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CRZs affect more than just gold farmers. My multi-seater mounts are STILL broken and if I ride on one that my friends have, I get disconnected and/or dismounted and killed by crossing through crzs, multiple times. It has caused more headaches than it has solved... that being said however, I don't think CRZs are the main reason for the decline in subs. Casual raiding guilds like the one I'm in have been badly affected by Looking For Raid. Guilds are falling apart left and right (I know people who have migrated at least 4 times in a short period of time because the guilds they join fall apart or just die out).. and now all that's left in terms of strong guilds are levelling guilds and hardcore raiding guilds... the rest of us are floundering and I wouldn't be surprised if that's a factor in some of the lost subs.
imo blizz has tried to keep accounts active rather than real players happy. they over look things like pvp botting for example yeah they catch a few and slap em with a few day ban but the effected players are the ones who suffer. yeah your keeping those accounts active but your frusrtating the others who are actually behind the keyboard playing. the lets say 3 of the 10 accounts in bg botting yeah you keep those 3 active but ya piss off the other 7 and they say screw it you aint gonna fix this ongoing issue im out. i quit for a long time just because of this issue. i still rarely pvp because of it. this is just one of the problems i know i am just venting
Just an insane moron rambling here but I think Blizzard would earn a considerable amount of subscribers by upgrading the engine wow runs on. It's starting to get way to restricting and old.
I don't think that this can be explained by any one thing or another. Almost 2 million is a lot of people and they are surely all going to have their own reasons for not wanting to play the game anymore. I, for one, have quit in the past for extended (up to 2 years) periods, but I've come back for Pandaria and I'm really enjoying the campaign this time around. Furthermore, I haven't even completed some of the other non-essential parts of the game (pet battling and the latest tier of LFR to name two off the top of my head) so I'll be in game for the long haul. I've also found a good community within the game to play because many of my friends have moved on to other things. It's just about what you want to take from the game and if it still providing that. Will it ever reach the heights of 10+ million again? Probably only if Blizzard announces that the game is nearing the end and they get legacies that come back to see it off. TLDR: The game will fluctuate, this is probably the new normal (wide fluctuations), and not the end of the world. It won't stop people from speculating, though.
I quit cuz my pc broke down and don't have money for a new one, but after quitting i just felt released cuz the daily quest hunt has become very tedious and i was only collecting pets and mounts since i was also on a dead server and without raiding it's not worth the monthly fee, plus all the new content bringing u back to old zones isn't rly helping the game since most will feel the need to puke when seeing the old stuff they've done so many times before, and of course the CRZ made things even worse, so hope it declines further so they might actually start listening to the fanbase again
8.3 million subscribers is still roughly 125 million dollars in gross revenue with WoW subs alone. That doesn't include store sales, digital downloads, dividends, etc. I think they'll do just fine even with the decline in subs. People may grow tired of playing WoW over the years, but much like Tina and Mike, they will always end back up together...until one of them dies that is.
I busted my hump getting exaulted in all MOP factions. drove me to my wits end with dailies and they didn't fix jack as far as that goes. the throne of thunder dailies are redeculiously long. I wont be doing that grind anymore as I don't have near the time anymore with work picking up but TBH I wont stop playing. just wish they would do something about dailies I have to agree with some of the comments on that feels like world of dailies. enough complaining though props for the raid content and mechanics for some of the raids. I love how ppl always call LFR a sight seeing run or make wise cracks about it being easy and now I cant get into a PUG group to save my life that downs LEI SHEN on the 1st attempt. In closing theres always going to be bad and good I guess so I just wanted to give blizzard some props and not be completely negative. Im not going anywhere keep it coming just shorten or delete the dailies for those who have jobs lol
Remove this CRZ crap and merge servers or offer a one time, free character migration for all characters on a single server to another server of their choice. That would help, but they won't do it because they'd lose that transfer money. The current state of the lower population servers, and all of the guilds on them with swindling numbers that they can't replenish make the lose of subscribers absolutely unsurprising to me. It can't be a shock to them either.
I actually quiet enjoy the questline starting in Pandaria, although as mentioned in some comments before, once I hit 90 I don't feel like the game offers enough to keep people playing it at much as the previous expansions did. For me, the new talent system kinda dragged my want to play down a bit, the old system you could mix and create a really nice build suitable for either pvp or pve, now I feel more like it's choose the right talent or die because of that one talent isn't right. Then again, it's as simple to change. I've been in wow 8 years now, and for me I prefer much more the old talent builds.To jump over to the CRZ, I found it amazing at some points, where you could fight off rare mobs, or raid with your friends cross-realm, but lvling on a large pvp server ( Twisting Nether - Horde ) For example.. There are like.. 200+ skeletons lying on the ground in front of the dark portal, and there's constantly massacre's in outlands, this I found rather.. less enjoyable.Many say the CRZ only affected the gold farmers, may be, maybe not, there are so many opinions around the whole thing.As a vanilla player, I would much more prefer to go a little back to the old style, as I much more enjoyed up to cata in both pve and pvp. Now as I've read in the 5.3 notes, pvp really fell since cata imo, I enjoyed alot of pvp, but now, with the base 40% resi, and with 5.3 removing the resi from the gear makes it just like 60, where the gear had no resi and could be used in pve aswell, this takes abit away the fun being in pve <.<.. As Haveck says the friendly community has died alot, it's true. back a while, I didn't know where anything was in ogrimmar, but luckily for me, I asked in trade and got like.. 30 answers at once, and none negative. Now if you ask you either start a flame-fest in trade chat, or you get nothing. as for dungeons to, if you are a tank or healer, and someone dies, they will flame you endlessly instead of perhaps helping you get better at what you do..I'm just saying, putting things a little bit more old-school would attract more people back to the game, I spend 2h+ doing all the panda dailies on one character, after that I don't feel like doing dailies on another char. It would be so much easier, and better if they put the tabards back, like in wotlk where you got rep for that faction while wearing a tabard from their quartermaster :) I can't say pandaria was a bad expansion, it's really great in many aspects, and has a decent late-game imo, just.. a little bit to many dailies and to many chains in them ^^.We should appreciate what blizzard does, I mean.. not everything, but remember, they do ALOT to either put in new stuff, or fixing bugs. I think they're doing a great job, but wow is losing some of it's spark, It's to many new changes, sudden ones..Cheers all! :)
I've been playing since vanilla and still dont find this game boring. Peaks my interest every day :P especially the fact that you think "gotta get gear, gotta do dailies."Also to the people who say "Oh wow is dying." name one paying MMO that still has over 8 million subs. that's still alot for a game like 10 years old. plus most losses are in the East, not NA or Euro. so those areas are still going well and have a good strong player base.I know this game is kinda getting old and boring, and some things need to be changed to keep players but making it TOO easy is not gonna keep players either. Players will get their loot and w/e and be like "Im done. no need to play anymore."I sure hope Blizzard keeps improving to keep players and make wow a strong competitor in the mmo market but I'm still loyal to the game and don't see myself quitting any time soon, especially with good friends that still play and play strong.my 2cents.
I went from playing WoW 7 days a week for 5 years to 1-2 days a week when 5.2 hit. Why? I could care less about dailies. LFR is a crapshoot... wiping on bosses in the first part of LFR ToT after 3 months really? And 14 wipes on Lei Shen did me in. Haven't touched LFR in a month and haven't regretted it since. So the 1-2 days I log in now is to raid with my great friends of 5 years now. Honestly, if I wasn't so close to my WoW friends and a tank for them, I'd cancel my subscription right now- could care less about the game. There's better games out there to play that don't suck the fun out of it- that are actually still games.