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Where is the Prison of N'Zoth?

posted 13 days ago by perculia

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Comment by Castrum It literally makes no sense for his prison to be in the Maelstrom. The entire thing exists because that was the Well of Eternity. It would have been blown to bits at the very least, and it makes no sense why the Titans would place an Old God literally underneath\/beside a massive fount of power created by them wrenching another Old God from the spot.

If anyone recalls Vashj\u2019ir, you\u2019ll remember N\u2019zoth\u2019s reach extended as far as Abyssal Depths. It\u2019s quite likely, especially given that we\u2019ve seen a part of N\u2019zoth in northeast Stormsong Valley, that N\u2019zoth is the size of a continent. He stretches at least from The Maelstrom to Stormsong and down to Vashj\u2019ir. Perhaps the Titans couldn\u2019t shrink him like they could the others? Or he was still powerful when he was bound and it seems put into hibernation of some sort (Xavius and his dream chains, needing Deathwing to be his avatar, etc.).

Another related hypothesis could be N\u2019zoth is bound by a triangulated series of chains that exert a force over him. So there wouldn\u2019t need to be literal chains all over him and his cage, just at certain spots (I\u2019m thinking like the Cadian Gate situation in 40K, or on a smaller scale, G\u2019huun with the seals). This would allow for a part of the cage to be in Nazjatar and the other parts\/seals to be elsewhere. Comment by Elondre Wow's next expansion : Off with the whole world, theres nothing to do in it anyways, all continents replaced by the black empire and all new characters are created lvl 120 omegalul Comment by vpuh Why N'zoths prison is just underwater chains,while Yoggs prison is titan fortress with numerous defensive and guard systems,titan avatars and re-origination option? Comment by Elondre Why N'zoths prison is just underwater chains,while Yoggs prison is titan fortress with numerous defensive and guard systems,titan avatars and re-origination option?\r
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Oy matey, is that plot questioning i see ova here ? Do you have a loicense for that ? Comment by LeLeLeK It literally makes no sense for his prison to be in the Maelstrom. The entire thing exists because that was the Well of Eternity. \r
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I've always assumed the scar that later became the Well and the Maelstrom was where Y'shaarj was embedded in the planet. I've also assumed that the Old Gods were imprissioned in the exact locations their massive bulks slammed into the ground.\r
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It wouldn't be possible for two of them to be at the exact same location, would it? Comment by RandomShell That last paragraph seems really farfetched. The Titans may not be able to stop him? All they have to do is reach down and squish him underneath a single finger.\r
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The real issue here is that they are currently chilling in their basement keeping an eye on Sargeras (and letting Illidan believe his presence makes even the tiniest, most miniscule bit of a difference). Comment by Saby I was already thinking that maybe if the sword gets disintegrated somehow (wasn't Deathwing in DS?), another Well might be built over the wound in Silitus. Comment by AzraelUltima It literally makes no sense for his prison to be in the Maelstrom. The entire thing exists because that was the Well of Eternity. \r
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I've always assumed the scar that later became the Well and the Maelstrom was where Y'shaarj was embedded in the planet. I've also assumed that the Old Gods were imprissioned in the exact locations their massive bulks slammed into the ground.\r
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It wouldn't be possible for two of them to be at the exact same location, would it?\r
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Keep in mind that they weren't exactly friends, so two landing right next to each other would quickly have resulted in one getting killed.\r
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Personally, i'd like the raid to end with even Azshara getting a bit of a surprise.\r
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\u00c1 l\u00e1 *long monologue by Azshara regarding her superiority and how she and her master are going to dominate all*\r
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Azshara: "And now witness the coming of..." *turns around*\r
Azshara: "...who are you?" Comment by Zygos I want to see a full blown continent on the backside of Azeroth the size of Kalimdor or Eastern Kingdoms... I want to see it as the site for the rise of the Black Empire. Killing N'zoth during this expansion would be dumb. An entire expansion based around a return of the Black Empire would be epic. Comment by sniperorc Why N'zoths prison is just underwater chains,while Yoggs prison is titan fortress with numerous defensive and guard systems,titan avatars and re-origination option?

"It is ironic that the weakest of us may be the ultimate victor. C'Thun, Yogg-Saron, Y'Shaarj, and... well. Only one would remain to consume the world, that was always meant to be." -- Xal'atath

The Titans underestimated N'zoth. Comment by Dualwielder I love you guys, but this articles was rather poor in many places.

My first point of contention is with the locations and maps. If you really want to triangulate the position, then please don't use the in-game map. Chronicle, that is already used for the first reference images, have a world map that is probably more correct than the notoriously not-to-scale game maps. If course this still places is in between the BfA continents, but they are significantly further away, and it is much closer to the Eye of Azshara in the Broken Isles than anything else.

Also, there is very little mystical about Azshara supposedly moving things. Ships are famously mobile, that is in fact their purpose. And we have on multiple occasions moved the Tidestone of Golganneth, so really that is very loose ground to base anything on.
To move N'zoth's prison, would implicate that N'zoth is being moved as well. You also note how large N'zoth is, and talk about how the Well was created when the Titans removed Y'shaarj from where it was embedded. This makes the idea that N'zoth can feasibly be moved at all one of the most unlikely things.

