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Comentado por Monkec

beta test guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7vCSlW1mSU
(ru, with link to stream)

Comentado por 203799

Ja, they are here to pump (/clap) you up!

Comentado por wimbo125

Probably a reference to the recurring Saturday Night Live sketch "Pumping up with Hans & Franz", with several of their drops refering to their extreme muscularity and sports known for their muscular sportsmen, like the Giant Pumpers and the Tablet of Turnbuckle Teamwork.

Comentado por Tyrantor

They look pretty cute, but they are more than capable of using you as floor mops.

Comentado por 45047

I like the fact that the encounter is called Hans'gar and Franzok.
I bet that Heidi Klum wanted an encounter to be called as she named her boobs (yes, she named her boobs "Hans" and "Franz"). Whatever her reasons would be to have her *!@# perpetuated in WoW....

Comentado por 784734

this guy sounds like arnold swarchenegger
he even says "ill be back"

Comentado por TweFoju

My guild called them "The dudley boyz" due to the fact that their moves are all wrestling related to the Dudleys

Comentado por jetfire158

Normal & Heroic

This encounter is actually very simple. The bosses themselves have very few mechanics to deal with. That being said, the fight really boils down to the raid being able to stay on top of avoiding environmental mechanics, which can definitely take some getting used to. So without further ado, a summary of the encounter:

The bosses themselves.

Batida Corporal - Causes Vértebras Partidas and Tremor Secundário. Spread out, move away from the target. Don't get hit by it more than once.
Suplex Incapacitante - While these guys don't have a swap mechanic, tanks need to pay special attention to this. As of the current patch, you will need to pop a defensive CD before you are grabbed, because it will stun you. A boss encounter addon that will give you ample warning before this ability is cast is highly recommended.
Rugido Perturbador - Interrupts spell casting, so healers especially need to stop casting when this ability is activated.
Rachacrânios - Move away from the hammer if possible.
Elo de Sangue - Hans and Franz share a health pool, so be multi-dotting, etc.
Animado - The 'DPS race' aspect of the fight--the longer they are up, the harder it becomes to stay alive.

Environmental Threats

Placas Ardentes - These fiery plates will come out on the conveyor belts. They move very slowly and are easy to avoid. If you die to them, you are bad. Also, if you just stand on the narrow strips of terrain in between the belts, you will still get hit by the plates if one comes down the belt on either side of you, so you cannot simply stand in one spot.
Queimaduras Abrasadoras - You can't just stand on the belt and let yourself run into the wall. Fire will come out of it, and you will die.
Pulverizado - Sections of the belt will light up with a yellow-orange color before the presses come down. Move out of the animated area. Remember, the presses will not come down on the same place twice in a row. Therefore, run toward an area where the presses just came down last. Once again, you cannot simply stay on the strips in between the belts. If two stamps come down on either side of you, you will still be hit. If you are hit, you will be one-shot unless you are at 100% health though you will probably die if you are hit twice in a row on Heroic; however as of this point in time, Bênção de Proteção or Escudo Divino will make you immune to the damage. On the other hand Coibição unfortunately is useless against them.

There will be three 'environment' phases, each occurring shortly after Crippling Suplex is cast, and the belts begin moving. It is very useful here to zoom your camera all the way out, and begin watching for mechanics once the belts start rolling. The first phase will involve only the Searing Plates, the second will be Stamping Presses, and in the third both mechanics will appear simultaneously, although the plates will still come out first. Presumably this cycle will repeat itself, however they should be close to dead by the time the third round ends.

TL;DR

Tanks - Watch out for Suplex Incapacitante, and be sure to pop a CD before you are grabbed.
DPS - Stay out of effects from Batida Corporal, and be sure to multi-dot, etc.
Healers - Stop casting when Rugido Perturbador goes off.
All - Don't die to environmental mechanics.

Comentado por bossfight1

Looking at their loot tables, it just occurred to me;

They're in a room full of belts, so no pants ever drop.

Comentado por Foxpaw

This fight is amazing, and can be summarized in a single word.

*ahem* : DOOOOOOOOOODGE

Comentado por brownham

Franzok yells: Your bones will be crushed to dust! -- Saw V
Hans'gar yells: I'm going to take you DOWN! --this one could be anything, but I like to think its from Shoot to Thrill

Hans'gar yells: Ha! Quit... hitting yourselves!-- Ace Ventura
Franzok yells: Defenseless weakling!-- ?

Hans'gar yells: I'll be back! --The Terminator

Hans'gar yells: Wait till they get a load of me.-- Batman (Jack Nicholson)
Franzok yells: Hah, you think that was good? You just wait! --?

