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Оригинальное название Abaddon, зачем перевели АВаддон не понятно) Вообще это имя демона-разрушителя, по другим источникам - одно из имён ангела смерти. Осталось назвать самую крутую двуручку Люцифером..

Комментарий от FetSu

Отличный выбор для 2H ДК Танка, самый большой показатель стамины для 2Н на данный момент +хит на оружке поможет добить кап

Комментарий от 434883

Абаддон или Аваддон (то есть истребление); греческий аналог: Аполлион , то есть губитель — в иудейской (а затем и в христианской) теологии — ангел (демон) истребления, разрушения и смерти.Или если взять игру Darksiders - Аваддон - это павший ангел, который открыл 6 закрытых врат демонов, и в последствии стал сам рукой Уничтожения.

With the current infomation of obtainable loot from Ulduar 10 man and 25man, this weapons is a very strong candidate for BIS DK Tanking 2her.
Of course, however, we apparently only know about 40% of the loot table so there is a high probabilty a better weapon can be obtainable in 25 man atleast.

Hit is a nice stat to have on a weapon. With Naxx tanking gear you don't get that much hit. Armour pen not that useful but it's nice. Lower amount of strength. It has less strength that other leaked 2hers, but the loss in parry rating is infirior to the gain in stamina.
Replacing the Innevitable defeate for this weapon would mean you lose a large amount of agility. But in my opinnion the gain in stamina and damage stats of the weapon makes up for it, given you'd need to generate more threat to accomidate the increase in damage being delt by your guild through Ulduar gearing.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45516 can rival this weapon depending on how you'd socket. But the crit rating favours it as a dps weapon more. Abaddon theoretically would be easier to obtain (RNGs ftw).

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45165 is also a nice alternative. You lose stamina, but if you're an orc, that weapon would drown you in expertise which would be epic.

Комментарий от 356539

Abaddon has at least two meanings.
1. The destroyer, or angel of the bottomless pit; -- the same as Apollyon and Asmodeus.
2. Hell; the bottomless pit.

And could also be a possible reference to Abaddon the Despoiler of Worlds in the Warhammer 40,000
universe, in which he is considered the most powerful Chaos Lord currently in the 40k universe since the Horus Hesery.

Комментарий от coolguyry

Here's what this sword is a reference to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbadon. Enjoy.

Комментарий от 307977

Warhammer 40K reference possibly? Abaddon the Despoiler? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abaddon_the_Despoiler#Abaddon_the_Despoiler)The Link to the Wiki Page.

Комментарий от 321104

Abaddon is used in lots of things. It's not originally from warhammer. It's normally Abaddon the Destroyer, they just changed the name a bit because it's been used in countless games to signify something truly evil and bad.

Комментарий от Frallanboy

Or maybe just a designers revenge on a lazy worker?
Abaddon = A bad Don.
Grats Don!

Комментарий от 59603

This is dropped from final boss of 10 man version ulduar (yog-saron), so it is supposed to be a higher ilvl item compare ironsoul (from 1st boss). However, both abaddon and ironsoul have the same dps...

Комментарий от aleca

Abaddon, Lord of Avernus a dota hero.
http://www.dota-allstars.com/hero/2711/index.html

Комментарий от Falell

This was thecase in previous instances, but is not the case in Ulduar.

Previous instances (with occasional exceptions & not counting hard modes):

All items from each boss had identical item levels
Weapons were the same ilvl as everything else
End bosses dropped higher ilvl gear

Ulduar:

The ilvl of all items for a specific slot are the same across all bosses in a specific mode (normal vs hard)
Weapons are higher ilvl than other items
End bosses do not drop higher lvl loot, increased ilvl items are only found in hard modes

Algalon could throw a wrench into all this, if his hard mode (aka his only mode) dropped higher ilvl loot than all the other hard modes. We'll see.

