All Tank Threat Buffed by 18% in Patch 9.2.5

Live Posted 2022/05/31 at 2:12 AM by Squishei

class tuning18% buffBlood Death Knight

Effect #1 Effect #9 Apply Aura: Mod Threat
Value: 450550

Vengeance Demon Hunter

Effect #1 Effect #1 Apply Aura: Mod Threat
Value: 450550

Guardian Druid

Effect #1 Effect #1 Apply Aura: Mod Threat
Value: 450550

Brewmaster Monk

Effect #1 Effect #12 Apply Aura: Mod Threat
Value: 450550

Effect #1 Apply Aura: Mod Threat
Value: 450550

Protection Paladin

Increases your threat generation while active, making you a more effective tank.
Effect #1 Effect #1 Apply Aura: Mod Threat
Value: 450550

Protection Warrior

Effect #1 Effect #4 Apply Aura: Mod Threat
Value: 450550

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Comment by KhondaqSeriously a flat 18% buff on the threat multiplier was probably the worst way to fix the tank threat issue.

Protpals, Warriors, Brewmasters and especiallly VDHs dont have any threat issues in m+. Giving them another 18% on top means they can severly fail their rotation and still keep threat, which shouldnt be the case. Bdks and Bears however just lack in offcooldown AoE dps. That needs to be solved instead of just buffing tank threat in general.

The second and even more troublesome issue - tanks loosing threat to other tanks because of a wide output range between specs - is not adressed at all. As a vdh or bear its a pain in the butt to keep st threat against the remaining tankspecs. Again, this could be solved by just upping their output to match what theyre up against.Comment by DesdamonaI hope this will make us keep threat in open world against tanking pet.
Nothing sadder than seeing your aggro lost to a damn turtle or bear.Comment by ToranchWhy did they even nerf threat to begin with? Everything was fine but for SL they massively nerfed tank's ability to hold threat.at allComment by SleepyodinYou ran the 450 and the 550 backwards in the equation. 450->550 is a 22.2% threat increase not 18%.Comment by DotOrgI don't think it's enough. Blizzards rationale is that 'tanks should be able to hold aggro on their main target', but that was rarely the issue. It's that you want to do 10+ mob pulls in dungeons, but this still will not make you hold aggro. Maybe a targeted buff to the threat generated by each tanks AoE spell (like Throw Glaive or Heroic Throw) would solve the issue (or a stronger buff to overall aggro generation.Comment by readiitThis is a considerable rotational change for Fury Warriors.

Its opener in M+ is no longer Charge --> Release SpiritComment by BigsmurphAccording to the datamined text (450 to 550) this is a 22% increase.Comment by zolphinusStill not enough for levelers. A fresh new lvl 10 arcane mage can steal aggro with 2 arcane blasts hits from most lvl 20+ tanks. A lvl 40+ tank is going to have a bad time with low lvls in his team.
Perhaps it's better to bring back the threat system from legion.Comment by zolphinusYou ran the 450 and the 550 backwards in the equation. 450->550 is a 22.2% threat increase not 18%.Comment by zolphinusWhy did they even nerf threat to begin with? Everything was fine but for SL they massively nerfed tank's ability to hold threat.at allComment by NiccoloMI remember a time when threat management is a legit skill required of dps players.

Now they just want tanks to have infinite threat.Comment by lovelywazI think we need a brand new "Onyxia Wipe Animation" about how NOT to pull threat off your tanks. Since Legion, where Blizz buffed tank threat by like 1000x as mentioned above, DPS got used to going all out on pulls and even tho Blizz reduced that threat multiplier quiet a bit in BfA, it was still not a huge issue since Blizz buffed threat again during BfA when needed.

As they say, old habits die hard! most of the DPS still wanna unload on pulls and one of the biggest reason for that is of course they are staring at their damage meters while smashing keyboard to see numbers go up and up, fast and faster. This issue is mostly in random pugs since your regular friends/guildies that you team up with for pushing keys know how to play well together. Those regular groups mostly also happen to have a MD class in the group and threat on pulls become a non issue.

I've seen myself while tanking on two different classes in random pugs, even a well geared high io score Hunter or Rogue simply don't bother using MD on tanks. Not to mention a certain melee classes (guess who) go all out on pull tunnling the same melee mob (and not bothering with caster mobs interrupts) and then complain about getting smashed by that melee mob.

Again, threat issue is mostly in random pugs only where sometimes a higher geared/skilled/io DPS who wanna do their weekly vault fillers AS FAST AS THEY CAN, regardless of how is rest of the group specially tank or healer. Increasing threat multiplier is a band-aid fix, which is good but, the main issue is player's behavior and how they play.

Some of the DPS really need that new Onyxia Wipe Animation 😉Comment by MorthedubiYou ran the 450 and the 550 backwards in the equation. 450->550 is a 22.2% threat increase not 18%.Comment by jthm91update: the threat buff didn't really do much they need 50% more or something I'm still eating thru threat

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