Если вам нет куда потртатить голды то можете покупать этот маунт. Но я думаю лучше уже получить на Мехакостюм из Каменного Свода будет не так затратно. И самое интересное что по сути они отличаются тока текстурами

Комментарий от Pascal45

Закупая всё у Пакстона Взрывайчика, его сборка обойдется около 5 миллионов голда, но это неточно.

So I tried some Обшаривание запчастей in the last Beta build, to see how many components we can get without having to buy them directly to Пакстон Взрывайчик

I leveled up Engineering to 36/100
put 10 points in Inventing, and 40 points in Parts (one should have been okay, but I put more anyway)

The results are :

2000 Пригоршня висмутовых болтов
- 6 Изобилие болтов
- 1 Жидкость для фар
- 400 Груда ржавого металлолома

2000 Усилитель энтропии
- 152 Изобилие болтов
- 6 Набор вертушек
- 10 Жидкость для фар
- 1 Катастрофический конвертор
- 2300+ Груда ржавого металлолома

2000 Схема хаоса
- 159 Изобилие болтов
- 7 Набор вертушек
- 1 Жидкость для фар
- 3 Катастрофический конвертор
- 2 Противоударная броня
- 2400+ Груда ржавого металлолома

2000 Вращающаяся шестеренка
- 124 Изобилие болтов
- 7 Набор вертушек
- 1 Жидкость для фар
- 1 Катастрофический конвертор
- 1600+ Груда ржавого металлолома

2000 Защитное реле
- 104 Изобилие болтов
- 9 Набор вертушек
- 4 Жидкость для фар
- 3 Катастрофический конвертор
- 1 Противоударная броня
- 1600+ Груда ржавого металлолома

2000 Причудливые провода
- 26 Изобилие болтов
- 1 Катастрофический конвертор
- 400 Груда ржавого металлолома

I didn't see Разрешение на разборки, but if you're patient, and have a lot of component to scrap, you can get the mount for a lot less money.

Комментарий от Akamaa

Pilfering rates seem to be entirely different now on release, some people mentioned that you can also use old expansion mats like Горсть серевитовых болтов would yield you a bunch of the needed crafting materials, so far from around 5000 Горсть серевитовых болтов i got 600 Изобилие болтов and nothing else. Not sure on the new materials as they are insanely expensive right now on launch

Комментарий от DrewBMeeks

Hey kids, we see that people really aren't that interested in mythic instanced content. We're going to take that into account and add fun alternate versions of the stuff we've been handing out like candy to the pros who just buy their game time with in-game gold transactions for WOW tokens, so here's this mount that you can make all by yourself. How do you get the materials? Oh, you wait until much later in the expansion when you've built up a bunch of materials by spending literally 8 hours a day farming ore and hopefully maybe get enough to make one to sell on the auction house. Oh you don't want to do that? Well then just farm up 3.2 million gold. How can you do that? We'd suggest running raids to earn the most gold available per hour. ENJOY!

Комментарий от Moods

I got everything up to Противоударная броня so far from pilfering thorium widgets. But I only pilfered about 300 times. Melting 30k thorium ore now will update when done

Комментарий от Gnina

How many knowledge points do you need in parts, I only have one point in it and the rest in inventing and scrapping and I can't find the other mount parts except the bolts.

Комментарий от SilverMage

Result of a 5k pilfer of Thorium Widgets

Комментарий от R1NN1

In case you are wondering, where to get this recipe. I got this as RNG loot from Comprehensibly Organized Ideas. The Pilfering and Inventing System in Engineering. Got it at 5 ideas.

Комментарий от francoisjabbour

Pilfered 300 thorium widgets and only got 3 - 5 pile of rusted scrap. Pilfered 200 handful of serevite bolts (from Dragonflight) and got 1 pile of rusted scrap for each one.

Not sure if something's been changed or if I'm incredibly unlucky.

Комментарий от Megamedes

Really disappointed they just made a profession mount a recolor with two other available mounts. I don't think most people are going to pay the typical high prices for one of these if they can get another one with the exact same model from farming regular content over the course of the expansion. See Мехакостюм из Каменного Свода and Оборонительный модуль 1-11

Комментарий от Korijenkins

Probably won't be a popular opinion but...

Imo Blizzard has kinda lost the plot. Gold sinks work best when the mounts are unique or have a really uncommon model. Having 3 or 4 different ways to get an Earthen mechsuit devalues this thing as a rare gold sink mount.

When the spider released in Legion, it was the only spider in the game. When the Brutosaur came out, only one. Lightforged mech, a smaller sink, only model. Others like the Scarab only have 1 or 2 recolors available.

