By the Book: Naming your pet in Dwarven, Thalassian, and others.

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UPDATE: Finally working on the Draenish section. Thanks to those who got me stickied, it's my first.

First of all: two disclaimers.

FIRST: Some of these words are guesses. Some may be guesstimates and educated guesses, and some are just total assumptions. Do not attempt to speak with actual dwarves/elves/trolls/orcs/draenei using the language proposed here.

SECOND: Due to the Well of Eternity and it's affect on the elven language (which is obviously related to Zandali), Zandali, Thalassian, Dwarven, and Darnassian are all fairly closely related. Therefore, I will list them together. Hemet Nessingwary, a dwarf, naming his prey, a cat, as "Sin'dall", which contains at least one very well known elven word, means that the languages can and do overlap, especially through the very basic words we know. However, Orcish is obviously a totally separate language, which is also thankfully related to Draenish. Due to the Draenei being descended from Eredar, and the Orcs' corruption by such, both tongues have an element of Eredun in them, so naming your pet in either language is not recomended if you don't want to accidentally name your pet after a demon.

Let's start with the Elven/Dwarven/Troll mixture I'll from here on out call "Azerothian". This is not a viable term, and is only valid in the contents of this document.

Key: (E) = Elven (Darnassian or Thalassian), (D) = Dwarven, (T) = Zandali. This is important for grammar later on.

Zaram: Blade. (E)
Sin: Blood, Bloodline. (E)
Daroth: Cliff. (E)
Thandol: Canyon. (D)
Dach, Draig: Dragon. (D)
Talah: Death. (E)
Atal: Devotion, Honor. (T)
Kaz: Death. (T)
Morogh: Earth, Land. (D)
Thori: Fury, Anger. (E)
Gar: Giant, Big, Large. (D)
Loa: God (in a polytheistic pantheon, mind you). (T)
Owyn: Grotto. (E)
Vendel: Help. (E)
Dun: Home. (D)
Quel: High, Noble, Important. (E)
Cyfaill: Heart. (D)
Argol: Ice, Frost, Cold. (D)
Lithien: Lodge. (E)
Kim: Little. (E)
Lorn: Land. (D)
Nahak: Leopard. (T)
Jin: Leader. (T)
Eranu: Memory. (E)
Modan: Mountain, Peak, Summit. (D)
Garok: North. (D)
Tyr: Order. (D)
Ai: Ones, Group. (T)
Algaz: Pass. (D)
Ronae: Peace. Ron when compounded. (E)
An: Power, Ley, Magic. (E)
Bael: Red. (D)
Mandar: Spring. (D)
Belore: Sun. (E)
Loque: Spotted. (T)
Kal: Stars. Plural is Dal. (E)
Lun: Serpent. (T)
Kah: Totem. (T)
Falor: True. (E)
Aran: Town, Village. (E)
Telas: Valley. (E)
Baldar: Valley. (D)
Quetz: Winged. (T)
Shorel: Woods, Forest. (E)
Fon: Wanderer. (T)

Also, note a negation (Elven and Zandali negations to follow):
Naz: Generic negative. Can be used to negate other words, or as Nhaza on it's own. (D)

Phew. That's a lot of words. It should be noted that most of the languages add something to a word when it stands alone:

Dwarven: If the word ends in a "rough" consonant, simply add a second, as in Gar becomes Garr. If the word ends in a vowel, add either an R, T, P, D, B, or K. If it ends in a "soft" consonant, add a vowel and one of the above letters. Morogh becomes Moroghad, for example.

Troll: Zandali is an extremely flexible language, with very few rules governing its grammar. It does, however, use a masculine/feminine suffix. Zul becomes Zulo for Great One (Male) or Zula (Female). Words that end in a vowel remain unchanged.

Elven: Elven is a complex language. Due to the inability to put apostrophes in pet names, you should generally just leave the words alone. If, by some miracle, we are able to put said apostrophes in our pet names, the suffixes 'a (mine) , 'e (his/hers) , 'o (yours), 'i (ours), and 'u (theirs) refer to possession in non-compound names.

-----Draenish Section Coming Soon-----

-----Finalizing Your Name/Random Name Generator Coming Soon---

We'll go with an old standby: the initial method. Take the first letters of yout first and last name, and match them up using this chart.

