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Changes to Professions in the Battle for Azeroth Pre-Expansion Patch

posted 2018/07/12 at 7:24 PM by perculia

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Comment by Itacolomi how classic goes to 300 if legion goes to 100? LMAO Comment by KoleBigEars So, wait. If I'm at 800 now and I only get 100 in BfA, does that make me 100\/300 in "classic'? How is that right? I am NOT releveling classic recipes just to re-max it....the wording is very confusing. Comment by Raspb3rry So, wait. If I'm at 800 now and I only get 100 in BfA, does that make me 100\/300 in "classic'? How is that right? I am NOT releveling classic recipes just to re-max it....the wording is very confusing.

The way it works is if you're at 800, you're maxed out for every prior Xpac and you'll be 0\/100 for BFA crafting

Attached a picture link, my smithing was at 800 on beta and this is how it's portrayed

https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/1pSfLVx Comment by KoleBigEars \r
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Attached a picture link, my smithing was at 800 on beta and this is how it's portrayed\r
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https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/1pSfLVx\r
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That feels like the MoP cooking way of doing things. The visual helps, thank you. Comment by broken0chaos That feels like the MoP cooking way of doing things. The visual helps, thank you.\r
Essentially, it is. For anyone who's done MoP cooking, this should feel very familiar. Comment by Volardelis how classic goes to 300 if legion goes to 100? LMAO

Because in vanilla, professions were capped at 300.

Then in TBC the cap was raised to 375, therefore TBC added 75 skill points, same with Wrath, cata and MoP. Comment by Magnognomus If I got it right it is going to be similar like Pandaren cooking where we had sub classes. Means If you 800 you get:\r
Classic 300\/300\r
Outland 75\/75\r
Northrend 75\/75\r
Cataclysm 75\/75\r
Pandaren 75\/75\r
Draenor 100\/100\r
Legion 100\/100\r
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Kult Tiras and Zandalar 0\/150\r
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If you take a new profession than all the old ones will be 0\/300, 0\/75 etc and you can start crafting straight to Kult Tiras and Zandalar and doesn't have to go through the old world stuff. If one day you decide to collect the Pandaren recepies you can go back and level it up, but that's a different story and not mandatory. This way everyone starts from the same level at new expansion launch date and you can jump on any profession. Comment by SquirePip how classic goes to 300 if legion goes to 100? LMAO\r
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It goes like that because for every profession each expansion is essential it's own \/ different profession now where you can have BfA Leatherworking and nothing else if you want. Comment by vindurza Darn blizz and their removal of a fun RP proff Comment by SilverDragon234 Professions never change, perc. Remember that. Comment by Spectrence how classic goes to 300 if legion goes to 100? LMAO\r
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um, it's a seperate thing? classic goes from 0\/300. legion has its own skill: 0\/100. maybe if you took the time to think about it instead of hitting all caps "LMAO" >.> Comment by Cheesecaker I wonder how gathering skills will be affected by this. Will I be able to gather Cobalt Ore right away, or will I still get Cobalt Ore Nuggets until a certain level?

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I tested on the Beta, copied my Miner at skill level 221. Took the portal to Pandaria and mined the first node I found, got 6xGhost Iron Ore and not Ghost Iron Nugget. I did *not* get a skill point in Mining. Checked my professions, I only have Classic Mining and Legion Mining learned, Classic at 221\/300 and Legion at 1\/100. Learned Pandaria Mining (which is ONLY available from the trainer in Pandaria) and the first Ghost Iron node I found gave me a skill point in Pandaria Mining (and 4xGhost Iron Ore). So it looks like ore\/herb\/leather fragments are gone finally! Comment by KikkTheGnome Is the leveling of the remaining secondary professions separated by xpac as well? Comment by gunsotsu "In the past few expansions, Blizzard has tried to experiment with profession catch-up mechanisms to aid players so they do not have to grind through hundreds of skill ranks just to craft expansion-appropriate recipes. With this new system, now players can focus on leveling professions for a certain expansion."

no..you have not. you have been all over the place making unwanted changes that do not benefit professions whatsoever and poorly affect gameplay.

