Old Hatreds - Baine Bloodhoof Questline in Patch 10.0.7 (Story Spoilers)

Posted 2023/02/24 at 8:00 AM by Neryssa

WARNING: Dragonflight story spoilers below! Continue at your own risk!Baine: I will wait here. I... prefer to avoid centaur camps. Difficult memories.
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Baine: Absolutely not! I will not have you following us like a watchdog!
Tomul: You don't want me here. I don't want to be here. But my khan commanded me to help you with this, and that is exactly what I am here to do.
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Tomul: Listen, two-foot. If you want to find your friends, you'll need me. I know the land and the people. So if you're done with your tantrum, let's go. I don't have all day.
Baine: Hmph. Fine. But make no mistake, centaur -- I'll be watching you.
Tomul: You can watch me leave for all I care. I have a job to do.Tomul: My clan had nothing to do with this...
Windtotem Survivor: Lies! If my arm were not broken, I would strike you down where you stand!
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Tomul: Since I'm not particularly welcome at the moment, I think I'll go help <player>.
Baine: You will go nowhere, centaur!
Baine: You will explain everything you know about this situation. And if I find you are lying to me, I want you close at hand.Koya Windtotem: My husband is... gone. My daughter will grow up without a father because of the centaur. Just as I did.
Ironhoof: This axe belonged to my friend Nawa. She would never willingly part with it. If you did not see a body, then chances are she may yet live.
Tam Windtotem: This necklace belongs to Bovan! I would lead a search party if I could, but we are in no condition to leave the village.
With Bovan missing, I act as the leader of the tauren here.
We have taken shelter at this abandoned village for now. But stay vigilant -- the centaur may attack at any time.
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> What is the history between the tauren and the centaur?

Long ago, centuries before Thunder Bluff and the Horde, we were nomads. We wandered Kalimdor in tribes, following the migration of kodo and other game.
Then the centaur poured out of Desolace like a flood. They ravaged the lands and fell upon us like a plague.
Over generations of war, the centaur sought our extermination. No peace. No mercy. Most centaur we met tried to kill us on sight.
Only with the arrival of the Horde were we able to defeat the centaur once and for all.
But we will never forget what the centaur did to us.
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> Why won't you let Tomul into the village?

During our time here, every centaur we have met has tried to do us harm. Many have been lost in these attacks.
This centaur may claim to want to help, but you understand why we must act out of an abundance of caution.
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> Why did the tauren come to the Ohn'ahran Plains?

The Windtotem have many differences from other tauren tribes. They remained nomads, and never settled in Mulgore. Another difference is their veneration of the wild god Ohn'ahra.
Recently, Bovan believed he received visions from Ohn'ahra. They showed the Windtotem traveling to a faraway land. After much discussion, the tribe decided to follow the visions.
When Bovan told Thunder Bluff of his intentions, some decided to join him.
It is still unclear what his vision meant. And with Bovan gone, we may never know.
Baine: Tagar, I will be going after Bovan. Tomul says she might have a lead on his whereabouts.
Tagar: Baine... she is a centaur. How can you trust that she is not leading you into a trap?
Baine: If she had wanted that, she could have done it already. She has sworn to help save Bovan, and thus far she has upheld the end of her bargain.
Tagar: She may not be an enemy, but the centaur are still unreliable and without honor. Perhaps she will help for now, but will she stand with you in your hour of greatest need?
Baine: I have no doubts. But I will give her the opportunity to dispell them. One way or another, we shall see what her words are worth. Farewell, my friend.
Tagar: Earthmother watch over you, Baine.
Tomul: It feels different... being back here.
Baine: Tomul. Was this your home?
Tomul: It was. Until the Nokhud launched a surprise attack and put it all to the torch. Now my home is gone and my people are scattered across the plains.
Baine: I... know how you feel. When I was young, I never had a place to call home. Home was where my people were.
Tomul: Then perhaps we have more in common than you thought. Come, let us take the tauren... home.
Boku: Oh Ohn'ahra, grant us your aid. Show us where we may find Bovan Windtotem!
Baine: Bovan! He looks badly hurt... who is that centaur with him?
Tomul: I was afraid of this. His name is Jamoku. He is a powerful Nokhud, an ally of the Primalists who leads a large army.
Tomul: It means your friend is in Nokhudon Hold. This mission has now become too dangerous for just us to handle. I must speak with Sansok Khan.
Baine: There is no time! Did you not see Bovan? We must reach him now!
Tomul: That place is the seat of Jamoku's power. We cannot rescue your friend alone against an army! It would be foolish to even try!
Baine: We can make our way in undetected! I have a few potions that will mask our presence. We have no time to find aid -- we must go now or Bovan will die!
Tomul: Even with those potions, the Nokhud wardogs will sniff us out in a second! I will not throw my life away for a lost cause!
Baine: So this is how you aid me? By fleeing at the first opportunity? Tagar was right! Your words are worth noting -- go then, coward!
Tomul trembles with rage and stomps on the ground.
Tomul: Fine! If you truly insist on getting yourself killed, I will not stop you!

