Trade Chat, Token Prices & Brick Weeklys - Wowhead Economy Weekly Wrap-Up 27

Posted 2023/05/21 at 1:00 PM by SamadanPlaysWoW

SamadanThe Trade Chat DilemmaHi all,

New to professions in Dragonflight and have been enjoying mostly enchanting crests for small but steady profit. I post a friendly message in Trade Chat (not General) every few minutes at peak times, tips are optional, and regardless of tip when I do each enchant I include a message thanking the person for their business. I enchanted ~ 70 crests this week, and everyone was really friendly and nice.

So I was surprised to get an automated message from Wow in-game yesterday that I'd "been reported for inappropriate language" since the only people I've talked to in-game this week were the friendly appreciative enchanted crest customers and a few close friends in M+. Never cursed etc, and conversation was entirely friendly and mutually appreciative.

It made me wonder if perhaps someone didn't like me posting in Trade Chat, but everything I've read on the forums said posting professions offers in Trade Chat is fine. Did I miss something? I've really enjoyed Personal Work Orders and interacting with customers, but don't want to get banned for it.

Thanks!
A new professions baby goblinI really wish the crafting order system provided some way for crafters to list their available services and earn visible reputation, so I could place an order with a specific person without having to already know they exist. I'd permanently leave Trade chat and be so much happier if that were a thing."At which point I prefer to use an easy-to-use directory to find someone reputable who can provide what I'm looking for." what would be the ingame equivalent to this ?Within your Guild, you can go to the Roster tab and change the drop-down from Achievements to Professions. Open up the craft-type and then select/search for the item you want crafting. Then click "View Crafters". This will bring up a list of people in your guild who can craft the item & whether they are online or not. (However it doesn't say what skill level/quality they can craft it too - that will require a conversation/mail exchange).

Like most things WoW, not the most elegant, and not everyone knows about it.

They could do something similar for "all the people currently in Valdrakken".Unusual Ways to Make GoldPenguin2gtToken Prices & Race to World Firstwowtokenprices.comWeekly Barter Brick Quests

Tailoring brick 🧱 quest has been the best yet! 😍 Scooped up 920K gold in sales from crafting/flipping cloth. #Warcraft #WorldOfWarcraft #GoldMaking

— hikons 💙 (@hikons) May 17, 2023It didn't just change "today". It changes when someone knows of NA change, on week 2 that happened within minutes of NA being known. Sturdies are a bit different as they don't stack so they aren't region wide item in AH. On my server (EU) price doubled between 7:23 and 8:23 PM Tuesday. I guess that's like 10 hrs before.

You can use this site to see when prices have changed. People are not waiting for EU server to come up to see the quests, that's for sure.

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Comments

Comment by feffe79

The trade chat is a hopeless never ending waterfall of spam worse than the ones and zeroes in the Matrix so i generally have to opt out on both trade and services.

Comment by dokeefe1986

Engaging with the profession systems are far more frustrating than enjoyable imo which is sad. This system fixed a lot of past problems, but created a ton of new ones at the same time. It turns off casual players big time. I see it all the time in discords, guild chats, Twitter, etc. Which is a bummer, and I agree with them. Its complexity is so unnecessary. People asked for profession depth. Not confusion and complexity. Those aren't the same things. Imo

Comment by NiccoloM

Awesome, I bought a bunch of tokens below 220k yesterday.
But I already miss the 140k days during the first month.

Comment by Renewal

It's wild that Blizzard is OK with weaponizing Reports. The customer support is terrible, not even saying WHAT they think the player did wrong, not even listing the supposedly offending message. Just automatic bannings.

Comment by pawpurr

Yes, crafting isn't good on low pop servers, nor is anything else. That's not a crafting problem, though, that's a low pop server problem. Nothing quite goes right on dead realms, it's best to leave, unless you're there to farm with no competition or something.

Comment by dabone1337

I still can't see how the profession system is complex. Yes, there are different options but it is far away from being complex.

Comment by TigerAceRay

Miss me with trade chat. Left that channel ASAP on all channels. Just endless spam

Comment by wowheadrhino7

As a casual goblin, the only thing I like about the crafting process is getting BOP gear that I would never have gotten since I don't Mythic/Raid. I really don't see the point of spamming Trade Chat asking for a crafter since I have never had a bit of difficulty putting up an order with a reasonable tip. They are always filled quickly.

As for my own professions, I make a couple rare items (mounts/pets) and wait for them to sell, while slowly working my way to 100. I'm way too much of an introvert to try to sell my skills in Trade Chat. Also I don't have the new shiny recipes.