warlords - removal of profession perks, removal of most gem slots, removal of belt buckles. removal of most enchant slots. the strange decision to restrict most enchants to a certain ilvl (which direclty effects players wishing to do old content that requires certain things)

legion - removal of most beneficial glyphs, no weapon enchants whatsoever, a glitched out profession levelling system that had most ppl stuck at 700 and was never fixed! (nor was the 150g it costs to fix it yourself ever reimbursed to the player..its 150g for crying out loud..coome on)
old profession items (sky golem, many pets and other mounts, the reborn weapons) that take a month to make (and only one can be worked on at a time) were given no support for continued produciton with the inflation of the economy. 60k for a skygolem? lmfao!
professions now gated behind raiding and dungeon content..not everyone wants to participate in this.
the "mass milling" system in warlords, was not continued.
no bonus skill points for creating any legion recipe..leaving most ppl stuck leveling there professions in their garrison..

the irrelevance of bags, drums of fury, potions and many other items (the warlords counterparts are better if not the same.)

no new weapons to craft
crafted legendary gear that was beyond terrible except in wpvp situations

what was good

spirit cauldrons (which you couldn't make anyways cuz couldn't get alchemy to 800 due to glitch blizzard never fixed)
vantus runes (never seen ppl use them..but okay)
new pets and mounts
boot anchors (which for some reason actually proved useful)
profesion quests
tomes of illusion

Battle for azeroth

what was good - removal of first aid as a profession (will be welcomed in tailoring and alchemy)

what needs to change

continued support for bonus point system
belt buckles, gear customization need to come back
if someone wants to put defeat viciduous they shouldn't have to carry a second weapon on them in their bag just to use elemental force ..ridiculous like seriously. lame.
new bags ..or will this be the 3rd expansiion we are stuck crafting hexweave bags because cheaper and faster.
new updated engineering gadgets
new updated drums
alchemy potions that don't provide stat increases with little to no difference from the same potions the previous expansion.

INCORPORATION OF ALL GATHERING PROFESSIONS INTO ONE PROFESSION CALLED GATHERING..THEY ARE DONG THIS ANYWAY WITH THE BOON ENCHANTS SO WHY NOT.

mining, skinning, cloth gathering, food gathering, herbalism, all as one professoin

continued perks to archaelogy to make it actually viable. (they have done good on this since warlords tbh)
account bound reputation needs to be continued (legion did good with this allowing all tokens to be account bound once one character gets exlated), however, the old content (pre pandaria) needs to be effected by this. there are many profession items that you can only get exalted (mostly gear plans). you should not have to get 70 reps exalted on 6 toons to benefit from this. a lot of the said reps are a pain in the butt to grind out also. on top of this..how many moonwells are in broken isles? and yet..not one of them can be used to craft moon cloth? yes, ppl care about mooncloth still..especially priests who want the mog. if it says "requires moonwell" then it should work at any moonwell in game.
when you craft an item, you should learn that appearence for yourself. but only if crafted, regular boe gear no.
updates to the profession ui would be great.. you should be able to search for items based on whether you learned the appearence.
some changes to older items that are notorious for how long it takes to farm the matts. (similar to what they did with enchanting)
this is azeroth..it is reasonable to think that plants grow in more than just one place right? same with minerals.
mobs that drop certain things in outlands, should also drp the same things in kultiras..

you see a sporebat it drops mote of magic..and so does this sporebat on draenor. if its of the same mob type, it should drop the same items, regardless of where it is located and what level it is. or at least have a chance to.

