit table but cannot use impale, and has a 50/50 chance to get either a MH or an OH proc.
Комментарий от
hashmel
Would this not be superior for a cat seeing as it's a chance per hit rather than ppm and cats have the fastest attack speed in the game not to mention wielding a 2 hander that would have a damage range of 800~1,300? (about 1.5 times that of a rogue's MH and 2.5 times their OH)
Комментарий от
522947
It may be Good for Mutilate but vs it being in a Rets hands, it's Laughable.. This is by far and a way period the BIS trinket for a Ret vs a Rogue. Ej's Shows a Rogue dps increase of roughtly in the 424dps range and in a Rets in the 1000+ dps range.
http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t68951-retribution_updated_3_3_a/p69/#post1520870
Комментарий от
523429
BiS for retri. Why? Because extra attack procs Seal and also because retri stacks haste, unlike most of other dual wielders, which helps this proc more. And while the mele hit is penalized with 50%, Seal dmg isn’t. At this moment Rightues Vengance dot, SoV, Art of War proc the mote. Having two pieces of t10, which increase the ratio of mele strikes in the dmg list since divine storm is mele strike, lots of passive haste and big top weapon dmg for big extra hits increases retri dmg for over 1k, on trash even more. That’s way over any other class/spec increase.
Комментарий от
524481
Does anybody have any idea if this trinket would work or how it would work for a feral druid? I've read some stuff saying that it could be great for a druid, or wouldn't work. The reason I'm wondering is because a cat's attacks don't scale off weapon speed, and is a flat 1.00 second speed without any haste. Because of that, and when it does proc, would it hit for 50% of a druid's normal melee attack, or one worth 50% of their weapon damage?
Комментарий от
eDGe87
Copy paste from a post on mmo-champ i hope will help you guys using this.
Last night I ran ~2 hours worth of testing on target dummies with this trinket. I also brought along a rogue from the guild and let him use it prior to the trinket becoming bound to me.
As others have said, TAJ requires you to be standing right on top of the target of the proc (less than 2 yds). While running tests, I found that many of our abilities can proc a mote. Judgement, DS, CS, auto, and seal damage can all grant a mote.
For AoE testing, I switched from single targeting the boss dummy to attacking the lvl 60 dummies with DS/SoComm. I found that a single DS with SoComm active can provide many motes in one single attack. With a 4stack of motes and hitting DS, I watched as my stack dropped after hitting 8 motes, then rebuilt back up to 2. Many times I saw single DS/SoComm attacks provide anywhere from 3-6 motes while standing in the middle of the 4 lvl 60 dummies.
The proc: It seems that the proc is directed at the target that granted you the 8th mote. While attacking those lowbie aoe dummies, I found that I was not getting the proc once I hit an 8 stack. The stack would reset and no damage proc went off regardless of how close I was standing to my primary target. In this case with 4 targets, you only proc the damage every ~3 stacks because it will likely gain the 8th mote from one of your splash damage targets.
I made one other observation that I found to be pretty cool. When auto-attacking the boss level dummy with Seal of Corruption active, I watched as the TAJ procs actually added Seal of Corruption damage. I could have expected this after hearing that the TAJ proc can also proc poisons for rogues.
The proc damage obviously varies based on your gear. For my tests, the proc damage was 1300-1700 non-crit and 2500-3700 crit. I ran numerous tests and didn't take any screens of them. Because so many abilities can proc a mote, my recount log showed the number of anger procs was very high in comparison to my melee attacks. Going all out with all damage attacks for a total of 200 melee attacks, I gained 119 damage procs from this trinket. So many different attacks contribute to this proc that it is dealing damage on basically every other auto-attack.
In single target testing, the proc comprised of 3.4% of my total damage. For my mutilate rogue guildmate, the proc was 1.3% of his damage. This doesn't factor in the bonus seal damage delivered from the proc or the poison procs for the rogue. His proc damage was 300-400 non-crit and 700-800 crit.
For clarification when i referenced the proc, I was referring to the damage dealing aspect of this trinket. For this post proc=/=gaining a mote.
Комментарий от
526099
Hi I got a question when the trinket proc what is the visual effect I mean do you see for example a little abomination that hit the target or is there just no effects thanks.
Комментарий от
526591
Does this trinket get motes off
Bryntroll, The Bone Arbiter
procs?
Комментарий от
504788
Motes of Anger can only be gained from white/yellow attacks now (no more poison+berserking procs).
The nerf makes it only slightly superior to Whispering Fanged Skull for Assassination Rogues.
