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Wowhead Economy Weekly Wrap-Up 122 | Children's Week, Professions & Market Prices

posted 2020/04/26 at 1:03 PM by perculia

SamadanTSMYouTubeTwitchCrafting ProfessionsBregVidsTailoringLeatherworkingBlacksmithingHikonsInscriptionChildren's WeekChildren's Weeku/Kurraga on Children's Week potential money makers
One way is to sell food required for the achievement Bad Example, required for the meta:

With cooking you can make Delicious Chocolate Cake and Tasty Cupcake. You'll need Mageroyal, small eggs for the Chocolate Cake so if you haven't stocked up already you might need to go farm them.

The vendor Foods are mostly brought from Aimee by the north bank in Dalaran (both old and new):
Dalaran Brownire, Dalaran Doughnut, Red Velvet Cupcake and Lovely Cake Slice (which requires first buying a lovely cake, placing it down and looting it 5 times, the cake has a cooldown of 30 minutes so don't go crazy buying them).

Then the Strawberry Icecream can be bought from various vendors, for alliance the best one is probably the gnome between the bank and the AH in SW Trade District.

The other potential market would be looking onto investing in pets: Peanut, Egbert and Willy can all be obtained from doing the children's week questline, which you can do yourself (probably takes less than an hour to do everything) or from just buying them. Like other event items they're usually easiest to come by during the event so now is a good opportunity to start looking out for them going for cheap.

Personally I've sold a 1-2 of each of the vendor foods for about 2000g each and 10 the chocolate cakes for around 1000g each so far, but prices have already crashed pretty significantly after the event started, but that's to be expected. There are always going to be lazy people who will go to the AH rather than a vendor (or even bother to look up what vendor they need to go to) so it's worth a shot trying to milk them.
Market Pricesu/PhattwoohieZin'athid Price Dropping? Is this Happening On Your Server Too?
On my server the price of Zin has stayed steady around the 40 gold mark. it will fluctuate between 34-40 most weeks and has spiked up to 50-60 when someone would buy it all out and reset it. This past week however, the price steadily started tanking and it doesn't seem to be selling much at all. It's down to 24 gold and I can't figure out why. There is a ton of it on the AH as well because as I said, it's like people have stopped buying. I figured with the introduction of Mythic cross server coming out, it would get a boost or at the very least remain steady in price.

Has anyone else noticed a drop on their servers? Are the multiboxers dumping or does this have something to do with Alpha and all the hype about the expansion? I'm sitting on tons of this stuff and I'm worried I won't be able to even break even now. I may have to sit on it till the expansion and slowly sell it off next year.

- The expansion is over and there is less demand than ever for herbs. This happens at the end of every expansion. The player count is way down from where it was and there are less people buying things. Just look at how the WoW token is tanking.

- More people are farming than ever like you said. Not just multiboxers. Might have to do with the pandemic? The market is being flooded with herbs that there is no demand for. It isn't just Zin either. Every herb has tanked.

- My suspicion on this is the new players coming back don't understand the FILO and are simply undercutting like in the past.

- Pay attention to the prices on stormrage/area 52/illidan for raiding crap as they have the best market and will help you understand the real value of things on lower pop realms. Prices have been 20-30g on those 3 servers for over a month now.

- 8.3 was confirmed as last patch was enough foreshadowing that prices were going to fall as ppl give less of a shit about progression. Why stay on top of the game with mythic difficulty when it's getting thrown away by fresh quest greens

- COVID is causing more people to stay home and play so there's more farmers

- Finally, the release of alpha is another potential nail in the coffin of confidence in the BFA playerbase, ie, the market
The Undermine JournalZin'anthid looks like on US StormrageShadowsong EU
So this is the reason why I really hate the new buying and selling system in WoW. Anything you see below the red line has literally lost the race. The moment you post something you will loose in 10 minutes. 57450 tidespray totally posted and the price wont go up until those 12929 are gone and trust me that's not gonna happen becuase also those price walls will be undercut and guess what? The moment the old walls come down, they will be reposted again and you will get that same effect over and over again.

I don't have the choice anymore for how much I want to sell my items, go with the flow (be the lowest in price) or don't post. Before this new system was introduced, I sold so much because I used need stack sizes like 3 or 4 flasks or 40 herbs and not like the 1 or 200 stack sizes. I sold so much that way and the profits were better because I could ask a bit more. Sounds strange but trust me, 80% wasn't price but stack size that sold.

Now you have to babysit the AH almost to stay the cheapest or you end up behind that red line and you lose. It isn't even interesting to post items for longer then 12 hours anymore because of all the more undercutting. It's a waste of gold.

My prediction is that sooner or later the AH will be overflown so much and a lot of items won't have any decent value anymore. The people that will feel it the most are the flippers and the crafters that buy mats to craft and sell again. Only the farmers will benefit from this system for the moment, that until the items won't be worth anymore to farm.
Sniping with TSM in 8.3TSM Addon Changes for 8.3
Since the new Auction House changes went live in patch 8.3, we wanted to clarify some of the changes in fuctionality to the Sniper feature in TradeSkillMaster.