Honestly, the most likely way to reconcile these things, is to imagine that the ruins, which are after all only stone structures on the surface were either not right next to the Well (perhaps a megalopolis), or moved by the blast or other means.

All of this theorizing gets very far fetched really quick, and I am perhaps just getting too old for it. Comment by Wepstar Yes, let's punch Night Elves even more. Let's make them to be creatures created by the Old Gods! Soon non Night Elves fans will left!

But for serious talking Sargeras and legion know about Well of the Eternity, and they are enemies of the N'Zot. So N'Zot for 100% is not under the Maelstorm.

The best place for him to be is Silverpine forest. Thrall have seen something very evil hiding there underground. Comment by Vetochka I wonder how N'Zoth was able 10k years ago to literally transform drawn elves into nagas. For me it takes a lot of energy and power to do so. And he was imprisoned, for years prison defenses (if they were) can only break and become malfunction, so with time he can be only stronger. But he is doing nothing and is able to do almost nothing (it seems like he can only talk and command), what is illogical to what he was able to do before. Comment by Mourning I want to see a full blown continent on the backside of Azeroth the size of Kalimdor or Eastern Kingdoms... I want to see it as the site for the rise of the Black Empire. Killing N'zoth during this expansion would be dumb. An entire expansion based around a return of the Black Empire would be epic.\r
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Thats pretty much what I have been praying and dreaming of, since we were told that N'zoth would play a part in BfA. I am really, really hoping, that IF we go toe to toe with N'zoth, in this Xpac, something happens during the encounter, where we fight something, that looks like "him", but isnt him, and then an entire xpac, filled with Black Empire madness, void creatures, a giant portal of evil, that leads to the void realm, where we then get a "foothold", and thats the next xpac ;-)\r
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Ps. We havent heard anything about Sylvannas and her new pet dagger, have we? Comment by Alechs777 I want to see a full blown continent on the backside of Azeroth the size of Kalimdor or Eastern Kingdoms... I want to see it as the site for the rise of the Black Empire. Killing N'zoth during this expansion would be dumb. An entire expansion based around a return of the Black Empire would be epic.

That's interesting.
At the beginning of the expansion (or even before the launch) I was 100% against making the void and Old Gods the main villains of this expansion. Like I believed they deserved more than just one patch or something. A part of me still thinks killing N'zoth off just like any other boss would be a waste of potential, but after this whole build-up we're seeing... it's rather clear where the current story is going.

Off topic - I've seen speculations that the next expansion could be about the Shadowlands, considering how many important characters have mentioned that place lately. Sooo... we'll get rid of the Old God soon, then we'll go to the realm of death to fight death itself (hopefully getting rid of Sylvanas to this point) aaand then, in patch 10.0 we go back to space to destroy the void lords once and for all? In my opinion that would make some sense and the lore wouldn't need to be bent in the weirdest ways possible. Comment by Josephcurwen that "circle of stars search" is a meme at this point Comment by Drathy \r
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"It is ironic that the weakest of us may be the ultimate victor. C'Thun, Yogg-Saron, Y'Shaarj, and... well. Only one would remain to consume the world, that was always meant to be." -- Xal'atath\r
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The Titans underestimated N'zoth.\r
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Do we have proof that N'Zoth is indeed the weakest? Maybe we have been lied to all along and in fact he is the same or even more powerful than Y'Shaarj was? Or Xal talks about herself as the ultimate victor, she does say "us" and not "them" Comment by Archimtiros Another related hypothesis could be N\u2019zoth is bound by a triangulated series of chains that exert a force over him. So there wouldn\u2019t need to be literal chains all over him and his cage, just at certain spots (I\u2019m thinking like the Cadian Gate situation in 40K, or on a smaller scale, G\u2019huun with the seals). This would allow for a part of the cage to be in Nazjatar and the other parts\/seals to be elsewhere.

That's precisely what the post says in "Perhaps a part of N'Zoth is imprisoned somewhere, but his full body is so much larger that it spreads beyond that location, like a vine that's grown beyond the supports that hold it."

Honestly, the most likely way to reconcile these things, is to imagine that the ruins, which are after all only stone structures on the surface were either not right next to the Well (perhaps a megalopolis), or moved by the blast or other means.

It's almost like that's one of the theories set forth in the article, specifically the third; if the ruins can be moved by upheaval, there's no reason to assume N'Zoth's prison might not (if anything, ruins would be more likely to just be destroyed, rather than relocate as the continents drift apart and oceans rush in). Comment by stormrage666 I can't stand ppl talking about killing Sylv...\r
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Sylv did a lot of things wrong, but do not deserve to die or step down as warchief.\r
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It's world of warcraft not friendshipcraft.\r
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yay for xpansion being the black empire trought a void rift deep in the sea. Comment by Menelvagor This was solid - I enjoyed this from a speculation standpoint.

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