Short ICC Normal Tacts

Post by thymon

I am working on a relative short ICC guide, mainly for use in PuG's so i can explain the tactics fast and short in raid chat
This is still work in Progress (7/12 ICC Normal Done)

i would like to get some feedback on this since i have never done anything like this
here we go:

Lord Marrowgar
1, Move out of the Blue fire
2, Kill the Bone Spike's
3, Never stand in front of Marrowgar
4, Tanks should stack up on each other to share the Cleave Damage (Never turn Marrowgar towards the raid!)
5, Spread out on Bone Storm (not to far, healing has a maximum range)

Lady Deathwisper
1, Move out if Death and Decay (green pool of death)
2, Adds have highest priority
3, in Phase 2 run away from the ghosts, they hurt
4, Decurse whatever and whenever you can (DPS should decurse too if they can!)
5, Tanks: Phase 1, Tank the adds, no need to tank the boss now
6, Tanks: Phase 2, Tank the boss now, Taunt at 3 stacks of Touch of Insignificance

Gunship
1, Canoneers: kill the Rocketeers(A)/Mortars(H) in the back of the enemy ship
2, whenever there is a Mage out (cannons are ice blocked) melee dps should jump and kill the Mage
3, after the mage is dead: Jump Back!
4, Range kill Axetrowers(A)/Rifleman(H), Melee: kill adds on our ship
5, yes, really, ALL melee dps need to jump!
6, Tanks: one tank should stay on our ship at all times and tank the adds
7, Tanks: The other tank should jump whenever the mage comes out and tank High Overlord Saurfang(A)/Muradin Bronzebeard(H) on the edge near our ship, remember to jump back once all DPS have jumped back

Deathbringer Saurfang
1, stand at all times at a 12 yard range, type /range 12 if you use DBM
2, Range: Kill adds whenever you see them (they can be stunned/slowed) don’t get hit by them
3, Tanks/Melee DPS: try not to use attacks that hit multiple targets when there are adds up (IE: Maul, Hearth Strike, Cleave)
4, Healers: Heal people that get Mark of the Fallen Champion (Marked people take heavy constant damage until Saurfang is dead, do not Combat Res Marked people since the mark persists trough death)
5, Tanks: Taunt when the Tanking tank gets the Debuff: Rune of Blood

Rotface
1, Do not stand in the Green Slime
2, Do not stand in the Slime Spray (its Rotface Puke, Really don’t stand in it)
3, When you have Mutated Infection run to the Kiting Tank
4, When you have a Small Ooze hitting you run to the kiting Tank and Merge the small one with another small one or a Big Ooze
5, Small Oozes CANT be tanked, so wait with the kiting tank until the Small Ooze Merge's with another small one or a Big Ooze
6, Do not Attack the Ooze's they explode and die without help, when they Explode move to a spot none was standing at the time of the explosion with a 6 Yards range
7, Wait 2-3 seconds before dispelling Mutated Infection
8, Tanks: one tank has to tank Rotface in the middle of the room, the other tank needs to Kite the Big Ooze around the room (try not to get hit! Try not to kite the Big Ooze trough the raid since it has an AoE damage aura)

Festergut
1, Range/Healers: Stand at a 8 yard range of each other
2, Gas Spore: 2 random people get a Gas Spore, This is a GOOD buff, everyone should stand near the one with it (it has an 8 yard radius)
2, Gas Spore: one of the people with the Spore should be in the Melee Group and one in the Range Group (Range/Healers CAN and should stack up at this point)
2, Gas Spore: If there are 2 Spores in the Range or 2 in the Melee Group one of them should move towards the group that doesn’t have a Spore
3, Tanks: Taunt when the Tanking tank has 8 Stacks of Gastric Bloat

Professor Putricide
General
1, Do NOT dispel the tank that is going in the Abomination
2, Move out of the green slime
3, Green Ooze: Everyone should start Nuking as soon as it spawns
3, Green Ooze: Targets one player (with a green beam, Targeted player can’t move), Stack up on that player and Nuke the Ooze, you will get knocked back but the damage is shared with everyone that stacked up
3, Green Ooze: after getting knocked back repeat (move to targeted player, nuke, boom, repeat - etc. etc.)
4, Orange Ooze: Range should start Nuking it as soon as it spawns, Melee should start nuking as soon as it targets someone
4, Orange Ooze: Targets one player (with a red beam, Targeted player Must move), Nuke the Ooze down, Targeted player shouldn’t get hit by the ooze, Meaning he should kite it

Abomination
1, if there are green puddles, go stand on them and spam Eat Ooze (button 1?) you generate Energy with this
2, If there is a Orange or Green Ooze around slow them with Regurgitated Ooze (button 3?) Red Ooze has Priority over the green one, this costs 45 Energy try to manage it so you can always slow the Red Ooze
3, if there is NO slime on the floor and the Ooze is slowed you can help DPS abit with Mutated Slash (button 2?) (if there is a Ooze attack that one and not the Professor) Attacking doesnt cost Energy
4, Slowing has highest priority, Eating slime comes Second and doing Damage has the lowest priority

Phase 1
1, Same as General

Phase 2
1, Same as General + the following
2, Do not stand on the Orange veils on the floor
3, Do not stand in Malleable Goo (this is a green ooze Professor throws at a player, it has a AoE effect which slows casting by 200%)

Phase 3
1, Do not stand in the green Slime
2, Do not stand on the Orange veils on the floor
3, Do not stand in Malleable Goo (this is a green ooze Professor throws at a player, it has a AoE effect which slows casting by 200%)
4, Nuke the Boss down
5, Tanks: Kite the Professor around the room (not to fast) to avoid getting hit by the Orange veils and getting caught up in slime and Taunt when the Tanking tank has 2 stacks of Mutated Plague more than you (so taunt at 2-2-4-4 stacks)

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Post by thymon

did you read the first sentence peekatyou?
it is for use in PuG's and i thought it might be usefull for more PuG Leaders

Post by Varaconn

I didn't read everything, but for the sake of professionalism, I would try and rewrite, or revise, the Gunship section to be faction-neutral. A new horde player, for example, may get confused looking for an Axe-thrower to kill, as the alliance NPCs are Riflemen.