A: Zaram: Blade. (E)
B: Sin: Blood, Bloodline. (E)
C: Daroth: Cliff. (E)
D: Thandol: Canyon. (D)
E: Dach, Draig: Dragon. (D)
F: Talah: Death. (E)
G: Atal: Devotion, Honor. (T)
H: Kaz: Death. (T)
I: Morogh: Earth, Land. (D)
J: Thori: Fury, Anger. (E)
K: Gar: Giant, Big, Large. (D)
L: Loa: God (in a polytheistic pantheon, mind you). (T)
M: Owyn: Grotto. (E)
N: Vendel: Help. (E)
O: Dun: Home. (D)
P: Quel: High, Noble, Important. (E)
Q: Cyfaill: Heart. (D)
R: Argol: Ice, Frost, Cold. (D)
S: Lithien: Lodge. (E)
T: Kim: Little. (E)
U: Lorn: Land. (D)
V: Nahak: Leopard. (T)
W: Jin: Leader. (T)
X: Eranu: Memory. (E)
Y: Modan: Mountain, Peak, Summit. (D)
Z: Garok: North. (D)

A: Tyr: Order. (D)
B: Ai: Ones, Group. (T)
C: Algaz: Pass. (D)
D: Ronae: Peace. Ron when compounded. (E)
E: An: Power, Ley, Magic. (E)
F: Bael: Red. (D)
G: Mandar: Spring. (D)
H: Belore: Sun. (E)
I: Loque: Spotted. (T)
J: Kal: Stars. Plural is Dal. (E)
K: Lun: Serpent. (T)
L: Kah: Totem. (T)
M: Falor: True. (E)
N: Aran: Town, Village. (E)
O: Telas: Valley. (E)
P: Baldar: Valley. (D)
Q: Quetz: Winged. (T)
R: Shorel: Woods, Forest. (E)
S: Fon: Wanderer. (T)
T: Jin: Leader. (T)
U: Owyn: Grotto. (E)
V: Talah: Death. (E)
W: Daroth: Cliff. (E)
X: Dach, Draig: Dragon. (D)
Y: Gar: Giant, Big, Large. (D)
Z: Nahak: Leopard. (T)

Garokron. Northpeace. Interesting.

Well, I hope this was helpful to you. And yes, I realize the average ~~hunter~~ Deathtard ~~either doesn't know they can name their pet or plans to name it~~ wishes they could name their stupid ghoul OwnSauce, PwnUreFace, ChuckNorris, or something else equally stupid. Thanks for reading.

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I realize the average hunter either doesn't know they can name their pet or plans to name it OwnSauce, PwnUreFace, ChuckNorris, or something else equally stupid. Thanks for reading.

i resent that remark. the average hunter (huntard) rerolled NEdk.

While your capitalization, spelling, and grammar makes me wince, fix'd.

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This was actually pretty cool though I'm mostly satisfied with my pets names Jinno, Madlib, and Jeru.

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Yeah definitely very cool, even if you're not on an RP server... I also concur with ArgentSun in that you should alphabetize your list by English word for easier reference. Keep it up, I'd love to see more!

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I am looking forward to seeing this list complete :)

You might also want to consider organizing the list alphabetically, based on the English spelling of the words, so people can look for something specific they want.

Well, this list was sort of throw together, so that's probably a good idea.

UPDATE: It's now quasi-alphabetized, but not totally finished. I'll get to that later today.

EDIT: Oh, and the language of the dwarves is Dwarven.

I remember it being called Dwarvish somewhere, perhaps the RPG. Nonetheless, good point. *fixes*

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Very creative. I'm thoroughly impressed. Cought my attention and I don't doubt it will catch others. Keep up the work. I hope to see the finished result soon.

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Nice... I believe this deserves a sticky (however in my opinion it should be sorted a little more, and if possible have more options). By the way, I have a link where you could find some elven: Lament of the Highborne. I'll let you rummage through that book yourself, I think you deserve the credit of having made this yourself entirely. I'll go look up other sources for you too.

EDIT: I might as well show you this too. some words can be guessed I think. Also, you should refer to Wowwiki for some other words. You may have already. I'm not sure.

I'm definitely not ready for this to be stickied yet. Alphabetization is kinda wonky, I've definitely missed some important words, and I'm probably going to contact the several Thalassian dictionary creators and see if I can include their works.

LotH simply doesn't have enough words per line for a word-to-word translation. I'd need to know the grammar for that, and that brings me back to the Thalassian dictionary.

I didn't realize there was a readable filter, though. Thanks!

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Didn't know Loque'Nahak was named by Dwarves. o.0

He wasn't. There's a (T) next to the name.

Thanks for the input, though!

Also, if anyone could answer this question for me: why is there a bell next to this thread? Did I do something bad? Is the Wowhead Secret Poast Police coming to get me?

*quiver*

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