The problem with flying in vainila wow

Сообщение от Modibybob

How do you know what someone "would have said"? Are you a telepath?
You clearly have an issue with Azeroth ganking. Reroll / transfer.
Simple problem, simple solution.
I'm done here, as it's obvious this is a moderately-masked QQ

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Сообщение от Squishalot

Where have I disrespected people's opinions? Saying that people have been crying QQ and telling anyone who disagrees to GTFO? Can you tell me that people *haven't* said that? Sorry if you thought that that phrase was aimed directly at you, because it was a general statement to everyone who's essentially been qq'ing about people qq'ing.

I realise that Chilton is a lead designer. But you can take a comment from a designer and take it literally, which is what you and Modibybob and Hyperspacerebel have done, or you can look a bit deeper and see that he's not necessarily confident in his remarks.

Anyway, like Modibybob, I've given up trying to argue the point. Believe what you like, take things literally if you will. But ask yourself, if you were in charge of Blizzard, why would you want to create a game that doesn't encourage new players to join?

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Сообщение от xaratherus

The problem of ganking isn't going to be made worse due to flying mounts in Azeroth - it will be made worse because higher-level players will now have a much greater reason to be passing through Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms on a regular basis. They could have left out the flying part and you'd still have level 80s riding their epic non-flyers through the low-level part of the Barrens to try and get to a quest zone and "drive-by shanking" lowbies.

Again, I think the answer to this is, "If you don't want to put up with ganking, don't roll on a PvP server."

Сообщение от hymer

*to self* I'll give it a shot...

Being killed by a high level is not funny, and may detract from your gaming experience. It can be tolerated to different degrees by different people. Will high levels killing low levels occur more after flying becomes available in Azeroth? Probably, at least for a while.
So, what we're talking about here: Some people are sufficiently annoyed by gankers (taken to mean high lvls killing low lvls) that they complain when ganking is about to go up. Isn't that perfectly fair and above board?
Other people are suggesting an obvious solution: Reroll or get a transfer. Isn't that just being helpful?

Why are we fighting over this issue? Blizzard has stated that this will be part of the PvP realm experience. If you want to change that, then Wowhead isn't the place to post. But isn't it okay to air your grievance? Isn't it ok to suggest a solution?

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1. Get ganked on a PvP server.
2. Transfer to a PvE server.
3. ?
4. Profit.

LOL..> I love these posts that end in "profit". Reminds me of the Priceless credit card commercials lol....

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Сообщение от LordHiccup

You know what I do when I get ganked? I get over it and realize that this is the price I pay to be on a server where Horde and Alliance aren't holding hands and skipping through the flowers together.

If the 80 is still there when I reach my body, I make a sandwich/play a console game for a bit/read something/don't sit there moaning about it.

^ this

Seriously, being ganked is part of being on a PvP server. I personally don't mind it, in fact, I just wave at an Alliance player when I see one and go on my merry way. If they attack me, I fight back if I feel like fighting, or if I don't feel like fighting, I stand perfectly still while they attack. One quick corpse run later, if they're still there I get up and do something else for about 30 minutes. They're always gone by then.

If you don't like getting into PvP happens on PvP servers, if you don't like it then

Why did you roll on a PvP server in the first place?
If you hate it that much, then just transfer to a PvE server, we won't miss your whining.

Edit: Fixed a spelling mistake.

Сообщение от Squishalot

Remember, there's often truth in jest. For example, even if he made that quote in a slightly joking manner (I'm not sure if he did, I've only seen it as text), chances are he's being serious - however if people opposed to the new amounts of heavy World PvP are saying he implies everyone who doesn't like it should transfer, he could easily say he's joking or wasn't serious.

Fair point, and I can see that happening in the future. I haven't seen the video of him saying it, I've only seen it in text as well, but it doesn't bear the hallmarks of him being confident about that being Blizzard's official response to the ganking question. Perhaps I'm reading too much into it, but considering the emphatic responses to a lot of other questions, I was expecting something more solid to suggest that they're happy with the ganking, rather than just putting up with it because they don't have a solution.

Reporter: President, how do you feel about the citizens of Afghanistan, since more are likely to die in future conflicts?
President: Well... they could just avoid being around the terrorists when we bomb them?

It's not ideal, but we don't have a better solution at this point in time.

And again, I'm all for more World PvP, but more along the guidelines that I was saying before. Bring back the old days of penalties for ganking, and that will probably encourage more even-level PvP, as would-be gankers find someone else to beat up on.

Edit: I know that people are saying that if someone's ganking you, just leave and come back half an hour later. Unfortunately, RL's not always as accomodating, especially for the working class (damn, I miss studying!). On the one hand, you don't want to give up honest-to-goodness World PvP, but on the other hand, you don't want to waste what little gaming time you have being ganked at lower levels. Have they started allowing PvE -> PvP server transfers?

The problem with flying in vainila wow

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