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WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-Up: Patch 8.1 Released, Gathering Efficiencies & New Web-Based Tool

posted 2018/12/15 at 1:57 PM by Gumdrops

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Blizzard

New Follower Equipment

New basic equipment for Followers is now available from your Honorbound or 7th Legion reputation vendor.
Alchemists can now learn and craft a powerful new Follower item that bypasses the troop penalty on Stealth missions: Vial of Obfuscation.

New Heirlooms

Honorbound and 7th Legion quartermasters in the Warfront muster area in each capital offer new Heirlooms in exchange for Medals.
Hymnal of the 7th Legion (A trinket that temporarily increases your and your party's Haste)
Dwarven War Horn (A trinket that temporarily increases your and your party's Versatility)
Banded Gilnean Cloak (A cloak that increases your experience gains)
Kaldorei Powder of Twilight (A Trinket that, on use, temporarily reduces the threat you generate)
Tidesages' Warscroll (A trinket that temporarily increases your and your party's Haste)

Paragon Reputations

All Battle for Azeroth factions now offer repeatable Paragon reward caches when you earn reputation with them after reaching Exalted.
Rewards include toys such as the Bowl of Glowing Pufferfish and companion pets such as the Cobalt Raven.

Gold Rewards

World Quests and Missions now reward more gold.

Battle Pets: There’s Gnome Place Like Gnomeregan

You’re called to an all-new pet dungeon experience.

Completing the normal version of the pet dungeon rewards an Ultimate Battle-Training Stone, and completing the Challenge version rewards your very own Mini Spider Tank pet.

Professions

Keep an eye out for new additions to many Professions, including new gear, new feasts for your raid and dungeon groups, new Jewelcrafting rings, inscription Contracts for increased Honorbound and 7th Legion reputation, and new craftable pets.

Learn new Sanguicell recipes for Engineering, Alchemy, Enchanting, and Cooking.
Look out for the Enchanting new pet: Enchanted Tiki Mask.
Level 111-120 gems can no longer be placed into the sockets of items from previous expansions.
Darkmoon Faire quest-based skillups now apply automatically to the most recent expansion profession progress that is not at its maximum.
Professions-related World Quests now have a chance to reward Expulsom.
Herbalism World Quests now have a chance to reward Anchor Weed.

Mobile Companion App

Added new Missions and rewards.
Added new World Quests and additional zones: Arathi Highlands and Darkshore.
Fixed performance and disconnection issues.
Fixed a bug where Azerite Armor Caches showed incorrect item level.

World and Questing

Time to level from 1 to 110 has been reduced by approximately 25%.
Legion World Quests for the Highmountain Tribe, Nightfallen, Army of the Light, and Argussian Reach now reward increased reputation.

User Interface

Items which have stats that scale with your character’s level (such as gems in the auction house) will now show their stats at the maximum value.
While the scrapper UI is open, scrappable items will be marked with an overlaid icon.
The location of the scrapper will now show on your minimap.

Blizzard

December 11, 2018
Professions

Fixed a bug that allowed some Battle For Azeroth crafted gear to be worn by player characters who no longer had the crafting skill to create it.
Battle for Azeroth flasks and feasts now increase the primary stat for tanks (was Stamina).
Cooks can now learn and serve new Stamina foods.

Blizzard

Missions

Fixed a bug that caused Treasure Map missions to expire in 8 hours. They now expire in 72 hours.

Developers' note: This won't affect missions that are currently in a player's mission list, only newly-created missions.

Professions

Reverted yesterday's change to require Profession skill for using high iLvl crafted items.
A number of recipes have been adjusted so that the expulsom required by the recipe matches the amount of explusom returned when you scrapped the crafted item.

/u/dz5b605 shared on redditDid the post time of auctions massively improve in 8.1?