Hans'gar yells: No, Aaagh! I wasn't done yet!-- ?
Franzok yells: If it bleeds, we can kill it!-- Predator

Franzok yells: There can only be... two! Ha ha ha! --Highlander

Franzok yells: Hear me now... and believe me... later... --Pumping up With Hans & Franz
Hans'gar yells: No, not like this...-- The Matrix

Comentado por 274582

Commenting here just to say I used to watch Hanz and Franz on SNL as a kid, and this encounter had me so rip-roarious with laughter, I needed a new shirt. I was cutting up with my guildmates so much, I needed a bandaid. Ok done :)

Comentado por Pothemus

There's actually a little trick for this fight that can minimise your movement.

Standing in between the two conveyor belt actually stops you from being moved, you can just dodge incoming stamps and plates by moving to the edge of the middle little strip.

Find a good position in the raid and move just a tad bit to avoid all these without actually having to move onto the belt itself.

Comentado por marciosilva

Hans & Franz are back! We're here to pump you up!

Comentado por Skullhawk13

This fight perfectly illustrates what blizzard meant when they said movement wouldn't be t important. Ie, Blatant lies.

Comentado por Eilonthay

So you want to find out what they say during the fight, but don't want to actually fight them? Here you go!

Hans'gar yells: Hey Franz? Franzok! We got a jam!
Franzok yells: So? Go un-jam it den!
Hans'gar yells: I ain't un-jammin it! I un-jammed it last time!
Franzok yells: You wanna tell Blackhand we got a stamper that ain't stampin'?
Hans'gar yells: Ey you! Get in dere and un-jam that stamper!
Franzok yells: Ha ha ha! Guess dis batch will have some impurities.

Franzok yells: Your bones will be crushed to dust!
Hans'gar yells: I'm going to take you DOWN!
Hans'gar yells: Ha! Quit...hitting yourselves!
Franzok: Pump the forge up to overdrive!
Franzok yells: Hah, you think that was good? You just wait!
Hans'gar yells: I'll be back!
Hans'gar yells: Wait till they get a load of me.
Franzok yells: Hear me now...and believe me...later...
Hans'gar yells: No, not like this...

It's definitely one of the more amusing dialogues in the entire game. WoD has actually got a fair amount of humor in it, and I'm glad Blizzard took the time to put it in there, voice acting and all. =)

Comentado por dasbaum

LFR Bug: boss despawns sometime, I believe it has something to do with moving tiles and bosses targeting players out fo range or on moving tiles.

Every attempt where they despawned, we had someone outside or on edges ~5-7 times.

Ask everybody in LFR to stack on one spot (set a world marker), which does not move (lanes between the rolling bands). And hope for the best. It worked for us. Killed them on our first attempt while everybody was stacking.

Comentado por bolllocks

Still impossible to solo as of 7.1.0 on normal or LFR mode :(

Bosses despawn like previous comment says.

Comentado por helotcommander

Solo-able by a Ret Pally as of 7.1.5

Use the Manual de Evocação Caótica before pull, taunt and do nothing. Once your pet dies, DPS.

Your Bound Voidwalker takes the Crippling Suplex, letting you dps them to the next phase.

Comentado por Metrochx

It is possible to just bug out the fight to be able to solo it. If you stand far back halfway on the fence and let Franzok get right on top of you (with the Skullcracker ability) the fight will get buggy when they try to pick you up. If you're lucky they will get desynced and you just have to kill them.

Might be a bad description but if you just fiddle around a bit you'll be able to do it without special trinkets or pets.

Comentado por cstober2010

Heroic mode: Solo'd as 893 windwalker monk. Trick is to use Evocar Estátua do Boi Negro. However, you MUST only keep aggro on one. So to start, throw your statue on one boss and taunt the other. Your boss will throw you at the statue. From there, they will shift as intended.

My problem was I kept touch of deathing both of them and getting aggro, even with the statue down. You can do massive damage but if its just you, they cant throw you at yourself. So it will reset. Gotta let your companion keep aggro on one of the bosses. After one boss leaps on the ledge and the other remains on the belt, it should be smooth sailing.

Comentado por tyr2009

Some classes have it far easier than others. This has been tough for me to solo as a Prot warrior (@this time i866 with lvl46 weapon). The second guy to grab you causes the first one to evade miss you and then the fight resets.