Комментарий от
531486
http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t68951-retribution_updated_3_3_a/#Stats
look how far down that list haste is for us. If you are gemming anything BUT 20 str gems of 10 crit/10 str gems, you need to find another class/spec to play. kkthnxbai. but yeah, i'm still not convinced this trinket is better than Death's Choice/Whispering Fanged Skull combo... need to look at some more posts/math for it.
Комментарий от
25717
I am an Enhance shaman,and i just got , and it only proc in 0~3 yards :(
I made a movie as below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N9M6AW1f1c
BZ:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22748956661&sid=1
Комментарий от
316082
Any feral testing done on this?
Комментарий от
357855
Am I the only person who wants a Tiny Abomination to spawn after 7 Motes of Anger, how..... cute?
Комментарий от
Spotnick
Clearly best-in-slot trinket for retribution paladins. This is about 3.5% to 4% of your overall damage. Procs off seals, so you get tons of motes.
Комментарий от
dragonlordged
Wondering if any enh shaman's done a live test with this to determine if it procs off of SS, WW, or LL as well as melee attacks and whether it procs WW and MW itself (my guess is it would).
Комментарий от
495744
for all u ferals wondering if it something 2 have or not... DONT it only acc to RAWR a stunning 112dps compared to Deaths choice with 447.
havent tried it out personally but since RAWR never lies i wouldnt take it
Комментарий от
Odessa
I saw a comment saying that this now works properly so does that mean i no longer have to worry about being stood right on top of a boss to actually benefit from the proc? Also is it still bugged so that if the final mote doesn't come from your primary target the proc is wasted?
Комментарий от
307435
so now we know that this is the shiat for ret pve. but what about pvp? so far my research hasn't produced any useful results. what do you guys think? is it worth throwing away Death's Choice for this one? if possible, give a source. i would appreciate this very much.
Комментарий от
451079
This trinket + Shadowmourne's instant attacks from motes would make for some epic PvP burst.
Комментарий от
534473
If it's only accounting for 3 to 4% of your dps, it's a very poor trinket. Something like the whispering fanged skull probably gives me around a 5 or 6% boost at the most as a warrior, and it's better itemized. Although the hit rating on this could be useful, it actually has a lot less hit rating on it than it should have (when comparing it to stats on other trinkets of around the same level).
Комментарий от
Musqito
Anyone has a clue if this trinket is good for PROTRET PVP (protribution)?
Using DMC Greatness + DV normal atm.. Worth replacing any of these in that spec?
Thanks
Комментарий от
159606
Seems like the melee version of
Reign of the Dead
, you know, just better.
Also seems like a 2.0 of
Romulo's Poison Vial
.
Комментарий от
rogueyay
this is INCREDIBLY pointless for combat rogues...the guy that said this is NOT for mutilate, definitely needs to delete his rogue and do a favour to other rogues (no offence).
This is a BiS for mutilate rogues (non heroic) the hit is not only useful because mutilate rogues lack quite a bit of hit,
and because mutilate does alot more poison damage due to haste, it will help alot for energy/poison proccs, most wont be getting it for the 50% weapon damage, but for the other bonuses it gives, combat rogues would be better off with
Deathbringer's Will and whispering fanged skull / Death's verdict heroic.
Комментарий от
214933
Must be a gnome dk inside.
Комментарий от
436474
Ret Pallys Like This XD
Комментарий от
Chaserbl
Ok let's put some words here, since the last night I got my Tiny abo in a jar, which is first drop since Putricide exists, my guild is farming ICC25 and several HM, and yet we had no drops of it since the last night. I am proud to say I am first ret with it, but now let's cut to the chase.
Trinket is
Perversion
Example
Blood queen fight ~6mins I had 48 procs of it
Sindragosa 56 procs
Lich King 76 (reason why it's low it's because of stop dps phase on transition etc)
this trinket
is BY FAR best and it will be very hard to be replaced in Cataclysm I guess, or if blizz makes something like this copy paste trinket with extra swing.
Example, in aoe parts, from divine storm you can get 4-6 motes, single target using one ability can grant u up to 3 motes which is really, REALLY sick.
Retribution paladin prio, since they benefit from it 200% unlike other classes just because of seal proc damage which is hitting for 100% of it's value.
Chase out
Комментарий от
580737
for the people still wanting more info for retribution:
This trinket has a 50% chance to proc from:
Melee hits
yellow attacks
Seal of vengeance dmg
Refreshing Righteous Vengeance (dot)
Holy Vengeance (dot) not sure.
it does however not proc from Command itself.
The result is a 50% weapon dmg (physical) that will proc your seal at full dmg.
Selfbuff over a 15min fight on a dummy, the physical dmg of the trinket gave me around 4% total dmg, and another 4 to 5% from the seals procs, totalling around 8 to 9% of my total dps.
