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PSA: We're currently in the middle of implementing many changes. Damage values that you see in data mining are not nerfs.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Belchofthehorde @CM_Exhil Pre. (Though once you learn the Perk in-game, the affected spell's tooltip will reflect that.)
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Gear:

.@CM_Exhil Same goes for Elite PvP gear
— Holinka (@holinka) May 22, 2014

[/html][/tab] [tab name="Warrior"][html] On Execute:

@CM_Exhil That's the idea, yep.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Belchofthehorde @CM_Exhil Fury Execute: 30 Rage, only below 20%. Arms Execute: 60 Rage, always usable. (But you get tons of rage at <20%)
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@CM_Exhil @Belchofthehorde I believe it's significantly more than 'double' rage gen below 20%. Depends on haste, but more like 2.5-3.5x.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

Arms Rotation:

@Belchofthehorde Gone. New Arms rotation is in. May be hard to see the intent from just datamining. Patch notes later this week, hopefully.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Akcoor Overpower is gone. Execute is added to the rotation.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@FernandoFerna20 Yes.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Hemlock377 No. Keep reading the changes. You missed one.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

[/html][/tab] [tab name="Hunter"][html] On Deterrence:

@Qualenal We didn't. Tooltip bug.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Artemishowl @Morithinwow No, Deterrence was just a tooltip bug. It's unchanged.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Artemishowl Tooltip bug. It's unchanged.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Lone Wolf

@TheSlickrock BM never has had Lone Wolf. It's antithetical to BM.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Misdirect

@tanjon We soured on the permanent-Misdirection idea for many reasons, that many people have already discussed. Still working on alternative
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@tanjon Not offhand, but TL;DR: Only sometimes stacks with multiple hunters. Destroys a ton of tank gameplay.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Kill Command:

@wedgemccloud No idea how they datamined that; KC is definitely still BM-only.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Exotic Munitions:

@Garfurion Undecided. If so, it'll likely be a 3sec cast or something. Should be something you're making a significant commitment to.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Distracting Shot:

@Garfurion Yep. Distracting Shot and Soulshatter are back.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

[/html][/tab] [tab name="Druid"][html] On Bloody Thrash: Is bloody thrash being replaced with current Dream of Cenarius?

@Krayik Yes.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

Is bloody thrash becoming baseline?

@Krayik No.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Feral:

@Krayik Feral's pretty solid. No major changes planned.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Genesis

@Zolmation Each target individually. It replaces all Rejuvs with a Genesist HoT that does the same remaining healing, but over 3sec.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Dummerheld I think it may reduce the duration (but same total healing) with haste. Will check.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Swiftmend

@Dummerheld Internal balance tuning. Don't worry, we'll get there with Rampant Growth.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Wild Growth's mana cost:

@oliviadgrace @Warsongraven Yeah, that's a % of base mana. Caster druids have a large mana multiplier. (4x, I believe?)
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Foestriker @Dolsonwow @oliviadgrace @Warsongraven I think you may be missing the healing increase. We increased both healing and mana cost.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Pounce and Ravage:

@Krayik Yes, they're being merged with Rake/Shred. No, unfortunately, that's a downside.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Hurricane:

@Dolsonwow We did, yep.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

Balance: On Force of Nature

@punkcenobite365 Because it's a good talent that we're happy with? Did you have some particular concern with it?
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@punkcenobite365 The kit appropriateness and gameplay it creates is better as is. More interesting.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@punkcenobite365 And yet you can use them all in Solar. That's gameplay.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Balance in general:

.@Hasp6 We have some very large changes to Balance Druids coming. They're taking some time to implement, so next build will likely...
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Hasp6 ...include SOME of them, in a partially-complete state. We'll try to get a complete list of changes posted in the patch notes, so...
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Hasp6 ...that you aren't left confused by weird half-implemented changes in datamining.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

.@Hasp6 Current Balance is hard to learn, easy to master (at least discounting DoT snapshotting). Making some very fundamental changes.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

.@Hasp6 It's a package of changes that has to be evaluated as a complete package, so please forgive me for not teasing any specifics yet.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

[/html][/tab] [tab name="Death Knight"][html] On Conversion:

@Holsety_ Conversion is not intended to be DPS-neutral. It's intentionally a DPS tradeoff. It does trigger rune regen talents though now.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Blood Mastery:

@Achloryn Blood Mastery is back to what it was before.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Daeva001 Negative. Check out the full changes, or wait for the patch notes.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Achloryn You mean exactly like it does on live? :) That 50% scales with Mastery.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Heart Strike:

@IkrekotDK Heart Strike is gone. You'll use Pestilence (aka Blood Boil) in its place.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@IkrekotDK No single target Blood Rune abilities. You'll want to not Pestilence near CC'd targets that you don't want to break.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Blood Healing:

@IkrekotDK Enhanced Rune Strike was changed to Enhanced Death Coil. Yes, Resolve would affect Rune Tap.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@IkrekotDK Check out Ursa Major for Bears. It's similar, but on Death Coil. Rolling large health increase.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@IkrekotDK Neither. It's a % per Death Coil. (5% for 30sec, rolling, I think.)
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Holsety_ That is the intention.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Pestilence and Necrotic Plague:

@MagdalenaDK Current plan is that it does, though we're still evaluating whether that's OK. NP spreads on it own, so Pest just speeds it up.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

Does spreading Necrotic Plague with Pestilence to an infected target add a stack?

