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Talk Azeroth: Episode 11, Battlefield Barrens and Eternally In The Vale Removed in 5.4

posted 2013/08/16 at 11:25 AM by perculia

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Comment by grammieof9 You STILL are not saying a whole lot about us, the Alliance or is this game being turned into World of Hordecraft? Let's learn more about our part in this and less about that spoiled child Garrosh. We have 2 princes here who seem to have been written out of the story. But hey, you wrote us draenei out of it 2 xpacks ago.. Comment by Keelerak You STILL are not saying a whole lot about us, the Alliance or is this game being turned into World of Hordecraft? Let's learn more about our part in this and less about that spoiled child Garrosh. We have 2 princes here who seem to have been written out of the story. But hey, you wrote us draenei out of it 2 xpacks ago..\r
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There will always be some people who complain. Dude, you get to siege Orgrimmar. Siege. Orgrimmar. The Horde capital, you know. You get to kill the Warchief, canon-wise, not just some PvP achievement. Seriously, wtf is your problem? Comment by Rankkor I spotted several typos perc =P\r
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The weekly quests for Battlefield Barrens, as well as most special vanity items, are being removed in 5.3. You will not be able to get Latent Kor'kron transmog armor or any Darkspear Rebellion vanity gear after the patch, or complete Hordebreaker\/ Darkspear Revolutionary and get the resulting title.\r
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Eternally in the Vale will be removed from Vale of Eternal Blossoms as the zone undergoes some major changes from the Patch 5.4: Siege of Orgrimmar trailer. You will still be able to hit Exalted with the Golden Lotus, complete quests that grant achievements, and farm Alani Alani.\r
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With the patch coming pretty soon, you're probably best off supplementing daily rep gains with Stolen Golden Lotus Insignia from Zandalari Warbringer, making sure to do Work Order: Golden Lotus II at your farm every day, and seleting Golden Lotus for bonus dungeon and scenario rep. Be sure to pick up Grand Commendation of the Golden Lotus at revered to speed your reputation gains along if you want Eternally in the Vale.\r
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You STILL are not saying a whole lot about us, the Alliance or is this game being turned into World of Hordecraft? Let's learn more about our part in this and less about that spoiled child Garrosh. We have 2 princes here who seem to have been written out of the story. But hey, you wrote us draenei out of it 2 xpacks ago..\r
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There will always be some people who complain. Dude, you get to siege Orgrimmar. Siege. Orgrimmar. The Horde capital, you know. You get to kill the Warchief, canon-wise, not just some PvP achievement. Seriously, wtf is your problem?\r
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I have no idea.\r
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The alliance so far has canonically invaded not one but TWO of our capitals, and gets to canonically kill one of our racial leaders, they get to keep their airship in the jade forest while ours goes in flames 15 minutes after ariving, they get to keep their Admiral Taylor while we lose General Nazgrim, a character many of us grew attached to, in 5.1 they get a scenario were they deliver a crushing and humilliating defeat to the horde, which includes being turned into exploding chickens, while we get a scenario were we see one of our most beloved characters stabbed in the neck and have to fight our own people.\r
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In 5.2 Jaina gets the power of a demi-god while the horde gets the triple A bateries of a golem.\r
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And now they get to siege our capital, kill a large chunk of our forces, be named Hordebreaker and Conqueror of Orgrimmar, and they get to WIN THE FRIKKING WAR................................... and some people still whine and cry.\r
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I honest to god, don't understand some people. Comment by Stabhorn Garrosh is the first leader to be killed canon-wise (unless you want to count Sylvanas dying in Quel'thas and to Lord Godfrey.) Comment by BrightBrown So why can't they say they plan to drop it on 8\/27, barring any serious issues?\r
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Two things concern me, the neutering of Combustion for Fire Mages and no more (new) Valor gear available.\r
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And if the rares on TI are like IoT, cloth wearers <535+ ilvl may have issues soloing them. OTOH, being no tap means in the first month, there should be enough folks "around" to make that a non-issue. The problem may lie 2-3 months in. Comment by Rankkor So why can't they say they plan to drop it on 8\/27, barring any serious issues?\r
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Because then if something happens, people will complain. They prefer to be vague and say as little as possible to prevent backlashes.\r
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And if the rares on TI are like IoT, cloth wearers <535+ ilvl may have issues soloing them.\r
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Depends on the cloth wearer. I don't see warlocks ever having a problem with those. Specially demo locks. Comment by Rystrave I spotted several typos perc =P\r
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WEEOOWEEOO grammar police are here!\r
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I'm curious what a full set of Latent armor looks like... I tried figuring it out on the model viewer but there's no 3D models of it from what I can see. Comment by suplup I spotted several typos perc =P\r
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WEEOOWEEOO grammar police are here!\r
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I'm curious what a full set of Latent armor looks like... I tried figuring it out on the model viewer but there's no 3D models of it from what I can see.\r
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It's the same as replica armor from the Darkmoon Faire, except for monks and DKs, who have questing greens and the 2nd set of starting gear, respectively. Comment by trest Some other things going away in the patch:

