What would make this (and the health version of it) potion very interesting would be if it would ignore potion sickness. "So small you can even drink it while being potion sick" for example. Just wishful thinking I guess.

Otherwise like Doubleb said mostly just for reducing downtime and a boost in arenas.

Комментарий от durenas

Notice the disparity in mana given vs the healing potion's health restoration. I guess they don't want these things to be good for healers. So they end up being good for nobody.

Комментарий от 2033

I was wondering why would anyone create this while they can create Endless Rejuvenation Potion with merely 2 stacks more health potions? Replenish both health and mana, same cooldown time (shared also), and even lower skill required to create (410 vs 415).

Комментарий от 180957

Either way the rejuvination potion or this one, why bother? The mana u gain isn't really enough for nething. Given the 3 min cooldown. Meh I'd rather something else, either a straight up mana potion or the mana potion injector.

Комментарий от keeper77

the amount of mana gained threw this is a very small amount compared to the regular potion, which grants 4k mana (consumable). Also the healing version of this heals 2000 and the runic heals 4k as well. Honestly, these should be used as a back up potion, or just use them when you don't want to waste your more precious healing potions. *if i would get a endless potion i would take rejuvenation (I'm a mage)

Комментарий от 166026

lifetap ftw?

Комментарий от 78102

I'm guessing that http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=13503 (and all other similar trinkets) would give the 400-600 mana per use a 40% boost but have not heard anyone confirm.

edit: added parenthetical

Комментарий от Gosgosgosu

Though I think this is a great potion, it would seem that outside of instance DPS/Healing this has no use compared to the Endless Healing Potion.

Though I'd really like to know if anyone has found out if this shares cooldowns with other potions or the Endless Healing Potion? And if it does does it activate the Potion Sickness effect? (only able to use one potion per battle)

Комментарий от frmorrison

Consider that an Alchemist may be using their trinket, so that means this mana potion will restore 560-840 mana at no cost after crafting this.

Note that you can only use one potion per encounter in PvE, so if you are really in need of mana you want to use the Runic Mana Potion.

Комментарий от Neptuno

the low amount of mana plus a 3 min cooldown blows, but its one of those spam things during grinding and you'll probably have an alchemist stone since both req. 400 alchemy for northrend ones. personally, i think it shouldn't share a cooldown with other mana potions in combat (ie give alchemists a "free" extra potion per fight)

i plan to make one more for skillups than for long term practical use... the hp one as well, but it's a good deal handier imo.

update: triggers 3 minute cooldown on any potion. have not tested in combat though.

Комментарий от 117913

In PvE it shares combat cooldowns with normal potions. So you cant use a Runic mana potion, then 2 minutes into the same battle use this little puppy.

Комментарий от 161867

It is nice even though it gives so little mana. Considering how many mana pots a caster may go though along with those cost can be pricey. This is a potion for the cheap and the broke. It DOES share cooldowns will all other pots. The only thing that annoys me is that it sets off a 3 minute Global CD on all pots vs the 1 min on regular pots. This is the PvE pot preference while endless health, the PvP.

Комментарий от 249594

Meh, not enough mana to even be worth the materials. At least the Endless Healing Potion restores a decent amount of health.

Комментарий от tulsplat

assuming an alchemist's stone, this would be between 15-23 mp5 without taking up an item slot (if you are grinding or in some situation you wouldn't use normal potions, and use it every time it's up and always need the mana)

(of course, during a serious combat encounter, you would use normal runic potions, and this would be valueless)

Комментарий от 267801

As of 3.0.3, this recipe for this potion requires alchemy level 410 to learn, not 415.

Комментарий от caboom

It can crit like anyother potion.

Комментарий от 105193

There is a typo error, its name was Useless Mana Potion.
At level 80, 22k mana, arena or not 600 mana doesn't worth a single spell.

Комментарий от vexis58

Yay! As many level 22 mana potions as I can drink! Just what I always wanted!

/sarcasm

Комментарий от 243210

If you can cast an instant spell for 400 mana that restores 1800+ health, then this is better opt than the healing potion for arenas

Комментарий от arkov

Very, very cool. Almost makes me wish I was an alchemist.

