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Rastakhan and Greymane Dialogue in Battle of Dazar'alor - Unreliable Narrator

posted 22 days ago by perculia

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Comment by etheldald is this dialogue the same for both sides? \r
wasn't supposed to be an alternative version of genn's dialogue? Comment by Madcocogirl Well $%^&, the Alliance ain't messing around lol! Atleast it's clear why he chose to rather die since the only other way he'd survive is by giving away his daughter as a political hostage :\/ Comment by Nulgar Genn Greymane: So be it. Heroes of the Alliance...strike him down! No mercy for this savage!\r
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Genn sure has a way of being inadvertently self-ironic. Comment by Yrayl is this dialogue the same for both sides? \r
wasn't supposed to be an alternative version of genn's dialogue?\r
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It's the same dialogue for both sides. The Horde see this from the Alliance PoV so it all happens the same. Comment by tboss2447 is this dialogue the same for both sides? \r
wasn't supposed to be an alternative version of genn's dialogue?\r
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It's the same dialogue for both sides. The Horde see this from the Alliance PoV so it all happens the same.\r
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There was voiced lines where genn is calmer about asking him to surrender Comment by Daeryus Do you think that perhaps Greymane has his own agenda, then? Because for all his naivety, I sincerely doubt Anduin would consider himself anyone's "master." And as you said, he never alluded to Talanji as a hostage.\r
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Maybe the Alliance isn't as tightly-knit as we're led to think. Maybe Tyrande isn't the only one working toward her own ends.\r
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Thoughts? Comment by etheldald is this dialogue the same for both sides? \r
wasn't supposed to be an alternative version of genn's dialogue?\r
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It's the same dialogue for both sides. The Horde see this from the Alliance PoV so it all happens the same.\r
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Yes but, this could be interpreted as the one telling the story as unreliable narrator.\r
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i am pretty sure that there are alternative dialogues in the VO of genn. Comment by Owee I guess there is no hope for a world of peacecraft Comment by tboss2447 is this dialogue the same for both sides? \r
wasn't supposed to be an alternative version of genn's dialogue?\r
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It's the same dialogue for both sides. The Horde see this from the Alliance PoV so it all happens the same.\r
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Yes but, this could be interpreted as the one telling the story as unreliable narrator.\r
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i am pretty sure that there are alternative dialogues in the VO of genn.\r
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There are VO of alternative lines, but I don't know if they appear, when I ran it, greymane doesn't enter the room Comment by perculia Do you think that perhaps Greymane has his own agenda, then? Because for all his naivety, I sincerely doubt Anduin would consider himself anyone's "master." And as you said, he never alluded to Talanji as a hostage.\r
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I think everyone is interpreting Anduin's idea of negotiation differently. Anduin thinks everyone will sit around calmly and talk. Jaina assumes that if Rastakhan doesn't initiate peace, he's not interested (her line after Conclave). Greymane yells a token deal, and then doesn't hesitate to jump into the fight. Without Anduin present and taking a strong hand, he's not unifying the leaders. Comment by Njasey im kind of sure its not the same dialogue. alliance side was much different. and he was much more insulting. Comment by LePingre Do you think that perhaps Greymane has his own agenda, then? Because for all his naivety, I sincerely doubt Anduin would consider himself anyone's "master." And as you said, he never alluded to Talanji as a hostage.\r
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I think everyone is interpreting Anduin's idea of negotiation differently. Anduin thinks everyone will sit around calmly and talk. Jaina assumes that if Rastakhan doesn't initiate peace, he's not interested (her line after Conclave). Greymane yells a token deal, and then doesn't hesitate to jump into the fight. Without Anduin present and taking a strong hand, he's not unifying the leaders.\r
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i think we might see Anduin losing his throne later because of that until he has more experience Comment by Alixie He already gave away his daughter to their death loa, along with his entire future bloodline. All to save his crumbling empire and still lost. He's an idiot that made several bad deals for war and glory at the expense of his people and family.

Edit: Post was made before the true dialog was reported. Still, the author really wants Genn to be this warmonger that's manipulating Anduin. A token deal? A peaceful surrender is more than was ever offered to him by the Horde, and the Zandalari King went on a 5 minute rant that boiled down to "@#$% your offer." Which, ironically the whole "surrender your daughter" recount from the Horde solider feels like a Freudian slip because Rastakhan actually did sell off his daughter to the death loa in exchange of victory. Diplomacy wouldnt have worked anyway because he gave up too much to give up his kingdom. Comment by Kanktank I was just doing this encounter last night as Alliance, and I'm 90% sure Greymane has a much more reasoned dialogue. Comment by PureBG If you are playing Alliance when you get done with the trash and the RP start s Genn begins with "King Rastakhan of Zandalar.... On behalf of the Alliance, and in the name of King Anduin Wyrnn, I hereby request your surrender". King Rastakhan's dialogue is the same on both sides but at the end Genn concludes with, "So be it. Heroes... you know what must be done". Comment by infernobeckons Master? Anduin? What? Comment by drimvon Alliance basically is a catholic Spain in WoW. Comment by Yoco He already gave away his daughter to their death loa, along with his entire future bloodline. All to save his crumbling empire and still lost. He's an idiot that made several bad deals for war and glory at the expense of his people and family.\r
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He could either:\r
1. Leave his people and his daughter to die to the blood throlls.\r
2. Make a deal that might prove detrimental to her daughter over the time in order to save her and the Zandalari from a certain horrible death.\r
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He might not be the best king, but at least he got his priorities right that time. Comment by Suitaloo Ok, no. This article is full of lies. Nowhere does Genn mention Talanji on Alliance side, which is the correct version of events because you're actually physically present for it and it not being a flashback. I distinctly remember Genn's lines being somewhere along the lines of "On behalf of King Anduin Wrynn, we are here to formally request your surrender.", then Rastakhan's lines stay the same, until Genn's last lines being "I see. I'm sorry it had to come to this. Heroes, you know what to do."\r
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Please, before you write these articles, play through it on both sides, especially now that we know blizzard has been screwing with us to show two different sides of the story completely differently, first with the war of thorns, now with this. Comment by Nagassh Genn taking things into his own hands and making Alliance \/ Horde relations even more strained? Shocker.

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Rastakhan and Greymane Dialogue in Battle of Dazar'alor - Unreliable Narrator

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