This trinket will benefit from every raid buff, the more haste, the more white attacks can proc, the more AP the more the 50% weapon dmg will hit and so will the seal at the same time.
Good luck to those out there waiting for this trinket.
Комментарий от
495744
been trying this as feral and the results are the same. around 1,0-1,8% of total damage, better get something else
here is one link from failed LK attempt
http://img705.imageshack.us/i/wowscrnshot051010223145.jpg/
Комментарий от
Thunerflick
Does it work for feral druids? if so I want one :)
Комментарий от
598028
just got this last week. for a ret pally, getting to 8 motes is very fast. and it crits. with
Bryntroll
, somewhere in the area of 3k-4k
Комментарий от
597408
hmmm.. a thought crossed my mind.
speaking from ferals point of view.... do you get this 'instant attack with one of your melee weapons'
with your actual equiped weapon .. or just one with yer good ol' paw?
what about
Enchant Weapon - Berserking
?
Комментарий от
Rheider
Any frost dk,that have gotten their hands on this one,that can say how useful it is?
Комментарий от
SinSorel
So I need to ask as an Enh Shaman in mostly 251s would this trinket be viable for proccing Maelstrom and all that? I've heard from a friend who raids in a top end guild that their Enh Shaman uses it and is also topping meters. Any answers to that?
Комментарий от
laert
does anybody tried it on a kitty?
Комментарий от
Quaglia
As of patch 3.3.3 for an Enh Shaman this trinket is incredible, even better then what Enh Sim shows. In fact, in all runs I did with it, Manifest Anger on main and off hand accounted alone for 2-2.3% of my overall DPS. The simulator, after more then 100K hours of different sessions estimated the damage for Manifest Anger at around 1.4% for my current gear (mainly lvl 264/277 items), and still the simulator estimated it as a better trinket vs. heroic WFS for me. Maybe there is something wrong in Enh Sim code on what can proc Manifest anger. Of course, also Rawr at the present time understimates it, since there is nothing defined for the proc effect.
With 2 lvl 277 weapons this beauty is amazing. I hope to put my hands soon on the HC version.
Ah, and I don't know if anybody already mentioned it, but motes of anger are NOT consumed while you are not in combat.
Комментарий от
ApocalypseAP
I've been testing this trinket out for about an hour and it seems they fixed the range problem. I can be completely out of melee range using Divine Storm without a target and Manifest Anger will still hit.
Using Seal of Command with Divine Storm procs the Seal on whichever mob Manifest Anger procs.
As a retribution paladin behind a level 83 training dummy with no buffs, Cryptmaker at 3.07 weapon speed and 4-piece T10 with Seal of Vengeance, this averages about 7.5% of my overall dps (including seal damage).
Комментарий от
257634
Is this any good for arms warriors? must be 1/2 decent for fury i guess cause duel weilding and lots of hits/procs
Комментарий от
Greatbrae
Is this any good for Unholy haste spec DK's?
Комментарий от
131549
This trinket is still viable for Mutilate Rogues. It procs with Fan of Knives too, and with good melee weapons and the proper amount of haste, it provides a welcome dps boost.
Additonally, the Motes of Anger don't reset when you kill a mob, and they don't appear to have a timer, so you can target the next mob and your previous motes will still count on the new mob!
Комментарий от
285102
Is this any good for dual wield frost DKs?
Комментарий от
Gnarzz
Anyone seen the epic - "Sold By"?
Sold by Flatland cougar for 45G 57S 60C
Комментарий от
anthraxus
I just ran a quick test on a training dummy with my *2H* Frost spec'd DK using a heroic Bryntroll as my weapon. My haste is at soft cap, a little over 900 and my attack speed is 1.7 sec. The trinket procked a total of 12 times in 5 minutes and accounted for 0.9% of my overall dps. This is not an exhaustive test by any means, just a quick run so your milage may vary.
Комментарий от
warheal80
Since this trinket is percent based wouldn't this be not a bad trinket in cata too?
Комментарий от
449096
Is it possible to wield bot this and th hc vertion at th same time?
Комментарий от
Vereesa
I was unable to accumulate Motes of Anger on my level 85 Frost Death Knight.
Комментарий от
997333
my undead DK needs this, she already has a ghoul and a tiny lich, but a cute little abomination would complete her cute scourge army <3
Комментарий от
Sixbones
At level 50 (after the Shadownlands level squish) it doesn't seem to accumulate Motes on a Feral Druid after looting it from the pre-patch Putricide boss, one of the rares that spawn during the event. Even though you gain it as personal loot for that specialisation.
EDIT: Seems to generate a mote now 19th november, at start of phase 2 of the pre-event.