@jakobsohn @MagdalenaDK Currently, no.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

[/html][/tab] [tab name="Paladin"][html] On Divine Purpose:

@Ady_Mx Changed to clarify that it doesn't work with Seraphim. No change other than that.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Ady_Mx Yeah, that's just bad datamining. The tooltip is complex; it lists what holy power spenders you have besides Seraphim, by spec.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Avenging Wrath:

@Elusmuse Bad datamining. Retribution and Holy both have Avenging Wrath, it just functions a bit different for each.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Elusmuse Yep.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Inner Light:

@ZaulTV No. Bad datamining. And Inner Light is going away, anyway; merging back into Seal of Insight.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@LogaCypher It's merging back into Seal of Insight.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Faytte It wasn't; it was just merged back into Seal of Insight.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On how Ret is not being nerfed:

@megraam Hopefully 17th time will stick: *There was no nerf. You're misinterpreting datamining.*
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

[/html][/tab] [tab name="Monk"][html] On Ox Statue:

@MLunsted Yeah, same as removing Bloodworms. That's more raid utility that we can fairly remove from tanks.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@MLunsted Absolutely.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Stances and Crackling Jade Lightning:

@Reglitch_ That wording was removed because Crane is the only stance that CJL costs mana in. Meant nothing; "more than" what?
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Chi Explosion:

@Reglitch_ That's what it's balanced around. It's still a gain to use that, it's just not 6x stronger than it should be.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Keg Smash:

@orrine A) Nothing changed with Keg Smash. B) No they don't. There's a talent *choice* that involves one ground target a min. It's not bad.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

[/html][/tab] [tab name="Priest"][html] On Power Word Shield:

@Zolmation PW:S can crit, baseline now. (And Multistrike).
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Multistrike:

@its_yuvie And besides, Multistrike and Cleave are definitely not unrewarding for Disc. For example, PW:S can Multistrike.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

[/html][/tab] [tab name="Shaman"][html] On Unleash Elements:

@Morithinwow Were you perhaps looking at Unleashed Fury?
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Morithinwow There is no change to anything like that, and I don't see any such change in MMO-C's datamining. Sure you're not reading UFury?
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Morithinwow Bad datamining. MMO-C always misreads any spell that is increased by exactly 100% of SP as '0'.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Enhancement and nerfs:

@Pepachu1 Enhancement did not take a big hit. That would be an incorrect analysis of datamining. See aforementioned PSA.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Multiple Healing Rains and Conductivity:

@etherealemm You can have multiple HRs at once, yes. Conductivity only affects the most recent one.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

[/html][/tab] [tab name="Rogue"][html] On Rupture:

@jjones186 Rupture's damage is insanely good currently (6.0); we keep struggling with how to keep it from being *too* strong.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Death From Above:

@jjones186 It does the initial AoE damage as well, and the Eviscerate/Envenom do 1.5x their normal damage.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Daggers:

@2Stoned2Drive We never were planning on non-daggers being viable for Mutilate. See patch notes for description of that.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@2Stoned2Drive We took back out the ability for them to even use Daggers to prevent confusion, and because we found a better way to solve it
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@2Stoned2Drive It would be possible, so that you could try out the gameplay without daggers, but far from optimal.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Aulper7 @2Stoned2Drive The non-daggers change was really confusing to people; was expected to be viable. Found a better solution instead.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@2Stoned2Drive @Aulper7 Better solution is to make it much more reliable for you to have daggers available.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Combat Crimson Tempest:

@2Stoned2Drive That's all being reverted. Combat CT is indeed back to a bleed again.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Aulper7 @2Stoned2Drive The Combat CT change was so that you still use SnD in AoE, I believe.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

[/html][/tab] [tab name="Warlock"][html] On cast while moving:

@TruefireBL I think you may be forgetting about Corruption and Agony.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@TruefireBL A) Pandemic is gone, and a reduced version of it is baseline. B) There's a large window to press them in; use it.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@pounceal0t So you want to continue being overpowered? Understandable...
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@TheAlienwhisper KJC was nerfed because it was overpowered in 6.0. While we want to reduce button bloat overall, this was worth it.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Shadowbolt's cast time:

@enxigma Tooltip bug. It's still 2.5sec.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

[/html][/tab] [tab name="Mage"][html] On Nether Tempest:

@Ovu Tooltip bug. I meant to delete the AM proc part, and accidentally deleted that whole paragraph. Its AoE component remains.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Ovu It's now [Arcane DoT that scales with charges and pulses AoE], instead of [Arcane DoT that triggers AM procs and pulses AoE].
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Ignite:

@Xenogenic A common misconception. It's not actually. 100% of the damage of the last ignite is added to the new one. It's just spread out.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Xenogenic Yes, and that's still the same total damage.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Xenogenic CombustionHelper is telling you the damage *per tick*, not the total damage. If you have one 300 tick left, and a new ignite...
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Xenogenic ...that should do a total of 300 damage, you end up with 3 more ticks that do 200. Total of 600.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Xenogenic Yes. If you're dummy testing, remember that your very first Ignite is 2 ticks; all after that are 3 ticks (due to DoT refreshing)
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Xenogenic Well it fairly obviously has to go up and down, otherwise it'd just grow infinitely over the fight.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

@Xenogenic I really think you must be looking at just a couple casts on a dummy. What you're describing isn't a problem in actual practice.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

On Reticule Targeting:

@orrine A) Nothing changed with Keg Smash. B) No they don't. There's a talent *choice* that involves one ground target a min. It's not bad.
— Celestalon (@Celestalon) May 22, 2014

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