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Post by
MegaVolt
535 is enough for heroics.
You are missing enchants and your gear is not really awesome both it is more then good enough to easily walk through heroics. Your healer / dps just sucked.
Post by
Dunsinane
About the only thing that makes me cringe is that you're 0/2 Spiritual Attunement.
There are a lot of upgrades for you gear-wise, obviously, but it's just as obvious that you aren't a raiding progression tank. You're fine for heroics. Sounds like you just ran into people who don't tank and don't know much about tanking.
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ShriekXL
Hello!
I was recently in a group with a so so good healer and average dps:ers. I have done many heroics in the past and with great success. Maby I have been lucky enough to get into good groups but I consider myself a good tank.
I know I dont have the best gear out there but good enough for some heroics.
Either way this group blamed me for the wipes and told me 536 defense was not enough for heroics, I needed at least 540. Which I know for a fact is wrong. Then people left and myself and one dps warrior stayed behind, got a new healer and dps and we did great. No problems.
Here is my armory:
http://www.armory-light.com/eu/Doomhammer/Anoponi/
Can you see something strange with either my gear or my spec that makes me a bad tank. I have some stuff that needs to be replaced but overall, was the group right about me?
Thanks!
I wouldn't worry about people like that. I had a similar experience today. I have quite the lowbie gear. Just started out, basically. I have some good things on me, but I have a long way to go still. Anyway, apparantly, 24k health isn't enough for Nexus HC? Or so our shaman healer claimed. I do have 540 defense (Although unintentional xD). Anyway, he was getting grumpy and told us we would fail, blablabla. He didn;'t leave, though. Convinced him to stay and stick with it.
We did a run with no deaths or wipes, none of us broke a sweat ever. I was happy, showed him a thing or two.
People tend to forget the early days when they started out themselves. If others had stated what they are doing now back then, no one would ever be doing Heroics, let alone raids?
Post by
Lorkin
Well you mentioned that you wiped a few times, and you're geared enough for heroics. You didn't mention anything about aggro issues. Did you have any problems with holding aggro?
Post by
pezz
I wouldn't worry about people like that. I had a similar experience today. I have quite the lowbie gear. Just started out, basically. I have some good things on me, but I have a long way to go still. Anyway, apparantly, 24k health isn't enough for Nexus HC? Or so our shaman healer claimed. I do have 540 defense (Although unintentional xD). Anyway, he was getting grumpy and told us we would fail, blablabla. He didn;'t leave, though. Convinced him to stay and stick with it.
I hit 80 just a week or so after the expansion came out. Having 24k health back then was pretty desirable in a heroics tank.
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Post by
Quest
Complete role of a tank in two words:
Control Aggro
Post by
Bloodspeaker
To the OP
The role of a tank is very very simple. Get threat, be tough enough to survive. Thats pretty much all you have to do.
When i started tanking heroics i had about 21k hps. The reason that shammie said you didn't have enough is that, with all the conquest gear and offspecs flying around these days, most people will run dungeons as crappy dps'ers rather that just suck it up and tank from minute one. They do it to get badges to buy gear. They wind up starting out with about 28-30k hp's and no idea whatr they are doing. I salute anyone who actually says 'Nope, not doing that. i'm gonna tank!'
With respect to your gear, you seem to be doing alright. Theres some pretty good tanky shoulders in Gundrak Hc.
As a side note, does anyone else find it odd that healers are more powerful than ever but they demand better and better tanks for their runs? Shouldn't they be able to keep worse tanks alive than before now? My dk has been kicked from groups for having 'only' 26k hp's. My pally started running naxx10 with 26k hp's, many moons ago.
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Post by
valundar
To the OP
The role of a tank is very very simple. Get threat, be tough enough to survive. Thats pretty much all you have to do.
When i started tanking heroics i had about 21k hps. The reason that shammie said you didn't have enough is that, with all the conquest gear and offspecs flying around these days, most people will run dungeons as crappy dps'ers rather that just suck it up and tank from minute one. They do it to get badges to buy gear. They wind up starting out with about 28-30k hp's and no idea whatr they are doing. I salute anyone who actually says 'Nope, not doing that. i'm gonna tank!'
With respect to your gear, you seem to be doing alright. Theres some pretty good tanky shoulders in Gundrak Hc.
As a side note, does anyone else find it odd that healers are more powerful than ever but they demand better and better tanks for their runs? Shouldn't they be able to keep worse tanks alive than before now? My dk has been kicked from groups for having 'only' 26k hp's. My pally started running naxx10 with 26k hp's, many moons ago.
I actually beg the tanks to pull more and more and more so i don't fall asleep. (try to make heroics hard/fun like solo-healing icehowl or ony10 by way over-pulling)
26K health is more than enough for ANY heroic.
Regardless of healers gear.
All that will change is how long the run takes. Xfer to horde side Dragonmaw... ill heal ya!
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299264
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Post by
pezz
534 defense and 20k health? Find yourself a bored and overgeared healer and do heroics.
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Bloodspeaker
Xfer to horde side Dragonmaw... ill heal ya!
Kind of you to say, but i'm already horde side on Steamwheedle, and i generally love it here =)
I was just using that to illustrate how lazy some healers have gotten, despite their gear.
I also do every heroic in under half an hour and more often its about 20mins excepting UK. and CoS. They are faster.
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Quest
DPS slowly gathering tank gear till Heroics become a joke.
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