Комментарий от 235449

For ret pallies, at least, this weapon is actually inferior to both Ironsoul and Stormedge in terms of damage capability. The majority of a ret pally's attacks scale with weapon damage, and it would take a mountain of stats to make up for the almost 30 point drop in top end damage.

For rets doing solely normal mode 10 man, my suggestion is to farm Loot Leviathan for Ironsoul and enjoy.

Комментарий от 362325

I would love to get this for my DPS dk just for the near tanking strength and stamina boosts and the fact it would annoy the hell out of my guild leader

Комментарий от 360189

The color inside the sharp edges of the sword is shifting between brown (as shown on the picture i posted) and blue about every 2 seconds.
Really amazing graphics that unfortunately can't be shown in a picture.

Комментарий от 362592

In Christian and Judaism religion, In the Revalation of St. John, Abaddon is the "King of Tormenting Locusts" and the "Angel of the Bottomless Pit."

This is quite possibly making a reference this.

edit: Correct me if I'm incorrect ^^;

Комментарий от Greenproject

The stats of this blade are dreamed by the most of the Melee DPSers,the name is just great,but the Design is awful for such a powerful weapon.

Комментарий от 346367

Since this isn't Unique-Equipped can a Titan's Grip warrior use two of these to maximize health. This is atm the highest base staminia weapon.

Комментарий от 363202

This sword also shares the name of a DotA (Defense of the Ancients) hero in Warcraft III, who uses a similar looking sword as his weapon.

Комментарий от 30628

Abaddon means Evil or Dark in latin

Комментарий от Myriani

I just got Abaddon this week. I'm a Blood Tank/Frost DPS on my DK. This weapon is fantastic for tanking as Blood, as the vast majority of your damage is purely physical and the armor penetration gives a nice kick to your overall TPS.

It's hard to hit cap as a tank, and this blade has a healthy amount of Strength, Stamina and Hit, and rivals the 25 man 2-handers purely based on stat allocation.

Oh yeah, and it looks badass.

Комментарий от Titan

ooh this looks like it will be every Plate DPS's wet dream.

I WANT IT NOW.

Комментарий от Antrion

also Abaddon is the name of an evil giant in the Land of Elyon books.

Комментарий от 325521

The dps is decent, but the dmg is too low =/

Комментарий от Loreanadruid

Stormedge wins in any dps comparison... end of story... more hit, SLIGHTLY less armor penne, but with a bit slower so its better for any melee dpser... so yeah... it wins

Комментарий от 183025

This could quite possibly be a reference to the end boss of the Nightfall campaign in Guildwars, who is named Abaddon as well.

Комментарий от Iconix

And I can't believe you're lecturing people on normalization when you don't understand how it works either.

From the article you linked on wowwiki:

Normalization refers to an Attack Power adjustment made to instant attacks

Normalization only affects the bonus damage gained from attack power, which is why top-end damage still DOES matter. Normalization was created to ensure that the top-end damage of the weapon is the only determining factor in damage difference, and not that slower weapons also received a larger per-hit damage bonus from attack power as well.

Once again from the wowwiki Normalization article you linked without apparently reading:

Prior to patch 1.8, the weapon damage used for instant attacks was:

damage = base_weapon_damage + (weapon_speed * Attack Power / 14)

Currently, the normalized weapon damage for instant attacks is:

normalized_damage = base_weapon_damage + (X * Attack Power / 14)

where X is:

* 1.7 for daggers
* 2.4 for other one-handed weapons
* 3.3 for two-handed weapons
* 2.8 for ranged weapon

Notice that base weapon damage is still part of the damage formula, so for the 2 hypothetical weapons you listed:

Weapon A: 270 - 370 Damage, Speed 3.2, 100 dps
Weapon B: 330 - 430 Damage, Speed 3.8, 100 dps

And a hypothetical 2800 attack power (2800/14 = 200), the final damage for each weapon will be the original damage plus the normalized gain from attack power, or 200 * 3.3 = 660 bonus damage

So therefore:

Weapon A: 270 - 370 Damage + 660 = 930 - 1030 damage
Weapon B: 330 - 430 Damage + 660 = 990 - 1090 damage

Difference in base damage: 60 per swing, difference after AP: 60 per swing

The damage difference after the attack power gain is 60 damage per swing, the same as the difference in the base weapon damage. This difference remains but the attack power adds a fixed amount. Before normalization the bonus damage from attack power would be different for each weapon, magnifying the benefit of using the slower weapon for instant attacks like Crusader Strike, MS, etc.

