Gold Opportunities in 10.1.7 - Wowhead Economy Weekly Wrap-Up 294

Posted 2023/09/03 at 1:00 PM by SamadanPlaysWoW

SamadanGold Opportunities 10.1.7
Hey community been playing dragonflight for awhile now and I cannot for the life of me figure out the direction that blizzard are going in terms of inserting gold into the economy.

The raw gold farms seem like a tenth of what they were in shadowlands. Like we had the mission table, callings and gold world quests and just general raw gold from quests and mobs.

In DF it seems like they have reduced the amount of raw gold that can be produced in the economy. The bots do majority of this just by consistency and the fact that it is automated.

In real world economics this is called quantitative tightening. More people have less gold coming in and the rich goblins are sitting on alot of money it's like the poor people in game are like millenials/zoomers and the rich goblins are like boomers holding majority of the wealth.

Boomers tend to not spend money back into the economy, whereas the younger people tend to spend more money in the economy I'm all for that last thing we want is stagnation and to be honest it really feels like a big reset is coming in both the real world and the wow economy.

Last patch they introduced the Naxx t3 items but effectively it was designed to take more money out of the economy from the rich players more so than the poor. The poor would grind endlessly to serve the rich so to speak. Because any gold opportunity at the start of a patch only lasts a certain amount of time.

My question is what will they bring in next patch? Something similar to a gold sink more ways for people to buy tokens to buy stuff but essentially its a massive gold sink in my opinion and I would be surprised if the wow token rises more for NA.

So much gold exits the economy through redundant gear upgrades especially when the patch hype starts and everyone is on the grind. I literally can't find the reasons to play much and I see alot of youtubers focusing on gold making have gone to other games.

Is wow dead what is the business model going forward, what does it mean for gold making. In all honesty unless your doing some degen gold making stuff and putting alot of hours into the game to make gold isn't enough to value one's time in the game.

Am I lost? Am I the only one who is thinking this way about the wow economy has anyone experience a decline for gold making opportunities let's make a conversation about it.

Thanks for your time a long post and I hope to read your comments below. Cheers

Vendor sale values have been actively reduced thus reducing "raw gold" value of running old raids and dungeons. The flip side of this is that these items are cheaper to list on the AH because vendor price dictates deposit cost.

Mission Tables have been removed in DF, the first time since WoD where mission tables could be a source of gold for Alt armies. This has been replaced by some degree with Dragon Riding races, reasonable value WQ missions and bonuses to Dungeon Finder for needed classes.

Region-wide Auction house has increased competition for commodities and removed niches for particular servers. The flip side of this is that raw materials are much cheaper and more accessible to the wider playerbase.

From the perspective of DF, token price is up because there is a sale for Blizz games and services. The rise so far is consistent with what I have seen other times this happens or when Diablo came out, so that’s nothing new.

Raw gold… sort of. So yes, you can’t just park toons at the mission table and have auto gold, but there are a ton of WQs that take 5 seconds and give 5-600g. There is still easy gold to be made, but the really easy gold is effectively capped by WQ resets and/or require some sort of activity however small, which I don’t think is a bad thing.

I think opportunities are still everywhere BUT there is more competition for the lower hanging fruit due to YouTube guides AND you have to work at least on the set up to make big gold.

As with anything else in the game, it’s a game. If you don’t enjoy making gold anymore, try a different way to do it or don’t do it.

I do agree that in game gold sinks are a little much, mostly for vendor crafting mats as they cost more than the final product’s vendor value. While I understand they are trying to promote within-player sales, it would be nice to at least break even while leveling profs if you farm your own mats.

Edit: Also, have you the super easy fly around and dig things up strat? Raw gold. Not a huge ton of effort. Like I said, lots of ways, just slightly more effort than the mission tableSoaring Token PricesToken Prices hitting new highswowtokenprices.comclassic.wowtoken.appHardcore Gold MakingHi all,

I have decided i am going to leave the world of retail behind and casually play some HC.

It may seem like an odd avenue to go down but I am planning to slowly level my way up with my primary focus on being a complete titan of industry.

On retail I'm pretty good at making gold and while i will be doing my own research on what ways to play the AH etc i would love to hear any tips you guys may have on how to get my seed capital up and any success you have been having in the gold making world.TradeSkillMaster

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— TradeSkillMaster (@TSMAddon) August 30, 2023In the beginning, bags are insanely valuable on a new server. You can start by crafting bags for 125% materials for example, the excess you craft into more bags that you sell for cash.

The learning from this concrete tip - everything that works on a new server applies to hardcore.Tbh one of the best goldmaking methods is just leveling. If you ever leveled classic till 60, you will know the following.

Levels 1-20 you make absolute garbage, single digit gold. Levels 20-30, you may get into the double digits but fairly low. Levels 30-40, you suddenly make quite a bit more and by lvl 40, youre only a bit short on your 100g for the mount (unless you spent your money on too many spells or gear).

After you spend your 100g on the mount and have basically nothing, you lvl 40-60 and at 60 you suddenly have hundreds of gold, I myself had 400, some people have less, some people have 600 and more.