There are two ways to beat this fight solo. The first requires you to use summonable trinkets such as Manual of Void-Calling, Mirror of the Blade, and Barov Lumberjack Caller. The goal is to have the trinket summon get picked up and slammed, or you to be slammed at the summon. The Lumberjacks and Mirrors can survive two transitions, if you have the bosses full attention.

The second way to beat it is to make one of the guys evade on the fence and hope the evade guy is the first guy to pick you up. The second guy will pick you up and the evade guy will dysync and not despawn. There are two good spots to do this on the fences. The first spot is as seen here in this DH solo video by asdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8vwYCR8Elc&t=0s&ytbChannel=asdf. The location is beginning fence corner (far NE on the map), you can hop up and keep hopping as they come, when the first guy jumps at you he will get stuck on the fence and evade. Which then falls to rng on whether or not he will grab you first or second. A second spot is running on the fence between the bosses. Keep running between two metal pillars on the fence until both of them move to be on the fence. One will jump on you and end up evading. Then it falls to rng on the grabs.

Good luck. My luck would break around 1m 30s.

Comentado por Ttotem

As of 7.2.5 this encounter can now be soloed without the use of pets/guardians. I confirmed this on my blood dk.

Comentado por meganerd18

So they reset when they're nearly dead because they're not designed to handle one person doing so much damage to them I guess. This sucks.

As I say that I did manage it, but I appear to have simultaneously wiped and won. Hans'gar gave his death quote, but Franzok gave his wipe quote.

Comentado por SerroDan

Guide to soloing Fundição da Rocha Negra on Mythic difficulty!

Link: https://youtu.be/o2SyYhD4Jdg

In this guide you will be facing 3 Bosses which are covered in the The BlackForge.
1. Hans'gar
2. Dobraflamas Ka'graz
3. Kromog

Why do we want to solo this on Mythic difficulty?
Unless you have completed the Quest, Signo do Mão Negra (Mítico), you will not be able to skip straight to Mão Negra.
Mão Negra has a 1% chance to drop a Destruidor Cascoferro, which is a highly desirable mount!

Comentado por Mehazael

Tried solo this on heroic with my paladin in tank spec, which didn't work because of the Crippling Suplex-reset weirdness. So I changed into dps spec and beat them without problem, and without trinkets or so to summon companions.

Comentado por Lake8888

Bug warning. If you down their HP quick enough (easily doable with 7.3.2 gear on 10m normal), both treadmill phases will overlap with both bosses jumping out. When this happens, their HPs will "decouple". If you kill one of the brothers as he return, the other one will still be alive and will despawn shortly after. You WILL not be able to loot the despawned boss or do the encounter again.

This can be solved by killing both bosses before they even exit the treadmill (done with ilvl 940 BM hunter) OR rushing to kill the 2nd boss before he despawns. The gates will be down at this point and you have like 5 seconds to kill the other boss.

Comentado por Aoratox

This boss is so broken. We can indeed now solo this encounter without the use of companions (like pets), but every time I defeat the encounter, I can only loot one boss. I spoke to a GM about it, he told me Hans and Franz have a certain script they need to run through. If the script is not completed, the boss will either despawn before or ON the kill. With the latter, you will be unable to loot the boss. I interpreted this explaination as "I am killing too fast / too high DPS". So I slowed down. I just stood there, auto attacked whatever boss was punching my face and did nothing else. About three minutes later, the boss dies. The bodies do not despawn this time, so for that it worked, but I was only able to loot ONE corpse, where I should be able to loot both. Something did not go right... again.

I am interested to see if other people encounter the same problem and if perhaps a solution is known.

Comentado por 1731820

Ok so the way I did it that ensures you can loot both bosses is to burst them as hard as you can, I'm 969 ilvl and got them to about 30%. At that point, both will jump off the main platform, simply wait out some of the treadmill stuff, but stay as close to them as you can without going outside the platform. Then one of them will jump in, kill him; the other will be outside the platform but will be attack-able. I saved my cooldowns for him and killed him fast and was then able to loot both corpses. Good luck!

Comentado por dkcm

To run this wing of the raid: Zone in. Turn left. Take elevator lift down.

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Hans'gar

Esse PNJ pode ser encontrado em Fundição da Rocha Negra .