Pre-normalization:

Weapon A: 270 - 370 base + (200*3.2 = 640) = 910 - 1010 damage
Weapon B: 330 - 430 base + (200*3.8 = 760) = 1090 - 1190 damage

Difference in base damage: 60 per swing, difference after AP: 180 per swing

So before the attack power bonus was normalized, the instant weapon damage was dramatically increased for slower weapons. After normalization, attack power bonus is consistent and only the difference between the weapons' base damage affects their total damage on instant attacks.

Комментарий от AMIB

Now that we know all of the loot...

With 159 stamina, Abaddon is the highest-stamina Death Knight tanking weapon, unless you are clearing hardmodes or can get an arena rating of 1850 or higher, higher than even the heroic Ulduar non-hard-mode drops. It is also the highest threat weapon for a human DK tank who is not doing 25-man Ulduar.

DKs of other races who aren't doing hard modes or heroic Ulduar will get more threat out of Stormedge, and any DK will get more avoidance out of an agility-based weapon like Hoperender.

DKs who are looking to upgrade from Abaddon without sacrificing stamina have six choices, from lowest possible stamina to highest:
All gem slots are assumed to be Solid Sky Sapphires. Anyone with access to Solid Dragon's Eyes can put them wherever they like.

Dark Edge of Depravity - Dropped by Yogg-Saron in heroic mode Ulduar, with one or zero Keepers assisting the raid. This weapon has 177 stamina, good speed, and tied-for-best-in-slot DPS, as well as agility for avoidance and a significant dollop of hit for threat. On the other hand, haste is relatively low-value for DK tanks, and the amount of AP is low. This is a significant upgrade over non-hard-mode loot, but as this is best-in-slot or tied-for-best-in-slot for four other significant raiding specs (feral druids, arms warriors, and marksman and survival hunters) and a fair bit less than best-in-slot for tanking death knights, some raids will see fit to favor the DPSers. (Your raid, as always, will need to make its own decisions.)
Hammer of Crushing Whispers - Dropped by Yogg-Saron in non-heroic mode Ulduar, with one or zero Keepers assisting the raid. This weapon has 185 stamina and exceptional speed and DPS, as well as a significant dollop of hit for threat. This is a very well-balanced weapon for a death knight tank: the only stat of relatively low value is the critical strike rating.
Aesir's Edge - Dropped by hard-mode XT-002 in non-heroic Ulduar. This weapon has 188 stamina and exceptional speed and DPS. Unlike HoCW above, it is itemized more heavily for stats attractive to DPS classes and specs. On the other hand, it is very nearly as good as HoCW, and drops from a significantly easier boss.
Voldrethar, Dark Blade of Oblivion - Dropped by hard-mode General Vezax in heroic Ulduar, this has 193 stamina, exceptional speed, and tied-for-best-in-slot DPS. This is best-in-slot for nearly every spec which can equip it, and tanking DKs are no exception.
An ilevel 232 Furious Gladiator weapon (example) - Obtained from the arena vendor at 1850 rating. This weapon has 228 stamina and exceptional weapon DPS and speed. On the other hand, critical strike rating is fairly low value to tanks, the resilience is likely useless, and AP does not contribute to avoidance or scale with talents and Blessing of Kings.
An ilevel 239 Furious Gladiator weapon (example) - Obtained from the arena vendor at 2350 rating. This weapon has 240 stamina, exceptional speed, and tied-for-best-in-slot weapon DPS. As with the lower-level PVP weapons, critical strike rating is fairly low value to tanks, the resilience is useless, and AP is less useful than strength.

