[PTR 3.2] The new Devastate

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Сообщение от Porcell

Yes, it will likely go live.

Yes, it's a nice boost to tank damage.

Yes, I'm sure it will be helpful in increasing the damage done by Prot PvPers.

Tanking wise, it will not change our priority. Shield Slam and Revenge will both still do more damage. No, switching to a slow 2.6 will not be advisable because a huge amount of our boss threat/damage comes from Heroic Strike.

Concussive Blow and Shockwave will still do more damage than Devastate, but I've personally never been one to drop Devastates for CB/Shock. I'd much rather use that fourth GCD to try and proc Sword and Board (even though it's just for the rage savings and doesn't really affect the CD).

Сообщение от Arideni

I think the fact it doesn't get used as much as say, Shield Slam, makes it a more viable way for us to regain some of the lost damage from the Shield Block changes. Who knows?

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Сообщение от Argg0

Yes, it does. It was changed exactly for that reason (No 2h Devastates).

Сообщение от Porcell

Yes, it does. It was changed exactly for that reason (No 2h Devastates).

Well, it has always required a one handed weapon, so you've never been able to use a two-hander with devastate.

What the shield requirement does is make it so you can't dualwield fury with this strong instant attack. In the beta the top DPS warrior spec was a Dualwield Devastate fury build (Devastate was 70% or 80% weapon damage in the beta).

Сообщение от skumbananer

New pve dps-specc?

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#LIr00fZhxZrIzrxckibIzsh:cdhmzM

Imagine it with 2 pieces of tank t7 and 2 pieces of tank t8, wielding a high damage 2,5+ speed, rest plate dps gear with loads of strength, some 25%+ crit, hit capped and soft expertise capped, in battlestance fully raid-buffed just shieldslamming and devastating away at some scary boss.

I am so gonna specc that.

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Сообщение от Porcell

Would taking T7 and T8 prot pieces in that DPS setup be worth it? Probably not. 10% crit on Devastate and 10% damage on shield slam going to be worth giving up the real DPS stats that would come from those slots?

Also, I'd assume you would want battle stance for this. Improved Defensive Stance is double worthless; you aren't in defensive stance and you won't be dodge/block/parrying anyway. Imp. Revenge is wasted as well.

A prot DPS spec just isn't going to work. Too many wasted talent points, not enough returns.

On the PTR I can do about 2100 DPS in full DPS gear (albeit with my 1.6 speed Shiver), and slightly less than that using T7 Helm/Gloves (Block Value, Hit, Expertise) and T8 Legs/Shoulders (Block Value, Expertise). Of course the tanking pieces are gemmed for tanking, so regemming would yield some improvement.

Devastates were around 1600 normal and 3400 crits with around 50% crit rate. Shield Slams were 2550 normal and 5650 crits with around 28% crit rate.

Will it be better than Arms or Fury? Probably not. I think you'd get much the same results just taking the normal 15/5/51 prot build and slapping DPS gear on.

[PTR 3.2] The new Devastate

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