Burning Crusade Classic Raid Adjustments Discussion

TBC Posted 2021/11/15 at 12:51 PM by Rokman

Blizzard previously said they would be nerfing the contentchanging their mind

Hello!We’re still discussing this and looking at options from a design perspective. We haven’t made any decisions yet, and we won’t be making any changes of this sort in the next week.Please feel free to continue the discussion, as your feedback is highly valuable to us.Thank you.

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Comment by contrerasvivancoplease don't adjust until next phase, thank youComment by GoldpawWe could kill these bosses in TBC, people can kill them now. Nerf it, and they're only proving that modern gamers... are worse. :)Comment by thesandman87I wish they would, already 10/10, wouldn't mind a faster clear while we farm gear for Phase 3Comment by OmeqaThe solution to faster clears is to improve as a raid team, not relying on nerfs. Enjoy the content while its here doesn't have to be all about farming gear for the next phase.Comment by XathianWe could kill these bosses in TBC, people can kill them now. Nerf it, and they're only proving that modern gamers... are worse. :)Comment by holanderplease don't adjust until next phase, thank youComment by MoltarrWe could kill these bosses in TBC, people can kill them now. Nerf it, and they're only proving that modern gamers... are worse. :)Comment by BeannaLol these bosses were massively overtuned and didn't even function properly in this state until 2.1. Keep wondering why your server is emptying out as people quit, WoW players are too ego driven to figure out reality.post-nerfsComment by munkie5150We could kill these bosses in TBC, people can kill them now. Nerf it, and they're only proving that modern gamers... are worse. :)Comment by munkie5150We could kill these bosses in TBC, people can kill them now. Nerf it, and they're only proving that modern gamers... are worse. :)Comment by EnglishTeaI hope Blizz nerf the raid. The server pop seems to be diving and I think it's b/c a lot of casual guilds, w/ rogues and dps warriors, are fed up with being unable to kill the last 2 bosses.Comment by BelezibubThe raids are already easy so if nerfing them keeps the player count high Im fine with it. Maybe give some warning on when the nerfs will happen to give guilds still progging the ability to give one last effort before the patch. Ultimately this will have little impact on me other than making Vashj a little less annoying.Comment by LightingfistWCL isnt accurate whatsoever. Theres plenty of "guilds" that are 10/10 that are registered as 3+ guilds or raid teams and WCL sees them each as 1 unique guild. In fact i know first hand 8 guilds on Pagle US have 10/10 yet WCL lists over 50 that are 10/10. Most of the issue stems from people uploading logs wrong. Reality is pre-nerf vashj and kael can be done yes, but require a specific comp (class wise) and ridiculous consumables/work arounds (nets, dire maul seedlings, target dummies, weak auras, living action potions to name a few) and thats stacked ontop of the RNG that can wipe even the most seasoned of raid teams. The nerfs these bosses got made them killable for the raid teams that didnt have the "right" class/spec needed to normally kill them. They where still very difficult even after nerfs and it was shown during TBC when a massive portion of the playerbase was still trying to kill them when BT/Hyjal released while the top guilds had already cleared hyjal and most of BTComment by VulchurNerf trash, not bosses. Raid teams that have not achieved 10/10 are capable of reaching their goal, they just don't have the time in the window to do so. When historically TK trash is harder than the bosses. If they're still unable to clear, let's say a month and a half later. Then nerf the bosses.Comment by munkie5150WCL isnt accurate whatsoever. Theres plenty of "guilds" that are 10/10 that are registered as 3+ guilds or raid teams and WCL sees them each as 1 unique guild. In fact i know first hand 8 guilds on Pagle US have 10/10 yet WCL lists over 50 that are 10/10. Most of the issue stems from people uploading logs wrong. Reality is pre-nerf vashj and kael can be done yes, but require a specific comp (class wise) and ridiculous consumables/work arounds (nets, dire maul seedlings, target dummies, weak auras, living action potions to name a few) and thats stacked ontop of the RNG that can wipe even the most seasoned of raid teams. The nerfs these bosses got made them killable for the raid teams that didnt have the "right" class/spec needed to normally kill them. They where still very difficult even after nerfs and it was shown during TBC when a massive portion of the playerbase was still trying to kill them when BT/Hyjal released while the top guilds had already cleared hyjal and most of BTComment by klausdieterNerf trash, not bosses. Raid teams that have not achieved 10/10 are capable of reaching their goal, they just don't have the time in the window to do so. When historically TK trash is harder than the bosses. If they're still unable to clear, let's say a month and a half later. Then nerf the bosses.Comment by llxheartlessxllI find it funny that the people that are crying out against the nerfs are the people that are not clearing or speed running. This content is grueling to get through and the consumable requirement is high with an already degusting economy on most servers. Most people that are clearing the content want it nerfed.Comment by JaigarLol these bosses were massively overtuned and didn't even function properly in this state until 2.1. Keep wondering why your server is emptying out as people quit, WoW players are too ego driven to figure out reality.post-nerfsComment by zequillClassic TBC is giving me the full experience, even the part that I feel like I have to quit my job to clear raids, feeling that I didn't had even while clearing Naxx in classic. I suppose the no-life are having a lot of fun.Comment by BearpewpewuNerf trash hp and phase 3 vashj. Vashj should of been fixed week 1. Even doing it now is too late, you've almost killed the game for any average Guild that runs off meta comp and battles the roster boss every week. The majority of subs are casuals that aren't on these forums to post their opinion, put out a survey if you want real data. Just release phase 3 now, phase 2 is a writeoff. What a clown fiesta

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