I just posted 200 auctions in a matter of seconds.Reins of the Thundering Ruby Cloud Serpent

A further change for #goldmaking in @Warcraft, the Alani mount appears to be BoE and only drops for the player using the crystal. You can put it on the AH now.. via /u/Krukza pic.twitter.com/33TfxqYEWN

— Gumdrops (@GumdropsEU) December 12, 2018Sky CrystalHow is patch 8.1 treating you so far? What has happened to the price of Sinister Combatant gear on your server, are you making any gold with that?Gathering Efficiencies/u/RedditStutt embarked on some extensive research to figure which is the best class and even race combination to gather things like herbs and oresStill having my lvl 110 boost from purchasing BFA, I came to the conclusion that using it to make a character for farming raw materials would be an apt use for it. Originally I was going to make a tauren druid, since that's what a quick google search told me is the fastest. But I was wondering if that really is the case? I did some research and reflection and came up with a bunch of stuff that might be useful for other people when making their dedicated herb/ore farming chars./u/RedditStuttCutting the choice down to 6 possibilities:

Core Race Tauren Druid
Highmountain Tauren Druid
Core Race Tauren Monk
Highmountain Tauren Monk
Core race Tauren Death Knight
Belf/Nelf Demon hunter (speed twink)

Which narrows the discussion down to being mostly about class choice, since the different types of tauren function in pretty much the same way.

Some factors to consider

The most important part of herb/ore farming are the fundamental 3 steps that get repeated when farming:

Move to a node
Harvest the node
Prepare to move to the next node (mount up)

Any farming advantages are usually connected to these 3 points. The core differences between the classes quickly comes down to how much time each class saves by cutting corners on the points they're good at.

While the Death Knight's mounted speed bonus is stated as 20%, that doesn't mean they move 20% faster between each node. Move Speed bonuses are calculated additively, and not multiplicatively, and there's many sources that simply don't stack. Factoring in some likely elements (Maxed flying skill, The guild perk "Mount Up" and Pathfinder Achievement speed bonuses ), a small bit of testing revealed that the on the same account, a DK is actually a maximum of 10% faster between each node on the ground, and surprisingly only 2.3% faster when flying! Of course the testing was not perfect as it was done quickly using a script instead of actual testing (/run print(GetUnitSpeed("player") / 7 * 100);), but nontheless points to how DKs aren't actually wildly much faster than the competition between each node.
Mounts have a 1.5 second cast time. For either Druid or Monk to be worth it over a DK, the 1.5 seconds saved from not needing to cast a mount needs to be greater than the difference in time between each node saved by the DK mounted speed aura.
Monks using Zen Flight reportedly only have a move speed bonus of 100% in flighted areas. That's less than a third of what a mounted flying speed bonus normally is (assuming the skill is maxed out). Considering that both druids and monks can pick herbs while mounted, and the only benefit to a monk would be mining without dismounting. While this is nice for being lazy, it also means that monks will spend more than twice the time between each node compared to other classes, if using the Zen Flight method (which is really the only seeming benefit to monks). Mining nodes would need to be extremely close to each other for monks to be worth it in this case, but even then druid don't lose much time from remounting since it's instant for them. Monks are currently thus just plain worse than druid and are thus removed from consideration, since you would never pick a monk over a druid for this.
A Feral specced druid moves nearly as fast as a DK on the ground, due to their passive Feline Swiftness which increased move speed by 15%, for a total of 235% movement speed in travel form (vs DK 240% mounted) while affected by the pathfinder achievement bonus mounted speed. But unlike DK, the bonus movement speed does not seem affect flighted speed.
The guild perk Mount Up did however increase the speed of druid flight form, giving druids a flight speed of 420%, where DKs have 430%, which is not a big difference, all thing considered.
I must admit I got no idea how fast a demon hunter can move, but I am going to assume it's not 330% faster than normal, even when stacking a ton of items and effects. So while they DHs may be better than the other classes at non-flying harvesting, they are probably safe to assume not the best general harvesters, as is the point of all this. DHs are thus removed from consideration.