One of the biggest underlying changes, which was referenced in the blog post earlier this year, is that the AH no longer has ‘pages’.

Before 8.3 you could only see 50 auctions at a time, and you could only get information for another set of 50 auctions if you loaded the next or previous page. This also meant that there was a ‘first’ page and a ‘last’ page, and based on the way Auctions were sorted you could reliably identify those which had just been posted if they were on the ‘last’ page.

After 8.3 with pages being removed and no means to sort auctions by ‘most recent’, the only way to replicate the Sniper functionality is to repeatedly run a search for the items on the Auction House in general – just like you would search for something in the Default Blizzard UI.

This may feel sluggish and slower compared to how Sniper functioned before 8.3, so we would recommend using a smaller, focused group of items for a targeted approach to Sniping which requires searching for fewer things on the Auction House. We would also recommend removing the #Default Sniper Operation from the Base Group, as that will waste time running searches for all items that are not otherwise explicitly grouped.

When you search for an item in TSM or in the Default Blizzard UI, all items listed will be returned since there are no pages as described earlier. This behaviour will also occur behind the scenes when Sniping which slows down the process a little further – so when an auction is found to match your Sniper Operation, all auctions listed for that item will be loaded but those that do not match your Sniper Operation will be discarded by TSM.

We hope you are still finding deals while using TSM Sniper in 8.3. We will continue to explore options to improve the feature and adapt it to the new Auction House.
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Comments

Comment by DeathlordI feel like the new Auction House is a improvement to the economy long term but for myself it did make me suffer in some areas and benefit in some areas.

Few of the items I often sell I sold at higher price due to being at stack of 20/200 instead of 1's and that made the overall price remain slightly higher than all the 1's from 5 to 100 that often undercut eachother.

But smaller stack items I did manage to sell off better now at higher price since less undercutting occur.

I just think that we just need to slowly let the new system find its balance by itself with time as we the community just find the new patterns compared to earlier system.Comment by KartreRegarding the recommendation to check realm balance and population, what is the recommended tool with the seeming demise of RealmPop? WowProgress? Any others? Thank you for the great roundups and stream.Comment by GwiezThere has certainly been a removal of player choice in both buying and selling with the lowest and last ALWAYS coming first. Has this pushed the prices into a downward spiral too fast? What would be a solution? A maximum limit on posting quantity?Comment by IncandioAnd I thought profanity was not allowed on these pages.Comment by IncandioAnd I thought profanity was not allowed on these pages.Comment by todeshundSo, the auction system for the last 15 years has been slanted towards sellers, and allowing them to rip off buyers, but now that they finally change it to be a little more buyer friendly, everyone is whining about how unfair it is for them...laughable....Comment by pinelakias2Personal opinion from my experience: New AH is slow as a snail. I pretty much stopped posting my Tmog because it takes average 8 seconds per item to scan and post. Not even gonna mention cancel. I gave up on most of my market and focusing solely on glyphs. Im posting daily 55~ glyphs and some trinkets and it takes me about 12 minutes.... for just 60 items! Blizzard should re-revamp AH. They completely broke it!Comment by pinelakias2So, the auction system for the last 15 years has been slanted towards sellers, and allowing them to rip off buyers, but now that they finally change it to be a little more buyer friendly, everyone is whining about how unfair it is for them...laughable....Comment by pinelakias2There has certainly been a removal of player choice in both buying and selling with the lowest and last ALWAYS coming first. Has this pushed the prices into a downward spiral too fast? What would be a solution? A maximum limit on posting quantity?Comment by bobbis91The biggest and most annoying thing, is actually posting. I don't use TSM, used to like auctioneer but no longer works. Listing items is a pain, especially scrolls... pop it in, choose duration, hit the sell button, oh it's still in my bags? try again, pop it in, wait 5 secs after the price updates, hit sell, still in bags...
It's fine for items that don't stack that you have multiples of, pets and armour/weapons for example, but for stacked stuff and especially crafting mats, it's horrible.Comment by Sinequan0neThe new AH is far better then the old one..now if they would also disable API for stuff like TSM that would be great.It's an autoboting tool that clocks the workspace with it's constant scans of the AH just horrible,it got better at release but now that they cought up on it,its awful on big realms where everyone is using it.Comment by ShadowlootI kind of doubt that the pets from childrens week sell well.Comment by WHTJuniorI kind of doubt that the pets from childrens week sell well.Comment by DeadlyBananaFor people saying the new AH is slow, are you using wow Armory? I have found that some of the addons actually cause the AH to slow down, and once disabled the AH goes by super fast.Comment by jmwylieI have to agree here. I just did a clean install and have been very sparing on putting back in the addons. It has surprised me how much this has sped up basic game functions.Comment by BeechsackThere has certainly been a removal of player choice in both buying and selling with the lowest and last ALWAYS coming first. Has this pushed the prices into a downward spiral too fast? What would be a solution? A maximum limit on posting quantity?Comment by TelumThanks for the heads up on the Children's Week. I made a bunch of chocolate cakes and sold about 7 of them at 5kg each until the AH dropped down to 2k each.

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