and please..on an unrelated note

please no more "sisters of the" , no more demon raids, no more just no more..please make raid content that is origional. you have been using the same boss skins, same boss mechanics since throne of thunder. we have fought the burning legion for 5 yeras..enough! i am assuming, story wise, that bfa will be the final expansion. (they will not be making another dragon expansion because the last one failed so infinite flight will probably be a patch) so..blizzard, go out with a bang okay. no more nonsense. your player base basically consists of a bunch of 2 year olds who cannot follow simple instructions and sit around all day trolling ppl. its time you return to your roots and do what is right.. Comment by Dracold I don't understand how it works if I start a new profession with a skill 1 and then I proceed in making for example 349 skillups from the mats in the BfA. Do I end up getting 300 Classic skill and 50 Burning Crusade skill, or 150 BfA skill and 200 Classic skill, or 150 BfA skill and no other skill?\r
Depending on what high end recipes you want to use, it may get even harder now than it used to. Comment by kodora1316 I wonder how gathering skills will be affected by this. Will I be able to gather Cobalt Ore right away, or will I still get Cobalt Ore Nuggets until a certain level?\r
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I tested on the Beta, copied my Miner at skill level 221. Took the portal to Pandaria and mined the first node I found, got 6xGhost Iron Ore and not Ghost Iron Nugget. I did *not* get a skill point in Mining. Checked my professions, I only have Classic Mining and Legion Mining learned, Classic at 221\/300 and Legion at 1\/100. Learned Pandaria Mining (which is ONLY available from the trainer in Pandaria) and the first Ghost Iron node I found gave me a skill point in Pandaria Mining (and 4xGhost Iron Ore). So it looks like ore\/herb\/leather fragments are gone finally!\r
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Woo hoo! I hated that system. Nice to get the point but the nuggets were awful! Comment by Soeroah God damn, Gunsotsu, that was a lot of words to type for missing the point.\r
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I don't understand how it works if I start a new profession with a skill 1 and then I proceed in making for example 349 skillups from the mats in the BfA. Do I end up getting 300 Classic skill and 50 Burning Crusade skill, or 150 BfA skill and 200 Classic skill, or 150 BfA skill and no other skill?\r
Depending on what high end recipes you want to use, it may get even harder now than it used to.\r
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At 349 Tailoring you'd convert to 300\/300 Classic and 49\/whatever TBC tailoring.\r
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It basically divides the single bar up into the expansion pieces. It's pretty easy to track where you should be; if you're at level 600, you've leveled all the way through Classic, TBC, Wrath, Cataclysm and MoP professions, and so you are given a full bar for those ones, with any points over that going toward the next bar to fill. If you want Legion progression, it will only count points above 700.\r
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Think of it like the current profession bar is a large pitcher of lemonade, and we're dividing it into a bunch of glasses of various sizes, which need to be filled in order. 300 points into classic first, then 75 in TBC, 75 in Wrath, etc. Comment by Ditju The only thing I am concerned about is that you might no longer be able to use the WoD-professions to power-level. Now you'll probably have to level classic blacksmithing by buying thorium bars, bc with khorium bars and so on. So for completionists it might get even more difficult. Comment by Dracold God damn, Gunsotsu, that was a lot of words to type for missing the point.

I don't understand how it works if I start a new profession with a skill 1 and then I proceed in making for example 349 skillups from the mats in the BfA. Do I end up getting 300 Classic skill and 50 Burning Crusade skill, or 150 BfA skill and 200 Classic skill, or 150 BfA skill and no other skill?
Depending on what high end recipes you want to use, it may get even harder now than it used to.

At 349 Tailoring you'd convert to 300\/300 Classic and 49\/whatever TBC tailoring.

It basically divides the single bar up into the expansion pieces. It's pretty easy to track where you should be; if you're at level 600, you've leveled all the way through Classic, TBC, Wrath, Cataclysm and MoP professions, and so you are given a full bar for those ones, with any points over that going toward the next bar to fill. If you want Legion progression, it will only count points above 700.

Think of it like the current profession bar is a large pitcher of lemonade, and we're dividing it into a bunch of glasses of various sizes, which need to be filled in order. 300 points into classic first, then 75 in TBC, 75 in Wrath, etc.

As a sidenote: I used the number 349 when talking about obtaining skill up, because I think you start with skill one, so you'd get 350 in total.
But if it's how you are explaining it, then I see no difference from the current system since Legion and Draenor (and maybe MoP, I didn't skill up there). There you can use that expansion's recipes to craft things and skill up till you reach the maximum skill obtainable by the item you create. The only difference between this and this new thing is that you now have neat categories for all previous expansions in your profession UI (not just the Draenor and Legion folder for recipes). So you won't need to scroll like 10 pages between Cataclysm chest and Cataclysm pants. That surely sounds good, but it is nothing except an UI change. Which I think is not apparent from the text of this post. Comment by Bergelmir how classic goes to 300 if legion goes to 100? LMAO\r
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Because Classic covers players spanning 60 levels, while Legion only covers 10. With the amount of recipes from the classic content compared to the expansions, it makes sense to have it this way.

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