Комментарий от 302352

This ends up averaging 13.89 mp5, which is pretty amazing for arenas. About the same item budget as 40 spell power or 70 attack power. That's better than being a JC with 3 dragon's eyes (about 27 spell dmg equiv advantage) or Enchanter (38 spell dmg equiv advantage) and all at a tiny fraction of the cost. And you don't have to respend that gold every time you get an upgrade.

If it gave any more mana, it would become so OP that every healer MUST be an alchemist to be competitive in arenas.

Комментарий от iLive

A minor boost in mana is always great. IMO it doesn't need improvements.

Комментарий от 167487

As at ret pally, the fact that it is a small amt of mana isn't that important since my spells are a percentage of my max mana which is about 5500. So it's just enough to get a judgement off or another spell. So I recommend it for other retribution paladins.

Комментарий от Kayja

Just wish they would create a second potion like this, one that won't work in arena's but provides a much larger boost to mana as this potion is almost useless for PvE. Maybe even do the same for the Endless Health Potion, although to be honest I think that one is good in PvE.

Комментарий от Deivijs

What a useless piece of nothing. I spend more mana with 1 regrowth than using this p.o.s.

Комментарий от Hawkedge

is it really endless?

Комментарий от carela

The cooldown on this potion starts when you get out of combat, so if you can escape your attackers for about 5 seconds in PVP, the cooldown timer will start ticking down, so you can use it more than once in an arena match. Confirmed yesterday- popped it 3 times in one arena

Комментарий от 104621

This and Dark Rune are the 2 only usable items to get mana during the fight against General vezax in Ulduar. makes the hardmode abit easier(enough for a penance, or a shield as disc priest).

Комментарий от Biske

With the upcoming profession changes:

Endless Healing Potion and Endless Mana Potion no longer usable in arenas. Amount of health and mana has been increased, and the cooldown reduced. They are still usable everywhere else.

Комментарий от Spicychckn

On PTR this does 1800 to 3000 mana, still not consumed when used

Комментарий от Maliander

This newly buffed no-arena potion is great for both grinding and trash pulls. Running out of mana if you chain chug these is quite hard. Since you'll be out of combat very frequently in these occasions, you can nearly use it every minute. This single item sitting in your bags can give you a whopping 5*((1800+3000)/2)/60 = 200 MP5. If you're using an Alchemist's Stone, it's even 280 MP5. Being in combat as it comes off CD will of coarse lower these values a little, but you can still expect some serious mana returns from this item.

Due to its short CD, you also don't have to worry about not having your potion CD ready for your Crazy Alchemist's Potion during boss fights, because at most 1 minute into the fight the CD will be up (assuming you don't use endless potions during difficult boss fights).

Комментарий от 424125

No longer usable in arenas.

Комментарий от 195132

For any new alchemists who might not see the benefits of this...

Since it is never consumed, you can use it every cooldown for no cost.
You can significantly reduce downtime in Instances or Solo by using this every cooldown. Not to mention the gold saved on water, since you won't have to drink as often.
This is the ONLY mana potion that can be used in Arenas.

While you shouldn't use this to replace Runic Mana Potions on fights where the extra mana is needed, it is nice when using a Runic Mana Potion would be silly because of the cost to make.

Комментарий от 328065

Both this and the Endless Healing Potion can be crafted and used by a level 65 or higher character. If you can figure out a way to get to 400 Alchemy at that level, you can pretty much eliminate the need to carry water around while questing.

Комментарий от sagnheiili

In the popular WC3 custom map RPG "The Black Road", there are endless healing and mana potions with the same icon.

Комментарий от benedikta

With alchemist stone:
2520 to 4200 mana.
Compare to Runic Mana Potion

Комментарий от babymitch

pefect for my druid, in the situation where i change specs and want to hop into bird form quick :)

Комментарий от rentedouthero

This ends up being godly for pally tanks. With our small small mana pool as you get higher gear and end up mana starved in low dmg roic trash fights. 1/min you get most of your mana pool back. <3

Комментарий от Chesco

Very useful in raids, I personally love not having to buy runic mana pots and waste money. Worth the time and effort to make, never runs out, I promise.

Комментарий от 445201

Are they infinite potion?
is it mean i dont need again from them?

Комментарий от 139445

Kinda funny how everyone that says they save money not having to buy the Runic Mana Potions when using this item.

Considering as an alchemist you can make your own potions reasonably cheap.