Anyway, with some cleaning up, I support this idea. It's kind of like a pocket-guide. Good idea to give some quick reference for little things to remind/instruct a raid about.

Also on Gunship, when I tank the other Commander, once all DPS have jumped back, I typically backpeddle off the ship to help prevent the chance of getting hit by a Rending Throw. (Not a huge deal, but if you can avoid it, you might as well.)

For Deathbringer, I think it's worth demonstrating the fact that anyone with Mark of the Fallen Champion will likely require very dedicated healing, as it causes quite a bit of damage. (As opposed to the current note, which makes it seem like they'll just need a heal here and there.)

On the Putricide section, I would add/make the following adjustments:

Going in to phase 3, make sure no oozes are alive, ie stop DPSing the boss until any existing ooze is dead (people shouldn't really be attacking the boss anyway,) or if an ooze may spawn before 35%, stop DPS and wait for the ooze.

As far as I know, the Abomination player automatically reverts to normal form going into phase 3, so no one has to dispel him/her.

Tanks should be kiting the boss around the edge of the room, moving the boss to stay away from ooze puddles and Choking Gas Potions (orange vials.) They should also be alternating tanking the boss so that the debuff he places on them (deals AoE damage to the raid) isn't able to stack too high. I'm not sure what the general suggestion is, but we usually do the first taunt at 3 stacks, then every stack after that.

Post by thymon

Thanks for the support Varaconn!
tried to revise the gunship section abit, not sure if its clear enough now

will work more on that and the other 5 bosses tonight and tommorow
it should be done after that

Also i would like to get some help on the english grammar since its not my first language

Thymon

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Post by Doring

Why spread out in bonestorm? Get out of fire, stay in range of healer, don't run around like a chicken with your head cut off. AOE damage mitigation abilities are good here.

On LDW, make sure the tanks have aggro on the adds, loose adds hurt.

Lootship, one tank jumps first, dps jump 1/2 second later, half your melee dps and have your range on the edge of the boat works better.

If a small ooze is attacking you, get the heck out of the rest of the raid. No, your DPS isn't that important, move your rear like now.

On Fester, all ranged stack at the door for a spore, all others under Fester/tanking Fester. Once the spore pops, ranged, move your rear to space back out.

Princes:
1. Attack prince with the red buff, they are the only one with health to attack
2. Get away from white balls that are about to explode and stay out of pulsing ball areas.
3. If you have a ranged attack, dot the white falling balls from time to time to keep them up.
4. If you are given ball duty, keep the balls in the air, no, hitting the bosses isn't better.
5. If you are not tanking the shadow boss, and you get a shadow orb, run to the guy tanking him so they can have it.
6. Target swap quickly to the new boss.
7. This fight is about staying alive, that is more important than toping meters.

OH, and the trash CAN and WILL kill you if you mess around and pull too much.

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Post by fuhrerschein

im just confused as to what the purpose of this is? i mean its a decent guide but youre gonna post this in pugs?

bottom line is if people dont know the fights at this point in an expansion, theyre not good players anyway... it takes about 5 whole minutes on this website to learn the basics of all the fights

but anyway in terms of the guide itself.. how descriptive are you trying to get? because i could offer some tips but you might wanna keep this as a short thing

basic tip: mention CC'ing in Lady D
advanced: for green slimes on PP, everyone should be on one side of the ooze, i.e. everyone should fly toward the middle.. reason is: if one person gets blasted to the outside and the green targets them next... theyre dead

edit: is this supposed to be for 10 or 25?

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Post by Varaconn

I viewed this more as a cliff notes, quick reminders thing, as opposed to a thorough walkthrough.

As for the data being already readily available -- yes, but it can be annoying to go through the comments sections, and the articles section is the opposite of what this is about. I think it's a good reference, I run with some great people, but some of them forget little things here and there, this would come in handy as a point-form reminder.

Just needs a bit more work.

Another thing for Putricide, something I read in the comments in the while back, the Abomination's Mutated Slash doesn't share a cooldown with any of the other abilities (namely drinking ooze.) So, what I try to do, is rotate Putricide and tank him right beside a puddle, so that the player in the Abomination can drop some slashes while still fulfilling his duty of drinking ooze.

Mutated Slash stacks a debuff similar to Sunder Armor, so if you have a good physical portion to your raid, it can really help. However, it should not be used if it'll somehow interfere with slowing and drinking. It's just a nice addition.

Post by pezz

I did do the slime tank once when my druid was still a tank, and yes, Mutated Slash is entirely off the GCD. If you're good at pressing a lot of buttons at once you can spam that on PP and still do all your other jobs just fine.

Post by Bawkxy

4, When you have a Small Ooze hitting you run to the kiting Tank and Merge the small one with another small one or a Big Ooze
5, Small Oozes CANT be tanked, so wait with the kiting tank until the Small Ooze Merge's with another small one or a Big Ooze

in bold please. i cannot emphasize how important these two points are, retards are running out then back in almost instantly ==" EVEN IN GUILD RAIDS.

Short ICC Normal Tacts

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