The only time I'll be getting the chests is when I max out rep from 1400 ap and 2kg emissary quests. The wq are a chore with next to useless rewards. Why bother with wq that award useless gear that is worse than the ones I'm wearing? And the ap you get from the wq (while they did decrease the amount needed, it still takes forever to get to the higher levels) is minimal at best and you can't quickly catch up to your main's levels if you decided to switch (Unlike in legion where the ap knowledge quickly got you caught up to at least a good minimum level).
Warbeast Kraal Dinner Bell... can't wait. My undead will no longer have to feast alone!
\r\rA currency from the chests, preferably account-wide, in addition to very substantial quantities of resources and Azerite, would be the ideal way to go in my opinion. Then people could pick their rewards from the list of cosmetic items, pets and toys or even trade in their coins for a quick boost of extra AP. The more options in a case like this, the better to minimize player base exclusion without stacking yet another layer of unwanted RNG on players.\r\r\rI find it very weird that people are essentially now saying "I don't want to grind anymore, I just want to be able to buy all the things", when I don't think that has ever really been an option in WoW before. Sure, you had badge gear from BC onwards, but people HATED 'welfare epics'.\r\rThe Legiondaries and Azerite gear, maybe.\r\rBut really, why don't we just go full on P2W if this is the road you all want to go down?\r\rRaiders hated "welfare epics". The kind of people who enjoy collecting for the sake of collecting largely love them. Makes it easier to collect stuff when you can kill things easier.
I find it very weird that people are essentially now saying "I don't want to grind anymore, I just want to be able to buy all the things", when I don't think that has ever really been an option in WoW before. Sure, you had badge gear from BC onwards, but people HATED 'welfare epics'.The Legiondaries and Azerite gear, maybe.But really, why don't we just go full on P2W if this is the road you all want to go down?While we're talking about Wow of yore, reputations also didn't exceed exalted. This was excellent because it didn't allow a lazy way for devs to get people to play more without having to do any additional development. Seriously consider that for 2 expansions now they have you do the same quests you did for leveling at max level and then threw on a putrid layer of RNG on top of it to make it last longer.
well at least there's no mounts so i have absolutely no reason to grind of of these :D
You should always get toy\/pet from every box this is ridiculous \/pointless grind which is not interesting\/fun at all ....
Will not play the RNG game with rep. Won\u2019t do it, sorry. Too much work for no reward. Real life is hard enough, thanks.
At first i thought the same thing, I collect mounts anytime im not doing m+ or in a raid. After legion paragon grinds i think i have no problem with no mounts from paragons in bfa. I was doing paragons since they came out and just a few days a 2-3 month into the next expansion i have finally completed the mounts, i consider my self lucky with drop rate. some friends been doing them same rate as me or a bit slower and they only have 2\/3 of the mounts. also as for incentive, i think adding mounts to warfront and IE instead of paragons is a better idea to make people to play those instead of doing WQ.PS: this was a replay to someone and i failed miserably to click the replay button. im just gonna leave my failure here.
\r\rA currency from the chests, preferably account-wide, in addition to very substantial quantities of resources and Azerite, would be the ideal way to go in my opinion. Then people could pick their rewards from the list of cosmetic items, pets and toys or even trade in their coins for a quick boost of extra AP. The more options in a case like this, the better to minimize player base exclusion without stacking yet another layer of unwanted RNG on players.\r\r\rI find it very weird that people are essentially now saying "I don't want to grind anymore, I just want to be able to buy all the things", when I don't think that has ever really been an option in WoW before. Sure, you had badge gear from BC onwards, but people HATED 'welfare epics'.\r\rThe Legiondaries and Azerite gear, maybe.\r\rBut really, why don't we just go full on P2W if this is the road you all want to go down?\r\rArgent Tournament Seals? \r\rTol Barad Commendations? \r\rWarsong Gulch \/ Arathi Basin \/ Alterac Valley tokens? \r\rHalaa tokens? \r\rCurrencies existed back in the day, the RNG on top of RNG everywhere is the current shift, because everything needs to be a luck-based roulette, instead of "I grinded 100 tokens therefore I can get something more than the guy who only grinded 50", that was fair and rewarded you proportionally to how much time you devoted to it. \r\rAnd how is grinding IN-GAME currency a "p2w"?