Tagar: We are here together in the sight of the ancestors to honor our fallen. Bovan Windtotem, Karuul Windtotem, Borke of the Shikaar, and Joshi of the Shikaar.
Shikaar Ranger: Joshi was my mentor. Though strict and severe, he had a kind heart. He taught and cared for the orphans of the clan. I will carry out his legacy.
Shikaar Ranger: My sister Borke loved animals. She would nurse any injured animal back to health, whether bakar or ottuk. Her compassion will live on in me. This I promise.
Koya Windtotem: My husband Karuul filled our lives with silly jokes and laughter. I hear his voice in my daughter's laughter, and I will remember him always.
Baine: Bovan... my friend. He once rescued me from certain death. He asked for nothing in return. I live a life dedicated to courage, humility, and honor, because of him. I can never repay him. But I hope that my words and my deeds honor his memory, always.
Tagar: Honored ancestors, welcome our loved ones at your hearth. May their spirits know peace, their deeds be remembered, and their memories live on through us.

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Comment by DattofferOkay but do we get that totem mog or what ?Comment by mar10duOkay but do we get that totem mog or what ?Comment by SoifonThis is too tame. Lost opportunity on killing Tomul, a pity.Comment by ReciTerokkari cant believe they brought bovan back just to kill him off like thatComment by VynillinA barbecue at the end. Nice.Comment by PrimorisSo, the Tauren go to the Ohn'aran Plains because of a vision they saw from Ohn'ir and act @#$%ty towards all of the Centaur there because the Centaur in Kalimdor acted #$%^ty towards them? Baine wants peace between the Horde and Alliance so bad but is still racist towards Centaur lol.Comment by morgath99so baine didnt do squat again ?Comment by LostelfSo Baine, the Human simp who immigrated forgave and even justified Taurajho has a random hatred of Centaur who don’t even look like the ones his people have a history with? Is he really the right character for this?

This is honestly the worst writing all expansion… which is typical whenever the faction cast is around.Comment by HelloViviiBaine really acting like his kind hasn't been trying to kill me for years.

Or that one of the main bosses in this past raid, I've had to deal with is a Tauren. So by his logic I should hate him and all Taurens.

Ironhoof was really the only NPC there with some sense lol. Whoever is writing Baine's story is really terrible at this. Remember when the trolls where exiled from the horde that they had to land in Stormwind for help? Remember when the Undead killed other Undead?
Humans kill each other all the time. Mekkatorque's main rival was another Gnome. His line of thinking makes no sense after all this time, especially in a time of unity. ESPECIALLY if the MC is so trusted and renowned (no pun intended) that he should just believe that after spending all this time grinding REP, that these centaurs are the good guys.

Like come on, this is really bad writing on the base level.Comment by NazamberA barbecue at the end. Nice.Comment by NazamberSo Baine, the Human simp who immigrated forgave and even justified Taurajho has a random hatred of Centaur who don’t even look like the ones his people have a history with? Is he really the right character for this?Comment by LostelfSo Baine, the Human simp who immigrated forgave and even justified Taurajho has a random hatred of Centaur who don’t even look like the ones his people have a history with? Is he really the right character for this?Comment by ToviValdoraSo Baine, the Human simp who immigrated forgave and even justified Taurajho has a random hatred of Centaur who don’t even look like the ones his people have a history with? Is he really the right character for this?

This is honestly the worst writing all expansion… which is typical whenever the faction cast is around.Comment by PrimorisSo Baine, the Human simp who immigrated forgave and even justified Taurajho has a random hatred of Centaur who don’t even look like the ones his people have a history with? Is he really the right character for this?Comment by Dranlordi know is hard to comprehend why Baine will have such a deep hate for Centaure.

Centaurs aren't like Allaince or horde factions they are a race and they been hunting Tauren for all their history, to the point that Tauren went almost extinct.

His reaction isnt out of character, is actually well display how a race that been hunt all their history will act to another race that hunt them.

U guys that complain is bc you ignore what happen on RL. (dont wanna star a whole political/race war here) but this is just a reflection on what happen on real life.Comment by VibrissWhat is the significance of this quest line?

Dragon Isles centaur are different from Kalimdor centaur. Baine literally has no business being there. He is effectively going halfway across the world to harass people just because similar looking people bullied him when he was a child.

Like, what was the point of even going lengths to ensure that everyone understands how these new centaur are not the same as Kalimdor centaur, and then still acting like they are in everything.

Give Baine a break. This character is a mess. He hasn't contributed to the plot for the two last expansions he's appeared in, and he clearly has no business being in this one. Why are they forcing him so hard? He's not even a fan favourite, like Sylvanas was.Comment by Lostelfi know is hard to comprehend why Baine will have such a deep hate for Centaure.

Centaurs aren't like Allaince or horde factions they are a race and they been hunting Tauren for all their history, to the point that Tauren went almost extinct.

His reaction isnt out of character, is actually well display how a race that been hunt all their history will act to another race that hunt them.

U guys that complain is bc you ignore what happen on RL. (dont wanna star a whole political/race war here) but this is just a reflection on what happen on real life.Comment by des007Waste of time and data, great potential for a questline and its trashed like this.Comment by HelloViviii know is hard to comprehend why Baine will have such a deep hate for Centaure.

Centaurs aren't like Allaince or horde factions they are a race and they been hunting Tauren for all their history, to the point that Tauren went almost extinct.

His reaction isnt out of character, is actually well display how a race that been hunt all their history will act to another race that hunt them.

U guys that complain is bc you ignore what happen on RL. (dont wanna star a whole political/race war here) but this is just a reflection on what happen on real life.Comment by 2273380This is too tame. Lost opportunity on killing Tomul, a pity.

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