Currencies
Conquest Points will be converted to Honor Points at the end of the season, and any Honor above 4,000 will be converted to gold at a rate of 35 silver per point.
The conversion rate for Justice Points to Honor Points have changed. The conversion rate is now 500 Justice per 250 Honor (up from 375 Justice per 250 Honor).

Achievements
I saw this mentioned in one place a couple weeks ago, but haven't been able to find the mention again. Can someone confirm this, please?
Glory of the Ulduar Raider (10 player) and Glory of the Ulduar Raider (25 player)
These achievements are being converted to feats of strength and the mounts they award (Reins of the Rusted Proto-Drake and Reins of the Ironbound Proto-Drake) will no longer be available. Players who have the mounts before the patch will keep them.

PVP
Season 13 items with rating requirements will no longer be available for purchase.
No more arena teams. Instead, players can enter arena battles with any other level-appropriate players (no team required), and ratings will be tracked on a per-character basis (instead of per-team).

NPCs
Stone Trogg Berserker now drops trivial items and can no longer be pickpocketed.
Stone Trogg Geomancer now drops trivial items and can no longer be pickpocketed.

Enchanting
Items formerly obtained with Valor Points that now cost Justice Points as well as gear crafted from new PvP recipes or plans will now disenchant into Sha Crystal Fragments. Comment by Nulgar \r
I saw this mentioned in one place a couple weeks ago, but haven't been able to find the mention again. Can someone confirm this, please?\r
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These achievements are being converted to feats of strength Nah, there was just a tooltip change, I think it was the 10man version dropping the "account-wide progress", that got people all panicky. The current tooltips\/detail pages show no difference:\r
Glory of the Ulduar Raider (10 player) (Live)\r
Glory of the Ulduar Raider (10 player) (PTR) Comment by adkelly I spotted several typos perc =P\r
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WEEOOWEEOO grammar police are here!\r
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I'm curious what a full set of Latent armor looks like... I tried figuring it out on the model viewer but there's no 3D models of it from what I can see.\r
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You can look on the original guide OR click on Latent Korkron Armor and hover over the second link and it should pop up for you. Comment by KittyFox A couple of comments regarding Olivia's statements.\r
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1. They said that they are not doing anything with your JP and VP. You don't need to speculate that they will not change, they aren't going to change.\r
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2. You said you wildly speculated that they would allow you to "roll on" or "pick" specs that you want for your heirloom drop. They've also stated that the first heirloom drop you get will be for your current LootSpec on that character. Future heirloom drops will be completely random across ALL possible classes\/specs. Comment by WizzardlordUK owts?....and i thought it was alts. Which is short for "alternative". Comment by Clockw0rk Doesn't Eternally in the Vale count as a Loremaster achievement (not for the meta, but just in 'zone complete' fashion)?\r
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If this is being retired as a feat of strength, don't we need some.. new 'zone complete' achievement? \r
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I really hope they have some epilogue "Nothing lasts forever" achievement for doing some quests concerning the Vale's destruction and eventual rebuilding. Comment by Azrile The heirlooms are going to be personal loot for normal and hard. The first one is your current spec, any after are completely random. Comment by perculia We got Talk Azeroth shared a day later than usual because yesterday had the awesome 5.4 trailer as well as our XIVDB announcement. It's always risky covering PTR stuff when it changes so frequently, and it looks like we just had some bad timing where some PTR information reveals came up right after Talk Azeroth was produced. Comment by TmrAsakura i dont really get why they wouldn't allow us to be able to get the troll shoes from kor'kron mobs as well Comment by Opponent Who the hell is Olivia? :\/ Comment by tmptfate With the patch coming pretty soon, you're probably best off supplementing daily rep gains with Stolen Golden Lotus Insignia from Zandalari Warbringer, making sure to do Work Order: Golden Lotus II at your farm every day, and selecting Golden Lotus for bonus dungeon and scenario rep.

Killing any of the new Sha in the Vale gives Golden Lotus Rep, so its a joke to do in 5.4. They respawn fairly fast and the zone is half covered in them. Comment by soccerplayersp poopie

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