So they removed all the mounts i had my hopes up for. I wonder if I should stop playing now while its fun.\r\rWhy would you want to grind rep forever? I am still missing 3 paragon mounts from Legion, even though I had maxed out 9 order hall setups and did missions on them fairly frequently throughout Legion. I think I am up to 67 Valarjar caches total without a mount. Thats a grind to exalted on several characters in addition to 10 000 rep x 67 = 670 000 paragon reputatio for ONE mount that I still haven't gotten. I know I am happy to not see mounts in the paragon chest, and thank god I'm not as focused on toys\/pet. I can only say I feel sorry for those who are, if the drop chance resemble the ones for mounts in Legion.
Honestly, the only reason I liked the Legion paragon rewards was the chance of a mount. I was looking forward to what the BFA factions would offer. Unless the mounts are being kept secret, I am seriously disappointed. Zero incentive to farm WQs, for me at least.\r\rI only do emissaries if they're offering resources, gold, or AP now...and toys\/pets are not going to incentivize me to do them otherwise
Honestly, the only reason I liked the Legion paragon rewards was the chance of a mount. I was looking forward to what the BFA factions would offer. Unless the mounts are being kept secret, I am seriously disappointed. Zero incentive to farm WQs, for me at least.No. Mounts were deliberately removed due to the horror grinds that people endured trying to get them in Legion. I was doing them on 5 characters per week and I still don't have 3 of the mounts despite playing for the entirety of Legion.Took me 12 characters to get them all, eventually, in 7.3.5. And there were 7 factions with meaningful paragon rewards after 7.3. Now there are 10. And no boa tokens. (100 dubloons for 250 rep is a joke, considering the currency is also used for collectibles). So quite glad there are no mounts, will slowly try to get the paragon rewards but unlikely to grind emissaries.
No mounts O.o ? Really ?\r\rThat's disappointing.
I like these incentives. I'm still running legion paragon cache's on 3-5 toons because i'm missing the carpet from the nightfallen and one of the three lightforged eleks. I am a little worried about being made to do this on both factions, though, as I mainly play alliance (and there's advantages to having most of my alts on the same side). That said, great rewards; No mounts means less pressure to get them, and hopefully the droprates can be a little more lenient too.
250 rep for 100 dubloons? this is not even bad joke, that's just sad...And an Alliance only glyph? I don't like it as a scribe considering how screwed BFA recipes for inscription are, but imagine all those Horde frost mages being locked out of elemental tint change... RIP
Completely and utter no reason to do paragon caches, absurdly irrrelevant now.
thank god there are no mounts, i can skip the paragon stuff alltogether\r\rand of the paragon drops are 1% like the mounts then it will be just a small bonus and not a forced grind
I don't see why there are people that want mounts on this, it's not like you would actually get then (probably would take the whole xpac to get half of then), the paragon chests should be just a small reward for not feeling the extra WQs you did where totally useless. The AP and gold alone do it.\r\rAlso, Horde bias? Because of toys?\rAlly gets an exclusive glyph and more pets that they can sell at the AH and make a good profity over horde players. I would choose this over toys at any time. (but I would not give up Meerah's Jukebox, which is way cooler than Jaina's).
More stuff that should have been at release and everything is just too late and not worth the sub anymore. 100 tokens for 250 rep what a scam...
wow... more paragons: I'm at 38 paragon chests opened with the army of the light (still 1 mount missing) and 33 with the wardens (still no toy).\rtotally misleading from the world "paragon": a person or thing viewed as a model of excellence: it seems that 380k of reputation farmed are not enough yet\rthe paragon system should be removed from the game or at least we should get a currency every time from that paragon chest to buy the paragon rewards.
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