I also do elemental arbitrage on each server I play: converting rousing to awakened to capture price differences. It doesn't make much gold, but it's a regular earner.

Comment by Kerathras

Those brick weeklies are basically just gold sinks for the gullible. Come to think of it everything to do with crafting in DF has been just that. They made a convoluted crafting system that’s so annoying most people are willing to pay others to engage with instead of doing it themselves. But then taking advantage of people’s laziness has always been the best way to make gold in WoW. DF just really enables that much more than ever before.

Comment by thraun

Again these wrap-ups only focus on the same very boring activities that only appeal to a very very small percentage of the players and of the goblins out there. Really wish you would open up a little more and add more interesting and diversified farms, techniques, tips, etc.

Comment by cheinii

for me, it was actually far, *way* worse

i was banned for standing up to a player trying to scam me: didn't complete an order till success, after warning him it ain't be if he is lying
and he went full hate mode on /2
this, before the last spark week and i was the best crafter on the realm
after 2 previous offenses that were also mass report abuse (when it was cool to share pics on trade) so it was 10d

support was as useless as expected, and i simply forfeited wow. xd
this, after being the nice kid for i don't even know how long... i suppose nozdormu did nothing wrong. will do. w/evs.
it's not even that i gave up on being nice, i simply... forgot how to, this time forever :(

Comment by infernofirestorm

I had nothing worth selling during the early wild west of no limit crafting orders but now that I have something to sell it feels real bad doing a whole 4 crests and then desperately macro spamming a lightspeed trade chat in the hopes some one chooses me. Hurts even more when you fill an order for 200, then immediately when you're out one goes up for 2000.

Comment by Bonky

untill they either ban the adverting of boost or limit the about you can type trade chat will be a hot noodle mess forever

Comment by Chochu

No much point in maxing your profession just to make that enchant that you and your friends might need, you endup in a really unnecessary gold sink that is not worth even more so when the enchant that you wanted to make in the first place is really cheap on the AH.

Professions as they are currently just killed the need to level up yours when everything is too expensive to get it up while the final product is cheap around, gg.

Comment by lovelywaz

The major issue with having a directory listing of Crafters "with" rep system is the same that has prevented it to never been applied in other LFG activities. It's the abusive potential/certainty of it.

Forget about people using bots to add bad rep/1 star (whatever lowest or negative type of voting system it will be), a few friends and guildies can get together and mass downvote others while upvoting their own. And as we know, the lower your ratings are, least likely you will get new customers and every passing day, it will only go downhill.

Having just a list of Crafters currently online and in the City is a good idea and the list should include not only their skill level and recipes but also what maximum quality each item they can craft.

Comment by avatarofshadow

i wish they'd ban anyone who used the trade channel for trade instead of fighting over American politics.

Comment by fendred

I only picked up DF last week and haven't read any profession guides yet, and the crafting orders system is really unintuitive and hard to break in to. I've meddled with it a little using the free S1 Sparks but I really have no idea what I'm doing, the dream of just putting in an order for the item you want and waiting for the order to fill turns into the hot mess of trying to figure out which reagents I need to put up (or how much to tip for the appropriate reagents, since the 3 different tiers have wildly different AH values ) and it seems you can't specify minimum quality on public orders? so you either take a massive gamble on the possibility that someone crafts a sub-par piece, or you still need to find a crafter anyway.

The whole interface is pretty worthless if it still necessitates finding and talking to a crafter and negotiating reagents and price; that's what we were already doing but now there's just an extra step inbetween?

When they first announced work orders I got excited hoping for something like what I remember from EVE, where any item in game you can list a buy or sell order at your preferred price, if the price matches up the order fills and everyone goes away happy. Instead we got a !@#$ty crafting UI on top of a @#$%ty AH, trust blizzard to needlessly complicate a system and call it content.

I'm sure I'll get the hang of it once I read a few guides and engage more but I can't imagine I'm the only one who felt like this when first confronted with the crafting orders system.

Comment by Masterik

Wow token price not dropping much after a big patch sound really bad because its tell us that not many people returned to the game, basically end of the season level of population and its gonna get worse with D4 releasing in a few weeks.

Comment by Whulle

If trade chat is that bad, maybe what they could do is put a notice board with a filtering option in the capital cities and players can post their services there, like the way we have community notice boards at the supermarket irl. Maybe add it to the hero's call boards, or even post services at the profession shops. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Comment by feffe79

i wish they'd ban anyone who used the trade channel for trade instead of fighting over American politics.

Hear hear! I miss the good old days.