Fact of the matter is, high lvl quests and mobs net so much more gold than youre able to collect by some professions tactics at low lvls. Of course, all the tips you were given here will work, but this is the most important thing. You gotta lvl up too.

And please remember to keep sending your gold to a bank alt in case you die.Removed Items Returning in 10.1.7old items that were previously removed are going to see a comeback

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Comment by PesachRegion-wide Auction house has increased competition for commodities and removed niches for particular servers. The flip side of this is that raw materials are much cheaper and more accessible to the wider playerbase.Comment by TequimaMy usual goals for an expansion are to level & gear my main & her professions & rep. Then (partly in parallel), level my 8 main profession chars & their professions (as of SL, on two servers as the profit margin is slim to negative on my main's server - I don't understand why crafters there post 15 items for 1g profit, when the sale rate is 2-3 items before you are undercut, and posting cost for each failed sell is 2-6 gold each time it fails to sell?). Then collect all the patterns for the expansion. Then start to fill gaps in patterns on old expansions.

Getting gold is not a goal per se, but having "enough" to collect is, particularly with the price of patterns this expansion (and as I only casually raid with my main's guild now).

I can honestly say it's been a lot tougher this expansion, and my initial enthusiasm for the new profession system fast disappeared as I don't like sitting in Valdrakken all day spamming adverts for my crafts. This means I've had to rely on alt-orders to level up the professions from 50-100 and this is still a work in progress on 3/4 of my chars, even at this late stage of the expac. With the added requirement for reputation for the pattern unlocks for Master profession tools, It feels like I can't catch up a lot of the time, which feels frustrating. I've barely started filling gaps in old professions - mainly when I feel I need a time out /off- including the new-old Scholo/Naxx ones.

If they keep these systems next expansion my three wishes would be:

Integrate with the AH to buy mats (or get rid of the Craft Order system and simply make the BoP mat X a mandatory extra payment field on the AH - increase the amount required, instead of a new item, for higher iLevels);

Give us a static method of advertising our crafts AND quality other than Trade channel - the WoW equivalent of the Yellow Pages (even if it's via a web page linked to the armory instead of in-game)

Keep making patterns available via the Auction House, but maybe increase the drop rates a bit so they're not quite so exclusive?

Comment by MavvenRegion-wide Auction house has increased competition for commodities and removed niches for particular servers. The flip side of this is that raw materials are much cheaper and more accessible to the wider playerbase.Comment by Esploratore

Agreed. Commodities are in such high surplus for most items in the game, the lack of demand crashes all the prices so low that almost nobody is producing goods (other than those who can en masse) because they sell lower than the cost to actually make. The only people making money here are goblins, bots and farmers. I made tons of gold in Shadowlands by actually playing the commodity market as well as selling legendaries. Goldmaking at any reasonable rate is dead for 98% of the playerbase.Comment by TyneicGoldmaking at any reasonable rate is dead for 98% of the playerbase.Comment by ChochuProfessions this expansion has been a bag of mixed feeling on one side is not worth getting it to max quality, lets say alchemy, is ridiculous more cheaper buying the potions and flask than make them yourself which kinda defeat the whole purpose of having that profession unless you are only looking for one of their unique benenit for your character.

On the other hand all of this has cause to get most of the products and or enchanments very affordable.

All in all i think they should take a look at some of the flaws that professions currently are facing and make some adjustment that can benefit everyone.Comment by AniseMy usual goals for an expansion are to level & gear my main & her professions & rep. Then (partly in parallel), level my 8 main profession chars & their professions (as of SL, on two servers as the profit margin is slim to negative on my main's server - I don't understand why crafters there post 15 items for 1g profit, when the sale rate is 2-3 items before you are undercut, and posting cost for each failed sell is 2-6 gold each time it fails to sell?). Then collect all the patterns for the expansion. Then start to fill gaps in patterns on old expansions.

Getting gold is not a goal per se, but having "enough" to collect is, particularly with the price of patterns this expansion (and as I only casually raid with my main's guild now).

I can honestly say it's been a lot tougher this expansion, and my initial enthusiasm for the new profession system fast disappeared as I don't like sitting in Valdrakken all day spamming adverts for my crafts. This means I've had to rely on alt-orders to level up the professions from 50-100 and this is still a work in progress on 3/4 of my chars, even at this late stage of the expac. With the added requirement for reputation for the pattern unlocks for Master profession tools, It feels like I can't catch up a lot of the time, which feels frustrating. I've barely started filling gaps in old professions - mainly when I feel I need a time out /off- including the new-old Scholo/Naxx ones.

If they keep these systems next expansion my three wishes would be:

Integrate with the AH to buy mats (or get rid of the Craft Order system and simply make the BoP mat X a mandatory extra payment field on the AH - increase the amount required, instead of a new item, for higher iLevels);
Give us a static method of advertising our crafts AND quality other than Trade channel - the WoW equivalent of the Yellow Pages (even if it's via a web page linked to the armory instead of in-game)
Keep making patterns available via the Auction House, but maybe increase the drop rates a bit so they're not quite so exclusive?

As an aside, the implementation of Public orders (particularly as there's no integration with the Auction House) hasn't been that successful IMHO, and is now 90% scam orders - at least on the 2 servers I play on.