As for other melee classes, Abaddon is filler. Most classes will prefer Stormedge if they need the hit, Ironsoul if they don't. Both are easier to get and better-itemized for DPS. Until you get any Ulduar drops or a Betrayer of Humanity, this is acceptable filler.

Arms warriors are a notable exception: Abaddon is exceedingly poor for arms warriors. Unless you are replacing a non-epic weapon, an ilevel 200 epic weapon, or Armageddon, replacing your current weapon with Abaddon is a DPS loss, due to the low effectiveness of Sword Specialization.

Комментарий от 408144

looks awsome XD

Комментарий от Lahm

With its High Stamina this weapon is excellent for DK tanks

Комментарий от 428836

Also the name of Horus' Terminator captain of the First Company. He took over the Sons of Horus after the heresy

Комментарий от 179229

"In the past Jehovah's Witnesses shared the idea that Abaddon was Satan. Modern Jehovah's Witnesses, take the contrasting view, believing that Abaddon is a name given to Jesus." is it just me or did this text say that Jehovah's Witnesses are infact satanist's? :O

Комментарий от 415748

Death Knight tanking weapon.
'Nuff said.

Комментарий от 324197

While Ulduar, and particularly Yogg-Saron, is considerably more difficult and time-consuming than Heroic Trial of the Champion, ultimately I feel that Edge of Ruin is a superior weapon. More strength, slower, and better overall itemization for plate DPS. What a shame because this weapon has a cool model.

Комментарий от iratenax

Abaddon is also the name of the primary antagonist of the MMORPG Guild Wars: Nightfall. He's an evil god that's corrupting the continent of Elona and its habitants, much like Yogg-Saron.

Комментарий от MartinTheWarrior

A no-no for ret pallies.

Комментарий от 235720

This sword is a Refrence to Abaddon, a Demon in Christian Demonology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abaddon_(demon)

Комментарий от Samonsky

abbadon is the name of the angel of death so this sword is the angel of death awesome

Комментарий от 659936

I agree with Trul, a WH40K reference is more what I thought of compared to religion and the sword reminds me of a commander saber from fan art I saw made about "Horus Rising".

Комментарий от RazerCrime

It's damage is now as high as a icc hc weapon, guess it's a site misstake.

Комментарий от Yogthsothoth

Just got this and I have to say it may just be my favorite sword model behind Corrupted Ashbringer.

Looks absolutely sick, the runic etchings on the blade glimmer and the bedazzled hilt has a sort of subtle consistent glow. Looks great with full Warrior AQ40 gear and a Shadowmoon Destroyer's Drape.

Комментарий от Soldrethar95

This sword with the Tier 11 Paladin or Death Knight looks incredible! I would highly recommend to have it as transmog!
Even Warriors can use this transmog.

Комментарий от devildogz

Just got the sword and think it's just awesome. Am going to try and include a ss of my DK with it.

Комментарий от Shivacode

This sword matches perfectly with the Paladin CM transmog gear (Holy Warrior set).

Комментарий от nariac

With the Legion 7.0 patch this sword and those which share its model have gained a new shimmering light effect which flows along the blade from the hilt upwards.

Комментарий от RoboCops13

Does this still drop? I have had 20-25 tries already, and haven't seen it drop yet.

Комментарий от niestus

How does this work with the new Raid setup? Now that they're combined, do we still need at least 2 Guardians to have it drop? Or can it be farmed alongside Mim's Head?

Комментарий от zuursuuta

1/3/19 dropped for my priest.

Комментарий от Harusos

So I have been farming this ever since the tmog system came out in legion. Never dropped.
Turned on one of the keepers so I am NOT doing hard mode and got it on my first attempt.
This may only drop from the regular mode and not the hard mode version.