If this was the ONLY way to get this model, it'd be an excellent gold sink. If there was only one other, difficult, means of getting the same model, it'd also work. 3 million for a mount with multiple reskins available for way less effort? Hard pass, even if this does have the best color scheme of them all.

Комментарий от rivimatt

My own experience pilfering 43k parts is that the parts work as a sort of rare drop, with the part you get then being rolled from a separate chance, with bolts being separate. So you pilfer, then it decides if you get an addition, either bolts or rare drop, and if it's the drop it then determines which one based on the weights, Assorted Whirligigs being about a 40% chance, Blinker Fluid around a 30%, Cataclysmic Converter being about a 20%, Plating is around 8%, and the Permit feels like 0.5% chance

Ignoring bolts, the normal parts had about a 3% chance to drop overall, meaning under odds for the the permit seems to be about 33k parts pilfered, with 40k being around the sweet spot to get everything else you need besides 100 of the whirligigs. If you plan on gambling on the mount via parts, it's worth it if you can buy 40k parts for under 2.85 mil

Again this is all based on experiences and like 5 minutes of doing math so not necessarily comprehensive but with that big a sample size I think it's fairly accurate

My actual numbers of each item was

Scrap: Too much to count
Bolts: 3k/1k needed
Assorted Whirligigs: 95/200
Blinker Fluid: 85/80
Cataclysmic Converter: 58/50
Pummel-Proof Plating: 17/20
Pummel Permit 0/1

Edit: Mixture of Thorium Widgets and Unstable Triggers

Комментарий от Miniegun

Experimenting with old cheap parts:

1000 Fused Wiring: Cost = 10000g.
Results:
4 x Bountiful Bolts
1 x Cataclysmic Converter
1 x Assorted Whirlygig

1000 Copper Bolts: Cost = 8000g
Results:
127 x Bountiful Bolts

400 Laestrite Ore = 619 Laestrite Bolts = 2500g
Results:
88 x Bountiful Bolts

I will update this as I try more!

Комментарий от Shashos

Started out small as an experiment to spend as little as possible.

Mined 1000 Thorium ore crafted into Thorium Widgets which I then Pilfered:

1 Blinker Fluid
1 Cataclysmic Converter
1 Pummel-proof Plating
35 Bountiful Bolts
275 Pile of Rusted Scrap

I tried Pilfering a stack of Laestrite Bolts but didn't have much luck. Only got Scrap and Bountiful Bolts. It seems that Pilfering items that require more in terms of crafting effort gives better results.

It's going to take a while doing it this way, but overall, it will save some gold.

Edit: I've spent so much time farming and buying mats from every eligible expansion and had abysmal luck.

This last attempt was pilfering 2000 Unstable Triggers: (I spent a lot of gold on Mithril and Solid Stone)

3 Cataclysmic Converter
5 Assorted Whirligigs
4 Blinker Fluid
141 Bountiful Bolts
1751 Rusted Scrap

This honestly doesn't appear feasible unless you already have a lot of gold to spend, OR are willing and able to spend hours upon hours farming/crafting. Judging by the amounts of gold I've already spent, it would probably be cheaper just to buy the vendor mats and be done with it.

Комментарий от Versorius

Sorry but there's no way I'm even attempting to spend 3 million on a mount that's a recolour from a much easier mount to obtain.

Blizzard have lost their uniqueness. What a rip off.

Комментарий от Raemann

I suggest taking a look at this post - By selerik (2,649 – 1·22·34) 27 days ago (Patch 11.0.2)
The War Within Engineering - Discovery Mechanics (A great idea, or scrap it?)
He covers things like how to best proceed through the profession to getting the things you are after AND how as you finish the segments you will receive less drops - like... "Since prototypes (recyclable) are replaced with Hastily Scrawled Notes Hastily Scrawled Notes (not recyclable), Scour Through Scrap becomes a less efficient source of parts."
- I would read this if you have not progressed too far in engineering and are after a particular recipe.

Комментарий от merovegas

Okay, I've pilfered and recorded ~105,000 parts now and I'm going to share my results. I've pilfered some miscellaneous parts not listed here, but I wasn't really keeping track of the yields.

I was farming for the "Толпогон 2-30" and I cannot stress enough how inefficient this whole process is. Unless market rates for parts drop dramatically, it is simply not worth it to try to farm for the mount. Buying mount parts from the auction house (as long as they are under vendor prices) is the only way to go. (I never got the permit and eventually just bought it for 600k on the auction house.) Even *if* I got the permit, the overall investment in this is far too much time and energy.