This cuts it down to 3 possibilities

Core Race Tauren Druid
Highmountain Tauren Druid
Core race Tauren Death Knight

Which seems to mainly come down to which is best between Death Knights and druids. The benefits of each class that I know about are as following:
Death Knight: Moves 2-2.3% faster between nodes than feral druids do (Constant) - Waterwalking, cannot be slowed below 70% (Situational)
Druid: No time spent on the preparation step (0 seconds to mount) (Constant) - instant mount type switching, water breathing, stealth, passive move speed bonus in non-mount areas, slow fall possibility (Flap). (Situational)/u/RedditStutWhen not planning to use any specific farming items (Sky Golem, Monel-Hardened Stirrups, Monel-Hardened Hoofplates, etc) druids come out at the top of all classes, and I also found more arguments for making a Highmountain Tauren than a Core Race Tauren, with the most major drawback being a moot point for me, since I've already unlocked the allied race. With everything said, I'll be making a Highmountain Tauren Druid myself, but I'm curious about if other people have any arguments I've missed that could point things in a different direction. I found it interesting that I came to a different conclusion than the other post I linked, but ultimately I just think that's because they didn't properly calculate the effect of paladin speed boost.

P.S: Herb/ore looks kinda like herbivore. And that's what you'd think tauren are, but they actually also eat meat. I also spent way too long writing this post.reading the full post on redditReckles aka WTBGoldDo you enjoy farming materials, with or without professions? How do you keep track of pricing to make your profits? Do you have any other favourite gathering addons that help you farm more efficiently?New Web ToolChevronAuctionCraftSniperAuctionCraftSniper allows you to directly compare the total cost of materials with its current corresponding product buyout price, telling you what's worth crafting or sniping and what isn't.

All data is taken directly from the Blizzard Auction Data API and gets updated roughly once per hour - more importantly: the page will automatically analyze the newest data if you leave the tab opened.

Select your realm, the professions you'd like to inspect and an expansion level and you're ready to go!

support for previous expansions
setting to include Alchemy proc rates
setting for custom profit thresholds ( or %)
setting for personal Expulsom, Hydrocore, etc. price definitions

Which tools and resources do you use to help your gold-making decisions? Do you prefer to use web or mobile tools to make gold, vs in-game options?Further Reading/r/woweconomy subredditDiscord serverstreaming live on Twitch@GumdropsEU

Comments

Comment by trestRogue has grown on me as a gathering class. The quick cooldowns on stealth and sap make it the best when there’s a hostile mob on a node — save the time that would otherwise have to be spent fighting. (Applies just to current content since gathering in old content generally means a single hit to take out a mob on a node, if they even notice you to aggro.) This will be less of an issue once we have flying again, but I’ve been happier with my 120 rogue herbalist, in the BfA zones, over my druid given all the fights I get to skip.Comment by mybelovedchaosI miss the mobile app a lot. It didn't matter if my prices were the best using it or not. Being able to sell while not logged in was great. Maybe soon it'll com back but I don't see it until the 'AH rework' they keep talking about is done.Comment by Evolyn1877The website is really awesome and has a lot of room to grow! It'll be even more useful to see the price per expulsom in the crafted section since some of the biggest margins assume expulsom is 0.00g.

I like that I can pull my server data in a few clicks and not have to be logged into WoW using 1 to 3 addons to do the same work.Comment by gdawsonLoved the gathering addons video. I've used GatherMate and TSM for a long time, but I didn't know about FarmHUD and FasterLoot. Those are excellent quality of life improvements, and FarmHUD is also helps fill the gap left by the demise of Archaeology Helper.

I also agree with Evolyn about the AuctionCraftSniper website. Definitely nice to be able to see what the markets look like at a glance without having to log in on every alt.Comment by kweebiaI agree for mining I usually use a rogue since nodes tend to have mobs parked on top and you can't mine fast enough to mine in between attacks. If you have the Tauren fast herbing you can actually herb between attacks if you time it right, but I've never been able to get it to work with mining. So I usually go with a rogue for sap and also because you can stealth into caves. There are a bunch of nodes in the northern section of Silver Stream that are in caves and rogues work great for that.Comment by Gothyhmm that website looks great once I learn how to use it properly.

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