Комментарий от Polatrite

After leveling a druid with alchemy from 70 -> 80 (having made this at 70) and then going on to gear up, I can honestly say I could not recommend any other profession higher. This potion on either caster spec literally allows for no mana breaks even with mediocre gear combined with Innervate. Leveling up almost purely from instances, I had to stop to actually drink mana likely under 10 times through the dozens and dozens of instances that were run. At level 80, this allowed me to heal through terrible pulls in H-FoS with about 3.3k GS with ease.

Alchemy is truly an amazing profession for any leveling caster, and the alchemy/herbalist combo is great for any mana user whatsoever (lifeblood is quite helpful). Be sure you make your alchemy stones at the appropriate levels to take full advantage.

Комментарий от 402241

At first this item might seem like a waste of inventory space because it returns less mana than a Runic Mana Potion and shares the same CD. (This item counts as a standard potion when used in combat; you will only be able to use it again or a Runic Mana potion when combat has ended.)

I have found a good use for it which serves me very well. What I do is I use this to regenerate mana when OUT of combat. (A quick alternative to drinking between pulls or when grinding between mobs.) I set up a macro that equips my Alchemist's Stone and then uses the potion when out of combat. This way I get to utilise the extra 40% bonus. It also means that in a maximum of 1 min after use, I will be able to use this or a Runic Mana potion in combat because it was consumed when out of combat. For heroics I rarely have to stop for drinks at all because using this macro between pulls keeps my mana pool adequately filled.

Here is an edited version of the macro I use:
#showtooltip item:43570
/equipslot 13 item:44322
/use item:43570
/equipslot 13 item:<ID>
/equipslot 13 item:<ID>

First click will equip stone AND use potion. 2nd click will re-equip preferred trinket depending on which spec you are in. If you want to use this only when OOC, then place "/stopmacro " after the first line.

Edit: fixed formatting errors.

Комментарий от Benegesserit

Is this getting updated for Cata? Otherwise I can see alchs running around with wrath items for a little extra regen between pulls or in bgs

Комментарий от Mageorama

Now only heal for 2400 just like super mana potion(lvl 55)... all mana/health pot heal for a specific amount. They can always crits and be modified by alchemist stone

Комментарий от deepfiretroll

It would appear these awesome potions are not currently in cata, at least not in a upgraded form. However, these potions were introduced a certain time into wrath, so they still may make an upgraded appearance *crosses fingers*

Комментарий от probstdk

Комментарий от 385492

Despite the fact that I want a cata version, I still use this guy. If for some inane reason my pally tank runs oom, this is PLENTY to get Judgements of the Wise back up and running. As a healer, 2500 or so mana on top of Divine Plea and Arcane Torrent can do wonders, even in the age 100k+ mana.

Комментарий от Lovestar

So, it's a magical "endless" potion that requires you to be an Alchemist to use it. This suggests to me that something about the potion is unsuitable for the average consumer, and that only someone specially-trained can use it properly (or safely).

I began thinking about what a trained Alchemist could possibly do differently that would allow them to consume an infinite potion which regular customers could not. I started working through the most promising possibilities.

Hypothesis 1:
This item's flask is actually a magically-enchanted focus that opens a small rift to some sort of alternate dimension composed entirely of mana-restoring liquid. Every time you drink it, more fluid trickles in from this magical dimension. Because this is highly experimental and untested, it's not safe to market to regular customers.

But that doesn't make sense, because the recipe to create it is clearly just 10 regular potions poured into a bigger flask. This lead me to approach the problem from a different angle.

Hypothesis 2:
It's completely safe and useable by everyday customers, but Alchemists have universally agreed to keep its existence a secret so they don't go bankrupt if people discover you can just shove 10 normal consumables together and then never have to buy a potion or flask again.

The problem with this idea is that Alchemists could also unite and control the market on such an appealing item, so they might actually increase profits, especially if they kept the creation method a secret. But more problematic, it still doesn't explain why jamming 10 normal pots together makes one which never runs out — but is weaker.

To my dismay, this all lead to one inevitable conclusion about the most likely explanation for this "Endless" potion:

Hypothesis 3:
There's nothing magical about it. Cheap and/or insane Alchemists have just learned how to extract the active ingredients of mana potion back out of their own urine.

Комментарий от kingthorin

Is there a legion equivalent for this?

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