Expect 50k parts at least
I think based on my projections, you need a Thorium Widget-level of part quality and about 50k of those parts in order to make the mount. So take the price of that part, multiply it by 50k, and then see if this method makes sense. Compare the price of mats to the price of simply buying mats on the AH. For the mount's vendor price, it is 3.1m. That means that to have a chance at breaking even compared to vendor cost, you shouldn't buy top-tier pilfering parts for less than 62g each. Realistically, purchasing mount parts off the AH is as much as 30-40% off, so you shouldn't really be buying any parts for pilfering (or parts for building parts to pilfer) unless they are under 35g each (see my Ториевое устройство score below).

(Money return is not really feasible with market rates right now, you'll be losing plenty of money on this if you plan to sell all your parts!)

Theory for how mount parts work
So that being said, my theory for how mount part yields work is slightly different than how Груда ржавого металлолома yields work. See Kraybee's comment on the Pilfer Through Parts item comments for a great breakdown on Rusted scrap yields. I think there is a relationship between input components for a part (literally how many different kinds of items comprise a single part) and the scrap yield.

However, something that yields high amounts of scrap does not necessarily have an equally high chance to give mount parts. But the overall "complexity" of the part seems to determine some kind of special loot proc chance that is specific to the mount. Thorium Widgets are a "top tier" part for proccing the mount parts and tend to be pretty affordable too, relative to others. Typically each expansion has 1 or 2 parts that are the "best" with some mid- and low-tier parts. I don't know what all of these actually are.

Aside from bolt-type parts, which seem to mostly just yield bountiful bolts, every other kind of part I tested has a chance to yield higher level parts. But again, my theory is that lower-tier parts have a worse chance at proc'ing mount parts while better parts have a higher chance to proc what you need.

Bad luck
I never received a Permit, but I am guessing that a clean 1 in 10k chance (or 50k parts of highest quality) is probably the number the devs chose, since that is about how many it takes to get almost all of your parts (except for Assorted Whirligigs, which seem to require almost twice as much as others). This's all speculation though! (But one thing I know for certain is that I am really unlucky.)

Resourcefulness matters
Note: You want to use a high resourcefulness Samophlange before using Обшаривание запчастей, since that stat does affect how many parts you can retain from each pilfer. It is the only stat that matters. Unfortunately, the Изобретение profession-related trait (in Ingenious) that says it will give you more resourcefulness doesn't actually work.

I had 18% resourcefulness for most of this process.

Yield results
Note that every part got a "score" based on the vendor price of all the parts it yielded divided by how many parts it took.
~25,000 Ториевое устройство, score: 38.72
0 / 1 Разрешение на разборки
11 / 20 Противоударная броня
24 / 50 Катастрофический конвертор
51 / 80 Жидкость для фар
60 / 200 Набор вертушек

~60,000 Амортизирующая пружина, score: 27.925
0 / 1 Разрешение на разборки
17 / 20 Противоударная броня
44 / 50 Катастрофический конвертор
83 / 80 Жидкость для фар
123 / 200 Набор вертушек

~5k Адамантитовая рамка, score: 24.6
0 / 1 Разрешение на разборки
1 / 20 Противоударная броня
4 / 50 Катастрофический конвертор
7 / 80 Жидкость для фар
6 / 200 Набор вертушек

~5k Перегруженный конденсатор, score: 24.3
0 / 1 Разрешение на разборки
2 / 20 Противоударная броня
2 / 50 Катастрофический конвертор
6 / 80 Жидкость для фар
7 / 200 Набор вертушек

~5k Нестабильное пусковое устройство, score: 21.2
0 / 1 Разрешение на разборки
1 / 20 Противоударная броня
3 / 50 Катастрофический конвертор
5 / 80 Жидкость для фар
8 / 200 Набор вертушек

Total (approx cost: ~4.8m gold after buying the permit)
1 / 1 Разрешение на разборки
32 / 20 Противоударная броня
77 / 50 Катастрофический конвертор
152 / 80 Жидкость для фар
204 / 200 Набор вертушек

(Addendum 1) Getting the most return value from your mountain of Груда ржавого металлолома:
Try making Сносно работающий кабельный дефибриллятор (but avoid flooding the market) if the profit will be more than 50g compared to the cost of mats.
Otherwise, Сортировка утиля generally returns about 4-5g in value per piece of scrap from proccing random parts and sellables (depending on AH sale prices).

(Addendum 2) Remember to value your time! 105k parts results in over 40 hours of in-game time spent purely crafting plus some ~8 hours of pilfering. And I spent even more of my time smelting thorium too. I lost count of the time lost to this mount.

Комментарий от Tacticool

The fact that this mount is listed for millions on the AH is mind-boggling. People are pretty nuts to expect that.

Комментарий от dadderz

Blizzard has lost its mind on this one. I get the idea of having a unique mount, but this is beyond the pale. It's hard enough making gold in War Within, but this, this is nuts.

Комментарий от TonySherwood

This mounts right hammer arm is missing model faces so you can see through it from behind. Fun little issue lol.

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