Guia de Confrontos

Heróico		Mítico
Mortal		Importante
Tanque		DPS
Cura		Interrompível:
Mágica		Maldição
Veneno		Doença
Enfurecer

Visão Geral – A batalha contra Hans'gar e Franzok se dá no meio de uma linha de montagem dos Rocha Negra.
Ao chegar a determinadas quantidades de pontos de vida, um dos orcs gêmeos pula fora do espaço de combate para ativar o maquinário da fábrica, impulsionando as correias que carregam placas de minério Rocha Negra derretido e as prensas de estampagem que descem do teto com violência.
- Causadores de Dano –
  O feitiço [Rugido Perturbador] interrompe o lançamento de feitiço e é lançado mais rapidamente à medida que Franzok ganha Raiva.
  Hans'gar e Franzok têm um [Elo de sangue] e compartilham o mesmo total de vida.
- Curadores –
  Quando Hans'gar ou Franzok caem no chão, eles provocam [Tremores Secundários] que causam dano a todo o raide.
  O [Rugido Perturbador] de Franzok interrompe o lançamento e é lançado mais rapidamente conforme a Raiva aumenta.
  Quando Hans'gar ou Franzok sai da área da luta, eles pegam os dois tanques e dão um [Suplex Incapacitante] nos dois, causando muito dano Físico.
- Tanques –
  Quando Hans'gar ou Franzok saem da área da luta, ele pegam os dois tanques e usam [Suplex Incapacitante] nos dois, causando dano Físico alto.
  Quando Hans'gar e Franzok aterrissam, causam [Vértebras Partidas], que aumenta o dano recebido a cada aplicação na área ao redor deles.

Ameaças Ambientais

A batalha ocorre em meio a uma linha de processamento da Rocha Negra, o que traz vários riscos ao jogador desatento.

Placas Ardentes – Placas Ardentes atravessam a câmara por meio das correias, provocando queimaduras nos inimigos próximos e causando 4938 de dano de Fogo a cada 1 s.
Queimaduras Abrasadoras – Uma onda de calor irrompe da grelha, queimando os inimigos próximos e causando 3155 de dano de Fogo.
Pulverizado – As Prensas de Estampagem descem com tudo, esmagando inimigos próximos e causando 16461 de dano Físico.
Estampadores Inteligentes – As Prensas de Estampagem reagem periodicamente à sua presença. Elas permanecem abaixadas por mais tempo, bloqueando seu movimento.

Franzok
- Batida Corporal – Pula em direção a um inimigo.
  - Vértebras Partidas – Você recebe um golpe brutal que aumenta em 50% o dano Físico recebido.
    Na dificuldade Mítica, este efeito causa 13718 de dano Físico dividido igualmente entre os inimigos num raio de 12 metros.
  - Tremor Secundário – Uma onda de choque brutal irrompe pela sala e colide com você, causando 823 de dano Físico a cada 2 s.
- Elo de Sangue – Hans'gar e Franzok têm um vínculo de sangue e compartilham os pontos de vida.
- Suplex Incapacitante – Agarra um inimigo e o esmaga contra o alvo de maior ameaça em relação a ele, causando dano Físico equivalente ao máximo de pontos de vida do inimigo agarrado.
- Rugido Perturbador – Um rugido ensurdecedor interrompe todos os inimigos em um raio de 100 metros.
- Animado – Quando Hans'gar ou Franzok sofrem dano, eles ganham quantidades maiores de Raiva.
  À medida que a Raiva aumenta, a potência de Animado! também aumenta e eles causam mais dano corpo a corpo, o número de martelos arremessados por Rachacrânios aumenta, bem como o tempo de lançamento de Rugido Perturbador e o número de pulos da Batida Corporal.
- Rachacrânios – Arremessa um martelo num inimigo, causando 2401 de dano Físico.
Hans'gar
- Batida Corporal – Pula em direção a um inimigo.
  - Vértebras Partidas – Você recebe um golpe brutal que aumenta em 50% o dano Físico recebido.
    Na dificuldade Mítica, este efeito causa 13718 de dano Físico dividido igualmente entre os inimigos num raio de 12 metros.
  - Tremor Secundário – Uma onda de choque brutal irrompe pela sala e colide com você, causando 823 de dano Físico a cada 2 s.
- Elo de Sangue – Hans'gar e Franzok têm um vínculo de sangue e compartilham os pontos de vida.
- Suplex Incapacitante – Agarra um inimigo e o esmaga contra o alvo de maior ameaça em relação a ele, causando dano Físico equivalente ao máximo de pontos de vida do inimigo agarrado.
- Animado – Quando Hans'gar ou Franzok sofrem dano, eles ganham quantidades maiores de Raiva.
  À medida que a Raiva aumenta, a potência de Animado! também aumenta e eles causam mais dano corpo a corpo, o número de martelos arremessados por Rachacrânios aumenta, bem como o tempo de lançamento de Rugido Perturbador e o número de pulos da Batida Voadora.

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